mark of the beast

4068ac1elhodqr · 12-06-2020 2:41pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Over the years there have been several religious style posters in these conspiracy forums obsessed with tracking technology. It's always the same theme. Look online and there is a sizable community of people into the same thing.

For the 2nd time, 'tracking' is not realative to the concept described in a book from 2,000yrs ago. Perhaps you have some weird obsession with tracking?

The focus is entirely upon 'transactions' (goods and services) by using both the (two-stage) hand and head (marking) to complete or verify these transactions. Not tracking.

Tracking may be some by-product, or secondary aspect, but there is no whiff of a mention of 'location services' ever mentioned. Perhaps it's now time you got to reading the basic jnr grade school outline of it, to prevent re-displaying your misinformation.

Dohnjoe · 12-06-2020 2:46pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

For the 2nd time, 'tracking' is not realative to the concept described in a book from 2,000yrs ago.

In your case, both are clearly tied. Looking up that book of revelations quote on boards brings up your name, multiple times. Unless that's some remarkable coincidence you care to explain?

King Mob · 12-06-2020 3:15pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

For i) the scan of hands with ii) the scan of heads as (two-stage, thus more secure) verification. We can simply look at some of id2020's active pilot schemes.

None of the pilot programs involve both the hand and the head.
Your preferred method does not involve either.

Your belief is very contradictory.
However at least we can stop pretending that it's not connected to your preferred fringe religious belief.

I think the fact you were so evasive and deceptive about it while also posting more open about it on the Christianity forum is very telling however

It will be strange if you pretend as if you have any credibility after this.

4068ac1elhodqr · 12-06-2020 3:23pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

In your case, both are clearly tied.

Might be some correlation, but again this would only be secondary, as has been explained to you twice.

Hence you should really begin with accuracy before attempting such novelty diversions.

Searching boards over decades, shows DohnJoe (and perhaps one other) as the primary, residental, anti-theorists who spites vile for any slim concept of religion. Indeed any new CT by any others, has the scent plastered over it in zero time.

The other poor CS 9/11 chap (a very tiresome theme, btw) seems to get you paged almost within the hour, to counter-post at every opportunity. Some hobby (or more than a hobby lol), fascinating to watch all the same.

4068ac1elhodqr · 12-06-2020 3:24pm

King Mob wrote: »

None of the pilot programs involve both the hand and the head.

Perhaps get the actual facts first on this program's details before your credibility vanishes altogether lol.

Dohnjoe · 12-06-2020 3:36pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Might be some correlation

Might?

Your views contain a paranoia of certain modern technology due to passages in the bible. On top of that there's a big and very transparent effort to mask that.

4068ac1elhodqr · 12-06-2020 3:49pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Might?

Well a new fully digital (transactional tool) using biometrics, would (by secondary default), likely leave a digital location signal, you do not have to be a genius to spot this.

However location services or even tracking has zero mention to the original topic.
Am simply correcting you to this 'tracking' fascination you have now wrongly developed.

"Transactional verification with 2-stage (or more) biometrics (inc perhaps synthetic embodiment technologies) for sale of goods, or services fulfilment". is not "Tracking", and is somewhat silly and off-topic.

You seem confused now, and I have other matters to attend to, suggest you get a nice cup of tea, or attempt the notion of catching some good outoor fresh air for a change. Tally ho old chap.

Dohnjoe · 12-06-2020 3:58pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Well a new fully digital (transactional tool) using biometrics, would (by secondary default), likely leave a digital location signal, you do not have to be a genius to spot this.

However location services or even tracking has zero mention to the original topic.
Am simply correcting you to this 'tracking' fascination you have now wrongly developed.

"Transactional verification with 2-stage (or more) biometrics (inc perhaps synthetic embodiment technologies) for sale of goods, or services fulfilment". is not "Tracking", and is somewhat silly and off-topic.

You seem confused now, and I have other matters to attend to, suggest you get a nice cup of tea, or attempt the notion of catching some good outoor fresh air for a change. Tally ho old chap.

Perhaps you can explain to us the link between this "mark of the beast" quote from the bible and modern technology?

Ipso · 12-06-2020 6:03pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

When you read the UFO lore information and Vedic lore and some Greek lore, it’s even wilder than that and our history all imagined?

Wait for it and grip onto your hat, Ipso.

One such story in the UFO community is the Earth according to an Alien person (grey) who survived the Roswell UFO crash revealed this when captured to a nurse, who then later revealed the story in her later life?

Story goes, All Humans live here are stuck on a prison planet and has been the case for millions of years. Different aliens from elsewhere through the ages (long past) have dumped the untouchables here to live in the physical world. No human or animal is from this earth we from different planets and the reason we all look different in color, shape, and features is we came from somewhere else.

Some races of aliens have dumped the bad and good all together on this planet. Criminals and geniuses and artists and so on you name it all send here when there no more purpose for them long ago. Everything that needs to be invented has already been achieved and done so by the most advanced aliens.
According to the Roswell alien they have been battling an ancient race to free humans from the prison planet for hundreds of thousands of years and the beat that other race in our solar system only a hundreds of years ago.

However according to the story there is a problem
The afterlife is actually a construct of an ancient civilization that ruled in our universe in the past and they used it to keep us the untouchables on the planet trapped through reincarnation. They’re no such thing as gods, us humans are actually gods, and can live without a body because of our soul. This ancient civilization created this prison system to trap us in a physical body forever.

Only time we can leave is when the everyone becomes enlightened to our true origins and past.The Pyramids and ancient sites are part of the construct to fool us into believing we have a past here and nowhere else.

Our memories are constantly wiped when we die and we are send back. The pyramids and other structures belong to this ancient totalitarian civilization and were build long ago to exist alongside the controlling prison tech system and give us the impression we belong here.
The religions of the earth were also created by this ancient race who created the prison system on earth. According to the Roswell alien they have not completely broke the prison system, they have not found all the tech sites in the solar system, but its weakened, and humans are becoming more enlightened in last few hundred years and made advancements in technology.

Definitely sounds legit, hearsay form an unproven alien life form is the best kind of hearsay.

King Mob · 12-06-2020 11:36pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Perhaps get the actual facts first on this program's details before your credibility vanishes altogether lol.

Why? Which ones involve scanning a mark on the hand and the forehead?

Also no comment on how your deceptiveness has been exposed?
Just ignoring that and hoping people won't notice?

4068ac1elhodqr · 13-06-2020 4:02am

King Mob wrote: »

Why? Which ones involve scanning a mark on the hand and the forehead?

Their MyPass program uses a primary process of finger (combined) with face scan to avail of products and services in place of traditional ID verification. Many major airpot hubs in the US have been similar for years (photo only, not data points), before allowing int'l arrivals.

This is the 1st time in 2,000yrs precise data collected from these specific two points (two-stage) points are in for precise verification to access products and services.

The MyPass scheme allows a mobile phone QRCode mark output based on these previous two stage scans, to shorten the entire procedure where such dual scanners are not available.

The tailored QR mark output on the users basic hand-held mobile phones, as print out, or even as transfer/stamp (not to mention wrist-worn iWatchs/smartwatches), would be paired with users pre-assigned UnID, and Azure cloud encryption for enhanced staged security.

This QR mark is a perfectly viable and trasferable cryptographic, for the new proven QuantumDotTatto mark (actually with extra additional data capacity), when this is to be deployed for mass usage.

Elsewhere Sweden (in it's effort to become fully cashless by 2023), it's national railways are already capable with the thousands there who have already implanted RFIDs digital mark inside their hands.

While subtle QDTs are different in build mechanics to RFID, it can perform the very same tasks using line of sight, rather than RF. However the conductive aspect would certainly allow for this upgrade potential (non-linear passive RF signatures).

King Mob · 13-06-2020 5:33am

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Their MyPass program uses a primary process of finger (combined) with face scan to avail of products and services in place of traditional ID verification. Many major airpot hubs in the US have been similar for years (photo only, not data points), before allowing int'l arrivals.

This is the 1st time in 2,000yrs precise data collected from these specific two points (two-stage) points are in for precise verification to access products and services.

Lol.

You seem to be having some issues which basic terms.

A finger is not a hand.
A face is not a forehead.

And this program doesn't actually use a mark.
It uses a fingerprint and a face scan.
It does not involve your quantum dot tattoos.

It also seems to use blockchain technology, something you previously insisted could only be used with a quantum dot tattoo.

You also seem to have cut out part of my post.

Since this thread has been moved from the christianity forum, it makes it very obvious what your beliefs are and how they contradict your denials and dodges from the other thread.

Do you have not comment on that?
Do you think that people should just pretend you weren't being dishonest and deceptive about your position?

Why do you feel you need to be so dishonest, deceptive and evasive about your actual beliefs?

Tiger20 · 13-06-2020 8:36am

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Or AppleFaceID (as currently being advertised) for Apple Pay in shops.

Later to be complimented by detailed iris scans, finger (TouchID), or even full right hand deep-vein* or structural scans.

There is already a patent pending for 'facial subepidermal imaging' (veins and blood vessels scanning) Likely due with the next release of the iPhone.

What was it Eve took a bite of? An Apple......the clues have been there all along!

4068ac1elhodqr · 13-06-2020 3:36pm

King Mob wrote: »

Lol.
You seem to be having some issues which basic terms.
Lol.

You seem to be twisting and wriggling with great gusto, e.g:

King Mob wrote: »

A finger is not a hand.

lol, what a looney statement, describe what content forms the object known as the hand? Does a hand not have fingers on it by default?

King Mob wrote: »

A face is not a forehead.

Again, does the head not consits of forehead, eyes, ears and so on?

King Mob wrote: »

And this program doesn't actually use a mark.

It will do in time (QDTs). Even without this added, back 2,000yrs ago might a modern fingerprint be considered to be a type of unique mark (no two are ever the same), same goes for FRS.

King Mob wrote: »

It uses a fingerprint and a face scan.

So it scans the users hand and head, before they can access goods and services, grand so.

King Mob wrote: »

It does not involve your quantum dot tattoos.

If BillyG has his way, 7bn will have the QDT within 18mths (immunity certificates). More likely it will be gradualised in between now and the id2020's 2030 target, and the focus areas will be the developing world to begin with.

The QDT is a very efficient shortcut, to storing all and every single biometric measurement (and all previous paper/plastic card IDs). This small simple marking, installed at time of vaccine (see patent) or else time of birth.

It will use 2-stage verification (a quick face scan is the least invasive) to correlate some of it's stored data. The additional UNiD pairing of all this data provides the additional (essential) level, pre-blockchain cloud encryption.

King Mob wrote: »

It also seems to use blockchain technology, something you previously insisted could only be used with a quantum dot tattoo.

The UnID pairing of biometrics, before encryption is more efficent using the QDT as unique identifer and data storage medium.

However another unique alphanumeric (shorter) string can be assigned (non-QDT). This would be much, much less effective, less unique, non-persistant (even on 5+year cycles), and would have to rely on user's unverified memory recall. MyPass often uses assigned phone numbers for it's homeless subjects, this can't easily be accessed/recalled if they're jacked up on JackDaniels.

King Mob wrote: »

Since this thread has been moved from the christianity forum

Not by me. Indeed the 'expert' folks there have zero interpretation so far to offer, on perhaps what is one of the most well known citations from their book. Very stange isn't it.

Then again their limited wider contextual and technological knowledge base might explain their silence. They are usually at ease to explain anything else.

My interpretation isn't 100%, is simply one (with evidence support) of many potential theoretical candidates.

E.g. The middle wastern black flag wavers, habit of headbanding their captive subjects with their (logo)marked branded headscarf upon foreheads could be another, 'marking'. Refusal to comply does not end well. There will likely be a larger resurgance of this group before long.

Perhaps though, the most likely is the range of modern biometric measurements and embodiments. This is supported by a wide range of evidence, product patents, programs, digital wallets legislation, massive roll-out viability to every earthly citizen, and realisation of emmerging technologies, the likes of which, all never seen before.

King Mob · 13-06-2020 4:11pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

You seem to be twisting and wriggling with great gusto, e.g:

lol, what a looney statement, describe what content forms the object known as the hand? Does a hand not have fingers on it by default?

Again, does the head not consits of forehead, eyes, ears and so on?

No, a face is not a forehead.
A finger is not a hand.

You are twisting things to suit your bizarre religious belief.
You are quite desperate to do so and it's making you very ridiculous.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

It will do in time (QDTs). Even without this added, back 2,000yrs ago might a modern fingerprint be considered to be a type of unique mark (no two are ever the same), same goes for FRS.

No, because there's no way for someone 2000 years ago to comment on modern things. This is because in the real world, there is no such thing as a supernatural prediction.

And again, neither are the quantum dot tattoos you believe is the mark of the beast, so your example fails on every level.
It's a very flimsy straw you're grasping at.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

So it scans the users hand and head, before they can access goods and services, grand so.

The QDT is a very efficient shortcut, to storing all and every single biometric measurement (and all previous paper/plastic card IDs). This small simple marking, installed at time of vaccine (see patent) or else time of birth.

But it's not a biometric measurement.
It's not birth to death.
It's not persistent.

You are also now claiming that they will be installed at birth. None of your sources claim this.
This is a claim that springs from your bizarre conspiratorial speculation.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Not by me. Indeed the 'expert' folks there have zero interpretation so far to offer, on perhaps what is one of the most well known citations from their book. Very stange isn't it.

Not really.
Your fringe religious belief isn't representative of most Christians.
It's an irrational conspiracy theory with no basis in reality.

However, the point I was making was that the posts you were making on the christian forum show that you believe in the mark of the beast.
At the same time, you were posting here, but then also being evasive about that belief.
You have now been exposed.

Why do you feel you have to be so dishonest about your belief?
How do you justify it to yourself?

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Then again their limited wider contextual and technological knowledge base might explain their silence. They are usually at ease to explain anything else.

My interpretation isn't 100%, is simply one (with evidence support) of many potential theoretical candidates.

E.g. The middle wastern black flag wavers, habit of headbanding their captive subjects with their (logo)marked branded headscarf upon foreheads could be another, 'marking'. Refusal to comply does not end well. There will likely be a larger resurgance of this group before long.

Perhaps though, the most likely is the range of modern biometric measurements and embodiments. This is supported by a wide range of evidence, product patents, programs, digital wallets legislation, massive roll-out viability to every earthly citizen, and realisation of emmerging technologies, the likes of which, all never seen before.

This is all ranting gibberish.

4068ac1elhodqr · 13-06-2020 4:52pm

King Mob wrote: »

No, a face is not a forehead.
A finger is not a hand.

This is indicative of all your further agenda based and personal biased wild ranting gibberish, not worth repeatng.

Repeat after me....
....finger is located on the hand
....the head is where the forehead is located.

Simples.

King Mob · 13-06-2020 6:24pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

This is indicative of all your further agenda based and personal biased wild ranting gibberish, not worth repeatng.

Repeat after me....
....finger is located on the hand
....the head is where the forehead is located.

Simples.

Yes. And these things don't mean that a finger is a hand or that the forehead is a face.
It doesn't change the fact that the ONLY example you have of them doing anything close to a scan of a mark in the hand and the forehead doesn't scan either of those things. Nor does it change the fact that that program doesn't use the quantum dot tattoos you believe is the mark of the beast.

It doesn't change the fact that qunatum dot tattoos don't match either the description you believe from the bible nor the criteria you claim that Bill Gate et al require.
It's not in the hand or forehead and it's not in two places. It's not in the finger or the face either.
It's not persistent. It's not birth to death. It's not biometric.
It's not a plot predicted in the bible.

It doesn't change the fact your belief that people from 2000 years ago magically saw these marks but somehow couldn't tell the difference between a finger and a hand and a mark and an invisible tattoo is a bit silly.
It's a silly and childish fantasy.

It doesn't change the fact that you've been dishonest and deceptive about your beliefs.

So why do you have to be so dishonest and deceptive about your belief?

4068ac1elhodqr · 13-06-2020 8:39pm

King Mob wrote: »

Yes. And these things don't mean that a finger is a hand or that the forehead is a face.

Yawn, and some say tomotoes, while others say tomatoes.

King Mob wrote: »

It doesn't change the fact that the ONLY example you have of them doing anything close to a scan of a mark in the hand and the forehead doesn't scan either of those things.

MyPass scans users dual finger and face before they can avail of product/services.

King Mob wrote: »

Nor does it change the fact that that program doesn't use the quantum dot tattoos

This is one of many id2020.org pilot schemes to discover best practice for thier DigitalID push. The entire id2020 group's core founders and partners include Gates (Gavi & Microsoft). Gates himself funded the QDT as the best mechanism to provide immunity certs, for the coming 7bn vaccines. Now, they may well discover a better technology (not mobile phone bluetooth obvs! lol), but as it stands, this is the currently the very best option.

King Mob wrote: »

It doesn't change the fact that qunatum dot tattoos don't match either the description you believe from the bible nor the criteria you claim that Bill Gate et al require.

The in-development technology fulfills all critera, when delivered at point of vaccine it could well bo directly into the hand, the exact location on the arm hasn't been established as yet, or specified in the patent.

It does not have to form part of the upper arm vaccine, but instead used as a seperate quicker procedure at the same time, or a second or two thereafter. The synthetic biometric device, actually contains all other x16 biometric measurements within it's singular data mark, clever stuff indeed, can even contain all paper and plastic cards records.

The bigger question now, is why you are so eager to deny such a product exists, why you slander many (if not all) religions, perhaps even the more far-fetched Islamic ones, at one's peril.

Again are being dishonest and deceptive about your beliefs?
Again, are you a raging mad Satanist, or from some another religious stance?

Or, have you read too much Dawkins, and after perhaps an array of unfortunate life events, decided it now your mission in angst... to poo-poo all and anthing that isn't tangeable but limited science, on a plate read out in front of you?

Dohnjoe · 13-06-2020 11:21pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

back 2,000yrs ago

Do you believe the bible prophesized things happening in the future, like tracking technology?

harrylittle · 13-06-2020 11:37pm

here is a bit more visual insight to the tattoo on the hand or forehead that is moveing society ever closer to the mark of the beast ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yePM-gQV-kg

harrylittle · 14-06-2020 12:02am

A good prediction in the past which could be happening now ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERPnSfKSMxA

harrylittle · 14-06-2020 12:07am

is this the future ? .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbA7sW53es4

Timberrrrrrrr · 14-06-2020 1:05am

harrylittle wrote: »

is this the future ? .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbA7sW53es4

No.

King Mob · 14-06-2020 1:47am

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Yawn, and some say tomotoes, while others say tomatoes.

And some say pizza is a vegetable because it has tomato on it.

Claiming that a finger is the same thing as a hand, is silly. It's a desperate twisting of things to get it to fit a silly belief.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

MyPass scans users dual finger and face before they can avail of product/services.

But it doesn't scan the hand or the forehead.
It doesn't scan a mark given to you.
It doesn't use quantum dot tattoos.

And I also assume that it doesn't result in people being denied services like you claim. You are a very dishonest person and you've twisted and spun every link and source you've provided, so it's a fair bet you are doing this again here.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

This is one of many id2020.org pilot schemes to discover best practice for thier DigitalID push.

Yes, and it's the only one that has anything close to scaning the hand and forehead. But it doesn't even do that.
It doesn't use what you believe is the mark of the beast.
It's a desperate filmsy link that makes you conspiracy theory look very silly and childish.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

The in-development technology fulfills all critera,

Except it doesn't fufill any of them.
It's not persistent. It's not birth to death. And it's not biometric.

You also claimed that there was plans for it to be implanted at birth. You failed to provide any evidence for that, so we can see it was a lie.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

The bigger question now, is why you are so eager to deny such a product exists,

I don't deny the product exists, i'm just pointing out how you are distorting, twisting and lying about things so this product can be forced to fit your beliefs.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

why you slander many (if not all) religions, perhaps even the more far-fetched Islamic ones, at one's peril.

Umm.. I haven't done this...

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Again are being dishonest and deceptive about your beliefs?

No.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Again, are you a raging mad Satanist, or from some another religious stance?

Lol. No. :rolleyes:

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Or, have you read too much Dawkins,

I have never read any Dawkins.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Yand after perhaps an array of unfortunate life events,

Lol. Please keep guessing. You're getting so close.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Y
decided it now your mission in angst... to poo-poo all and anthing that isn't tangeable but limited science, on a plate read out in front of you?

See, you are saying that I'm poo-pooing a supernatural belief.
But you've spend a better part of the other thread pretending that you conspiracy didn't have anything to do with the biblical prophesy.
We see now that this was a big old fib.
You were being dishonest.

I'm pretty sure the bible has some stuff to say about being dishonest.

So why do you have to be so dishonest and deceptive about your beliefs?
Do you think that it helps people be convinced of your fringe beliefs?
Do you think that people would (rightly) dismiss your beliefs out of hand if you were open about their religious and conspiratorial nature?

4068ac1elhodqr · 14-06-2020 3:29am

This king bob character sure has plenty of spare time, to wind up, divert and ignore the facts at hand.
Without being cruel, can only assume is immobilised and bound to a komputer 24/7.

Further more, twisting and misrepresentation of technical facts (the functions of the QDT have been way over-explained to him by now) are diversive.
His denial of simple concepts e.g. fingers aren't part of the hand... derailing attempts.

But the icing on the cake here is the super-keen athiest (actually potential raging sadist/satanist, or plain old pro-Islam, Christian hater),
is to assume any observation of ye olde Book of Revelations, or mention of BillyGates and his realted active projects via id2020.org...

...must all 'only' come from highly religious folks, lols again.

The plain fact is the oldest most documented and printed book in human history, is a very reasonable source to this very well known (if not universal) precise prediciton.

Factoring in current times and developments, 2020 perhaps offers for the 1st time in mankind's history the viability of hand/head data for sale of goods and services.
Also the actual human number of the 6's a possible complimentary factor, is also starting to show emmerging relevance.
Not even mentioning locust plagues, Damascus, global pandemics and so on.

Now if the four sanskrit books from the Vegas, or ancient Summerians, or scrolls, or Budda himself has predicted with such accuracy anything of similar value/worth and if Nostradamus come close, (vague quatrains) even Baba Venga also not comparable.

....Then any of these would certainly be of 'exact equal' interest. Equal interesting.

Problem is any other documents of ancient haven't anything nearly as interesting.
Maybe that's why they're not such good sellers?

King Mob · 14-06-2020 3:45am

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

This king bob character

Still getting that wrong. It's an M. Not a B.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Without being cruel, can only assume is immobilised and bound to a komputer 24/7.

Lol.
Is that because I'm a pensioner or because it's part of my tragic backstory.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

e.g. fingers aren't part of the hand... derailing attempts.

Never said that.
You are the one saying that a finger is a hand...

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

But the icing on the cake here is the super-keen athiest (actually potential raging sadist/satanist, or plain old pro-Islam, Christian hater),

Lol

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

is to assume any observation of ye olde Book of Revelations, or mention of BillyGates and his realted active projects via id2020.org...

...must all 'only' come from highly religious folks, lols again.

So you aren't christian?

You don't believe that the mark of the beast is these quantum dot tattoos?

Gosh, if only some people had asked you to clarify your stance and asked you to stop being evasive and dishonest.

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

The plain fact is the oldest most documented and printed book in human history, is a very reasonable source to this very well known (if not universal) precise prediciton.

But it's not precise. The one example you found that you believe matches is way off. It doesn't scan the hand and it doesn't scan the forehead. It doesn't scan a mark that is given to people.

Further, you've been claiming that quantum dot tattoos match this prediction. However quantum dot tattoos aren't part of the other program. And these tattoos don't match the description of the mark of the beast either. The tattoos won't be in the hand, they'd be in the arm. (Arms are not the same as hands btw.) And they aren't going to be in the forehead either. Also, they aren't visible marks.

On top of that, you keep ignoring the fact that your links say clearly what they are looking for, and quantum dot tattoos don't match those either.

In fact, your other example where they scan fingerprints and faces is a closer match to what they say they want as those things are persistent, life to death and biometric.

No, the bible didn't make an accurate prediction. You are twisting things to fit the prediction because of your religious belief.

And then on top of that, we know the bible didn't predict anything because there's no way it could have predicted anything. Supernatural predictions aren't real.
They are fantasy.

So not you've admited to believing that the bible predicted the mark of the beast, could you explain why you were being so dishonest about it.
Why did you try to hide you belief? Why did you continue to do so when everyone was calling you out on it?

4068ac1elhodqr · 14-06-2020 3:58am

King Mob wrote: »

But it's not precise.

Is as precise as anything even with a whiff of comparison from ancient texts.
Even the number aspect of 666 is unique, why not 123 or something.

Not only is the concept of hand & head verification already in use by thousands for buying goods and services, the emmerging (but also proven and patented) new technology will most likely the planned DigitalID system, delivered to approx 7bn within the coming years (2030 at latest), on the back of this current pandemic.

The above is even ignoring MS's additional layer new and 2019 patented technology that allows for an inbody processed blockchain cryptocurrency wallet, availing of the subjects own bodily energy to process the encryption stage. Sci-fi in realisation.

So, the assumtion isn't far off is it, you either a raging sadist/satanist, or plain old fashioned pro-Islam, Christian hater? Which is it?

King Mob · 14-06-2020 4:00am

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Is as precise as anything even with a whiff of comparison from ancient texts.

But it's not precise.
It's also impossible because supernatural predictions don't exist.

Again, why were you being dishonest about your beliefs?

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

So, the assumtion isn't far off is it, you either a raging sadist/satanist, or plain old fashioned pro-Islam, Christian hater? Which is it?

lol This is really pathetic. :rolleyes:

harrylittle · 14-06-2020 11:59am

life after the corona virus ....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE1nxLvqIag

Dohnjoe · 14-06-2020 12:28pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

The plain fact is the oldest most documented and printed book in human history, is a very reasonable source to this very well known (if not universal) precise prediciton.

You think the bible predicts the future?

Can you point out which part of this book is predicting what today?

oriel36 · 15-06-2020 9:12am

You guys are so sweet but 666 is from the same level of consideration as why the Egyptians chose the angle of inclination of the Great Pyramid.

I will give a clue for one who has wisdom -

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Chrismon_Sancti_Ambrosii.jpg/220px-Chrismon_Sancti_Ambrosii.jpg

Just put 432 on top and learn the language of this mathematical symbolism -

https://books.google.ie/books?id=5VOGAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA10&lpg#v=onepage&q&f=false

Wish I could do more but then again it is a lost language to many but loved by very few.

4068ac1elhodqr · 15-06-2020 2:27pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You think the bible predicts the future?

Show where any claim was made: as to the entire complete book itself, being a sports type almanac that has one main purpose: of predictions.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Can you point out which part of this book is predicting what today?

Can you not be so silly, perchance?

4068ac1elhodqr · 15-06-2020 2:29pm

oriel36 wrote: »

You guys are so sweet but 666 is from the same level of consideration as why the Egyptians chose the angle of inclination of the Great Pyramid.

I will give a clue for one who has wisdom -
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Chrismon_Sancti_Ambrosii.jpg/220px-Chrismon_Sancti_Ambrosii.jpg
Just put 432 on top and learn the language of this mathematical symbolism -
https://books.google.ie/books?id=5VOGAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA10&lpg#v=onepage&q&f=false
Wish I could do more but then again it is a lost language to many but loved by very few.

Sounds legit.

A nice simple minimal static jpg image, and link to an empty book page, can't argue with any of that.

oriel36 · 15-06-2020 2:34pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Sounds legit.

A nice simple minimal static jpg image, and link to an empty book page, can't argue with any of that.

You guys are so cute and your response is half-curios.

Try 432 + 234 or maybe 432/2 = 6*6*6

It is a work of art albeit written in a language that few can read unless you are a Christian.

4068ac1elhodqr · 15-06-2020 2:57pm

oriel36 wrote: »

You guys are so cute and your response, to be fair, is half-curios.

Try 432 + 234 or maybe 432/2 = 6*6*6

It is a work of art albeit written in a language that few can read unless you are a Christian.

[ My goodness, how did the mathematical symbolism of the Book of Revelation end up in a conspiracy forum !. Whoever transferred it to this forum mustn't have been a Christian, after all, the Johannine author pointedly laid down clues]

There are various interpretations, e.g. hand meaning actions, head (between the eyes) meaning thoughts. As it stands 666 remains valid as a unique, precise and human number.

This was transferred from where it actualy belongs to CT, because someone didn't like it in the holy forum, and further more, no one had offered a single view on the matter. Hear no evil, see no...

Anyway the sunshine now beckons, good luck with the 432-234 stuff.

lalababa · 15-06-2020 3:02pm

Ferajacka wrote: »

I personally cannot wait for the chip to be introduced, it'll make it easier to travel, pay for things and track all medical and revenue records.Now if this is the mark of the beast as "predicted" 2000 years ago I find this facinating that people of that time could have insight into such technologies that might come in, years later.

Grand here, not so good in China.

Dohnjoe · 15-06-2020 3:42pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Show where any claim was made: as to the entire complete book itself, being a sports type almanac that has one main purpose: of predictions.

Not a claim, it's a question

Do you personally believe there's a link between "mark of the beast" in the bible and digital ID stuff?

If not, then why are you filling a thread called "mark of the beast" with your views on digital stuff?

oriel36 · 15-06-2020 4:01pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

There are various interpretations, e.g. hand meaning actions, head (between the eyes) meaning thoughts. As it stands 666 remains valid as a unique, precise and human number.

This was transferred from where it actualy belongs to CT, because someone didn't like it in the holy forum, and further more, no one had offered a single view on the matter. Hear no evil, see no...

Anyway the sunshine now beckons, good luck with the 432-234 stuff.

You guys are fine as I stumbled across this thread and it is quaint watching non-Christians dither around with the clues. The Revelation of Chi-Rho has been with me for 30 years so it is not something you express but something you sink into as a Christian.

Be careful with the Chi-Rho symbol and it's circular structure as it surpasses even the geometry of the Great Pyramid in its significance, then again, these symbols exclude those who don't have a feel for them.

the purple tin · 15-06-2020 4:05pm

oriel36 wrote: »

You guys are fine as I stumbled across this thread and it is quaint watching non-Christians dither around with the clues. The Revelation of Chi-Rho has been with me for 30 years so it is not something you express but something you sink into as a Christian.

Be careful with the Chi-Rho symbol and it's circular structure as it surpasses even the geometry of the Great Pyramid in its significance, then again, these symbols exclude those who don't have a feel for them.

Do you know anything about the triangle and its signifigance. I was reading that it is very important in lots of ancient cultures. Christianity too- the trinity etc.

oriel36 · 15-06-2020 4:17pm

the purple tin wrote: »

Do you know anything about the triangle and its signifigance. I was reading that it is very important in lots of ancient cultures. Christianity too- the trinity etc.

Ah, the triangle -

https://www.goldennumber.net/triangles/

At another time in my life these things were so resonant and especially the 4 angles of quasi-periodic tiling 36°, 72°, 108° and 144° representing the equivalent of the DNA of those old monuments and symbols -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quasicrystal

https://www.pinterest.ch/dubath/penrose-tiling/

Every now and again I sent out clues including those ones 8 years ago but the geometric language doesn't resonate nor does it's relevance. Although dismaying sometimes, it is fine nor is it in my nature to push the works and symbolism beyond what is necessary, after all, the original structures are not mine even though I can give them a contemporary resonance. Why does 144 and 144,000 appear in two different ways within the Johannine work ?, what is the link between 153 and 666 ?, these things become clear with time just as a stain glass window lights up once the Sun's light shines through it.

I love what my ancestors did and how they did it and fair dues to those who still make the effort, that effort will always be worthwhile. If it is any help, remember the words of Galileo -

“You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself.”

Whoever moved the thread to a conspiracy forum should be ashamed of themselves and is no Christian.

pearcider · 15-06-2020 4:27pm

King Mob wrote: »

Lol.

You seem to be having some issues which basic terms.

A finger is not a hand.
A face is not a forehead.

And this program doesn't actually use a mark.
It uses a fingerprint and a face scan.
It does not involve your quantum dot tattoos.

It also seems to use blockchain technology, something you previously insisted could only be used with a quantum dot tattoo.

You also seem to have cut out part of my post.

Since this thread has been moved from the christianity forum, it makes it very obvious what your beliefs are and how they contradict your denials and dodges from the other thread.

Do you have no comment on that?
Do you think that people should just pretend you weren't being dishonest and deceptive about your position?

Why do you feel you need to be so dishonest, deceptive and evasive about your actual beliefs?

You seem to forget that John had a limited way to explain how the mark of the beast could work. He was seeing a vision of the future and had to interpret it with his Bronze Age world view. I think the book is eerie and a warning to all mankind that the end of days approach. There are numerous references in the bible to technology that has only appeared in the last 30 years. The mark of the beast could never be implemented until recently. A finger is part a hand and a forehead is part of the face. It’s disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

Dohnjoe · 15-06-2020 4:30pm

oriel36 wrote: »

[ My goodness, how did the mathematical symbolism of the Book of Revelation end up in a conspiracy forum !. Whoever transferred it to this forum mustn't have been a Christian, after all, the Johannine author pointedly laid down clues]

The notion that passages in a book are a "prophecy" or "foretell" or "predict" anything in the distant future is of course absurd. The conspiracy forum seems to be a sluice for anything far-fetched or fantastical - probably why it wound up here.

Timberrrrrrrr · 15-06-2020 4:30pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Not a claim, it's a question

Do you personally believe there's a link between "mark of the beast" in the bible and digital ID stuff?

If not, then why are you filling a thread called "mark of the beast" with your views on digital stuff?

And refusing to discuss "mark of the beast " stuff in the thread "digital ID's for everybody"

When asked there he refers to religion as "skygod stuff"

Very hypocritical imo.

King Mob · 15-06-2020 4:36pm

pearcider wrote: »

You seem to forget that John had a limited way to explain how the mark of the beast could work. He was seeing a vision of the future and had to interpret it with his Bronze Age world view. I

Well no, I'm not forgetting that.
John didn't see anything because there's no such thing as a supernatural prophesy.

People are simply making connections were none exist.
They did the same with barcodes.

oriel36 · 15-06-2020 4:39pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

The notion that passages in a book are a "prophecy" or "foretell" or "predict" anything in the distant future is of course absurd. The conspiracy forum seems to be a sluice for anything far-fetched or fantastical - probably why it wound up here.

To be a prophet is not an arbitrary dictator of future events but a very specific type of person -

" 'Prophets in the modern sense of the word have never existed
Jonah was no prophet in the modern sense for his prophecy of
Nineveh failed Every honest man is a Prophet he utters his
opinion both of private & public matters/Thus/If you go on So/the
result is So/He never says such a thing shall happen let you do
what you will. a Prophet is a Seer not an Arbitrary Dictator."

William Blake

It is interpretation and not speculative future conditions which makes a person a prophet - it may disappoint those who look at the Johannine work as something other than prophetic/poetic language that it actually is but it rewards those who take a more balanced and inspirational approach to the masterpiece.

pearcider · 15-06-2020 4:42pm

oriel36 wrote: »

Ah, the triangle -

https://www.goldennumber.net/triangles/

At another time in my life these things were so resonant and especially the 4 angles of quasi-periodic tiling 36°, 72°, 108° and 144° representing the equivalent of the DNA of those old monuments and symbols -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Quasicrystal

https://www.pinterest.ch/dubath/penrose-tiling/

Every now and again I sent out clues including those ones 8 years ago but the geometric language doesn't resonate nor does it's relevance. Although dismaying sometimes, it is fine nor is it in my nature to push the works and symbolism beyond what is necessary, after all, the original structures are not mine even though I can give them a contemporary resonance. Why does 144 and 144,000 appear in two different ways within the Johannine work ?, what is the link between 153 and 666 ?, these things become clear with time just as a stain glass window lights up once the Sun's light shines through it.

I love what my ancestors did and how they did it and fair dues to those who still make the effort, that effort will always be worthwhile. If it is any help, remember the words of Galileo -

“You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself.”

Whoever moved the thread to a conspiracy forum should be ashamed of themselves and is no Christian.

Unsurprisingly they moved it as the mods in here are just a part of the same big tech nexus that dominates discussion on the internet such as twitter and YouTube. They will routinely delete demonetise and shadow ban conservative and Christian views and promote left wing orthodoxy, atheistic and techno cratic world views and other new age religions and cults.

pearcider · 15-06-2020 4:47pm

King Mob wrote: »

Well no, I'm not forgetting that.
John didn't see anything because there's no such thing as a supernatural prophesy.

People are simply making connections were none exist.
They did the same with barcodes.

That’s just your opinion of the good book and the good men who wrote it. Your opinion that John just made it up means nothing to Christians like me. The Bible is full of truth for those who would read it with their eyes open and most importantly so is the battle between good and evil. You cannot deny that the mark of the beast would be impossible to implement in Bronze Age culture and indeed in any time period save the last ten years. The hour grows late.

King Mob · 15-06-2020 4:53pm

pearcider wrote: »

That’s just your opinion of the good book and the good men who wrote it.

No, it's a fact. There's no such thing as supernatural prophesies. The fact you really really want supernatural prophesies to be real doesn't make them so.

Everything you are claiming now, has been claimed before about things like barcodes.
Those people were wrong.

What's the difference between those claims and yours?

oriel36 · 15-06-2020 4:53pm

pearcider wrote: »

Unsurprisingly they moved it as the mods in here are just a part of the same big tech nexus that dominates discussion on the internet such as twitter and YouTube. They will routinely delete demonetise and shadow ban conservative and Christian views and promote left wing orthodoxy, atheistic and techno cratic world views and other new age religions and cults.

To be fair to the Johannine author using an expanded mathematical-symbolic language known to many societies in antiquity, the greatest failing of humanity is found in mediocrity or a lack of inspiration.

I don't fault people for unfamiliarity but rather those who misdirect the work whether they be Christian or not, after all, the author doesn't make it easy for the reader to discern the relentless tattoo of numbers and symbols.

I am glad people try their hand at resolving the use of numbers as they apply to the future but the structure is internal to the book itself and to the wider inspirational/spiritual language of Christ.

So, the Revelation of Chi-Rho -

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Chrismon_Sancti_Ambrosii.jpg/220px-Chrismon_Sancti_Ambrosii.jpg

Once again, the symbolism has been with me for 30 years including the contemporary use of geometry borrowed from the so-called Phi proportion or Divine proportion as it was once known.

pearcider · 15-06-2020 4:56pm

King Mob wrote: »

No, it's a fact. There's no such thing as supernatural prophesies. The fact you really really want supernatural prophesies to be real doesn't make them so.

Everything you are claiming now, has been claimed before about things like barcodes.
Those people were wrong.

What's the difference between those claims and yours?

That’s not a fact actually. That’s just what you think. You are not all knowing. My claim, that the mark of the beast technology and indeed world government is only possible quite recently in human history is a verifiable fact though.

mark of the beast

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