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Roscommon GAA Discussion Thread

Syferus

There seems to be a few Rossies on the forum and even though the seniors are done for this year there's still plenty going on, not least the minors great run and the county championship likely to restart very soon.

So. A thread for it all!

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passremarkable

How did they acquire the house?

Pique

KevRossi wrote:

Or â‚¬425,000 for â‚¬100 a line.

That's not how probabilities work.

KevRossi

Odds of winning a 4 + Bonus number in the Irish Lotto is 14,700/1, so the same odds give or take.

That gets you €100-150 most days. For €2 a line.

Or €425,000 for €100 a line.

nice_guy80

better chance of winning the house than any lotto ticket

Addle

its the same as a couple of months lotto entry and with the amount of people desperate for their own house in Dublin, I can't see them having any trouble selling all the tickets.

yabadabado

Its simple economics, they will sell thousands more tickets for a home in Dublin therefore make a lot more money.

I see nothing wrong with it tbh

15k is probably about right, have to cap it otherwise the it's not as attractive to entrants. I doubt They will sell the full 15k but over 10k is a great boost to the coffers.

nice_guy80

I have never seen Dublin having to raffle off a house for funds, cause they have a huge revenue stream from sponsors

Best of luck to the sellers

Addle

Just that it adds credence to the belief of some that there's no value to living in Roscommon. Property value anyways I guess.
It's obvious who the house is sponsored by-fair play-very generous.
Only 15k tickets for sale.
I've bought one already.

yabadabado

Addle wrote: »

FFS - it doesn't look good for the county if they can't sell tickets to win a house in Roscommon!
That's embarrassing.
The website doesn't appear to be live yet.
https://m.facebook.com/winahouseindublin

Whats embarrassing about it ?

If you knew the circumstances surrounding having that house you would know why it's in Dublin.
They will sell several thousand more tickets for a house in Dublin than they could ever hope for in Roscommon.

The website is live

https://winahouseindublin.com/

Addle

FFS - it doesn't look good for the county if they can't sell tickets to win a house in Roscommon!
That's embarrassing.
The website doesn't appear to be live yet.
https://m.facebook.com/winahouseindublin

yabadabado

I see the win a home fundraiser website has gone live now.
Hopefully it is a massive success ,money will go a long way to implementing the improvements that the CB agreed to with Connacht Council for the Hyde.

White lighting

Good win's for Clann,Roscommon Gaels and Brigids in Section A over the weekend. A Must win game between Strokestown and Western Gaels next time out with the loser going out and dropping down next year.
Elphin and Pearses could be a cracker too. The loser will miss out should St. Faithleach's beat Croans

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

nice_guy80 wrote: »

2010 was better. We were in Division 4!
And 2001. Beat Mayo and Galway

Really? 2010 was great but let's be honest, we caught Sligo on the hop that day. They took us for granted after beating Galway and Mayo and had basically turned up to collect the cup. It was a one off against a county Roscommon would have no fear of, on neutral ground.

I'd rate going to Salthill and giving a good Galway side a beating ahead of that everytime, no question.

nice_guy80

White lighting wrote: »

We were D3 in 2010. And we didnt beat either Galway or Mayo so that doesnt rank anywhere near as good as 2017 or 2001 for me

we were relegated to Division 4
Sligo beat both of them, we beat them

White lighting

nice_guy80 wrote: »

2010 was better. We were in Division 4!
And 2001. Beat Mayo and Galway

We were D3 in 2010. And we didnt beat either Galway or Mayo so that doesnt rank anywhere near as good as 2017 or 2001 for me

selectamatic

nice_guy80 wrote: »

2010 was better. We were in Division 4!

I'll always remember it as being imo, one of the best games Seanie Mc played in a Roscommon jersey, sligo's David Kelly hadn't room to breathe.

nice_guy80

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

Beating Galway in Salthill last year was the best day I've ever had as a Roscommon supporter and it might be a long time before we eclipse that one, although I hope I'm wrong.

2010 was better. We were in Division 4!
And 2001. Beat Mayo and Galway

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Beating Galway in Salthill last year was the best day I've ever had as a Roscommon supporter and it might be a long time before we eclipse that one, although I hope I'm wrong.

rossie1977

Blanco100 wrote: »

Roscommon caught Mayo cold in the opening 25 mins of that game. It was one way traffic for long periods after that. Credit to Roscommon though for dragging themselves back into it but for long periods it was difficult to see where scores for Roscommon were going to come from.

McStay obviously thought he could leave a few of his bigger hitters in reserve for when things needed to move up a notch in 2nd half, but the depth of panel wouldnt allow this. By the time he introduced these usual starting 15 players (fintan cregg for example) the damage was done.

It was poor judgement and inexperience on the sideline as Mayo came flying out of the blocks. In hindsight Ros would have been way better off losing gallantly by a point to Mayo in the 1st quarter final.

Roscommon restricted Mayo to just four points in the second half. They levelled the game a minute into the second half, took the lead in the 49th and again in the 55th and held that lead until the 66th when Mayo equalized. Mayo taking lead for first time in second half in the 68th minute

The selection for that replay was baffling to say the least handing a guy his debut who never played senior county football in his life in a key position. Basically dropping two of the three best players the first day. That replay highlighted Roscommons lack of conditioning under McStay which we have seen every year. They are completely incapable of performing when playing two championship games in a week. Replay to Galway in 2016 then 6 days later against Clare. That Mayo replay last year and Tyrone game in super 8s this year after match with Armagh the week earlier.

Not sure losing to Mayo by a point last year would have helped them. They lost a close game they could have won 2011 Connacht final and didn't reach another final for 5 years. Lost an extremely close game to Mayo in 2014 and lost following year to Sligo.

The loss to Mayo (and loss to Galway and Clare in 2016) highlighted the areas Roscommon needed to work hard to improve yet nothing was done and the same things happened this year again.

Pique

Blanco100 wrote: »

In hindsight Ros would have been way better off losing gallantly by a point to Mayo in the 1st quarter final.

I thought the opposite after the replay. Losing by a point (or winning, as it looked possible at the time) could have let us think we were as good as Mayo. The replay dispelled any notions of that. Although confidence would have been destroyed, at least the disparity was clear to all.

twin_beacon

I wish Kevin all the best for the future. 2017 will be the highlight, beating Galway in salthill and drawing with Mayo in Croker are the highlights of his tenure for me.

Billgirlylegs

Blanco100 wrote: »

Roscommon caught Mayo cold in the opening 25 mins of that game. It was one way traffic for long periods after that. Credit to Roscommon though for dragging themselves back into it but for long periods it was difficult to see where scores for Roscommon were going to come from.

McStay obviously thought he could leave a few of his bigger hitters in reserve for when things needed to move up a notch in 2nd half, but the depth of panel wouldnt allow this. By the time he introduced these usual starting 15 players (fintan cregg for example) the damage was done.

It was poor judgement and inexperience on the sideline as Mayo came flying out of the blocks. In hindsight Ros would have been way better off losing gallantly by a point to Mayo in the 1st quarter final.

I don't think it was one way traffic, fairly even in the second half, with Mayo marginally better (if they had decent forwards)

Defensively and in midfield, they were hopeless. They were unlucky with the player turnover, absentees and injuries, but a simple marking strategy would have been better than what they were doing.
As far as I could see he tried to attack from the half back line. From what I saw in the Galway / Tyrone / Donegal / Dublin matches, the forwards were pretty good working with poor enough possession.
The scores obtained were pretty impressive for a team that was getting a hiding and unable to get possession in midfield.

I think Kevin McStay did as much as he could and wish him well.
Probably a more robust awkward style of defending would suit better.

Blanco100

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Yeah, should have put Mayo away that day.
the team selections for the replay were baffling

Roscommon caught Mayo cold in the opening 25 mins of that game. It was one way traffic for long periods after that. Credit to Roscommon though for dragging themselves back into it but for long periods it was difficult to see where scores for Roscommon were going to come from.

McStay obviously thought he could leave a few of his bigger hitters in reserve for when things needed to move up a notch in 2nd half, but the depth of panel wouldnt allow this. By the time he introduced these usual starting 15 players (fintan cregg for example) the damage was done.

It was poor judgement and inexperience on the sideline as Mayo came flying out of the blocks. In hindsight Ros would have been way better off losing gallantly by a point to Mayo in the 1st quarter final.

nice_guy80

Suckler wrote: »

That Mayo game was really the one that got away. We should have closed it out and won it. The pasting we took in the replay was a real set back. Definitely another Connacht title in there I thought as well.

Yeah, should have put Mayo away that day.
the team selections for the replay were baffling

Suckler

KevRossi wrote: »

We had some great days out with him. Salthill, draw in Croke Park last year, Thurles and Portlaoise this year as well as Div 2. Could have won at least one more Connacht title.

That Mayo game was really the one that got away. We should have closed it out and won it. The pasting we took in the replay was a real set back. Definitely another Connacht title in there I thought as well.

rossie1977

Don't think FOD had any interest in coming back last time and had to be persuaded back so I doubt he would want another go.

Will be interesting to see if any of the players McStay didn't pick on the panel like the Shines, O'Gara would return to the fold. Clearly McStay and the Dalys never saw eye to eye so maybe they get a proper run on team now.

Just heard someone say that McStay had 16 different players starting at number 6 in his time with Roscommon. That was another issue with his teams, you never knew who was the first choice goalkeeper, full back, centre half, midfield even after 3 years.

nice_guy80

Best of luck to Kevin
I think he was just a bit naieve on how the county game is now played.

Has his All Ireland from the club campaign with Brigids

KevRossi

I suppose Dineen would be favourite. Unless they look for someone outside the county.

Did Fergal O'Donnell burn many bridges when he left?

And is McStay going to jump to Mayo after waiting a few weeks.

We had some great days out with him. Salthill, draw in Croke Park last year, Thurles and Portlaoise this year as well as Div 2. Could have won at least one more Connacht title.

Anyway I wish him well, nice bloke to chat to.

rossie1977

I would imagine Nigel Dineen will be leading candidate for job. He wanted it 2 years ago before county board ratified McStay as sole manager.

He has similar philosophy regarding how the game should be played so not much will change on that front. Like McStay very naive when it comes to setting a team up defensively. But he knows most of the players given they played under him when he was Under 21 manager between 2012-14. He got Roscommon to two All-Ireland finals during those three years in charge only losing to Dublin twice, Dublin teams which featured eight players that either started or came on as sub on Sunday vs Tyrone.

He probably deserves a go at it anyway.

TheRiverman

Report on Six One news said he is finished with inter county management.