Weekends Boxing 22/8 (Whyte v Povetkin, Taylor v Persoon, Alvarez v Smith Jr etc)

wrestlemaniac · 22-08-2020 10:35pm

normanoffside wrote: »

Glad to see the judges aren't listening to the Sky commentators. Katie won 7 rounds fairly clearly IMO.

I'd comfortably give her 4 rounds clean but nowhere near 7

White lighting · 22-08-2020 10:35pm

CiarraiAbu2 wrote: »

I had no sound, what was the score given by the judges

98-93 96-94 96-94

taytobreath · 22-08-2020 10:35pm

The refs look for quality I guess more so than work rate

Tandey · 22-08-2020 10:35pm

theballz wrote: »

As much as I hate to say it, Taylor lost that fight.

Them two judges need there heads checked

No she actually won.

16 from 16.

generalgerry · 22-08-2020 10:35pm

I've said it many times but there are seriously issues with the judging or the point system of the sport if professional judges are so widely apart in their scoring.

I tell you one thing though, if you ever need a hole dug to Australia then Persoon is your woman. She is absolutely relentless. You would have to think that she would be suited to one of the more stamina based sports like rowing or something.

walshb · 22-08-2020 10:36pm

fullstop wrote: »

You’re very defensive. You were having a go at some lad a while ago for not wanting her to win. Anyone without blinkers on could see she didn’t win that by 5 rounds FFS

Defensive?

No, I prefer some actual analysis, that is all..

Anyway, you seem not to have it..

All_in_Flynn · 22-08-2020 10:36pm

I had Taylor by 3 or 4 personally. Persoon was hitting shoulders and arms a lot. Some engine on her and she left everything in there but she was outboxed I think.

accensi0n · 22-08-2020 10:36pm

I'm confused, don't know much about boxing but watched most of that fight and your one smashed Katie... no?

22-08-2020 10:36pm

ebbsy wrote: »

I had it a draw.

Guess they had to protect the golden goose.

If we seen Katie do to Persoon what Persoon did to Katie there. Katie would have won by a massive margin.

squinn2912 · 22-08-2020 10:36pm

People giving it to Taylor easy were very quiet during the fight. Gimme a break

ctrl-alt-delete · 22-08-2020 10:36pm

Great respect from Persoon there.

lawrencesummers · 22-08-2020 10:36pm

If the bruises And swelling tell a story Katie won well!

Persoon won’t be on any catwalk tommorow!

taytobreath · 22-08-2020 10:36pm

Persons face is way more damaged than katies

walshb · 22-08-2020 10:37pm

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

Great respect from Persoon there.

Yeh..

Getting g in the running away dig at Katie..

ikeano29 · 22-08-2020 10:37pm

theballz wrote: »

As much as I hate to say it, Taylor lost that fight.

Them two judges need there heads checked

Even Persoon knows she lost it.

All_in_Flynn · 22-08-2020 10:38pm

squinn2912 wrote: »

People giving it to Taylor easy were very quiet during the fight. Gimme a break

I didn’t post once during the fight cause I was watching it. Does that invalidate my opinion?

walshb · 22-08-2020 10:38pm

accensi0n wrote: »

I'm confused, don't know much about boxing but watched most of that fight and your one smashed Katie... no?

Your first few words ring true, so!!!😅

Coybig_ · 22-08-2020 10:38pm

accensi0n wrote: »

I'm confused, don't know much about boxing but watched most of that fight and your one smashed Katie... no?

What did she actually land? She barely landed a clean shot. She just threw so many punches that a small few of them leaked through. When Katie threw, she usually connected.

ctrl-alt-delete · 22-08-2020 10:38pm

walshb wrote: »

Yeh..

Getting g in the running away dig at Katie..

Not sure it was too much of a dig, she said something along the lines of if you don't catch and hurt her she is gone too.

earthwormjack · 22-08-2020 10:38pm

accensi0n wrote: »

I'm confused, don't know much about boxing but watched most of that fight and your one smashed Katie... no?

Not really. A lot of pressure but not much clean work landing from persoon. Katie had much more quality punches land.

megadodge · 22-08-2020 10:38pm

I had Katie winning 7-3, maybe 6-4.

She definitely won. The betting exchanges had her odds on at the end.

Persoon is incredibly tough. Nothing but respect for her. Her desire is incredible.

Tandey · 22-08-2020 10:39pm

accensi0n wrote: »

I'm confused, don't know much about boxing but watched most of that fight and your one smashed Katie... no?

You don’t get points for the volume of punches you throw or for hitting arms.

fullstop · 22-08-2020 10:40pm

walshb wrote: »

Defensive?

No, I prefer some actual analysis, that is all..

Anyway, you seem not to have it..

There you go again. It’s funny that half the Sky panel had Persoon winning but you’d know a lot more than them I’m sure. Fight coulda even been called either way. Telling analysis from Joshua.

UrbanFret · 22-08-2020 10:40pm

walshb wrote: »

You are slating the judge based off a couple rds here..

Can you give the rounds where he was so off?

take you pick from the 4th round on.

wotzgoingon · 22-08-2020 10:42pm

Person was wrestling and punching while holding Katie down. Happened too often in the fight.

Well done Katie.

22-08-2020 10:43pm

Persoon probably made a nice sum of money too.

Feenix · 22-08-2020 10:43pm

Shes not going to lose on points in New York & shes definitely not going to lose on points in Eddie Hearns back garden. Persoon is unlucky of course but she probably knew she had to stop her before letting it go to the judges.

walshb · 22-08-2020 10:44pm

fullstop wrote: »

There you go again. It’s funny that half the Sky panel had Persoon winning but you’d know a lot more than them I’m sure. Fight coulda even been called either way. Telling analysis from Joshua.

Have you got a card or not?

Sky commentators?...😅

7-3 Taylor me.

lawrencesummers · 22-08-2020 10:44pm

Not bad from Katie. That time she spent boxing with Team GB has really paid off.

corny · 22-08-2020 10:45pm

Womens boxing has a long way to go.

The Belgian girl was game but astonishingly crude and ineffective.

Taylor clearly has some ability but i'd be disappointed that for long spells she didn't know how to deal with her opponent.

theballz · 22-08-2020 10:45pm

Anyone who thinks Katie won that fight doesn’t know boxing.

Brock Turnpike · 22-08-2020 10:45pm

I had it 5-5 myself. Can understand the 96-94 scores but the 98-93 I just didn't see.

walshb · 22-08-2020 10:46pm

UrbanFret wrote: »

take you pick from the 4th round on.

Yes. I will..

Katie won several rds from 4-10

Kristopherus · 22-08-2020 10:46pm

Whoooo Hoooo !!!! Great win for Taylor. That first judge must have fallen asleep with that wide margin he gave.IMO I thought Persoon shaded it.

walshb · 22-08-2020 10:46pm

theballz wrote: »

Anyone who thinks Katie won that fight doesn’t know boxing.

Why?

megadodge · 22-08-2020 10:46pm

I was watching it on a dodgy stream with foreign commentary, which is perfect, as you don't have the influence of the commentators' opinion.

Did Sky commentators have Persoon in front? Because I can't see how she could have won it. Massive workrate, but very few punches landed cleanly. Katie's work cleaner and more eye-catching. Her defense was also vastly superior.

ikeano29 · 22-08-2020 10:47pm

Now, need Whyte to win inside the distance for a tasty double. Had katie on points

REBELSAFC · 22-08-2020 10:47pm

I had Katie by 3. She started well and won the first two comfortably enough then went 3-1 up. It would have taken a huge improvement from Persoon to win the last 6 rounds by clear three rounds and while she came back into it a bit, she didn't win any rounds that clearly.

walshb · 22-08-2020 10:47pm

megadodge wrote: »

I was watching it on a dodgy stream with foreign commentary, which is perfect, as you don't have the influence of the commentators' opinion.

Did Sky commentators have Persoon in front? Because I can't see how she could have won it. Massive workrate, but very few punches landed cleanly. Katie's work cleaner and more eye-catching. Her defense was also vastly superior.

You know nothing about boxing...

Even if this analysis is spot on..😅

Coybig_ · 22-08-2020 10:48pm

theballz wrote: »

Anyone who thinks Katie won that fight doesn’t know boxing.

That's possibly the most embarrassing take yet.

Last I checked boxing scoring was about technique and actually landing clean shots.

Persoon swung her arms like a windmill and walked forward like the Terminator, but all she hit was arms and air. Quality, not quantity.

fullstop · 22-08-2020 10:48pm

walshb wrote: »

Have you got a card or not?

Sky commentators?...ðŸ˜…

7-3 Taylor me.

Why the **** would I have a card? I’m not sitting ringside scoring the fight. Show us your card there.

Ah yeah, sure I’m sure walshb from boards knows more about boxing than Anthony Joshua.

walshb · 22-08-2020 10:49pm

fullstop wrote: »

Why the **** would I have a card? I’m not sitting ringside scoring the fight. Show us your card there.

Ah yeah, sure I’m sure walshb from boards knows more about boxing than Anthony Joshua.

Keep your cacks on..

Sweet Caroline kicking off. It’s Saturday night..

Let the hair down..

PM your card later!!

selectamatic · 22-08-2020 10:50pm

Thought Taylor won quite clearly in the end.

Big big performance out of her in rd 9 and 10 to seal the win.

I felt the ref was quite poor throughout.

Allowed too much hitting while holding the back of the head and definitely could have called a low blow or two all perpetrated by persoon. He also managed to allow persoon to jump straight back up off the canvas in rd10 and start firing back without dusting off her gloves. Minor enough but definitely noticeable.

fullstop · 22-08-2020 10:50pm

walshb wrote: »

Keep your cacks on..

Sweet Caroline kicking off. It’s Saturday night..

Let the hair down..

PM your card later!!

Sure stick it up here now. I’m sure you have it at the ready seeing as you’ve spent the last 20 mins asking people for theirs :rolleyes:

ShaunC · 22-08-2020 10:50pm

The judges obviously prefer quality to quantity, I don't know much about boxing but Persoon looked like she had it won after 8 rounds. The 10th was edge of the seat stuff.
Would like to see punches landed v punches thrown.

taytobreath · 22-08-2020 10:51pm

The neighbors must be complainin

generalgerry · 22-08-2020 10:52pm

Haha, I'd say Frank Warren is at home putting his foot through the TV.

Amazing job by Eddie Hearn.

kingtiger · 22-08-2020 10:53pm

theballz wrote: »

Anyone who thinks Katie won that fight doesn’t know boxing.

nonsense, even looking at Persoon's face after the fight she looked like the bird in the cellar from the evil dead

walshb · 22-08-2020 10:53pm

fullstop wrote: »

Sure stick it up here now. I’m sure you have it at the ready seeing as you’ve spent the last 20 mins asking people for theirs :rolleyes:

Only asking the folks who can’t accept the verdict to explain why..

Anyway, Whyte up now. Taylor fight over and done.

7-3 Katie..

I have Persoon 3 rds..

Katie far cleaner, and landed the most shots in 7 rds..

UrbanFret · 22-08-2020 10:54pm

walshb wrote: »

Yes. I will..

Katie won several rds from 4-10

I remember way back a judge scoring the Leonard - Hagler bout 118–110.
History is littered with lopsided judging.

7-3 ? not for me

Katie won 2 rounds at best from the 4th on 5-5

Weekends Boxing 22/8 (Whyte v Povetkin, Taylor v Persoon, Alvarez v Smith Jr etc)

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