Is There Anybody Out There ....?

Johnboy1951

I guess you won't be trying latte-dock again

Stigura

Shut It!

Stigura

:eek: :eek: :eek: Good god! Johnboy? I'm in there!!! That bloody forum? It worked now!

This'll take a load off ye!

Johnboy1951

Stigura wrote: »

:eek: :eek: :eek: Good god! Johnboy? I'm in there!!! That bloody forum? It worked now!

This'll take a load off ye!

Maybe was some small glitch when you installed the first time.
Might also have caused your problems with latte-dock

Stigura

Don't Ever mention That bloody thing again!!! 'Blaster Worm' caused me less grief than that!


See my post, in that forum? I describe my problem. I list, exactly, the steps I took. First answer - probably the last; Basically, 'Go back and do what ye just did.' :rolleyes:


Great!

Johnboy1951

Stigura wrote: »

Don't Ever mention That bloody thing again!!! 'Blaster Worm' caused me less grief than that!


See my post, in that forum? I describe my problem. I list, exactly, the steps I took. First answer - probably the last; Basically, 'Go back and do what ye just did.' :rolleyes:


Great!

No, I did not see your post, I just now checked.

The forum mods are rather 'touchy' about what they perceive as unacceptable writings, so maybe you upset some USians

Stigura

Doesn't bode well, John. Guy clearly hadn't even read my post. Now, if I point that out to him? I'm the upstart :rolleyes:

Joined a forum, the other day. Just to ask a single question. Ye'd better believe me when I tell ye; One guy's popped up, started giving me abuse about a falling out we'd had almost Ten Years Ago, on line! And which he'd wholly instigated. (I gave him the rope to totally pwn himself, and he did, as it happens. Quite exquisitely)

Guy must get up, every day, and search the internet for mention of that particular handle! Seriously! And, he wasn't even the only one! Another dude cropped up, insinuating he could be doxing me!

I'm banned from more places than I can post in, now, John. I just don't know what it is about me - other than I simply Refuse to bow down before any little tyrant with a keyboard, who their mate has given a ban button.

How many Pages is this thread now, John? And we've been hammering out some of the most stressful stuff a man can have to endure. I've been loosing my schit, at times. And what's happened? Nothing! Because you've treated me like a human being, throughout.

Common civility is king, is it not, sir?

Anyway, yeah. See the situation I'm already faced with, in that place? Damned, either way.

Johnboy1951

I just realised there is 18 pages of posts in this thread!

I must be mad!!!!!!

Oh I had my moments on that forum also.
I found out the best response sometimes was none at all, and when I just HAD to respond, then I began to write, and re-write, and leave it for a while and re-write, until I got said what I wanted, without using unacceptable terms etc.

In other words I learned to use polite words to say not so polite things!

So far it has worked for me.

The biggest things to remember is to attack the content of the post if you must, but never, ever, attack the poster.
That is completely unacceptable.

Stigura

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

The biggest things to remember is to attack the content of the post if you must, but never, ever, attack the poster.
That is completely unacceptable.

John; Even the Words I was being called, on that Other forum, wouldn't be acceptable here. No way! (For clarification; I Know this isn't ye point)

Ironically, I was just composing a Very nice and full of " " post there. Explaining how I'd got as much answer as I ever would. Thanking the place for their time. Indicating how one or two members just seemed rankled by my presence. So, I'd bid the place a fond farewell

" You Do Not Have Permission To Post! "

LMFAO!

Anyway ..... Yeah. It's friday night ... But, this isn't a chat room. (Smacks own wrist)





Now: Yes, this thread's " Got History " - I believe is what ye said? Ages ago. When I suggested I veer off and ask a question fresh.

Now, I see it very much as the story of one mans journey, across this gaping chasm which - believe me, John! - exists between, I'd guesstimate, 90% + of windoze slaves and Linux.

Whether anyone else, thinking of making the change, would be in the least bit interested in ploughing through it? I've no idea. Especially given todays, majorly; 'Give it! NOW! Free. Oh, god, I've lost interest. My concentration's gone.' mind set.

But, hells teeth, John; Ye've personally taken a guy, scared to death of the water, and who is now, at least, happily Dog paddling around, asking the typical, air headed, questions Anyone in my position Will ask.

And, I have shed tons More to ask yet!

Up to you, I guess? You're the one pulling this load.

Johnboy1951

I'll be around if you need questions answered.

Enjoy the journey

Stigura

First question would be the one I asked on there I'm hating having to use " - " where I'd normally use the wavy, horizontal line.

Then? As we speak, I'm trying to figure out a sound issue. Back to that though. Nothing's life threatening. One thing at a time.

Bugger! If only we were able to have tabbed each post! Imagine that? A Thread Searchable record of each 'issue' covered? Wow!

Johnboy1951

What do you get when you do the following

Shift+2 ....... do you get ' " '?

If not then you have your keyboard set incorrectly.

Have you set up your location and time in the new install?

Johnboy1951

I see your posts are showing again on the forum.

There are three ....... all seem fine to me, with no hassle.

Stigura

Morning, John

Well ..... Got up, this morning. Fired her up. What do I see? Bloody Username and Password box! Of course, my username's showing. But, I'd distinctly clicked for NO Password.

As I said before; I Hate the idea of having to sit here, pecking out a word, first thing every day. I'm a two finger typist, on the keyboard from hell.

Couldn't get in. Figured there's only one thing for it: Suck it up and do Another install! But, I have the presence of mind to have come here first Just got to get my head around things first.

For one? I see I cam do " # " now. And, I glanced at a new post, where someone, very kindly, seems to have caught my drift and has laid down a walk through like he's talking to a scared child. Excellent! Exactly what I need! I'll get back to that, in due course.

Nice too ro see that ~ at a glance ~ it's Not me. There actually is a glitch in the system, where by doing the right thing throws the wrong result?! Great! I'm Not an idiot, see?

Anyway, sat here, going through my note book, what do I find? Bloody password for Linux! But, I'm sure that was for the first install.

I think, today, we'd better first look closely at that Username / Password bit. And how I get past it again, without condemning myself to ever picking out rubbish before my head clears.

Thanks.

Johnboy1951

Try hitting the Enter key instead of password ...... if you used no password

Johnboy1951

Bottom left of tray

Select icon for 'Configure your computer'
Select 'Boot' in left pane
Select 'Set up autologin ...' in right pane

Tick .... 'Yes I want autologin ....' and leave others unchanged

Select 'OK' at bottom right.
Close out that app.

That should do it.

Stigura

Err ..... Now I've gone straight back into Thick mode! :pac: I'm pretty sure I tried hitting Enter. That brought up a tiny, thin line of red script underneath the box. Telling me I'm knackered.

Ye second option; Just trying to get my head round how I try that. I guess I shut down. Power up again with this stick pulled out? Try it then.

Okay. I'd better write ye instructions on a bit of paper.

Back shortly, John. I have a Dog missing and it's driving me absolutely to distraction here. I have to go out and check the stable.

Stigura

Back! Dog's fine. I got called away
Now, it makes sense there's no point doing the auto log in thing on this stick borne system. So, I'm about to shut this down.

Then, I'll boot to the permanent one and try hitting Send for a password. Got it.

And, if I Still manage to butcher it? No biggy. I've got all afternoon now to play about with bootings. I'm very relaxed now and can just shrug it off

Here goes! Wish me luck!

Stigura

:cool: Interesting.

1. I used ye CTRL / Alt key thing, to gently close my machine down, when it reached that inevitable block. Great! Thanks!

2. Tried hitting Return. Having none of it. Closed down and now I'm back on the stick. No worries.

3. I have various pages from my little note book here, John. Schit scribbled down, in pencil, over the past days. And, I'm staring at a note that says: " Linux Blah, blah, blah. " The blah being, clearly, one of my usual Passwords!!!

3A. Here's the clinch: Assuming that Is a password I fed the machine based Linux? It'll get me in.

But; If I use that and Do get in? Can I then back track and tell the system; " No. Sorry. Changed my mind. Green button and retrospectively ditch all that password schit

I mean, obviously, that would be sweetest. As long as this password gets me in. Otherwise? Plan B is to reload KDE Back onto my machine and use the green button approach then.

Except ....! Do I not have to be 'IN' Linux, to see that green button in the first place??? Not sure!

See? I'm trying my best. I'm keepong notes. I'm keeping my cool :cool:

I'll leave this here now, for you to find. I'm off out to the kitchen to do some stuff for half hour. When ever ye respond, and I find it? I'll get on and do as ye say next.

Hey! This time tomorrow? I should be gliding around Linux like it was 7. These are only teething problems. Largely, no doubt, caused by my own, simple thickness!

Johnboy1951

Entering a user name when asked, then and correct password for that user will get you into the KDE desktop.
That is where you launch the applications.
Linux is capitalisation sensitive, unlike Windows, so watch out for that.

Do you remember what root password you used?
You will need that if you wish at any time to become admin.

Linux was designed as a multi-user system, so it has by default all the checks and balances that requires ...... username/password per user; special password for root/admin; no user, other than root, has the default ability to view another users' files.

You can add more users as you wish ..... using Configure your Computer - System - Manage Users on system

You can also as admin change users passwords.
Admin/root is king of it all.

EDIT: There is no reason at all to reinstall because you seem to have problems with passwords.

Stigura

That took longer than expected. Did the turtle while I was about it

I wonder if this password Is the root one? Wouldn't ye have told me to put that in the first time?

But, then; I've Reloaded the whole thing since! Aha! So, that's probably an Original installs root God, I'm getting sharp, aren't I?

" There is no reason at all to reinstall because you seem to have problems with passwords. "

Love the sound of That!!! Now, I'll have to reread what ye've been saying. Try to remind myself how I get past that doctors receptionist and to the little green shield. Once there, I have it all written down what to do. I even clicked my way through it.

Stigura

Okay, John. There's nothing I can see, in the above, apart from shutting this down. Cracking the main system, and trying to figure out what it wants me to say.

I genuinely believe that password will be from the First install. (Strangest thing; I know we weren't on the phone when I first logged in on the machine. But, I have this dim 'memory' of you, at my shoulder and telling me what do do Maybe we were on line, and I was reading this place from my phone? Spooky as all hell though!

Okay. Ye don't appear to be here, at the moment. I have an hour to kill. So, I'm shutting down this stick version and booting back into the doctors reception. Try another battle with the harridan behind the desk! :cool:

I'm not holding out a lot of hope, John. Just working my way though the ideas.

Stigura

On phone. Machine version open in front of me.

Top of box left? Says, " me" and below is "Me". Obviously the names I gave to my account.

Tried both, followed by that password.

Just tried both, followed by return. Nope.

What now, please? I'll leave it open on my screen and shall look go ye here.

Thanks.

Johnboy1951

Stigura wrote: »

On phone. Machine version open in front of me.

Top of box left? Says, " me" and below is "Me". Obviously the names I gave to my account.

Tried both, followed by that password.

Just tried both, followed by return. Nope.

What now, please? I'll leave it open on my screen and shall look go ye here.

Thanks.

The prompt changes from USER to Password after you have entered the user name?
When the prompt says Password try first just clicking on the user name up top with the mouse
If nothing then when password being asked for try Enter key on its own

If you cannot enter your user account then in USER put root and press Enter
and in Password put whatever you used for your admin password.

Stigura

WT.....?! OK. That worked. But...

My WiFi. is already connected. But I have no sound devices whatsoever!

" no output or input devices found ``

Stigura

Why did I sit and pick that out, on my phone; When I was sitting here with bloody yew chube playing, albeit silently, on my screen?! :rolleyes:

Anyway, yes, John. Fed the name as 'root'. Hit return, and it took me to the main, functioning page. Where, as I say, I find it's remembered my wi fi log in code. But, it's completely lost anything to do with sound

Johnboy1951

Stigura wrote: »

Why did I sit and pick that out, on my phone; When I was sitting here with bloody yew chube playing, albeit silently, on my screen?! :rolleyes:

Anyway, yes, John. Fed the name as 'root'. Hit return, and it took me to the main, functioning page. Where, as I say, I find it's remembered my wi fi log in code. But, it's completely lost anything to do with sound

If you logged in as root then that is where you repair your password for your user.
root has admin privileges.

You do not ever use the root account for ordinary user stuff.

You there now?

Stigura

:eek: Posting from there, and reading google! Oh, god! What have I done now?!

Johnboy1951

Go to menu - More Applications and select Konsole

That will provide a terminal window.

In there you will type two simple commands and after that log out and into your user account with no password required.

The commands:

su
(enter the root password if you have one - it will not show for security reasons so you type blind)

passwd -d <put your user name here>

log out and go into your user account - no password

Stigura

Did that. Had no passwords to offer.

Now back at square one and it's not having any of it.

Back on the phone.

Johnboy1951

Stigura wrote: »

Did that. Had no passwords to offer.

Now back at square one and it's not having any of it.

Back on the phone.

I have no idea where square one is.

Please say exactly what happened.

Stigura

You F***ing Beauty!!!!! We've bloody cracked it!!!

I was sat, glaring at that Bloody log in box (Square one) when I remembered ye Green Shield instructions? Daring Stigura figured it was death or glory! :cool:

Fed that sucker " root " again. Went Straight for the little green shield. Hit 'Configure yo schit', 'Boot' etc.

Rebooted? And I'm in a Linux I barely remember I had! All my book marks and Everything are still here! Even stuff I forgot putting in Dolphin!

And, my user name is " me ". Lower case! Saw that inside the shield thing

Keyboard's gone to cock, again. But, that's well on the way to getting fixed

As my dinner must be, now, John. Never ate a thing, yesterday. Too wrapped up in trying to sort this. So, now? DINNER!!!

Shed ton of Thanks!, as ever! Let's ffs call it a night now. I'll fiddle with the keyboard thing tomorrow. Your patience has, as ever, been exemplary. Thankyou! Now, let's both have a bloody well earned rest! And hope to god, when I switch on tomorrow ..... :pac:

Johnboy1951

Some information required for clarification in case of any future 'events' .....

your user account name is me (both lower case)
do you have a password for this now or log in without one?

do you have a password for the root (admin) account or log in without one?

I don't need to know the passwords, just whether they exist or not.
If you have passwords then please take careful note of them and to which account they belong.

Stigura

Only Linux password I have in the world is the one, I'm pretty sure, I set up on the initial machine load. Before I reloaded over that one.

So, effectively? No. No passwords.

Logging on, tomorrow, will be a nail biter!

Johnboy1951

Stigura wrote: »

Only Linux password I have in the world is the one, I'm pretty sure, I set up on the initial machine load. Before I reloaded over that one.

Whatever password you set up for root on the first install was overwritten by the second install.

So, effectively? No. No passwords.

Logging on, tomorrow, will be a nail biter!

I am unclear .......
when you logged on as 'root' user, and again after you entered the su command in the terminal, did you enter a password or just press enter not having entered any password?

Oh I forgot to comment on your finding all your previous install settings intact ....... that was likely because the user settings are separated from the OS itself and probably by default are not overwritten with a reinstall. That seems the most likely event.
That raises the question of whether you have the right to access and the ownership of, those user files.
Hopefully it has worked out that you have.
If not it can be fixed because you can gain admin privileges to do so.

Stigura

What in blazes are ye doing up, John?! Much less bothering ye head with This! :eek:

I've just read a book - on here. On Kindle! Then chatted away, on my phone, to my friend in NZ That's what people do, after a day of mind bending hell on earth. Very shortly, I'll crawl into the Dog Pile and shall sleep the sleep of a man satisfied.

What did I do? Every damn thing. Upper case. Lower case. User this. Pass that. Nothing was happening. Then, it did. And ye screamed at me to get the hell out of Dodge, because No One goes in there, messing about on line.

So, I got out. Probably rebooted, back to the doctors receptionist, demanding my bits. (Can't honestly remember now) But, I somehow made the things reappear. Little green shield?

And I remembered ye saying what to do. And did it. This:

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Bottom left of tray

Select icon for 'Configure your computer'
Select 'Boot' in left pane
Select 'Set up autologin ...' in right pane

Tick .... 'Yes I want autologin ....' and leave others unchanged

Select 'OK' at bottom right.
Close out that app.

That should do it.

Seems it did it! Now, I just have to pray it works, again, 'tomorrow'.

But, have I not set it up to wave me though? No demanding User Names and Passwords Bloody hope so. Or tomorrow could be 'Fun'! :pac:

Stigura

Johnboy1951

you seem happy

Stigura

Swinging in a warm breeze!

Johnboy1951

OK, you have been at it for a few hours now, so what have you broken?

Stigura

Sorted my keyboard ~ thanks to the other place: #@" Now, sitting here reading a book, on Kindle. Sipping a quiet beer. The most relaxed I can remember feeling in a bloody long time!

I'll try to come up with some grievance next week, John

Johnboy1951

OK mate.
Have fun!

Stigura

What ye reckon?

I have the new, Springsteen, album on my shelf here. Got it for my birthday. End of the year. Never bloody heard it yet! My machine has no D Drive!

Upper end of the cheap and cheerful price range. Specifically states it's good with Linux. I'd been thinking of an HDD, for storing KDE on. But, that's now part of my machine.

With this? I could hear my album. Watch the odd film. Burn schit to 'CD' type discs. I'm thinking: Failure of one of a few copies, on cheap discs. Vs failure of Any copy, in the corner of a Not so cheap stick

Dunno. Hearing the album would be great. Watching stuff like " The Kingdom ", again, is always an option! And then I could even have my mate, the butcher, vacuum seal the bunches of discs in plastic bags. Keep back ups in the stable.

Let me make this easier all round: See any reason Not to?

Johnboy1951

If you need a CD/DVD burner then almost any modern external device will do fine. So no problem noticed with that one.

I no longer use optical media. I too have an external burner and it might, just might, get used once per year.

The most useful feature of such a device, for me, is to rip audio CDs to flac files for storage on a HDD or flash stick.
After that I can do what I wish with the files.

Of course a lot of the time I don't even have to do that, as what is available on line is good enough.
For instance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCs8U5wwPJ8&list=PLgaFNC_I_Zkl8-i8LlshlDggge3sejrXM&index=1
that should provide your preferred listening.
It is a simple matter ..... using youtube-dl or youtube-dl-gui ..... to extract the audio from those videos - like this

youtube-dl -x https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCs8U5wwPJ8&list=PLgaFNC_I_Zkl8-i8LlshlDggge3sejrXM&index=1

If you run that in a Konsole it will save the audio in .opus format which you can easily play on the PC, or convert to another format if you wish.

Lots of choices as you go forward

Stigura

Ain't listening on the chube, John! :P It's a thing, with me. My bro' sends me the latest album(s) each birthday. CD's. Something I'm accustomed to. That I can have and hold.

And, when they find me, stinking worse than usual? They can say, " Jesus wept! Look at the schit in here! ..... Christ! Liked 'The Boss', didn't he?! "

In all honesty? I've had that many, older, albums which I used to have on vinyl. Found them on line. Down loaded them to something electriccy. God knows where they are now. Some HDD graveyard. I'd sooner burn, off the chube, onto a CD. Then, it'll always be on the shelf.

Anyway; Bought the EDD, today. Not so much for burning much. More that, as I say, this little machine has no disc drive. Now, I can watch my favourite films again, and listen to my CD's

But, enough of that .....

Stigura

John; My clock ~ bottom right? It says " 8:43PM Mon 3/9/20 " That's fair enough. But, I'd so much prefer " 8:43 Mon 9 Mar 20 " or similar.

Any fixes, please?

Johnboy1951

Stigura wrote: »

John; My clock ~ bottom right? It says " 8:43PM Mon 3/9/20 " That's fair enough. But, I'd so much prefer " 8:43 Mon 9 Mar 20 " or similar.

Any fixes, please?

Yes ....... right click on it ......
Set Time Format ....... make sure that is set correctly for this locale ...... Region Ireland here.

Then right click again and select Configure DIgital Clock Settings ......

You should be able to get what you want there.

If not post back.

Stigura

Nope. Not quite. I tried to get a screen grab, to show ye what that got me, the slight differences? Couldn't work that out

Anyway; I changed it to Irish. But, having restarted, to effect the changes? It says " 22:26 ". Date format's the same

Stigura

Wait there! Rebooting!

Stigura

Oh god! I'm such a ring piece!

I went into Digital Clock. Found 'Date Format'. Sorted that (Short Format). Think I had to reboot, to make it appear?

Went back in. Clicked 'Time Display' and, like a right doughnut, got confused and clicked for 24 Hour!!! Forgot my formats!

All sorted now, thanks!