Today's bargain watch that I'm not buying

unkel · 18-02-2021 5:55pm

That's the sh1ttiest sh1tter I've ever seen

(no offense)

wanderer 22 · 18-02-2021 5:58pm

The best feature has to be the two fake subdials

18-02-2021 6:23pm

Cyclingtourist wrote: »

I have one that I have rarely worn. Think I paid something in the mid 60s for it about a year ago. I could break the habit of a lifetime and sell it to you if interested.

I just saw your reply now, PM'd

colm18 wrote: »

You don't need to be blowing 2 figure sums of cash for stainless steel - 4 euro delivered from Aliexpress (purely to test the size I hasten to add :pac:). Arrived 2 days ago and I'm somewhat shocked it's still running...

I did not recognise this

colm18 wrote: »

The best feature has to be the two fake subdials

Until you said this,

I was given one of these as a gift, although mine has 3 fake subdials, the Yazole 271.
I'm far from an expert but when I was given it, I wasn't sure if it was an insult or a joke, I think it was a genuine gift, never worn, and doesnt run anymore, tidy looking, someone could wear it as a dress watch if stuck, but cheap.

The Inbetween is mine · 19-02-2021 2:13pm

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254870023742
I do like this, no idea of what it's selling price should actually be, but it looks in good knick

Cyclingtourist · 19-02-2021 2:21pm

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254870023742
I do like this, no idea of what it's selling price should actually be, but it looks in good knick

It will take a week to find out.

Fitz II · 19-02-2021 3:04pm

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254870023742
I do like this, no idea of what it's selling price should actually be, but it looks in good knick

32mm......far too small for a man.

mrm · 19-02-2021 4:03pm

Fitz II wrote: »

32mm......far too small for a man.

'Click image to enlarge'....sorted!

Cienciano · 19-02-2021 4:22pm

Always check size when looking at vintage stuff

The Inbetween is mine · 19-02-2021 4:26pm

Sorry, it's not for myself, relatives 50th in 3 weeks, so am going to see can I pick it up if the price stays keen

dinorebel · 19-02-2021 4:56pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Always check size when looking at vintage stuff

Something my (17 yrs) younger wife often mentions.

Wibbs · 19-02-2021 6:24pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Always check size when looking at vintage stuff

+1. Overall for most of the 20th century men's watches were around the 35mm, but in some periods the trends are smaller. EG the 80's under 35mm was the norm. I suspect the Omega dates from that time. The trend in the 70's was for generally larger 36-40mm.

Lorddrakul · 19-02-2021 6:53pm

Wibbs wrote: »

+1. Overall for most of the 20th century men's watches were around the 35mm, but in some periods the trends are smaller. EG the 80's under 35mm was the norm. I suspect the Omega dates from that time. The trend in the 70's was for generally larger 36-40mm.

Aye, this.

I had a lovely late 60s diver, with a lovely Valjoux 92 movement. The case was 36mm across, without the crown. The diver bezel was a smidge smaller still.

In every way, it was lovely. But it was just too small for me. It's proportions were perfect, but every time I looked at it on my wrist, it just seemed to get smaller. I have a couple of 39s and one 37mm, but the 37 has shrouded lugs that make it wear much bigger. But that classic 36mm size is just too small for me.

It's such a pity as there are so many gorgeous vintage watches in that range that are well within reach.

My sweet spot, to my eye and wrist, is 42mm, 45 at a pinch, but anything bigger gets unwieldy.

It is so subjective, and doesn't make a lot of sense, but them's the breaks.

Wibbs · 19-02-2021 10:09pm

Yeah, I've seen people try to get into the vintage thing and get out just as quickly because of the sizes involved. Some just like yourself who thought they could live with it, but found nope, the vintage piece was left in the watchbox. Dress watches were usually 35mm or under, tool watches were 33-38, even chronos were 34-36mm. 40mm and above was a rarity indeed, mostly confined to specialist divers and pilots watches(and even then. IIRC the first Rolex Diver/Sub was 36 or 37mm, some Longines Weems in WW2 were 28mm). As well as the fashion aspect to it, more men were also of a slighter frame in the past. So smaller wrists is a part of it too. I've vintage wrists

so say a 36mm on me looks more like a 40 on a normal guy, so it's less an issue for me. Plus I go through periods of preferring a smaller watch anyway. My sweet spot I suppose is 35mm.

fat bloke · 21-02-2021 12:39pm

https://www.adverts.ie/casual/hamilton-x-wind/22934293?notification=483737c3a0309d4fbe7e85470778d148-1613832099&utm_campaign=AdWatchCommented&utm_medium=link&utm_source=email

Auto Chrono's from a big brand manufacturer probably don't come much cheaper do they?

Edit

And another one.

https://www.adverts.ie/casual/tagheuer-aquaracer-auto/22691621?notification=3b660dc4309574056a7d26a37df63763-1613913881&utm_campaign=AdWatchCommented&utm_medium=link&utm_source=email

This is usually around the asking for quartz f1 chronographs

fat bloke · 22-02-2021 11:28am

Spectacular indifference to my "bargains"

. What are ye not telling me? Good? Bad? Overpriced?

Wibbs · 22-02-2021 11:33am

Hardly overpriced at that level.

Hamilton seem to get generally favourable reviews and as you note at that kinda money you can't really go wrong. They take a hit in the used market, but aren;t exactly mad money new either.

unkel · 22-02-2021 12:01pm

Auto chrono Hamilton with the Valjoux 7750 for €700 second hand is a lot of watch for the money. Most depreciation out of the way already, a great buy imho.

22-02-2021 2:42pm

Are they legit?

handlemaster · 23-02-2021 11:07am

https://www.norqain.com/watches/freedom-60-chrono-anthracite/

what is this brand like ? any experience ?

fat bloke · 23-02-2021 11:29am

handlemaster wrote: »

https://www.norqain.com/watches/freedom-60-chrono-anthracite/

what is this brand like ? any experience ?

Nice, particularly that chrono, but yikes - up to and over 4 grand for a 100m diver from a Johnny-come-lately, whatchamacallumagain?-Swiss brand?

https://www.norqain.com/watches/adventure-sport-auto-gold-black/

Wibbs · 23-02-2021 11:33am

Four grand? Ah here. Someone in that company is on the waccy baccy.

Cienciano · 23-02-2021 11:39am

Movement is €225.

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Watch-Movement-2824-2-Swiss/dp/B07D6TR867

€4k is crazy. Some expensive brands jump up their prices so it feels "exclusive" or exotic.

Wibbs · 23-02-2021 2:23pm

Stock ETA and the like mechanical movements are a lot cheaper than many realise and you can be sure manufacturers bulk buying get them even cheaper again. Never mind how cheap other members of the Swatch group can buy in ETA movements. So a mechanical movement like that costs say 150-200 quid for a brand, an ETA quartz movement runs around 30 quid. Big difference it seems. However because of market perceptions and marketing there will be a bigger difference in RRP between a watch with a quartz movement and a watch with an automatic movement.

blue5000 · 23-02-2021 3:10pm

fat bloke wrote: »

Nice, particularly that chrono, but yikes - up to and over 4 grand for a 100m diver from a Johnny-come-lately, whatchamacallumagain?-Swiss brand?

https://www.norqain.com/watches/adventure-sport-auto-gold-black/

They had a little popup chat window, couldn't resist asking why 4k for an ETA movement, never thought I'd end up being a watchtroll when I got back into watches. Sad.

Cienciano · 23-02-2021 3:31pm

Wonder how much you'd get something similar on aliexpress?
It's crazy to think what known brands you could get for the same price. I'd go with 60 vostoks.

unkel · 23-02-2021 3:46pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Movement is €225.

I bought a brand new Swiss made diver with that ETA2824-2 movement for €210 including shipping a few years ago. I'd like to see transfer pricing but I doubt they'd be much higher than €100 excluding taxes

Cienciano · 23-02-2021 4:14pm

unkel wrote: »

I bought a brand new Swiss made diver with that ETA2824-2 movement for €210 including shipping a few years ago. I'd like to see transfer pricing but I doubt they'd be much higher than €100 excluding taxes

Unlucky, you could have got that watch for €4k.

Eoin · 23-02-2021 4:34pm

What are the odds that this is just a silly RRP purely to make the massive "discount" on Amazon or elsewhere seem like a steal.

Cienciano · 23-02-2021 5:09pm

Eoin wrote: »

What are the odds that this is just a silly RRP purely to make the massive "discount" on Amazon or elsewhere seem like a steal.

I did a search on other forums, seems that's the price. And everyone is having the same conversation we're having. Not a hope they'd hand over 4k for a microbrand with an ETA. Although a few have bought the cheaper €1200 ones and are happy with the finishing. Probably accounts with 10 posts about how great the watches are if you look harder.

Thirdfox · 23-02-2021 5:11pm

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/norqain-independence-20-limited-edition-first-with-kenissi-caliber-nn201-introducing - Hodinkee got into trouble pushing the brand and then becoming a seller of the brand shortly thereafter... They do have pedigree that microbrands can't compete against (but is that pedigree worth the extra 3-3.5k? That's for buyers to decide)

And I'm surprised by a price of 225 euro for a single ETA2824 unit - from my factory partner at bulk prices it's still higher than that (not much more mind).

unkel · 23-02-2021 5:45pm

Thirdfox wrote: »

And I'm surprised by a price of 225 euro for a single ETA2824 unit - from my factory partner at bulk prices it's still higher than that (not much more mind).

Your factory partner is being screwed. Unless of course there are some pretty bad import taxes on bringing in European luxury goods into China?

Thirdfox · 23-02-2021 5:47pm

Could be the Swiss don't like selling into China too - prefer to sell to EU partners vs HK/China mainland partners...

Wibbs · 27-02-2021 9:46pm

Not for me, but along the lines of Irishplayer's Seiko alarm watch, this Favre Leuba Sea Bird from the 70's is appealing.

Little known today but once a respected Swiss brand. It's at 50 quid now, I'd reckon sub 300 would get it. Though with import taxes on top. Feckin brexit. :mad: Though as their overseas EU market contracts I could see UK prices softening in the coming months and years.

46 Long · 01-03-2021 8:38pm

Today's bargain watch that I'm not buying was in my cart and checked out within a minute because I'm a weak man. €75 shipped from Creation watches.

Wibbs · 01-03-2021 9:25pm

Jaysis 46, you really can't go wrong for 75 quid.

When I panic buy it's almost entirely down to that third glass of cheeky red. In vino veritas.

banie01 · 04-03-2021 1:37pm

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Casio-Collection-Unisex-Adults-F-91W-1YER/dp/B000J34HN4

£7.50 for an f-91w is surely too good to be sniffed at!

Even ISIS think this is a steal!

Fitz II · 04-03-2021 1:44pm

banie01 wrote: »

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Casio-Collection-Unisex-Adults-F-91W-1YER/dp/B000J34HN4

£7.50 for an f-91w is surely too good to be sniffed at!

Even ISIS think this is a steal!

Splash out the extra on a W-800H bigger watch more readable.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Casio-Collection-W-800H-1AVES-Men-Watch/dp/B000VE5XL6/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=casio&qid=1614861851&s=watch&sr=1-7

unkel · 04-03-2021 3:35pm

banie01 wrote: »

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Casio-Collection-Unisex-Adults-F-91W-1YER/dp/B000J34HN4

£7.50 for an f-91w is surely too good to be sniffed at!

Even ISIS think this is a steal!

If you have prime, Amazon deducts the UK VAT and does not charge Irish VAT, so the grand total including shipping then would be £6.25

I'd nearly buy one because it's such good value, but truth is I wouldn't even want one if it were free

:pac:

Cienciano · 04-03-2021 4:39pm

Cheaper than changing a battery

Cyclingtourist · 04-03-2021 5:37pm

unkel wrote: »

If you have prime, Amazon deducts the UK VAT and does not charge Irish VAT, so the grand total including shipping then would be £6.25

I'd nearly buy one because it's such good value, but truth is I wouldn't even want one if it were free :pac:

Yeah, just bought one. €7.39 total. Never thought I'd buy a digital but it will make a handy present for a vegan I know.

fat bloke · 04-03-2021 6:15pm

Cyclingtourist wrote: »

Yeah, just bought one. €7.39 total. Never thought I'd buy a digital but it will make a handy present for a vegan I know.

LOL. Don't get me started on those analogue vegans!!! Grrr

Cyclingtourist · 04-03-2021 7:35pm

fat bloke wrote: »

LOL. Don't get me started on those analogue vegans!!! Grrr

It's more the resin strap they prefer.

46 Long · 04-03-2021 7:44pm

banie01 wrote: »

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Casio-Collection-Unisex-Adults-F-91W-1YER/dp/B000J34HN4

£7.50 for an f-91w is surely too good to be sniffed at!

Even ISIS think this is a steal!

Saw a guy on Etsy doing stealth mods on these and converting them into key-chain watches. €19.

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Cyclingtourist · 06-03-2021 7:46pm

It arrived. €7.39 Brand New with Tags, original box & papers.

893bet · 06-03-2021 10:41pm

So this lad posts his collection. Holy ****.

https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?490796-Been-a-while-so-time-for-an-updated-SOTC

He is selling one. A cool 70k.

https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?490777-FS-Rolex-6542-GMT-Master-with-Bakelite-bezel

Gonna resist lol

banie01 · 06-03-2021 10:48pm

893bet wrote: »

So this lad posts his collection. Holy ****.

https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?490796-Been-a-while-so-time-for-an-updated-SOTC

He is selling one. A cool 70k.

https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?490777-FS-Rolex-6542-GMT-Master-with-Bakelite-bezel

Gonna resist lol

Sweet ****ing Christ!

That is an eye watering amount of wealth in a box!
That is quite a collection, some absolutely beautiful pieces.
There's one of the elite, one of the lads that doesn't worry too much about waiting lists.

Cienciano · 06-03-2021 11:22pm

That's mental. There must be a load that he just never wears. There's a guy on reddit with a serious collection too, tourbillon001

This was a recent post. But I think sells on a lot, so smaller collection

banie01 · 06-03-2021 11:37pm

Cienciano wrote: »

That's mental. There must be a load that he just never wears. There's a guy on reddit with a serious collection too, tourbillon001

This was a recent post. But I think sells on a lot, so smaller collection

Scrolled through his posts.
I thought one ALS was special, then I saw the pantomatic and the slew of other high end pieces.

Granted he may be flipping, but there is a level of wealth on display there that would need a euromillions win to emulate.

It is lovely to see those pieces in the wild so to speak.

And how lovely is it that we are salivating over 6 figure pieces a couple of posts below a Casio at €7.50!
This thread is beautiful

Cienciano · 07-03-2021 12:19am

Him and his mate both had Patek-philippe perpetual calendar minute repeaters. You'll see a ferrari blurred in the background in some photos

https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/bpvfep/patek_repeaters_hanging_at_the_bar/

unkel · 07-03-2021 1:12am

893bet wrote: »

He is selling one. A cool 70k.

https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?490777-FS-Rolex-6542-GMT-Master-with-Bakelite-bezel

Gonna resist lol

Just wondering, but why on earth would someone pay €70k for that watch? It looks like sh1t and that stretched bracelet will be worse than uncomfortable to wear. The only reason I can think of is pure speculation? Or perhaps snobism? Look at me I am well beyond stage 6 and now into vintage or something?

Today's bargain watch that I'm not buying

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