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Roscommon GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    I wish Kevin all the best for the future. 2017 will be the highlight, beating Galway in salthill and drawing with Mayo in Croker are the highlights of his tenure for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Pique


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    In hindsight Ros would have been way better off losing gallantly by a point to Mayo in the 1st quarter final.

    I thought the opposite after the replay. Losing by a point (or winning, as it looked possible at the time) could have let us think we were as good as Mayo. The replay dispelled any notions of that. Although confidence would have been destroyed, at least the disparity was clear to all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    Roscommon caught Mayo cold in the opening 25 mins of that game. It was one way traffic for long periods after that. Credit to Roscommon though for dragging themselves back into it but for long periods it was difficult to see where scores for Roscommon were going to come from.

    McStay obviously thought he could leave a few of his bigger hitters in reserve for when things needed to move up a notch in 2nd half, but the depth of panel wouldnt allow this. By the time he introduced these usual starting 15 players (fintan cregg for example) the damage was done.

    It was poor judgement and inexperience on the sideline as Mayo came flying out of the blocks. In hindsight Ros would have been way better off losing gallantly by a point to Mayo in the 1st quarter final.

    Roscommon restricted Mayo to just four points in the second half. They levelled the game a minute into the second half, took the lead in the 49th and again in the 55th and held that lead until the 66th when Mayo equalized. Mayo taking lead for first time in second half in the 68th minute

    The selection for that replay was baffling to say the least handing a guy his debut who never played senior county football in his life in a key position. Basically dropping two of the three best players the first day. That replay highlighted Roscommons lack of conditioning under McStay which we have seen every year. They are completely incapable of performing when playing two championship games in a week. Replay to Galway in 2016 then 6 days later against Clare. That Mayo replay last year and Tyrone game in super 8s this year after match with Armagh the week earlier.

    Not sure losing to Mayo by a point last year would have helped them. They lost a close game they could have won 2011 Connacht final and didn't reach another final for 5 years. Lost an extremely close game to Mayo in 2014 and lost following year to Sligo.

    The loss to Mayo (and loss to Galway and Clare in 2016) highlighted the areas Roscommon needed to work hard to improve yet nothing was done and the same things happened this year again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    Beating Galway in Salthill last year was the best day I've ever had as a Roscommon supporter and it might be a long time before we eclipse that one, although I hope I'm wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Beating Galway in Salthill last year was the best day I've ever had as a Roscommon supporter and it might be a long time before we eclipse that one, although I hope I'm wrong.

    2010 was better. We were in Division 4!
    And 2001. Beat Mayo and Galway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    2010 was better. We were in Division 4!

    I'll always remember it as being imo, one of the best games Seanie Mc played in a Roscommon jersey, sligo's David Kelly hadn't room to breathe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭White lighting


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    2010 was better. We were in Division 4!
    And 2001. Beat Mayo and Galway

    We were D3 in 2010. And we didnt beat either Galway or Mayo so that doesnt rank anywhere near as good as 2017 or 2001 for me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    We were D3 in 2010. And we didnt beat either Galway or Mayo so that doesnt rank anywhere near as good as 2017 or 2001 for me

    we were relegated to Division 4
    Sligo beat both of them, we beat them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    2010 was better. We were in Division 4!
    And 2001. Beat Mayo and Galway

    Really? 2010 was great but let's be honest, we caught Sligo on the hop that day. They took us for granted after beating Galway and Mayo and had basically turned up to collect the cup. It was a one off against a county Roscommon would have no fear of, on neutral ground.

    I'd rate going to Salthill and giving a good Galway side a beating ahead of that everytime, no question.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭White lighting


    Good win's for Clann,Roscommon Gaels and Brigids in Section A over the weekend. A Must win game between Strokestown and Western Gaels next time out with the loser going out and dropping down next year.
    Elphin and Pearses could be a cracker too. The loser will miss out should St. Faithleach's beat Croans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    I see the win a home fundraiser website has gone live now.
    Hopefully it is a massive success ,money will go a long way to implementing the improvements that the CB agreed to with Connacht Council for the Hyde.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    FFS - it doesn't look good for the county if they can't sell tickets to win a house in Roscommon!
    That's embarrassing.
    The website doesn't appear to be live yet.
    https://m.facebook.com/winahouseindublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Addle wrote: »
    FFS - it doesn't look good for the county if they can't sell tickets to win a house in Roscommon!
    That's embarrassing.
    The website doesn't appear to be live yet.
    https://m.facebook.com/winahouseindublin

    Whats embarrassing about it ?

    If you knew the circumstances surrounding having that house you would know why it's in Dublin.
    They will sell several thousand more tickets for a house in Dublin than they could ever hope for in Roscommon.

    The website is live

    https://winahouseindublin.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Just that it adds credence to the belief of some that there's no value to living in Roscommon. Property value anyways I guess.
    It's obvious who the house is sponsored by-fair play-very generous.
    Only 15k tickets for sale.
    I've bought one already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    I have never seen Dublin having to raffle off a house for funds, cause they have a huge revenue stream from sponsors

    Best of luck to the sellers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Its simple economics, they will sell thousands more tickets for a home in Dublin therefore make a lot more money.

    I see nothing wrong with it tbh

    15k is probably about right, have to cap it otherwise the it's not as attractive to entrants. I doubt They will sell the full 15k but over 10k is a great boost to the coffers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    its the same as a couple of months lotto entry and with the amount of people desperate for their own house in Dublin, I can't see them having any trouble selling all the tickets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    better chance of winning the house than any lotto ticket


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Odds of winning a 4 + Bonus number in the Irish Lotto is 14,700/1, so the same odds give or take.

    That gets you €100-150 most days. For €2 a line.

    Or €425,000 for €100 a line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Pique


    KevRossi wrote:
    Or €425,000 for €100 a line.

    That's not how probabilities work.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭passremarkable


    How did they acquire the house?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    A generous benefactor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    One of the county's 2 main backers is in the building game and it's his development.

    I like the idea, it's about the only one I can think of where you're likely to sell more tickets to people outside of the county than within.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    One of the county's 2 main backers is in the building game and it's his development.

    I like the idea, it's about the only one I can think of where you're likely to sell more tickets to people outside of the county than within.

    The majority will be sold outside the county, I'd expect less than a third from Roscommon county.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Hearing rumours that Mick Bohan is the person the county board have earmarked for the senior job. Bohan is current manager of Dublin ladies team, was coach of Clare senior footballers and coach during Dublin under 21 side that won the 2010 and 12 All Ireland's.

    Seeing as most of the Roscommon squad are based in Dublin it would make financial sense at least to have them train in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    PISS OFF ROSCOMMON. YOU CAN'T HAVE HIM ! :mad: :mad: :mad:

    (No offence.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Hearing rumours that Mick Bohan is the person the county board have earmarked for the senior job. Bohan is current manager of Dublin ladies team, was coach of Clare senior footballers and coach during Dublin under 21 side that won the 2010 and 12 All Ireland's.

    Seeing as most of the Roscommon squad are based in Dublin it would make financial sense at least to have them train in Dublin.

    Roscommon will be training in Kiltoom no matter who the manager is .There is a 3 year agreement in place, this upcoming season is the 2nd year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    yabadabado wrote: »
    Roscommon will be training in Kiltoom no matter who the manager is .There is a 3 year agreement in place, this upcoming season is the 2nd year.


    The builder might pay them off!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    yabadabado wrote: »
    Roscommon will be training in Kiltoom no matter who the manager is .There is a 3 year agreement in place, this upcoming season is the 2nd year.
    That agreement probably carry's as much weight as McStay staying on until 2020 had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    That agreement probably carry's as much weight as McStay staying on until 2020 had.

    Maybe so but it makes sense to keep it on instead of constantly looking for places to train.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    yabadabado wrote: »
    Maybe so but it makes sense to keep it on instead of constantly looking for places to train.


    It was said recently every time Roscommon brought players down from Dublin for a training session it cost €1,000 for taxis alone. It would make more sense to hold a few sessions in Dublin and save money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    It was said recently every time Roscommon brought players down from Dublin for a training session it cost €1,000 for taxis alone. It would make more sense to hold a few sessions in Dublin and save money.

    They do hold some sessions up there for Dublin based lads.

    What money would they save?
    Still going to rent a place to train and players/staff who arent Dublin based will have to be transported up and back.

    I can't see much if any savings .

    Kiltoom is the best option imo and if Runabracken is built all teams will use that as a base.


  • Registered Users Posts: 814 ✭✭✭cuculainn


    yabadabado wrote: »

    Kiltoom is the best option imo and if Rathbrennan is built all teams will use that as a base.




    Where is this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    cuculainn wrote: »
    Where is this?

    A few miles outside Roscommon on the Oran side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    cuculainn wrote: »
    Where is this?

    It's Runabracken, don't know why I had Rathbrennan in my head.

    Its about 10 miles outside Roscommon Town ,on a side road off the N60.

    Mess of a project so far but hopefully it gets done to a good level.It was a fairly ambitious plan to start with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    There are only a handful of players currently based in Roscommon so bringing them to Dublin instead of transporting the majority of players down to Roscommon couple of times a week would likely save money.

    The fact that at least one high profile name has questioned his future at intercounty level to concentrate on his work and club career in Dublin probably played alot into deciding to go for a Dublin based manager.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    yabadabado wrote: »
    It's Runabracken, don't know why I had Rathbrennan in my head.

    Its about 10 miles outside Roscommon Town ,on a side road off the N60.

    Mess of a project so far but hopefully it gets done to a good level.It was a fairly ambitious plan to start with.
    They should sell it and look for land out in knockcroghery/lecarrow lecarrowor Roscommon town area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    They should sell it and look for land out in knockcroghery/lecarrow lecarrowor Roscommon town area.

    Too much money sent on it now.Between the initial cost and legal action ,can't see anyway they can sell it without making a massive loss.

    Be very difficult to find/buy the land needed in the areas you mentioned and They would also cost a fortune.
    Runabracken is about 45 acres ,guessing here but would there be any change out of 400k for that size ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭rn


    Dream county final in Roscommon. The up and coming clann team v the dominant St. Brigids team of the last 20 years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Donie Shine was star man yesterday. New manager would have to be looking at bringing him back into county fold one would think, still only 29 too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Doniekp


    rn wrote: »
    Dream county final in Roscommon. The up and coming clann team v the dominant St. Brigids team of the last 20 years.

    There will be no love lost between the two teams.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    rn wrote: »
    Dream county final in Roscommon. The up and coming clann team v the dominant St. Brigids team of the last 20 years.
    I doubt north Roscommon would ever dream about that final.


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭White lighting


    I doubt north Roscommon would ever dream about that final.

    Probably not. But until a team from North Roscommon get to a final its a good as its going to get


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    It's the clash of The Big Two as far as Roscommon club football goes right now. Probably won't stir up much excitement in the north of the county, but it's a pretty novel pairing insofar as they haven't contested a final since 1997.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    It's the clash of The Big Two as far as Roscommon club football goes right now. Probably won't stir up much excitement in the north of the county, but it's a pretty novel pairing insofar as they haven't contested a final since 1997.

    ushered in the decline of Clann and the ascendancy of Brigids


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    ushered in the decline of Clann and the ascendancy of Brigids

    Yeah, it was like a watershed moment, that day.

    I wonder is there is any hope of this being shown on TG4. Can't see it happening, with the Cork hurling final being on the same day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Yeah, it was like a watershed moment, that day.

    I wonder is there is any hope of this being shown on TG4. Can't see it happening, with the Cork hurling final being on the same day.
    Why not? As attractive a tie as will be on that day. Its only a matter of different starting times or at worse delayed transmission


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Anyone know how ticket sales for the house are going?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Addle wrote: »
    Anyone know how ticket sales for the house are going?

    over 3000 sold .


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 144 ✭✭blazermel


    Any word of a new manager yet?.. it's all so quiet on that front. Nominations closed awhile ago now and still no word.


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