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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Just so you know ...... when I refer to other machine I mean HP if it is working.
    No point in buying something unnecessarily. ;)

    Do keep running that Linux Live USB so you become familiar with it.

    If you get the chance please do boot Win in the Acer and then reboot into the liveUSB to see if the internet then works in Linux.
    I am interested in that result.
    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    John! I'm back ~ On Linux!!! :eek:

    Sorry I took so long. Spent the afternoon breaking my bits with 3 and my brain over this trap I'm trying to engineer.

    Did what ye asked, look. Been sitting here, all day, on doze. Never realised, I must have fired up this morning, trying straight for Linux. (Had I been doing that all along?! Doubt it. But, dunno!)

    Anyway, yeah; Rebooted from doze. Chose the Traveler stick I have linux on. Boosh! Here I am :)

    So, there's ye question answered ~ seemingly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Stigura wrote: »
    John! I'm back ~ On Linux!!! :eek:

    Sorry I took so long. Spent the afternoon breaking my bits with 3 and my brain over this trap I'm trying to engineer.

    Did what ye asked, look. Been sitting here, all day, on doze. Never realised, I must have fired up this morning, trying straight for Linux. (Had I been doing that all along?! Doubt it. But, dunno!)

    Anyway, yeah; Rebooted from doze. Chose the Traveler stick I have linux on. Boosh! Here I am :)

    So, there's ye question answered ~ seemingly?

    Yes, answered indeed. Thanks.

    For the present use that to get connected in the LiveUSB until something better is sorted.

    Boot Win ..... reboot choose USB .... boot into Linux and you should be connected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    HP RIP.

    It's official. The HP machine is with the Dodo's :( Wouldn't go 'Voom!' if ye stuck 60,000 volts up it.

    I guess I'm computer shopping ~ again ~ Johnboy.

    Horrible position to be, back, in. I guess I should be cheering that I at least have a phone now. In the event then; I'll be more handcuffed than handless. Still .....

    Dunno where this leaves us, for now. This months pension is already ear marked for bloody fuel! Not as if random tons are floating around me. Nor is this thread the place to start discussing buying a machine.

    Just seems worth noting though, for clarity: I'm still here, on 7. No problems what so ever. My mate's the same. So, I should probably retract what ever vitriol I may have spouted against Bill, initially.

    Simple fact remains though: It's just in my nature to prefer to not be shackled. I'm also not given to half measures.

    Ye've constantly said I Shouldn't commit to Linux, John. But, now I'm down to the one - Acer - machine, what do ye suggest? Buy a new back up, and play with 'Linux On A Stick' with that one? Till when?

    I honestly think any further discussion of 'Should I? Shouldn't I? How?', on this thread, would be pointless. We've done that. To death. I'll be, eternally, more grateful than ye'll ever know. Truthfully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    I was not intending to advise against committing to Linux, but was advising caution and doing so at a slower pace than you indicated was your intention.

    Now that you are down to one machine, choices are somewhat different.

    1.
    Depending on drive capacity in that machine and how much space Win requires at minimum, it should be possible to install Linux on the same drive, and dual boot ....... select which to use immediately after powering on.
    This can be a little confusing to do for a first timer, so I generally advise a different method where possible.

    2.
    A second option for one machine use is to use two drives. If it is possible to put the second drive into the machine, this would be the preferred option. Win on one and Linux on the other, and choose which to boot as above.

    3.
    A third option would be an external drive .... attached to the USB socket (preferably USB 3 for speed reasons). Linux can be installed on that and booted in similar manner to how you boot the Live USB stick.
    This could be completely independent of the internal drive, or space on the internal drive recovered from Win could be used for storing files etc.

    Any of the above would be a 'half-way house' in your move ....... have a Linux space without burning your Win pad.

    4.
    If you get on with Linux in the long term, not needing Win for anything, then would be the time to wipe Win and install Linux all on its own.
    That might be the ultimate aim, but I see no reason that the first option would not suit better in the long term.
    I will leave Win on a laptop for instance, in case I might wish to sell it with Windows working - providing the HDD has sufficient space for both Win and Lin.

    Maybe your buddy would do the necessary for you to limit the space used by Win on the Acer? He would also need to ensure that it did not hibernate by default (or is that Win 10 only?).
    Once that space is available, and Win boots quite happily afterwards, then installing from the USB stick is a simple matter.

    So .... control Windows and reduce space. Install Linux into that space.
    All done. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    :DThree!!! Why didn't I see that?!

    Right; Now I'm loathe to say another word on the subject. Because External's aren't the subject of this Board, let alone this thread!

    Off about my business ~ let my head clear, for now. I'll return, presently. Find where we discuss Hardware and shall dig about on there for some inside track on Externals :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Stigura wrote: »
    :DThree!!! Why didn't I see that?!

    Right; Now I'm loathe to say another word on the subject. Because External's aren't the subject of this Board, let alone this thread!

    Off about my business ~ let my head clear, for now. I'll return, presently. Find where we discuss Hardware and shall dig about on there for some inside track on Externals :)

    If you don't have a suitable external drive there are many options ..... the best of which is an SSD with adapter cable or housing to connect to the USB socket.

    There is another option I have no experience of ...... using a micro SD card in a USB adapter. These can be very cost effective, but I have no experience of their durability.
    I might try this in the next week or so to see if it works well or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    What ye reckon, Johnboy; Should we kick this to " PC Building & Upgrading" now :confused:

    Either way, I have a couple of hours getting my hands dirty coming up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Stigura wrote: »
    What ye reckon, Johnboy; Should we kick this to " PC Building & Upgrading" now :confused:

    Either way, I have a couple of hours getting my hands dirty coming up.

    I say leave as is to keep it all together.
    There is a lot of history in this thread ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Fair comment! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    So, what is your intention?

    You have an external drive to try for 3. above?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    So, what is your intention?


    Quite funny. I actually read that from the floor. As my ear was being licked by one of my Dogs I, unfathomably, call " Licky ". My grunted, verbal, response, screwdriver in hand, was: " Fit this f***ing door, John! " :D

    I was just fitting a Licky proof door to the cubby hole where the Acer, and its wires, lives. Licky is also a pathological wire chewer.

    Anyway, yes; No. I don't have an external drive. I'm going to buy one. I just need to figure out which one :confused:

    Under a tenner to over a ton. Only need a few gigs. Because I'll only have my Linux on it, look. Everything else I keep backed up to a pair of sticks. Copy on each. Lest Licky get to one :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    How large are the USB sticks?

    I have just completed an install of PCLinuxOS KDE5 on a 64 GB micro SD card in a USB adapter.
    Tiny things, so easily lost I guess (or swallowed) :)

    Whatever you decide on, try to get the fastest READ speed you can.

    64 GB SSDs range from about €20 upwards ..... and you get the quality you pay for.

    Because you have 'storage space' on the Win drive you do not need a large capacity SSD .... but do get the one with the fastest read speed you can afford.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Okay, Johnboy: I read that and called my mate, Dean O'. Half my age and knows far more than I about these machines.

    However, seems he's Not up to scratch on SSD's. So, he suggested I ask You ye top pick of three price ranged ones.

    Now, this guy has ~ and has had for years ~ my Life on his own HDDs. It came to me, during our conversation, that he Has my life because he saved it for me, after my " Tenner " external drive died!

    I'll consider That the Gypsys warning then! Scrap the cheap as chips crap! :eek:

    Top of the range gear? We're talking a ton plus, of course! And, I'll be computer shopping, this year, anyway. What do I want to spend a ton plus for, just to hold something I can freely DL ~ or have Dean O' DL for me, if it comes to it ~ anyway?

    So; What ye reckon? Thirty to fifty sort of mark? Any leanings toward anything in that sort of ball park that might be worth considering, please?

    And, as I told Dean O' I'd say: Ye welcome to PM me on this. Save exposing yeself to anyone popping up to argue ye opinion is Wrong! That would only muddy the water anyway :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    The biggest danger when doing an install is damaging the working installation of Windows.
    You can avoid that by disconnecting the Windows HDD before installing Linux.

    The whole installation procedure will be alien to you, but it quite simple once you know what you need.
    As with all things Linux it puts the power in the users hands and so you need to make the decisions.

    As you might have gathered, I am doing my best to steer you away from actions which, by an incorrect decision or inattention, could wipe out your working Win install.

    So if your mate has a spare HDD (wiped clean) that you could borrow for a while, you could put that in the Acer, disconnect the Windows drive and boot from the LiveUSB, and install Linux to the borrowed HDD.

    After the install and reboot to check all is working OK, you can power down and reconnect the Win drive.
    You can, within Linux, run an application which will see the presence of the Win drive and offer it as a boot option on the first screen.
    Alternatively you can choose which drive to boot from by using a key press during the first stage of the boot process ..... often F8 or F9 or one of those keys. The Acer manual will have the info or it might even come up on screen before you get to the selection screen of Linux.

    That would suffice while you decide on what to buy, and would also give you some idea how this all works when installed.
    You could also do several different installations just for practice.
    Any HDD that will connect to your motherboard will suffice.

    IMO the main thing is to get some experience of doing installation so you are comfortable when doing one to be kept long term.

    Is it possible that your mate has such a drive he could donate or loan?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    No idea what drives my mate might have. Frankly? Immaterial, to me. I want to buy my own (External) drive with a USB plug ~ as I had before. Just a more reliable one.

    I'll put my KDE5 on that drive. Stick the USB into the Acer. Hammer F12, on boot. Get on with my life, on Linux.

    Let me just tell ye about my 'life', John. Indulge me. It won't take long:

    I fire her up. I look at what's being said on five or six fora. I've visited them all, on doze and Linux.

    Late at night, I mike chat to a friend in NZ. We use " Telegram ". I've checked. That is Linux friendly. I just DL it to Linux. It recognises me and sends my phone a code. That code gets me chatting to kiwi. I'm figuring Linux will accept my USB / P&P mike too.

    Here comes the one in the woodpile: I'm on one site where we show eachother video clips we find on line. That's the bug bear! Because I often want to clip a segment of a longer clip.

    That, I do with " Windows Live Movie Maker ". (I then do various other things, via a few web based places. But, I can go to them as normal via firefox on Linux)

    My only snag is that the 'Film Editor' on KDE5 is Seriously complicated looking! :eek: I really need to mess about with video, on an almost daily basis. That bloody thing could take me Weeks to figure out!

    So, in short? I don't Need doze 7. It's going to be taken away from me anyway, in due course. Why should I try to hang onto it until it goes tits up? Pointless! Like the old box I (think?) I have down the stables: XP on it. Dead!

    Finally? I'd prefer to just wake up. Hit the button. Keep getting dressed. Hunching over this bloody thing, tapping F12 like a maniac gets very old. Damn quickly.


    NB. My Sticks are 32GB Kingston's. And, in honesty? I Do Not favour them for long tern storage of stuff that matters to me. But, that's just me. I guess I'm scared to death of having just One copy of my lifes work Anywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    If you feel that strongly about it you can force yourself to make 'accommodations' while you learn what Linux applications suit you best for what you want to do, simply by wiping Win and doing a linux install. :D

    It is not exactly what I would recommend, but it would be a final decision. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Yeah. I'm Seriously Absolutely sold on Linux, Johnboy. It's Literally just this one (Vid Editing) thing that's left in my way now.

    Suffice it to say; Between this and our last posts? I've reached the score to become a Made Man on that site! :D I'm just waiting for the Admin to spot it and shower me with the goodies!

    I'm Not about to wake up, tomorrow then, find a Great clip ~ and not have a clue how to dress it for my next presentation! :eek:

    Dunno. Maybe I should start messing around with the Linux editing suite; Familiarise myself with that before jumping?

    Do I still need an external :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Stigura wrote: »
    Yeah. I'm Seriously Absolutely sold on Linux, Johnboy. It's Literally just this one (Vid Editing) thing that's left in my way now.

    Suffice it to say; Between this and our last posts? I've reached the score to become a Made Man on that site! :D I'm just waiting for the Admin to spot it and shower me with the goodies!

    I'm Not about to wake up, tomorrow then, find a Great clip ~ and not have a clue how to dress it for my next presentation! :eek:

    Dunno. Maybe I should start messing around with the Linux editing suite; Familiarise myself with that before jumping?

    Do I still need an external :confused:

    The internal should suffice to hold files until you get sorted.

    Regarding the Video work ..... post in the forum and explain exactly what you do to the source video to get the result you want.
    Ask what application might be best suited to that kind of work.

    I would expect you will get some responses from those with a little or maybe a lot of experience in doing similar.
    You can then try what is suggested when running live ..... by installing the app you want to test.

    G'night ;)


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    I've been able to use OpenShot to do basic video editing - it's pretty capable, but the learning curve isn't too steep.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    I've been able to use OpenShot to do basic video editing - it's pretty capable, but the learning curve isn't too steep.

    There are so many different video centric applications it is difficult to know which one might best suit some purpose without some advice or testing.
    Most of them are very capable at what their target function is.

    I still resort to Avidemux for simple video splitting .... taking out a short clip from a long video ..... or even deleting adverts from a recording.
    Old habits die hard :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Yeppers, John; Much of my work actually involves copying vid's from such and such sites. Then, cropping out the segment I want to show, on 'my' site.

    Only, I always try to find a bit that hasn't got the 'original' sites water mark. I'll also crop off side panels, which may feature the sites name. And go as far as wiping their sound track :cool: It's a dirty little world I inhabit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Oscar Bravo; Thanks for that :) Now on my desk top and being put through its paces. Seems alright.

    One thing I'm finding confusing is where it puts my stuff :confused: I normally DL to my Desk Top. This has squirreled my DL away on my C drive, somewhere? I had to run a search to find it!

    How may I rectify that, please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Is there nothing in the settings to allow you to set the 'Save' location?

    or set a path in 'Export Video'?

    Just Installed Openshot ....... when you click the Save (Red) icon it presents the option of where to export/save it to. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Not that I'm finding, John :( Just gone through it pretty thoroughly, clicking everything I could see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Stigura wrote: »
    Not that I'm finding, John :( Just gone through it pretty thoroughly, clicking everything I could see.

    Not sure what you are looking for now ...... openshot provides the option to alter the path to where to save your output ..... is this not what you were looking for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    :confused:Exactly what I'm looking for! Where is it, please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Stigura wrote: »
    :confused:Exactly what I'm looking for! Where is it, please?

    Press the red icon to Export the work.
    First is you give it a name
    Second is you tell it where to save ...... you can use the browse button to find the folder into which it should save.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    :( Dear god ..... Sometimes, I swear, I think I'm just too thick to own a computer!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Stigura wrote: »
    :( Dear god ..... Sometimes, I swear, I think I'm just too thick to own a computer!

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Just occurred to me I had not seen a post on here in a long time.

    Have you abandoned the idea/project?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Abandoned nothing, Johnboy! :D Just turned my baleful gaze to other things, whilst being too spent to worry about new drives, too much.

    Spoke to my local lad, about drives. He mentioned that His 7 was now appearing shaky!

    But, somehow, the conversation sort of turned from gigabytes and terabytes to metal rods, bird traps and his new girlfriend :o Actually ended up resolving the grand total of Nothing!

    So, I guess, I'm just still hung up on the question of which external hard drive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Well; Just re read a page or two. I see, basically, I'd need an external, just to put my Linux on. Then, spend each day clattering F12 to force a boot to it?

    Alternative is to wipe 7. Install Linux. Get on with life. Oh! And save fifty quid into the bargain!

    Can ye guess which route I favour? :cool:

    Only niggle here, Johnboy, is that the last time I saw " BIOS ", I had a stomach like a wash board. Now? I have a stomach like five months gone! And all recall of all that stuff is as lost as my memory :(

    So; My defining position is: I wouldn't have the faintest clue where to even start! " Get Dean O' to do it! " May seem the obvious answer. But, A. Ye mentioned earlier, I believe, a Linux load isn't so fool proof? Either way; Dean has zero experience with Linux ~ Yet!!! :P Wait till he gets forced onto 10!

    And, B.? There'd be much easier, and faster, ways than waiting for Dean O' to find the time for me.

    That's what I need next: A walk through of how to completely rip out 7 and replace it with Linux ..... Is there a Tutorial For Dummies, please :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Installing an operating system in anything but the providers default manner requires knowledge of hardware, partition table, partitioning, file system formatting and other such basic stuff.

    MS does not provide an easy means to do a 'non-default' installation.
    Most Linux distros do ....... but of course those are limited to what the developers considered suitable at the time it was conceived.

    It is much easier to install any operating system on a HDD that is to be solely for that OS. All complications are thus removed and the 'default' install method works fine.

    This is an easy matter when dealing with a desktop machine where an extra HDD can be installed inside, rather than a laptop or other device with limited physical space.
    In some laptops where there is a CD drive, it can be removed and a caddy with HDD put in its place, thus giving a second HDD.

    So the first thing is ........ what is the device it is to be installed to?
    Can it take a second HDD/SSD?
    Is the hardware of that device (CPU, GPU, RAM) sufficient for the intended purpose?

    What also works quite well is an SSD plugged into a USB slot via an adapter cable or small external housing.
    USB 3 would be preferable but USB 2 works very well.

    In the BIOS/EFI firmware it *should* be possible to specify the USB connected device to be the default boot drive.
    It is so on most PCs ...... I currently run my OS from such an SSD (the internal HDD space occupied by multiple HDDs).

    So a written out plan is the best course ....... discuss the plan and when decision made stick with it until complete.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Just to add in answer to this
    A walk through of how to completely rip out 7 and replace it with Linux ..... Is there a Tutorial For Dummies, please

    You can boot the Live Linux OS, and select to install it, selecting to use the Complete Hard Drive.
    It will then completely wipe windows from the drive and install Linux in its place.

    There is no return from this except a reinstall of Win from scratch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Second post sounds good, Johnboy! :cool:

    So; I, basically, stick my usb stick, with my Linux on it, om my machine. Fire it up. Press the button and sit back as Linux does it for me?

    Then, when I fire her up the next day? Boosh! I'm looking at Linux? Sounds like a plan! :)

    I appreciate ye own trepidation that I may irrevocably divest myself of 7. But, hey! That's on the cards anyway! Billy Boy's seeing to that. There's no way round it. My 7 will just get sketchier until it fails completely and I'm Forced to get 10.

    Selling my machine, without doze? LOL! Not gonna happen! This little machine too will die, sooner than later. I'm never going to try to sell it. Only ever Sold one machine in my life. That was a dead Dell. For scrap! (Never doing Dell again!)

    Where's that leave us, please? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Stigura wrote: »
    Second post sounds good, Johnboy! :cool:

    ......

    Where's that leave us, please? :)

    If you want to go ahead on that basis then grab an updated ISO from here and put it on your USB stick and then boot using it.
    http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/pclinuxos/pclinuxos/live-cd/64bit/

    When you get to the installer you will be given choices on how you want to proceed - in this case use the complete HDD.

    I am sure there are posts and info in the wiki about what to expect when installing.
    Maybe Table of Contents on this page will give an indication
    https://pclinuxoshelp.com/index.php/Main_Page

    If I find something better I will add it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    " Grab an updated ISO "

    :confused: And, just how crucial is this, Johnboy? I mean, the one I got a month ago looked like everything I could wish for.

    This, latest, one is set to take up to ten hours ~ couple of gigs, racing down at an average of 100 kbs.

    How often does one need to do this? What's the gain?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Stigura wrote: »
    " Grab an updated ISO "

    :confused: And, just how crucial is this, Johnboy? I mean, the one I got a month ago looked like everything I could wish for.

    This, latest, one is set to take up to ten hours ~ couple of gigs, racing down at an average of 100 kbs.

    How often does one need to do this? What's the gain?

    The gain is that the initial install is as current as possible ....... all apps updated to current and probably a newer kernel in the new ISO.

    Installing from last months ISO means that after the install you will need to update your install to get these updates.

    I generally update on a daily basis, but others do so on a weekly basis.
    PCLinuxOS is a 'rolling' distro and can be kept up to date in this manner for years.
    Other distros require a reinstall every so often .... maybe every 6 months!

    So I get incremental updates daily rather than a reinstall periodically.

    In your case I would say use the ISO you have, and do the updates after install.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Cool. Thanks :)

    Okay, well this one's now leapt down to forty minutes to go (?!) What ever. I've no where to go.

    Really looking forward to it, actually. Finally pressing that button and waving doze goodbye.

    Spoke to my friend in Kiwi, last night. She'd vanished for a few days there. Said she'd been having pc trouble. I'm like; " Ah. Ye running 10 though, aren't ye? " Trying ever so hard to keep the 'I told ye so!' out of my voice! :D

    Okay. I'll just sit here, mooching about, and wait for what's happening to take shape.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Stigura wrote: »
    Cool. Thanks :)

    Okay, well this one's now leapt down to forty minutes to go (?!) What ever. I've no where to go.

    Really looking forward to it, actually. Finally pressing that button and waving doze goodbye.

    Spoke to my friend in Kiwi, last night. She'd vanished for a few days there. Said she'd been having pc trouble. I'm like; " Ah. Ye running 10 though, aren't ye? " Trying ever so hard to keep the 'I told ye so!' out of my voice! :D

    Okay. I'll just sit here, mooching about, and wait for what's happening to take shape.

    When you boot the Live OS to the desktop, check out things like sound and internet connection that they work ...... BEFORE you install.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    :cool: Well, Johnboy, same time the next day, look. I've just spent a straining, yet none the less profitable morning, on here. Now? I really think it's about time. Don't you?

    I'm now logging off. (I've cleared my desk top) I'll now reboot. Test sound and connection. Then, hit that button! :D

    Hope to see ye, back on the other side!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Okay, Johnboy; I'm on line, obviously. But, yep, ye dead right! I can't hear Youtube :confused:

    I'll stay on here now, till ye get back to me and we sort this glitch.

    Thanks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Hmm. Froze up completely, in there. Had to hit the big button and reboot to 7 :( Never had these problems last time ...


    Anyway, I'm here. Wait till ye reappear :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Here now.
    No sound from Youtube when running LiveOS using which browser?
    Did you try other browser?
    Did you have a look at PA Volume Control to see if various levels were raised or reduced?

    Any error messages appear?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Firefox is my browser.

    Volume controls were actually the first things I touched, once it was open. Set everything to 100% ~ I'm deaf so need all the help I can get.

    No error messages at all. Just froze. Escape couldn't help me. Big Button Time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Sound was working using the previous ISO?

    It is unusual to need to hit the power button. There are usually other options to try first ...... key combinations which will do a 'safe' shutdown. As you are running from a LiveUSB there is no need of those .

    Have you booted more than once and had the same freeze up after no sound?
    Need to know if the problem is repeatable or was maybe just a glitch during booting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    I'm Not gonna lie and say I even remember if I had sound, last time. Though, I'd strongly suggest I would have had. Something I'd have noticed.

    Okay. I'll now go away and reboot into Linux. I'll fiddle around a bit and make careful, written notes of anything noticeable.

    Before I go though, let me just run this past ye: This place and Yahoo refused my passwords. Figured I'd remembered them wrong. So, to get at my typed records, I had to access another USB stick.

    To do that, I plugged it into my hub. I then opened a folder, in that, in Dolphin. So on, so forth. Reset my passwords. But froze.

    I'll sit and wait for ye response, before rebooting ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Stigura wrote: »
    I'm Not gonna lie and say I even remember if I had sound, last time. Though, I'd strongly suggest I would have had. Something I'd have noticed.

    Okay. I'll now go away and reboot into Linux. I'll fiddle around a bit and make careful, written notes of anything noticeable.

    Before I go though, let me just run this past ye: This place and Yahoo refused my passwords. Figured I'd remembered them wrong. So, to get at my typed records, I had to access another USB stick.

    To do that, I plugged it into my hub. I then opened a folder, in that, in Dolphin. So on, so forth. Reset my passwords. But froze.

    I'll sit and wait for ye response, before rebooting ;)

    I am unsure what this means.
    You used a second USB stick for the LiveOS or something else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Ummm ..... I had the Live stick plugged into my mike. That's my default way of using any USB thing. It's right here on my desk. Faultless.

    Needing to access what is, effectively, my backed up hard drive ~ on another stick ~ I plugged That stick into a Multi USB Hub I have attached to the machine.

    Just checked: Mike is plugged into the same hub ....?


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