Guinness Pro 14- Tv Viewing Options

Digifriendly · 24-07-2018 6:15pm

kooga wrote: »

I suppose with regard to FTA on these islands

TG4 for Ireland
S4C/Freesports for the UK
with regard to TG4 being available in NI I wonder on sky and virgin will the games be geo blocked

I suppose they went with S4c over BBC Alba for possibly two reasons

S4c available in HD
S4c English commentary on the red button

In addition TG4 HD is available on eir vision at no extra cost i.e on the €15 pm eir essential pack (plus eir sport 1 and 2 HD included in that price as well)

I would highly doubt that TG4 matches would be geo blocked on Sky/Virgin/Freeview in NI. AFAIK TG4 never has geo blocking in NI and this is largely due to GFA which guaranteed Irish language broadcasting for the whole of the island. When Irish Pro 12/Pro 14 derbies were simulcast on both Sky Sports and TG4, geo blocking did not take place so I cannot see it taking place now.
My only question for viewers in N. ireland is this - at present if you subscribe to Premier Sports you get Premier Sports and Eir Sports 1. Now that Premier Sports are about to launch a second channel will this second channel be available to N. Ireland subscribers in place of Eir Sport 1 or in addition to it?

kooga · 24-07-2018 6:33pm

Digifriendly wrote: »

I would highly doubt that TG4 matches would be geo blocked on Sky/Virgin/Freeview in NI. AFAIK TG4 never has geo blocking in NI and this is largely due to GFA which guaranteed Irish language broadcasting for the whole of the island. When Irish Pro 12/Pro 14 derbies were simulcast on both Sky Sports and TG4, geo blocking did not take place so I cannot see it taking place now.
My only question for viewers in N. ireland is this - at present if you subscribe to Premier Sports you get Premier Sports and Eir Sports 1. Now that Premier Sports are about to launch a second channel will this second channel be available to N. Ireland subscribers in place of Eir Sport 1 or in addition to it?

I may be wrong I don't think eir sport 1 was ever available in NI

With regard to Geo blocking I have virgin media in belfast and last Feb the Ulster v Edinburgh game was not available to me to watch on tg 4
We will just have to wait and see

Digifriendly · 24-07-2018 7:16pm

kooga wrote: »

I may be wrong I don't think eir sport 1 was ever available in NI

With regard to Geo blocking I have virgin media in belfast and last Feb the Ulster v Edinburgh game was not available to me to watch on tg 4
We will just have to wait and see

Regarding Eir Sport 1 I do not subscribe but it appears on the Sky epg.
Thanks for this info re geo blocking on Virgin media. . In light of this, I have the feeling that only Virgin Media geo block TG4 and not Sky or Freeview as I have TG4 on both the latter and I have not experienced this yet.
Can I just say that TG4 is easily receivable via Freeview in the Belfast area as it broadcasts from both Black Mountain and Carnmoney. Only small issue is that you need a TV/DTT box/PVR with inbuilt Freeview HD tuner to get it.

kooga · 24-07-2018 7:47pm

Digifriendly wrote: »

Regarding Eir Sport 1 I do not subscribe but it appears on the Sky epg.
Thanks for this info re geo blocking on Virgin media. . In light of this, I have the feeling that only Virgin Media geo block TG4 and not Sky or Freeview as I have TG4 on both the latter and I have not experienced this yet.
Can I just say that TG4 is easily receivable via Freeview in the Belfast area as it broadcasts from both Black Mountain and Carnmoney. Only small issue is that you need a TV/DTT box/PVR with inbuilt Freeview HD tuner to get it.[/quote
I haven't put up an aerial - I just have the basic tv package with virgin as RTÉ 1 2 and tg 4 are on it - BB on its own was £33 pm v bb and tv was £29 pm - when my offer expires with virgin will get an aerial for freeview and Saorview and just take the one off install hit. Thanks again

i haven't checked whether the two months free premier sports has come on my virgin package in lieu of the loss of the U.K. tv channels

Tigerandahalf · 24-07-2018 9:01pm

I see someone mentioned on one of the broadband threads that eir are about to announce truly unlimited broadband for both fttc and ftth. Great news if true as I was worried that with streaming the matches I would go over the 1tb allowance.

I wonder will eirsports launch a catchup streaming service for these matches just like eurosport has for its content?

Catchup tv has grown hugely and providers need to supply solutions.

Digifriendly · 25-07-2018 10:03am

Just to say that Saorview as you are probably aware will ensure no geo blocking on any channel (important for coverage of Ireland's AI's in November) and if I'm right coverage of at least one CC game live per pool stage which is now to be shown on TV3.

MJohnston · 25-07-2018 10:04am

There's an edit post button, you know

kooga · 25-07-2018 10:17am

First month TG4 coverage - two games per weekend

31.08.18 @ 7.35pm Live Cardiff Blues v Leinster
01.09.18 @ 3.00pm Live Connacht v Glasgow Warriors
08.09.18 @ 5.15pm Live Connacht v Zebre
08.09.18 @ 7.35pm Live Scarlets v Leinster
14.09.18 @ 7.35pm Live Munster v Ospreys
15.09.18 @ 5.15pm Live Leinster v Dragons
21.09.18 @ 7.35pm Live Cardiff Blues v Munster
22.09.18 @ 5.15pm Live Connacht v Scarlets
29.09.18 @ 5.15pm Live Connacht v Leinster

I had a look at the S4c coverage and Freesports coverage and they have a game each every weekend FTA

so all in all 4 games out of 7 per weekend FTA

MJohnston · 25-07-2018 10:42am

kooga wrote: »

First month TG4 coverage - two games per weekend

31.08.18 @ 7.35pm Live Cardiff Blues v Leinster
01.09.18 @ 3.00pm Live Connacht v Glasgow Warriors
08.09.18 @ 5.15pm Live Connacht v Zebre
08.09.18 @ 7.35pm Live Scarlets v Leinster
14.09.18 @ 7.35pm Live Munster v Ospreys
15.09.18 @ 5.15pm Live Leinster v Dragons
21.09.18 @ 7.35pm Live Cardiff Blues v Munster
22.09.18 @ 5.15pm Live Connacht v Scarlets
29.09.18 @ 5.15pm Live Connacht v Leinster

I had a look at the S4c coverage and Freesports coverage and they have a game each every weekend FTA

so all in all 4 games out of 7 per weekend FTA

Are the S4C and Freesports games always going to be different to the TG4 ones though?

kooga · 25-07-2018 10:51am

MJohnston wrote: »

Are the S4C and Freesports games always going to be different to the TG4 ones though?

From a quick trawl of the broadcast fixtures up till march there are only three FTA duplicates broadcasts on s4c and tg4

3/11 con v dragons
26 /1 Cardiff v con
2/3 scarlets v munster

so overall the FTA coverage is extensive

Digifriendly · 27-07-2018 10:56am

With TG4/S4C and Freesports covering at least one match per weekend I wonder how many will stomp up £9.99 per month in UK for Premier Sports package? Problem for viewers in N.I. is lack of Ulster home games on these FTA channels and so some will no doubt bite the bullet and pay. I already subscribe to Sky Sports/BT Sport so this is a big ask.

kooga · 27-07-2018 11:24am

the 9 month season would cost you £90 there is an annual pass for £99 from premier

just to say there will be no English commentary on S4C via the red button

Digifriendly · 27-07-2018 1:50pm

kooga wrote: »

the 9 month season would cost you £90 there is an annual pass for £99 from premier

just to say there will be no English commentary on S4C via the red button

I do not mind Welsh language commentary or Irish language in any way but if I do end up subscribing to Premier I will probably watch their coverage over S4C's or TG4's.

MJohnston · 27-07-2018 2:13pm

Anyone heard anything about which Pro14 games Rugbypass will have access to?

awec · 29-07-2018 11:56am

FTA games in Ireland until Christmas (there are two weeks with no FTA game).

Cardiff v Leinster
Scarlets v Leinster
Munster v Ospreys
Leinster v Dragons
Cardiff v Munster
Connacht v Scarlets
Connacht v Leinster
Ospreys v Connacht
Connacht v Dragons
Leinster v Ospreys
Dragons v Leinster
Connacht v Ulster

Leinster x 6, Munster x 2, Connacht x 5, Ulster x 1.

In the UK, Ulster are never on Freesports, but they are on S4C once and BBC Alba twice.

Basically Ulster fans without Premier Sports won't ever get to see Ulster in English before Christmas at least.

eclipsechaser · 29-07-2018 1:16pm

If you have eir broadband only and therefore access to the Eir App with casting, is there any way to record games to watch later? The app doesn't seem to allow it but is there a workaround? I have an all-in-one PC that has an input and output HDMI if that helps.

kooga · 29-07-2018 2:38pm

awec wrote: »

FTA games in Ireland until Christmas (there are two weeks with no FTA game).

Cardiff v Leinster
Scarlets v Leinster
Munster v Ospreys
Leinster v Dragons
Cardiff v Munster
Connacht v Scarlets
Connacht v Leinster
Ospreys v Connacht
Connacht v Dragons
Leinster v Ospreys
Dragons v Leinster
Connacht v Ulster

Leinster x 6, Munster x 2, Connacht x 5, Ulster x 1.

In the UK, Ulster are never on Freesports, but they are on S4C once and BBC Alba twice.

Basically Ulster fans without Premier Sports won't ever get to see Ulster in English before Christmas at least.

Is this a combined tg4 s4c freesports list

Where did you get BBC alba - are they now onboard?

awec · 29-07-2018 2:46pm

kooga wrote: »

Is this a combined tg4 s4c freesports list

Where did you get BBC alba - are they now onboard?

I only took TG4 as that's the only channel everyone in Ireland can get.

It was on the Pro14 site.

Tigerandahalf · 29-07-2018 4:20pm

Here are the tv fixtures.
https://www.pro14rugby.org/match-centre/fixtures/
Going by the above eirsports aren't listed for all games and some games only have Premier Sports as the broadcaster. I presume it is an oversight.

awec · 01-08-2018 4:08pm

I see Premier Sports have outsourced the production of all their games to another company called Sunset and Vine. Same lads who do the Premier League for BT.

Tigerandahalf · 01-08-2018 7:56pm

awec wrote: »

I see Premier Sports have outsourced the production of all their games to another company called Sunset and Vine. Same lads who do the Premier League for BT.

And BT's rugby.

bilston · 01-08-2018 10:16pm

Promising move I think.

It will be interesting to see what their team is.

Any hints?

Digifriendly · 01-08-2018 10:24pm

bilston wrote: »

Promising move I think.

It will be interesting to see what their team is.

Any hints?

Not Jonathan Davies according to Wales Online. Wonder will recently retired Sam Warburton be part of their team?

bilston · 01-08-2018 10:44pm

Digifriendly wrote: »

bilston wrote: »

Promising move I think.

It will be interesting to see what their team is.

Any hints?

Not Jonathan Davies according to Wales Online. Wonder will recently retired Sam Warburton be part of their team?

Wondered that myself. He was excellent on the BBC during the 6Ns.

I expect there will be a crossover between Eir Sports and Premier.

mogwai81 · 02-08-2018 5:57am

Do BT sports have sole coverage of European Rugby this year or is it split between them and Sky Sports again? Not sure where to post this question.

Digifriendly · 02-08-2018 6:05am

mogwai81 wrote: »

Do BT sports have sole coverage of European Rugby this year or is it split between them and Sky Sports again? Not sure where to post this question.

BT have the rights but there will be 1 live FTA match per round of pool games on Channel 4 and afaik TV3 will show 1 live match per round.

PMC83 · 02-08-2018 8:50am

They had premier sports on in the pub last night (Dublin), seemed legit, screen had that little pint icon in the corner. Be curious as to how they got that in the republic. I can't get Eir unless half my garden is dug up!

kooga · 02-08-2018 8:52am

PMC83 wrote: »

They had premier sports on in the pub last night (Dublin), seemed legit, screen had that little pint icon in the corner. Be curious as to how they got that in the republic. I can't get Eir unless half my garden is dug up!

was their a match on?

if so they often leave the premier sport logo on eir sport 2

PMC83 · 02-08-2018 8:58am

Rugby Union, I did notice that match was on Eir earlier in the day.

Cookiemunster · 02-08-2018 9:11am

PMC83 wrote: »

They had premier sports on in the pub last night (Dublin), seemed legit, screen had that little pint icon in the corner. Be curious as to how they got that in the republic. I can't get Eir unless half my garden is dug up!

It was probably Eir Sport 2. That is basically Premier Sports. Almost the same programming line up. And I have seen Premier sports logo in the top corner of the screen.

Homesick Alien · 02-08-2018 11:26am

awec wrote: »

FTA games in Ireland until Christmas (there are two weeks with no FTA game).

Cardiff v Leinster
Scarlets v Leinster
Munster v Ospreys
Leinster v Dragons
Cardiff v Munster
Connacht v Scarlets
Connacht v Leinster
Ospreys v Connacht
Connacht v Dragons
Leinster v Ospreys
Dragons v Leinster
Connacht v Ulster

Leinster x 6, Munster x 2, Connacht x 5, Ulster x 1.

In the UK, Ulster are never on Freesports, but they are on S4C once and BBC Alba twice.

Basically Ulster fans without Premier Sports won't ever get to see Ulster in English before Christmas at least.

Only two FTA Munster games. Sake.

kooga · 02-08-2018 11:47am

awec wrote: »

I only took TG4 as that's the only channel everyone in Ireland can get.

It was on the Pro14 site.

I cant find on the Pro 14 site where BBC Alba is down as a broadcaster?

Former Former · 02-08-2018 12:04pm

Homesick Alien wrote: »

Only two FTA Munster games. Sake.

Up to Christmas. There are 4 Munster games on TG4 in Jan/Feb/March

awec · 02-08-2018 1:26pm

kooga wrote: »

I cant find on the Pro 14 site where BBC Alba is down as a broadcaster?

Ah, there's a bug on the Pro14 site.

When you look at the fixture list there is a Red S logo beside some of them, the alt text for the image is "BBC Alba" but it's the logo for Supersports.

So I guess Ulster are only FTA once before Christmas.

Riskymove · 02-08-2018 4:20pm

awec wrote: »

Ah, there's a bug on the Pro14 site.

Has TG4 disappeared from fixture list?

Digifriendly · 02-08-2018 11:01pm

Son paid subscription to Premier Sports so I now get Eir Sports 1, Premier Sports 1HD and Premier Sports 2. Picture quality of PS 2 is not great even for SD but otherwise pleased with product.

Elvisjuice · 03-08-2018 1:44am

eir sports one going to HD within a few weeks.

Digifriendly · 03-08-2018 9:49pm

BBC Wales to show Principality Premiership rugby on Friday nights to fill hole left by losing Pro 14 rights to Premier Sports. Also looks like their Scrum V programme will be retained but concentrate solely on Welsh Premiership and not have any Pro 14 highlights.

Clegg · 07-08-2018 6:17pm

Tommy Bowe, Luke Fitz, DoC, Mazzie Reilly and Murray Kinsella are the Eir Sport pundits for next season's Pro 14.

https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/1026868549699207172?s=19

wp_rathead · 07-08-2018 7:12pm

Looking forward to seeing Murray Kinsella on the box
He was under used by TV3 during the RWC

Burkie1203 · 07-08-2018 7:31pm

Clegg wrote: »

Tommy Bowe, Luke Fitz, DoC, Mazzie Reilly and Murray Kinsella are the Eir Sport pundits for next season's Pro 14.

https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/1026868549699207172?s=19

https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/1026868017244852225?s=19

icdg · 07-08-2018 8:40pm

Bowe has been hired as the anchor.

https://www.eirsport.ie/bowe-to-lead-eir-sport-s-pro14-coverage

Tigerandahalf · 07-08-2018 8:55pm

Not a huge fan of Fitz, comes across as a cocky sort.

Kinsella on the highlights show could be very good.

Have to see how Tommy handles the anchor role. Will he be airing his views?

What about pundits for premier/freesports as many of these games will be simulcast between the channels?

awec · 07-08-2018 9:15pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Not a huge fan of Fitz, comes across as a cocky sort.

Kinsella on the highlights show could be very good.

Have to see how Tommy handles the anchor role. Will he be airing his views?

What about pundits for premier/freesports as many of these games will be simulcast between the channels?

Or incredibly boring and mundane if he is anything like how he writes.

"Well Tommy, if we spend 5 minutes going through this line break frame by frame, you will see here that this player should have been approximately 3.2 feet to his left, with his arm at a slightly more acute angle. However because this other player was running at him at a velocity of 4 feet per second, it caused him to take a step to the right roughly 1.2 seconds earlier than he should have, and this caused the line break".

I think he'll be forced to dial the detail back because it'll have no mainstream appeal. There is a reason he doesn't have a writing gig with an actual media outlet.

Squidgy Black · 07-08-2018 9:19pm

awec wrote: »

Or incredibly boring and mundane if he is anything like how he writes.

"Well Tommy, if we spend 5 minutes going through this line break frame by frame, you will see here that this player should have been approximately 3.2 feet to his left, with his arm at a slightly more acute angle. However because this other player was running at him at a velocity of 4 feet per second, it caused him to take a step to the right roughly 1.2 seconds earlier than he should have, and this caused the line break".

I think he'll be forced to dial the detail back because it'll have no mainstream appeal. There is a reason he doesn't have a writing gig with an actual media outlet.

He'll have to reign it in or else people will switch off almost immediately.

His analysis is superb on a detail level, but 99% of punters won't want to listen about every absolute miniscule detail of a mundane play.

awec · 07-08-2018 9:20pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

He'll have to reign it in or else people will switch off almost immediately.

His analysis is superb on a detail level, but 99% of punters won't want to listen about every absolute miniscule detail of a mundane play.

I think his analysis is a load of bollocks tbh.

He analyses against absolute perfection, as if players are just robots.

The Lost Sheep · 07-08-2018 9:54pm

awec wrote: »

Or incredibly boring and mundane if he is anything like how he writes.

"Well Tommy, if we spend 5 minutes going through this line break frame by frame, you will see here that this player should have been approximately 3.2 feet to his left, with his arm at a slightly more acute angle. However because this other player was running at him at a velocity of 4 feet per second, it caused him to take a step to the right roughly 1.2 seconds earlier than he should have, and this caused the line break".

I think he'll be forced to dial the detail back because it'll have no mainstream appeal. There is a reason he doesn't have a writing gig with an actual media outlet.

When on tv previously he didnt go anything like that for 2015 world cup.

awec wrote: »

I think his analysis is a load of bollocks tbh.

He analyses against absolute perfection, as if players are just robots.

I wouldnt say a load of bollocks which is quite harsh but if his analysis was as good as some make it out to be he'd have a job as a team analyst

Tigerandahalf · 07-08-2018 10:17pm

His analysis will be fine as he will be on the highlights show, which will suit him.

The days of just yapping in the studio are in decline.
I do think a balance is needed. I'd like to see something like the Champions League magazine show where players and past players are interviewed, plus quick round up of all scores in games.

Btw does anyone know if eir will be offering a catchup/on demand section. A lot of the other apps like Eurosport and Eleven Sports are offering that.

Neil3030 · 07-08-2018 10:34pm

Wow Murray has serious heat with Awec - did he once skip you in the queue at an Alcohol Kombucha festival?

Burkie1203 · 07-08-2018 10:37pm

Neil3030 wrote: »

Wow Murray has serious heat with Awec - did he once skip you in the queue at an Alcohol Kombucha festival?

Worse. He wrote a positive article about Ulster in 2013

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