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Ireland Team Talk XI: Team of nervoUS MOD warning Post 1

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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,822 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    and with current french management he is too old.....


    Both are 9's in the match day 23 are 30 years of age :eek:

    english 9s are 30 and 33

    id prefer ours everytime


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    bilston wrote: »
    Italy were better than us throughout most of the 90s.

    I think the lowest point for Irish rugby must have been losing to Samoa on a Wednesday night at a half empty Lansdowne Rd around about 1997. We were a shambles!

    Back then Triple Crowns were a fantasy

    I was at that game, we were so poor, it’s hard to imagine any Irish team being that bad again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,187 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    The withdrawal of M Vunipola makes things interesting. I'd say Genge is almost his equal on ball carrying, but Vunipola and Marker have better all round games. You'd probably have to start Marker for his better scrummaging. But then you lose impact around the pitch. Puts a lot of pressure on the backrow now. Curry isn't a great carrier either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,848 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    aloooof wrote: »
    While we're reminiscing about France, here's a mad stat: Morgan Parra is only 31.

    And most of EO'S tenure was against Laporte and those world class back row forwards.
    Betsen, Magne, HardinOrakey followed by Dusautoir, Nyanga & Bonnaire.
    i think Ireland beat France once during that period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,848 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Clegg wrote: »
    The withdrawal of M Vunipola makes things interesting. I'd say Genge is almost his equal on ball carrying, but Vunipola and Marker have better all round games. You'd probably have to start Marker for his better scrummaging. But then you lose impact around the pitch. Puts a lot of pressure on the backrow now. Curry isn't a great carrier either.

    https://www.sixnationsrugby.com/2020/02/18/when-are-the-guinness-six-nations-team-announcements-for-round-three/

    England announcing team on Friday.
    If Tuilagi also doesn't make it and they go with Ford/Farrell/Joseph i would be confident of victory.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,808 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    https://www.sixnationsrugby.com/2020/02/18/when-are-the-guinness-six-nations-team-announcements-for-round-three/

    England announcing team on Friday.
    If Tuilagi also doesn't make it and they go with Ford/Farrell/Joseph i would be confident of victory.

    There is no doubt that without the Vunipolas and Tuilagi England become much more beatable.

    Confident of victory is a strong term when you are going to Twickenham, but I'd be hopeful we can do something.

    However we need to raise our game another level to what we saw against Wales. We really need the tight 5 to perform. Ryan and Henderson need to dominate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,848 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Dont be trying to rise me on Henderson!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    And most of EO'S tenure was against Laporte and those world class back row forwards.
    Betsen, Magne, HardinOrakey followed by Dusautoir, Nyanga & Bonnaire.
    i think Ireland beat France once during that period.
    That's the best spelling of Harinordoquy's name I've ever seen. :D

    Some bunch of players in that period though: Pelous, Jauzion, Yachvili, Heymans, Rougerie, Clerc...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 kickfacer


    kilns wrote: »
    I think POM will start on Sunday with Doris on the bench but I hate stuff like what Wood comes up with on Off The Ball, forget POMs stats and if he is not playing great, he is important because he the emotional heartbeat of the team :rolleyes:

    You can't compare POM and Doris. Apples and oranges.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    english 9s are 30 and 33

    id prefer ours everytime


    It was a discussion about french 9's.....they have a couple of decent ones....

    England are really struggling, even the push for Spencer and he is 27/28 now, not over the hill but still 32 come next WC


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    kilns wrote: »
    I think POM will start on Sunday with Doris on the bench but I hate stuff like what Wood comes up with on Off The Ball, forget POMs stats and if he is not playing great, he is important because he the emotional heartbeat of the team :rolleyes:


    I was listening to Wood all this 6 nations. most of the time he is talking about POM on the bench and having him to close out the game. Not to start...

    Even one I listened to this morning he mentioned it again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,848 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    That's the best spelling of Harinordoquy's name I've ever seen. :D

    Some bunch of players in that period though: Pelous, Jauzion, Yachvili, Heymans, Rougerie, Clerc...

    ove those basque names with the Q's, U's, Z's and X's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    It was a discussion about french 9's.....they have a couple of decent ones....

    England are really struggling, even the push for Spencer and he is 27/28 now, not over the hill but still 32 come next WC
    To be fair, they always have a couple of decent ones. Dupont stands out because he's a genuine superstar, but over the years, there have been some greats like Yachvili and Parra. Machenaud would have been the most vanilla of the bunch and yet he's a very good scrum half.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,612 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    kickfacer wrote: »
    You can't compare POM and Doris. Apples and oranges.

    Did you lose a bet? Impressive apples-oranges-post count ratio.
    kickfacer wrote: »
    You're comparing apples and oranges.
    kickfacer wrote: »
    Apples and oranges.
    kickfacer wrote: »
    Wetherspoons and Brewdog are apples and oranges.
    kickfacer wrote: »
    That is like comparing apples and oranges.
    kickfacer wrote: »
    Comparing apples and oranges,
    kickfacer wrote: »
    Same here. Convenience store lunches can be so bad. It's like comparing apples and oranges.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,822 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    What ever happened to chalk and cheese?


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭Scythica


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    What ever happened to chalk and cheese?

    Dave Kearney or Zebo.

    Brings me back to the great 2013 debates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,408 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    What ever happened to chalk and cheese?

    You can’t really compare them, they’re apples and oranges.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,612 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    What ever happened to chalk and cheese?

    I think they got a handful of caps before Brunel played them out of position and they were never seen again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭Reps4jesus


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    That's the best spelling of Harinordoquy's name I've ever seen. :D

    Some bunch of players in that period though: Pelous, Jauzion, Yachvili, Heymans, Rougerie, Clerc...

    Jauzion is right up there for my favorite player of all time. He just oozed class


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    I take great offense to rugby players being referred to as orange. We are a United Ireland when it comes to Rugby and a players background of the green of Ireland or being close to the orange order has no place in this discussion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Have a sudden urge for some Vitamin C


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,612 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Have a sudden urge for some Vitamin C

    Don't mix it up with Vitamin A. They're like night and day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭Panda Killa


    Skipped a few pages, just in case I didn't Spot it here..... Mako Vunipola definitely out as he's travelling home


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I was listening to Wood all this 6 nations. most of the time he is talking about POM on the bench and having him to close out the game. Not to start...

    Even one I listened to this morning he mentioned it again


    That isn't really sensible. POM isn't great at adding to the attack or the best equipped to withstand a siege on the line.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    What ever happened to chalk and cheese?


    No one ever heard of sn effin' cheese bastard.:D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    Cian Tracey predicting an unchanged side to face England.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,808 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    yerrahbah wrote: »
    Cian Tracey predicting an unchanged side to face England.

    No surprises if confirmed. The question will be whether Doris returns to the squad with Deegan dropping out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    yerrahbah wrote: »
    Cian Tracey predicting an unchanged side to face England.

    Gerry Thornley too but I think they're both speculating rather than working on inside info.

    In fairness, POM has earned the right to start again, as has Murray. And Conway's performance against Wales put paid to any prospect of Earls coming back in.

    Hopefully we'll see rotation for Italy but unchanged side this week sounds good to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,808 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Gerry Thornley too but I think they're both speculating rather than working on inside info.

    In fairness, POM has earned the right to start again, as has Murray. And Conway's performance against Wales put paid to any prospect of Earls coming back in.

    Hopefully we'll see rotation for Italy but unchanged side this week sounds good to me.

    There may not even be that many changes against Italy. Bearing in mind there are 3 weeks between the England and France games, Farrell may want to keep the machine well oiled.


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