TriAthy 2013

kiwster · 02-06-2013 5:37pm

Interesting, I calculated my bike time in excel based on the total minus the swim, run and transitions. The difference in the bike time I got and the bike time recorded is the exact same as my swim time.

See if adding your swim time to your bike time adds up to the difference.

Unregistered. · 02-06-2013 6:27pm

fluboy wrote: »

I wasn't there so I didn't see anything and I don't know the person involved, but I am just wondering about what you saw miller82. Wasn't this race on closed roads? If it was, how did a van get out onto the course to help her? Was it a marshal or bike mechanic in the van? and if it was, then i think this type of help is allowed, is it not?

'Tis.

El Director · 02-06-2013 9:20pm

Anyone know how Deirdre Hough was declared the Olympic Dist winner yesterday yet today has been DQ'd?

RacoonQueen · 02-06-2013 9:24pm

El Director wrote: »

Anyone know how Deirdre Hough was declared the Olympic Dist winner yesterday yet today has been DQ'd?

I think she missed part of the bike course.

El Director · 02-06-2013 9:25pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

I think she missed part of the bike course.

I see...isn't just an out and back x2?

RacoonQueen · 02-06-2013 9:30pm

Nope, not this year anyway.

http://my.triathy.ie/index.php/olympic-maps

Maybe turned towards 20 instead of going up towards the 15k turnaround? Which would be a marshalling error as much as anything I guess. Are the proper results up yet?

El Director · 02-06-2013 9:43pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Nope, not this year anyway.

http://my.triathy.ie/index.php/olympic-maps

Maybe turned towards 20 instead of going up towards the 15k turnaround? Which would be a marshalling error as much as anything I guess. Are the proper results up yet?

Could could be but ultimately up to each competitor to know the course. Shame for her. Splits still messed up it seems.

NewWheels · 02-06-2013 9:51pm

kiwster wrote: »

Interesting, I calculated my bike time in excel based on the total minus the swim, run and transitions. The difference in the bike time I got and the bike time recorded is the exact same as my swim time.

See if adding your swim time to your bike time adds up to the difference.

Was my first event yesterday so can someone please explain why my Total Time is less then my Chip Time by the time I took for the swim??

Why my position in male was 35th but 39th in Split Times section?

And why I lost 26 years of my life and am 21 again (well not complaining with that one!!!)

After all my training do I now need a degree in Maths to do this sport?

Ceepo · 02-06-2013 9:58pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Nope, not this year anyway.

http://my.triathy.ie/index.php/olympic-maps

Maybe turned towards 20 instead of going up towards the 15k turnaround? Which would be a marshalling error as much as anything I guess. Are the proper results up yet?

Hard to see how anyone could have went wrong rally as the course was well Marshelled and taped off, i did hear it been discussed yesterday so not suprised

Also there was 2 people dq'd in the the mens race after it brought to the attention of Tech officials/race director for taking a wrong turn, think they had a very fast bike split that just didnt add up, or else the were 5/6 min's better bikers

El Director · 02-06-2013 10:03pm

NewWheels wrote: »

...After all my training do I now need a degree in Maths to do this sport?

It helps

I think they are still trying to get to the bottom of the splits issues, it was a big field so will take some time I'd imagine, especially if doing it manually.

BTW :eek: 35th in your first triathlon, thats pretty damn impressive :cool:

Shedite27 · 03-06-2013 8:23am

My time and split are correct now.

http://my.triathy.ie/index.php/results/olympic-2013-results

Mr.Fred · 03-06-2013 8:35am

split times are all correct now. In fairness to them they did say the the earlier results posted were provisional results. It seems as though they have collected all the data and updated provisional results to final results.

As for someone cutting short the bike route I'd hope it was human error but it's hard to understand how someone could make a mess of that route it was flat,straight and well marshaled. Disappointing for yesterdays second place and todays winner not to receive the plaudits on the day.

Looking forward to next years and hoping they don't increase the entries. Bring on TriAthlone

Daz1214 · 03-06-2013 10:37am

That run along the tow path is still poxy but again, a well marshalled event

elvis jones · 03-06-2013 3:25pm

Mr.Fred wrote: »

split times are all correct now. In fairness to them they did say the the earlier results posted were provisional results. It seems as though they have collected all the data and updated provisional results to final results.

As for someone cutting short the bike route I'd hope it was human error but it's hard to understand how someone could make a mess of that route it was flat,straight and well marshaled. Disappointing for yesterdays second place and todays winner not to receive the plaudits on the day.

Looking forward to next years and hoping they don't increase the entries. Bring on TriAthlone

Same chip company:cool:

Mr.Fred · 03-06-2013 4:44pm

elvis jones wrote: »

Same chip company:cool:

Easy Tiger...:cool: I didn't mean that as a dig at TriAthy which was a great day out and plan to take part in next years

It was a case of bring on the next one which happens to be Athlone

elvis jones · 03-06-2013 4:47pm

Mr.Fred wrote: »

Easy Tiger...:cool: I didn't mean that as a dig at TriAthy which I enjoyed, so careful getting down now

It was a case of bring on the next one which happens to be Athlone then KK.

No just saying and in my experience with them any problems they do fix. I believe the delay was them getting back to the UK to compile and get the data sorted !

I'm thinking of Athlone myself, any idea what time the sprint is at ?

Mr.Fred · 03-06-2013 4:52pm

Ah yeah figured that after I commented, all good.

I was surprised to see results actually going up so quickly after to be honest albeit a bit hit n miss.

No idea of times for Sprint but the all downstream description sounds sweeettt.. I heard it was a nightmare swim lastyear.

Hopefully a lot earlier than Athy which it should be seeing as how oly was cut. It'll be a chance to redeem myself and buy some anti fog for my goggles rinsing my goggles out half way through the swim wasn't part of the plan. At least that's my excuse.:D

mossym · 03-06-2013 6:06pm

elvis jones wrote: »

No just saying and in my experience with them any problems they do fix. I believe the delay was them getting back to the UK to compile and get the data sorted !

thats good. cause i;m still age 21 on the results..:)

Daz1214 · 03-06-2013 8:30pm

Mr.Fred wrote: »

Ah yeah figured that after I commented, all good.

I was surprised to see results actually going up so quickly after to be honest albeit a bit hit n miss.

No idea of times for Sprint but the all downstream description sounds sweeettt.. I heard it was a nightmare swim lastyear.

Hopefully a lot earlier than Athy which it should be seeing as how oly was cut. It'll be a chance to redeem myself and buy some anti fog for my goggles rinsing my goggles out half way through the swim wasn't part of the plan. At least that's my excuse.:D

Actually an easy swim to be honest, the sprint was made longer to 1km but the current was so fast it was over in a flash

mossym · 03-06-2013 8:39pm

Daz1214 wrote: »

the sprint was made longer to 1km b

it was? was the tryathy longer as well then?

Mr.Fred · 03-06-2013 9:03pm

mossym wrote: »

it was? was the tryathy longer as well then?

I didn't really notice any kind of current in the Barrow on Sat. A gentle flow on the down leg I doubt they made it any longer.

Mr.Fred · 03-06-2013 9:06pm

Daz1214 wrote: »

Actually an easy swim to be honest, the sprint was made longer to 1km but the current was so fast it was over in a flash

I thought the Oly was cut short as a lot of folks were having difficulty reaching the turn point.

Looking forward to it now if the sprint swim is as easy as you make out

Is there any thread like this one for TriAthlone?

Daz1214 · 03-06-2013 9:12pm

Sorry folks, that comment was in relation to the comment made about the triathlone swim last year...athy distances were correct

Mr.Fred · 03-06-2013 9:14pm

Daz1214 wrote: »

Sorry folks, that comment was in relation to the comment made about the triathlone swim last year...athy distances were correct

I was with ya there Daz :cool:

I'm just looking through some pics of Athlone it's a bloody big river.

mossym · 03-06-2013 9:20pm

Daz1214 wrote: »

Sorry folks, that comment was in relation to the comment made about the triathlone swim last year...athy distances were correct

apologies, totally misunderstood your meaning, which was pretty clear when i go back and read it now

Daz1214 · 03-06-2013 9:36pm

Hahaha...no problems

Dont fear the shannon, its big but its a nice swim

miller82 · 04-06-2013 10:11am

fluboy wrote: »

I wasn't there so I didn't see anything and I don't know the person involved, but I am just wondering about what you saw miller82. Wasn't this race on closed roads? If it was, how did a van get out onto the course to help her? Was it a marshal or bike mechanic in the van? and if it was, then i think this type of help is allowed, is it not?

good point, and if so, i take back the comment. It was a silver van, thats all i remember.

elvis jones · 04-06-2013 10:13am

miller82 wrote: »

good point, and if so, i take back the comment. It was a silver van, thats all i remember.

Silver or greeny sliver with a blue sign on it.............the lead marshal on the cycle who has a bike shop in Portlaoise.

Now thats that solved.

miller82 · 04-06-2013 10:20am

Race was well organised as usual. The run does my head in a bit but i can understand why they keep it there, given the size of the race.....then again, having hundreds of people running on a path a few feet wide with a river on one side isnt ideal.

Happy with how my own race went. came out of the water in 9th and slightly fell out of the top ten in the end, so it was my best finish so far and hopefully peaking right for Austria

Also, glad to see the improved security out of transition at the end

miller82 · 04-06-2013 10:22am

elvis jones wrote: »

Silver or greeny sliver with a blue sign on it.............the lead marshal on the cycle who has a bike shop in Portlaoise.

Now thats that solved.

eh yeah i think silver and i think i noticed a blue sign and something about portaloise. Again....comment withdrawn and apologies

elvis jones · 04-06-2013 10:24am

miller82 wrote: »

eh yeah i think silver and i think i noticed a blue sign and something about portaloise. Again....comment withdrawn and apologies

No its good to confirm and sort these things out !

Happy that the extra security was noticed, it was the vain of my life with two transitions to work in

Oryx · 04-06-2013 10:32am

In fairness to Athy, they have listened to feedback and made some pretty good changes. Security was improved massively over last year. The marshals are efficient, but still don't lose sight of the fact that this needs to be fun, too. Its a fine balance, but they seem to have it.

Yes there were timing issues, and the run is, well, unique. Drafting is the biggest issue in the race though imo. Ive seen it other years, but this year you had blatant trains of riders, even among the slower ag'ers. Its as if its known to be accepted. Given that the race team seem to listen and act on feedback, hopefully this will be tackled too.

elvis jones · 04-06-2013 10:36am

Oryx wrote: »

In fairness to Athy, they have listened to feedback and made some pretty good changes. Security was improved massively over last year. The marshals are efficient, but still don't lose sight of the fact that this needs to be fun, too. Its a fine balance, but they seem to have it.

Yes there were timing issues, and the run is, well, unique. Drafting is the biggest issue in the race though imo. Ive seen it other years, but this year you had blatant trains of riders, even among the slower ag'ers. Its as if its known to be accepted. Given that the race team seem to listen and act on feedback, hopefully this will be tackled too.

With 3 or 4 guys from TI out on motorbikes with that being their main job perhaps it time for them to pull the finger out. A marshal can shout or the like but these guys have 1 job ( job being described as a paid activity ) to do.

miller82 · 04-06-2013 10:37am

Oryx wrote: »

In fairness to Athy, they have listened to feedback and made some pretty good changes. Security was improved massively over last year. The marshals are efficient, but still don't lose sight of the fact that this needs to be fun, too. Its a fine balance, but they seem to have it.

Yes there were timing issues, and the run is, well, unique. Drafting is the biggest issue in the race though imo. Ive seen it other years, but this year you had blatant trains of riders, even among the slower ag'ers. Its as if its known to be accepted. Given that the race team seem to listen and act on feedback, hopefully this will be tackled too.

yeah some of the drafting i saw was mental. i think the problem though is the numbers and the course - neither of which can be changed. there were two strecthes of road that were narrow enough, so a motor bike couldnt just go whizzing by, it would have to go slow and riders can then hear it coming. alos, due to the constant turn over of hundreds of cyclists on the course for hours, how can they track it all ??
they did seem to have a fair few bikes, but its very hard to cover it all.
I think the bike marshals do need to be more stern though and if a cyclist is even close, just beep them at the very least.
When i was at the timing van place, they were inputting a fair few race numbers for drafting penalties

Oryx · 04-06-2013 10:42am

Two girls passed me on a wide stretch (no excuse for it), working as a team, the one to the rear a foot from the other rear wheel. They stayed like that for as far as I could see them, about two miles. They passed a stopped marshal, and went side by side, then back in the previous formation. Other than that, people were wheel sucking all the time, not just on tight stretches. I dont blame the course.

miller82 · 04-06-2013 10:50am

Oryx wrote: »

Two girls passed me on a wide stretch (no excuse for it), working as a team, the one to the rear a foot from the other rear wheel. They stayed like that for as far as I could see them, about two miles. They passed a stopped marshal, and went side by side, then back in the previous formation. Other than that, people were wheel sucking all the time, not just on tight stretches. I dont blame the course.

no i agree , its not just down to the course, i think the volume is a bigger issue probably. unl;ess they trippled the number of bike marshals, it was always on the cards. But as i said, the marshals need to get the thumb out more.
Are most bike marshals from Tri backgrounds ??

elvis jones · 04-06-2013 10:52am

miller82 wrote: »

no i agree , its not just down to the course, i think the volume is a bigger issue probably. unl;ess they trippled the number of bike marshals, it was always on the cards. But as i said, the marshals need to get the thumb out more.
Are most bike marshals from Tri backgrounds ??

Ya the majority are from Trilogy tri club, by that i mean the static marshals on the route. Oh and getting 165 marshals is hard enough without trying to add to it !!!

Oryx · 04-06-2013 10:53am

miller82 wrote: »

no i agree , its not just down to the course, i think the volume is a bigger issue probably. unl;ess they trippled the number of bike marshals, it was always on the cards. But as i said, the marshals need to get the thumb out more.
Are most bike marshals from Tri backgrounds ??

Bike marshals are all trained by TI, but do not need any tri experience.

hardCopy · 04-06-2013 10:57am

Is there a record of any drafting penalties that were handed out? Or were there any at all?

I saw one huge pack heading back when I was at about 10-11KM on my way out. There must have been at least 10 of them and some were 3 abreast.

Mr.Fred · 04-06-2013 11:04am

hardCopy wrote: »

Is there a record of any drafting penalties that were handed out? Or were there any at all?

I saw one huge pack heading back when I was at about 10-11KM on my way out. There must have been at least 10 of them and some were 3 abreast.

I saw a number of drafting 2-3min penalties on a board for dbl oly. I think They just need to reduce the number of entries overall.

miller82 · 04-06-2013 11:10am

elvis jones wrote: »

Ya the majority are from Trilogy tri club, by that i mean the static marshals on the route. Oh and getting 165 marshals is hard enough without trying to add to it !!!

i meant the motorbike marshals

miller82 · 04-06-2013 11:25am

Mr.Fred wrote: »

I think They just need to reduce the number of entries overall.

yeah that wont be happening

elvis jones · 04-06-2013 1:06pm

miller82 wrote: »

yeah that wont be happening

Well said ! May 31st 2014 is already set for next year.

I forgot to say thanks to all who raced. You help raise some much needed funds for Trilogy Triathlon Club !

bryangiggsy · 04-06-2013 1:38pm

Did i not see a post on FB that a girls Specialised allez was taken from transition? Any one know if she got it back?

elvis jones · 04-06-2013 1:40pm

bryangiggsy wrote: »

Did i not see a post on FB that a girls Specialised allez was taken from transition? Any one know if she got it back?

I seen and shared a post from Midland tri saying that a bike was taken at TriAthy but i don't know if it said it was taken from transition or off a car. Bad form on whoever took it.

bryangiggsy · 04-06-2013 1:40pm

A girl from Midland tri club. Specialised Tarmac.

miller82 · 04-06-2013 2:23pm

I went by a girl from pirahana club that was on the deck just at the start of the bike route, not far past the garage. she looked shook. any word on injuries ?

elvis jones · 04-06-2013 2:24pm

miller82 wrote: »

I went by a girl from pirahana club that was on the deck just at the start of the bike route, not far past the garage. she looked shook. any word on injuries ?

She's fine i believe, there were two "crashes" on the bike route that i know of and they are fine.

Mr.Fred · 04-06-2013 2:34pm

I saw another lad I think, it was just at the rail track looked like nasty road rash down his arm and shoulder. Worn with pride today no doubt.

elvis jones · 04-06-2013 2:35pm

Mr.Fred wrote: »

I saw another lad I think, it was just at the rail track looked like nasty road rash down his arm and shoulder. Worn with pride today no doubt.

I know he was fine, i got his bike brought back in. Very nice fella !

TriAthy 2013

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