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Dun Laoghaire Traffic & Commuting Chat

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,330 ✭✭✭fixXxer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    ^^ This article is wildly inaccurate.

    The Govt didn't ALSO announce a 400k feasibility study, they ONLY announced a feasibility study.

    The €8 million (or 40 million in Childrens Hospital inflation) will have to be found once the project is designed and gets planning approval. I'd say minimum 5 years away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭crushproof


    Cannot wait to see the NIMBYS lose their minds over this fantastic looking development at the old St Michael's car park. 102 units, the views from which would be incredible!

    1824496_DunLaoghaire_V15_RevH-Boosted.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,658 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    ^^^ looks great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Aye, bang on, just the spot for it. In the end the height may be reduced in planning to match the adjoining property, but it's a nice enough design.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Hopefully the height won't be reduced, the sooner we realise we need to build up in this country the better.

    Very nice design actually.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    A prime location indeed.

    image.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,616 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    My Gran was in St Michaels for a few months last year. Her ward effectively had that view. Can confirm it was absolutely class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I'm all for taller heights in the right setting, but as a planner I've seen this as common practice to apply for excessive height as a distraction perhaps from other issues, only to be granted lower at the level which was the objective of the developer in the first place.

    There are a few landmark taller public buildings on the DL seafront, but the county development plan and urban framework plan for Dun Laoghaire town make me think they'll probably get 8 stories max rather than 12.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭Blut2


    I'd suspect they'll likely get 8 as well, that'd put it one above the neighbouring building - so a lot more continuous looking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,658 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    What’s the height relative to city hall tower , library , and church towers ? Isn’t St Michaels elevated. So on the inland side the development won’t look high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The library is 29m, Town Hall clock tower is 36m. At 12 storeys proposed you are looking at around 36m also. I think the residential skyline versus the landmark public and historic skyline is pretty well established, I don't think it will be granted 12.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    Anyone know where you can still get take away coffee in Dún Laoghaire?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,658 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Anyone know where you can still get take away coffee in Dún Laoghaire?

    Yes: https://casperandgiumbinis.ie/

    You can get take away coffee there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    Anyone know where you can still get take away coffee in Dún Laoghaire?

    Missy Moops is I've just discovered. Also selling flour for anyone who can't get it in the supermarket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    Also Shoe Lane just reopened for takeaway yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,330 ✭✭✭fixXxer


    Missing Le chocolat de Frèd the most. That spicey hot chocolate they do is amazing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭roroliam


    Well done to the two lads in Costello Hardware, very happy to get my gas cylinder for the Mother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭boombang


    I've heard JJ Darboven is open for coffee, but I'm yet to see them trading myself.

    Insomnia at Meadows and Byrne is open for sure. Evidenced by all cups left all over the place by lazy feckers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Seaswimmer


    roroliam wrote: »
    Well done to the two lads in Costello Hardware, very happy to get my gas cylinder for the Mother.

    I don't think I have ever gone to Costellos and not got what I wanted or a perfect equivalent. For such a small area they seem to have a huge range of stock.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Good to see the essential bric-a-brac services are open again to the public in DL. Some shop called Vintique on Georges St has reopened to sell their essential wares to the all the people emerging from their 5km cocoons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,658 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Good to see the essential bric-a-brac services are open again to the public in DL. Some shop called Vintique on Georges St has reopened to sell their essential wares to the all the people emerging from their 5km cocoons.

    Would they be allowed open ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Bit of a rant.

    Planned to go for a walk out the West pier last week, all within the 5km restriction. Parked the car in Albany Ave to cross at the pedestrian bridge over the tracks. Bridge closed due to covid restrictions. Fair enough, decided to walk down to the Dart station where that bridge was also closed due to covid. Again fair enough, decided to walk down past the Purty Kitchen. Found the pedestrian bridge near the Circle K open.

    You would need traffic lights for the number of walkers bunching up and trying to cross here. No social distancing possible. So DLRCC in their wisdom decide to close 2 out of 3 pedestrian bridges due to covid restrictions and channel all pedestrians through the one remaining open bridge.

    Am I missing something here, or is there some logic to this??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭Yakov P. Golyadkin


    Seapoint has been closed, I assume the bridges at Albany Avenue and the Dart station are closed to prevent access.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭frash


    Mav11 wrote: »
    Bit of a rant.

    Planned to go for a walk out the West pier last week, all within the 5km restriction. Parked the car in Albany Ave to cross at the pedestrian bridge over the tracks. Bridge closed due to covid restrictions. Fair enough, decided to walk down to the Dart station where that bridge was also closed due to covid. Again fair enough, decided to walk down past the Purty Kitchen. Found the pedestrian bridge near the Circle K open.

    You would need traffic lights for the number of walkers bunching up and trying to cross here. No social distancing possible. So DLRCC in their wisdom decide to close 2 out of 3 pedestrian bridges due to covid restrictions and channel all pedestrians through the one remaining open bridge.

    Am I missing something here, or is there some logic to this??


    I think you might have been unlucky
    I've gone over that bridge a few times these days & have always found everyone overly nice queuing for the pedestrian traffic to be going their way


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Mav11


    frash wrote: »
    I think you might have been unlucky
    I've gone over that bridge a few times these days & have always found everyone overly nice queuing for the pedestrian traffic to be going their way

    Absolutely, the point is why close 2 of the bridges and funnel everybody into the one remaining bridge? It is not going to help distancing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Seapoint has been closed, I assume the bridges at Albany Avenue and the Dart station are closed to prevent access.

    Seems a bit short sighted as people also use these bridges to access the harbour area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭Yakov P. Golyadkin


    True but it's easier to seal the bridges than to erect fencing the length of the sea wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Mav11


    True but it's easier to seal the bridges than to erect fencing the length of the sea wall.

    Probably is the easier of ways, not too sure its the best of ways when everything is taken into account!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    If you want to access the west pier, go by the coal quay bridge entrance into the harbour area, plenty of room for everyone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    If you want to access the west pier, go by the coal quay bridge entrance into the harbour area, plenty of room for everyone.

    That really is not the point!


  • Registered Users Posts: 205 ✭✭Awaaf


    Mav11 wrote: »


    That really is not the point!

    There may be an issue social distancing on the path between Seapoint and Salthill. That may be the reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭s8n


    Mav11 wrote: »
    Bit of a rant.

    Planned to go for a walk out the West pier last week, all within the 5km restriction. Parked the car in Albany Ave to cross at the pedestrian bridge over the tracks. Bridge closed due to covid restrictions. Fair enough, decided to walk down to the Dart station where that bridge was also closed due to covid. Again fair enough, decided to walk down past the Purty Kitchen. Found the pedestrian bridge near the Circle K open.

    You would need traffic lights for the number of walkers bunching up and trying to cross here. No social distancing possible. So DLRCC in their wisdom decide to close 2 out of 3 pedestrian bridges due to covid restrictions and channel all pedestrians through the one remaining open bridge.

    Am I missing something here, or is there some logic to this??

    why not stay at home ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Awaaf wrote: »
    There may be an issue social distancing on the path between Seapoint and Salthill. That may be the reason.

    You may be correct, but I think that it might be designed to prevent people congregating in Seapoint in the event of good weather. There had to be better ways of achieving this??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Mav11


    s8n wrote: »
    why not stay at home ??

    If you are not capable of keeping up with the discussion, then perhaps you shouldn't even try!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Mav11 wrote: »


    That really is not the point!

    Emmmm, it kinda is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Mav11 wrote: »
    Absolutely, the point is why close 2 of the bridges and funnel everybody into the one remaining bridge? It is not going to help distancing!
    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Emmmm, it kinda is.

    Emmmm, its kinda not.

    So, which of the big words above would you like explained??? Only too happy to help. Mav


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,901 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I think there's 2 points:

    a) Close certain access points to prevent those areas becoming a hot spot of people in good weather
    b) For the remaining access points, hope people see sense and DO NOT GO ANY FURTHER if there is too many people in those locations causing crowding

    Yes, it's nice to stretch out to the 5km, but the usual applies, if there's crowds, stay away, don't complain about the other idiots crowding and then become an idiot yourself by moving through the crowd, just go home, there will be other days when it's less busy you can go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Mav11 wrote: »
    Emmmm, its kinda not.

    So, which of the big words above would you like explained??? Only too happy to help. Mav

    Settle down princess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The owners of Dun Laoghaire shopping centre have, with HSE intent, applied to convert Level 3 of the building into a primary care centre.

    The 4,100 sq. m plan involves 1,800 sq.m of consulting and treatment space, an 800 sq.m GP suite and the balance, offices for ancillary and support services.

    The potential for increased footfall from staff and service users is fantastic.

    Lets hope it doesn't turn out to be too dull drab and dreary eh.... 🙄


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  • Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Gareth Keenan


    Primary care centre with a pen shop and a Peter Marks. The dream is real.


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    OK folks less of the personal attacks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    When they say HSE, hopefully that does not mean a methadone treatment facility, or another "Homeless" hostel.

    Any chance it could be something that the workers (when we get back) could benefit from, or is it more free stuff for the usual non-working benefactors (except of course for the genuine needy).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Primary care means GP services, ancillaries like physio, OTs, community nursing, ante natal, dieticians, bloods, x-ray and other diagnostics, minor injury clinic, dressings suite etc.

    I think DL is fairly well covered for methadone, don't you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭s8n


    Mav11 wrote: »
    If you are not capable of keeping up with the discussion, then perhaps you shouldn't even try!!!

    lol. passive aggressive much ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭SimonMaher


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Primary care means GP services, ancillaries like physio, OTs, community nursing, ante natal, dieticians, bloods, x-ray and other diagnostics, minor injury clinic, dressings suite etc.

    Looks like a pretty impressive facility from the plans published online this week. From what I can see it takes in all of the upper floor and not just the "extension" and Licenced Premises that was in the previous redevelopment plans.

    Very good result for Coltard if it all works out and definitely a very welcome development for the area. Would be better still if this permission is granted subject to the completion of the facade works that were planned for Phase 1 and 2 of the 2015 application which would take the hideous 1970s look off the building!

    Simon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Are the Clarinda Park Tennis Courts open again to the public?


  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭1 sheep2


    Does anyone know about the buildings between the hospital and Bloomfields? They seem to have been vacant for a generation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭dball


    were the VHi not the last occupants there, couldnt tell you who owns them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭Yakov P. Golyadkin


    Yeah, going back in time on Street view the VHI occupied the white part of the building up until 2009 and probably later, they were gone by 2014 though. It seems also that the green end was sold in 2017.


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