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beakerjoe · 03-07-2014 2:43pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I agree, can Aiken be sued?

By who? Im sure they will offer refunds.

carpothepunk · 03-07-2014 2:43pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

Yeah Ive heard that. Should never have sold tickets for the gigs in the first place without a license.

Its incredibly standard practice and tickets are sold subject to licence.

And no, Aiken are well and truly covered and cannot be sued.

Lithium93_ · 03-07-2014 2:47pm

Wouldn't be surprised if Garth pulled the dates altogether.

Independent.ie has learned from separate sources in Croke Park and in the music industry that the country superstar may pull out of all his Irish gigs, after Dublin City Council only gave a licence for three of the five concerts.

This ruling is in breach of the contract that Brooks signed with Aiken Promotions for five concerts.

A source told this website today: “I would expect that none of these concerts will now go ahead.”

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/exclusive-fears-grow-that-all-five-garth-brooks-gigs-will-be-cancelled-30404148.html

carpothepunk · 03-07-2014 2:48pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Wouldn't be surprised if Garth pulled the dates altogether.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/exclusive-fears-grow-that-all-five-garth-brooks-gigs-will-be-cancelled-30404148.html

That's a very flippant comment and it is more likely that the shows will all take place elsewhere rather than not at all. I would be really quite surprised if he pulled. There's probably 80k tickets on the tout/"unsold" market as is, anyway.

beakerjoe · 03-07-2014 2:51pm

carpothepunk wrote: »

Its incredibly standard practice and tickets are sold subject to licence.

And no, Aiken are well and truly covered and cannot be sued.

Ah it was always gonna be an odd case considering the agreement with the Croke Park Residents and GAA. They should have made sure everything was in place first surely

Diabhal Beag · 03-07-2014 2:52pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

You'd think that those who live around Croke Park would welcome the revenue the Garth Brooks shows instead of complaining.

Ah but hearing that clown for 5 nights in a row is worse than water-boarding terrorists. Also they didn't get free tix.

Penn · 03-07-2014 2:53pm

They'll just move the last two to somewhere else. Be outrage if he cancelled all the concerts though. Don't get me wrong, I think it'd be hilarious, but there'd be outrage over it.

carpothepunk · 03-07-2014 2:54pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

Ah it was always gonna be an odd case considering the agreement with the Croke Park Residents and GAA. They should have made sure everything was in place first surely

This case in particular, of course, but I mean in general, taking a booking whilst the venue is subject to licence is very standard stuff.

Angron · 03-07-2014 2:59pm

Someone on Facebook linked a thing saying they could do dates in the Aviva or something to compensate. Dunno if that's what they'll do though.

carpothepunk · 03-07-2014 3:02pm

The Aviva is 50k capacity, Croker 80k. 160k tickets sold for the two dates.

Add to that the fact MCD hold the licencing rights to music in the Aviva, and Aiken are their biggest competition.

JP Liz V1 · 03-07-2014 3:05pm

carpothepunk wrote: »

The Aviva is 50k capacity, Croker 80k. 160k tickets sold for the two dates.

Add to that the fact MCD hold the licencing rights to music in the Aviva, and Aiken are their biggest competition.

Yes 3 nights in Aviva being rumoured now

ankaragucu · 03-07-2014 3:06pm

I bet old Garth wishes he had friends in HIGH places.

D.Q · 03-07-2014 3:08pm

what an absolute farce. Not going to the concerts, not a fan of Garth Brooks, not someone who cares if people like him or whatever. Just as a mildly interested onlooker, the chaos and outrage on all sides is a sight to behold. Loving it.

cena · 03-07-2014 3:22pm

carpothepunk wrote: »

Boston is my favourite city in the world, would drop everything and move back tomorrow given the chance.

your from he states? I would move to new york tomorrow liven illega over there. I love it over there so much and been close to th family is better

Tinie · 03-07-2014 3:32pm

cena wrote: »

your from he states? I would move to new york tomorrow liven illega over there. I love it over there so much and been close to th family is better

Your living illegally in America?

The harsh reality is, unless you have immediate family living over there or have a passport yourself, your not getting into America to live permanently without at least a very good education or sought after skills.

cena · 03-07-2014 3:49pm

Tinie wrote: »

Your living illegally in America?

The harsh reality is, unless you have immediate family living over there or have a passport yourself, your not getting into America to live permanently without at least a very good education or sought after skills.

no i'm living in ireland.
Tell me about it. I have looked and looked into it. Just a petty my nan didn't apply for a u.s card. Her mother and all her sisters live over their since the 40s. She would have got one no problem

jay here would be able to enter and stay no problem with him being a doctor

CastorTroy · 03-07-2014 4:06pm

I've a ticket for Garth on Sunday. To be honest, if he cancelled I wouldn't be too worried about it.

Where I would see a problem would be for other bands watching. Imagine AC/DC thinking "we were planning on starting our next tour in Ireland but considering how bad they are at sorting things out, we won't bother".

Also what does it mean about the contract being for 5 concerts. Are we to assume before the announcement, he had signed a contract for 5 nights or that the announcement of each concert was made before any contracts were signed?

beakerjoe · 03-07-2014 4:09pm

cena wrote: »

no i'm living in ireland.
Tell me about it. I have looked and looked into it. Just a petty my nan didn't apply for a u.s card. Her mother and all her sisters live over their since the 40s. She would have got one no problem

jay here would be able to enter and stay no problem with him being a doctor

Are you not a Dr too??? Was convinced you said you were before......

....Did you not have a degree in ...

"Thuganomics"....? :pac:

Get it....Cena.... Thuganomics.....

Right Im off

gnfnrhead · 03-07-2014 9:51pm

Not a fan of Garth Brooks but Croke Park has been there since before any of the residents were even born. If you have a problem with what happens at a big venue like that, don't fucking buy a house there.

Diabhal Beag · 03-07-2014 10:29pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

Where I would see a problem would be for other bands watching. Imagine AC/DC thinking "we were planning on starting our next tour in Ireland but considering how bad they are at sorting things out, we won't bother".

There wouldn't be a lot of big bands that haven't played here before in all honesty, and even if they didn't they'd hardly do above 02 capacity for the mostpart. This is the first big stadium gig related issue I can remember in a very long time.

EdK · 03-07-2014 11:42pm

Garth Brooks is one of the biggest selling artists of all time and had a residency in Vegas he's not short of cash so I don't think it's greed in issuing an ultimatum ,he could have come back anywhere in the world but chose here it's obviously special to him after the 1997 show and he was hoping to recreate the magic,No love for the GAA at all and they are in the wrong but why should people worldwide suffer this late in the game ( 70,000 from 100 countries)

The residents are being a bit unreasonable I feel a lot of people will incur losses if this doesn't go ahead now it will be terrible for the economy and the reputation (poor enough as it is) of the country.

I suggest the parties involved stop being children do a deal then get back in court afterwards to sort out a proper iron clad deal for future Croke Park gigs to everyone's satisfaction.

Let people who have been looking forward to this enjoy it I honestly believe Garth is disappointed for his fans he's the biggest selling artist in US history at 123 million albums (even if he had a dollar for every one)he's not short of a few quid

Sort it out before we are more of a joke worldwide

beakerjoe · 03-07-2014 11:45pm

Bottom line is there was an agreement in place, the GAA and Aiken thought "ah sure it be grand, no one will mind if we try break that agreement", they are at fault. The fans took a risk at buying the tickets, they shouldn't have went on sale in the first place.

Just thank god its only GB and not RATM

EdK · 03-07-2014 11:53pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

Bottom line is there was an agreement in place, the GAA and Aiken thought "ah sure it be grand, no one will mind if we try break that agreement", they are at fault. The fans took a risk at buying the tickets, they shouldn't have went on sale in the first place.

Just thank god its only GB and not RATM

Don't disagree at all but these tickets went on sale in early February so it's been 5 months and I just think it's terrible for people that it all falls apart 3 weeks before the shows where people have spent money which can't be recovered

Furious-Red · 04-07-2014 12:20am

Brooks has said its either all 5 gigs or none at all.

Ive a ticket for the Monday gig so fingers crossed

Lithium93_ · 04-07-2014 12:21am

I get the funny feeling it'll be the latter option.

EdK · 04-07-2014 12:25am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I get the funny feeling it'll be the latter option.

Surely not it's staggering money to be lost €50 million or so

Lithium93_ · 04-07-2014 12:28am

If only One Direction had their 3 gigs in Thomond Park, then all these shenanigans could've been avoided & Garth could have his 5 nights in Croke Park.

Lithium93_ · 04-07-2014 12:31am

EdK wrote: »

Surely not it's staggering money to be lost €50 million or so

That's what i don't get, the residents near Croke Park put up with GAA fans from May through September without a hassle, so surely they could handle Garth Brooks for 5 nights, and €50 million is a truckload of cash, and the local economy would benefit greatly from said €50 million.

EdK · 04-07-2014 12:34am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

That's what i don't get, the residents near Croke Park put up with GAA fans from May through September without a hassle, so surely they could handle Garth Brooks for 5 nights, and €50 million is a truckload of cash, and the local economy would benefit greatly from said €50 million.

Guess they can't argue with GAA matches happening in the stadium as they knew that when they moved in but frequent concerts are a much newer phenomenon

carpothepunk · 04-07-2014 11:49am

IF TWO MORE GIIIIIGS NEVER COME

Garseys · 04-07-2014 12:05pm

carpothepunk wrote: »

IF TWO MORE GIIIIIGS NEVER COME

I'll just cancel the FIIIIIIVE of them.

Diabhal Beag · 05-07-2014 12:01am

You'll probs read this after it was on but Independence Day is the second best film ever. Second Jurassic Park is number 1.

Angron · 05-07-2014 12:01am

Jurassic park was fecking magnificent.

Diabhal Beag · 05-07-2014 12:05am

Don't get me wrong, loved the first one, but the second one had Patrick Stewart in his only good role.

Angron · 05-07-2014 12:07am

Ah I enjoyed the second one well enough. I remember bringing it in to show my classmates (I think it was in second class) and the teacher kinda freaked at the point where the compsognathus attack the man and the water runs red with blood :pac:

CastorTroy · 05-07-2014 12:10am

Now I'm confused. Patrick Stewart was in The Lost World? You sure? I don't remember him in it.

And the first Jurassic Park is one of my faves

Angron · 05-07-2014 12:11am

Perhaps you're thinking of Pete Postlethwaite, who was Roland Tembo the big game hunter?

Diabhal Beag · 05-07-2014 12:16am

My mind has been blown but it's apparently a common misconception (AKA make me feel less thick).

Angron · 05-07-2014 12:17am

Yeah, when you said it first, it didn't click for a while that it wasn't Stuart.

Diabhal Beag · 05-07-2014 12:20am

He was in In the Name of the Father but didnae recognise him. Sadly he died in 2011.

Angron · 05-07-2014 12:22am

Yeah, cancer

I think the other thing I remember him from best is James and The Giant Peach, narrator and the guy that gave James the crocodile tongues.

EdK · 05-07-2014 12:24am

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, loved the first one, but the second one had Patrick Stewart in his only good role.

Jean Luck Picard and Professor Xavier respectfully disagree ha

dirkmeister · 05-07-2014 12:25am

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

He was in In the Name of the Father but didnae recognise him. Sadly he died in 2011.

Also, he played Mr Kobaishi(spelling?) in The Usual Suspects.

EdK · 05-07-2014 12:27am

dirkmeister wrote: »

Also, he played Mr Kobaishi(spelling?) in The Usual Suspects.

Oddly I always remember him as the florist gangster in The Town

Diabhal Beag · 05-07-2014 12:29am

EdK wrote: »

Jean Luck Picard and Professor Xavier respectfully disagree ha

Aye but didnae watch a minute of Star Trek in my life and X-Men is comic book bleh

dirkmeister wrote: »

Also, he played Mr Kobaishi(spelling?) in The Usual Suspects.

Now I feel thick.

dirkmeister · 05-07-2014 12:34am

EdK wrote: »

Oddly I always remember him as the florist gangster in The Town

Ah he'll always be Guiseppe to me.

This is a very powerful scene.

Lithium93_ · 05-07-2014 1:00am

Neymar's World Cup is over after fracturing vertebrae vs. Colombia

dirkmeister · 05-07-2014 1:03am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Neymar's World Cup is over after fracturing vertebrae vs. Colombia

Ze Germans will fancy their chances big time now.

Awful for Neymar, but wait for the "jokes" about it being bound to happen since he was carrying the country.

Tinie · 05-07-2014 1:40am

The Thiago Silva loss is 100x worse than Neymar being out. Can only see germany winning.

Lithium93_ · 05-07-2014 1:44am

Ze Germans will be delighted that's for sure.

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