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  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    Are you all ready for your "covid" passports? - http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20200831-coronavirus-will-you-need-an-immunity-passport-to-travel

    > Consideration of immunity passports in the UK is still in its early stages, with the British government examining submissions from other facial recognition and identity firms, such as Yoti, Nomidio and Berlin-based IDnow, as well as a range of medical experts and academics on the viability of an immunity-based scheme.

    Nothing strange to see here. No sir.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,521 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    Are you all ready for your "covid" passports? - http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20200831-coronavirus-will-you-need-an-immunity-passport-to-travel

    > Consideration of immunity passports in the UK is still in its early stages, with the British government examining submissions from other facial recognition and identity firms, such as Yoti, Nomidio and Berlin-based IDnow, as well as a range of medical experts and academics on the viability of an immunity-based scheme.

    Nothing strange to see here. No sir.

    Whats wrong with this exactly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    The Nal wrote: »
    Whats wrong with this exactly?
    Very good question, has there been any public consultation or debate as to the (wrongs or rights) of introduction of such Digital IDs?

    Didn't the BBC (where this article is) do many a documentary on the terrible plight of the Chinese Uighurs and there need to QRCode themselves when accessing services and purchasing products, even simple kitchen cutlery?

    Didn't Google (motto:do no evil) also call Clearviews AI (your face will be on this) technology, a bit 'too evil' even for them, citing privacy rights?

    Didn't SF (inc Silicon Valley) City also ban outright the use of FaceRegCameras, claiming privacy concerns.

    Yet here we are, the replacement of paper/plastic ID's coupled wtih scanners. Of course the next natural progression of this, will be to remove the limitation factor of having to lug around a charged up smartphone at all.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    The Nal wrote: »
    Whats wrong with this exactly?

    We see how eager governments and businesses are to have something like. Want to come into this shop? No problem, let's just take your covid passport, "track and trace" you ( :) ) and oh yes, we'll fo facial recognition too. We must know where you are at all times...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    We see how eager governments and businesses are to have something like. Want to come into this shop? No problem, let's just take your covid passport, "track and trace" you ( :) ) and oh yes, we'll fo facial recognition too. We must know where you are at all times...

    But a poster on another thread wrote that a lot of countries singed up for those passports, but decided in the end not to go down that road. I haven't been able to find out what countries pulled out. Does anyone know?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    While this is one of many interesting pilot schemes, the early standard form of unified and global Digital IDs (under the covid theme), will emmerge next year, at every int'l airport.

    This larger scheme will encompass many of these smaller innovations (pilot schemes), and use elements of their technology if those scheme factors show they are useful for enhancing tracking, tracing.

    It's called the 'CommonPass framework' (owned by Rockerfellers {same as ID2020.org}), and backed by 'The Great Reset' folks i.e. WEF & Davos 2021.

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    Your lab results, your travel {or available paper/card} ID (and likely biometric values as above {stored as UnID value}) will form a HL7FLIR pair (also subject to further pairing).
    This will then use Azure Cloud Blockchain (as per id2020) Complaince Engine central db.

    This means you will have either a green light, or a red light if you want to travel (no reason why this could not be used outside of travel too).
    At the point of manditory global vaccine saturation, anyone without one, will be a 'red light' (will not travel or enter).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Seperate from the huge id2020 group, and it's associates (Gates, MS^, Gavi, Rockerfeller and now the WEF: aka The 2021 Great Reset).

    Amazon (since yesterday) have announced a new live ID system rollout in it's stores, in their push towards their own transactional ID verification, using scans of the hand (n.b. ^AWS is a direct competitor of MSAzure{above}).
    Amazon is rolling out a new contactless technology that enables consumers to make payments and carry out other in-store transactions using the palm of their hand. The internet giant has big plans for this technology, including offering it to third parties.

    'ID everywhere' : However, Amazon One wasn’t designed just to verify users for payments in Amazon’s stores. The company said it wants people to use their palm to facilitate “everyday activities” like presenting loyalty cards and verifying their identity before entering sports stadiums, offices, third-party grocery stores, and more.

    https://venturebeat.com/2020/09/29/amazon-one-verifies-consumers-and-office-workers-by-scanning-the-palm-of-their-hands/
    Amazon already use face scans in their 'staff-free 'Go' stores, this is likely to be a 2nd stage complimentary (pairing) transaction verification, to cover basic 'biometric liveness detection' {rules out inanimate spoof artifact bypass risks}.

    Apple also, has a patent filed for ID verification patents using contactless hand scans.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,185 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    what is the conspiracy again? it is a bit odd for conspiracists to be doing everything in public.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭nannerbenahs


    In 2017, right after Trump took over, Anthony Fauci said, "There is NO QUESTION there is going to be a challenge for the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases. There will be a SURPRISE OUTBREAK. There’s NO DOUBT in anyone’s mind about this."

    True story.

    Even the fact checkers agree…

    Thousands of medical doctors call the pandemic a "global crime", and a "world dictatorship with a sanitary excuse". However, part of the top down control strategy has been extreme censoring of every single voice from doctors, scientists or other experts that criticize what is going on. Which is why you don’t get to hear about the 500-strong "Doctors for Information" in Germany or the 600 Spanish "Doctors for Truth" who are protesting about the massive misinformation in the mainstream media – urging doctors, the media and political authorities to stop this criminal operation by spreading the truth.

    Another thing they don’t tell you in the propaganda media is that a testing method FOR COVID-19 was patented in 2015 by Richard Rothschild – four years before the disease existed…


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,185 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    In 2017, right after Trump took over, Anthony Fauci said, "There is NO QUESTION there is going to be a challenge for the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases. There will be a SURPRISE OUTBREAK. There’s NO DOUBT in anyone’s mind about this."

    True story.

    Even the fact checkers agree…

    Thousands of medical doctors call the pandemic a "global crime", and a "world dictatorship with a sanitary excuse". However, part of the top down control strategy has been extreme censoring of every single voice from doctors, scientists or other experts that criticize what is going on. Which is why you don’t get to hear about the 500-strong "Doctors for Information" in Germany or the 600 Spanish "Doctors for Truth" who are protesting about the massive misinformation in the mainstream media – urging doctors, the media and political authorities to stop this criminal operation by spreading the truth.

    Another thing they don’t tell you in the propaganda media is that a testing method FOR COVID-19 was patented in 2015 by Richard Rothschild – four years before the disease existed…

    what does this have to do with digital IDs?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    In 2017, right after Trump took over, Anthony Fauci said, "There is NO QUESTION there is going to be a challenge for the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases. There will be a SURPRISE OUTBREAK. There’s NO DOUBT in anyone’s mind about this."

    True story.
    A true story, yet no source?
    That's strange.
    Another thing they don’t tell you in the propaganda media is that a testing method FOR COVID-19 was patented in 2015 by Richard Rothschild – four years before the disease existed…
    This isn't true though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,521 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    In 2017, right after Trump took over, Anthony Fauci said, "There is NO QUESTION there is going to be a challenge for the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases. There will be a SURPRISE OUTBREAK. There’s NO DOUBT in anyone’s mind about this."

    True story.

    Even the fact checkers agree…

    Thousands of medical doctors call the pandemic a "global crime", and a "world dictatorship with a sanitary excuse". However, part of the top down control strategy has been extreme censoring of every single voice from doctors, scientists or other experts that criticize what is going on. Which is why you don’t get to hear about the 500-strong "Doctors for Information" in Germany or the 600 Spanish "Doctors for Truth" who are protesting about the massive misinformation in the mainstream media – urging doctors, the media and political authorities to stop this criminal operation by spreading the truth.

    Another thing they don’t tell you in the propaganda media is that a testing method FOR COVID-19 was patented in 2015 by Richard Rothschild – four years before the disease existed…

    You've just copied and pasted all that word for word from this blog

    https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2020/09/30/heres-what-a-lockdown-should-actually-look-like/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    what is the conspiracy again?
    As ever... please read the title of the thread you are positng within^.

    'Digital ID's for everyone'
    (no doubt pushed and advanced greatly, thanks to China Flu).


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,428 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    As ever... please read the title of the thread you are positng within^.

    'No evidence for Digital ID's for everyone'
    (no doubt pushed and advanced greatly, thanks to China Flu).

    Fixed that for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Fixed that for you.
    Re-fixed that for you:


    'Digital ID's for everyone'

    (clue: it's the actual title of the thread)


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,428 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Re-fixed that for you:


    'Digital ID's for everyone'

    (clue: it's the actual title of the thread)

    But thats not a conspiracy theory, its a statement. Wheres the conspiracy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    But thats not a conspiracy theory, its a statement. Wheres the conspiracy?
    Unless one is 'challenged' in some mental capacity, it's clear the statement (thread title) is intended or delivered as a question, proposal, indeed a theory.
    Sure it's not a perfect title, but still the one assigned, and perfectly usable*.

    Prefix with 'Will there be', or suffix with a '?'
    *Really not that difficult....(unless you want it to be).

    If you've made it this far and still asking the 'lol' term, 'ah so whats the theory' can only suggest start reading at...

    Home > Topics > Society & Culture > Conspiracy Theories > Digital ID's for everyone : page 1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    As ever... please read the title of the thread you are positng within^.

    'Digital ID's for everyone'
    (no doubt pushed and advanced greatly, thanks to China Flu).
    Unless one is 'challenged' in some mental capacity, it's clear the statement (thread title) is intended or delivered as a question, proposal, indeed a theory.
    Sure it's not a perfect title, but still the one assigned, and perfectly usable*.

    Prefix with 'Will there be', or suffix with a '?'
    *Really not that difficult....(unless you want it to be).

    If you've made it this far and still asking the 'lol' term, 'ah so whats the theory' can only suggest start reading at...

    Home > Topics > Society & Culture > Conspiracy Theories > Digital ID's for everyone : page 1.


    Kindly stop trying to stifle the discussion here.

    Posters are allowed to question the relevance of evidence being given to support the theory that there is to be Digital IDs for everyong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    I noticed that another poster quoted from the following article / blog post:

    https://principia-scientific.com/proof-that-the-pandemic-was-planned-with-purpose/

    I'm lost for words. I'm finding it impossible to debunk any of what the writer wrote. And the World Bank is planning to keep this going until 2025, which may mean that deagle now beings to make sense.

    Can anyone debunk the claims made in the blog post?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,185 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I noticed that another poster quoted from the following article / blog post:

    https://principia-scientific.com/proof-that-the-pandemic-was-planned-with-purpose/

    I'm lost for words. I'm finding it impossible to debunk any of what the writer wrote. And the World Bank is planning to keep this going until 2025, which may mean that deagle now beings to make sense.

    Can anyone debunk the claims made in the blog post?

    why dont you post that in one of the many covid threads? it is probably already discussed


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    why dont you post that in one of the many covid threads? it is probably already discussed

    Thanks, but several of the claims made have not been discussed in other threads, as far as I'm aware, namely:

    1. Richard Rothschild patented a 'System and Method for Testing for COVID-19' in 2015 (there's a screenshot of the patent).

    2. Bill Gates tweeted in December 2019 that he was 5. excited about 2020 in terms of vaccines.

    3. "In September 2019 – also right before the outbreak – the Global Preparedness Monitoring Board released a report titled ‘A World At Risk’.

    It stressed the need to be prepared for… a coronavirus outbreak!

    On the cover of the report is the picture of a coronavirus and people wearing face masks."

    4. "Bill Gates also made it clear that only people who have been vaccinated against Covid-19 should be allowed to travel, go to school, attend meetings and work. (11) Digital vaccine ID’s are already being developed (12) and Gates has a patent on the technology that makes it possible to trace an individual’s body anywhere. This technology is called WO2020-060606 (13). In addition, Gates wants to set up a global monitoring network, which will track everyone who came into contact with Covid-19 (14)."

    5. "Dr. John Coleman is a famous Intelligence Officer from the CIA who wrote a book titled ‘The Committee of 300’. In it he explains how secret societies manipulate governments, health care, food industries, the media and so on. This book can be found on the website of the CIA. (15)

    One of the primary goals of the many secret societies, that control governments and the media, is to depopulate the earth.

    ‘At least 4 billion useless eaters shall be eliminated by the year 2050 by means of limited wars and
    organized epidemics of fatal rapid acting diseases…’"


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    2. Bill Gates tweeted in December 2019 that he was 5. excited about 2020 in terms of vaccines.

    Ok. Why in your mind did he say this?
    What's the conspiracy explanation for this specific quote?
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    This technology is called WO2020-060606 (13).
    Are you now a believer in the mark of the beast nonsense?
    If not, why claim this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,185 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. Why in your mind did he say this?
    What's the conspiracy explanation for this specific quote?


    Are you now a believer in the mark of the beast nonsense?
    If not, why claim this?

    best not to ask. they got scared by a song.


  • Registered Users Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Thanks, but several of the claims made have not been discussed in other threads, as far as I'm aware, namely:

    1. Richard Rothschild patented a 'System and Method for Testing for COVID-19' in 2015 (there's a screenshot of the patent).

    2. Bill Gates tweeted in December 2019 that he was 5. excited about 2020 in terms of vaccines.

    3. "In September 2019 – also right before the outbreak – the Global Preparedness Monitoring Board released a report titled ‘A World At Risk’.

    It stressed the need to be prepared for… a coronavirus outbreak!

    On the cover of the report is the picture of a coronavirus and people wearing face masks."

    4. "Bill Gates also made it clear that only people who have been vaccinated against Covid-19 should be allowed to travel, go to school, attend meetings and work. (11) Digital vaccine ID’s are already being developed (12) and Gates has a patent on the technology that makes it possible to trace an individual’s body anywhere. This technology is called WO2020-060606 (13). In addition, Gates wants to set up a global monitoring network, which will track everyone who came into contact with Covid-19 (14)."

    5. "Dr. John Coleman is a famous Intelligence Officer from the CIA who wrote a book titled ‘The Committee of 300’. In it he explains how secret societies manipulate governments, health care, food industries, the media and so on. This book can be found on the website of the CIA. (15)

    One of the primary goals of the many secret societies, that control governments and the media, is to depopulate the earth.

    ‘At least 4 billion useless eaters shall be eliminated by the year 2050 by means of limited wars and
    organized epidemics of fatal rapid acting diseases…’"


    All the more reason to bring them there, rather than derail this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. Why in your mind did he say this?
    What's the conspiracy explanation for this specific quote?


    Are you now a believer in the mark of the beast nonsense?
    If not, why claim this?

    No conspiracy. It could be a coincidence. I'm guessing the writer found the timing of the tweet suspicious.

    You focused on that tweet, but how do you explain what Richard Rothschild did? Do you think the screenshot is fake?

    I didn't notice the 666 in the patent. I just copied and pasted from the article.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    No conspiracy. It could be a coincidence. I'm guessing the writer found the timing of the tweet suspicious.

    You focused on that tweet, but how do you explain what Richard Rothschild did? Do you think the screenshot is fake?

    I didn't notice the 666 in the patent. I just copied and pasted from the article.
    You've avoided my point. I suspect that this is a deliberate tactic because you can't address the obvious issues with your conspiracy theory.
    You do this a lot.

    Let's try again:
    What do YOU believe/suspect/worry Bill Gates meant with that quote?
    Be specific and direct in your answer.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 Winterrr


    Many people are saying that the corona virus checking test is actually them implant bill Gates chip in you brain. This is why they shove the swab stick so far up you nose.
    Food for thought


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Winterrr wrote: »
    Food for thought

    Why is it food for thought?
    It obviously not true and complete nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    You've avoided my point. I suspect that this is a deliberate tactic because you can't address the obvious issues with your conspiracy theory.
    You do this a lot.

    Let's try again:
    What do YOU believe/suspect/worry Bill Gates meant with that quote?
    Be specific and direct in your answer.

    I didn't mean to avoid it. I don't think it matters what I think as much as what I believe the writer of the article thinks of the tweet. I imagine the writer found it suspicious that probably the world's biggest promoter of vaccines tweeted that 2020, the year of the pandemic, would be an exciting year for vaccines. I'm guessing the writer believes that that tweet suggests foreknowledge of the pandemic. What I believe is that he may have been referring to vaccines for Ebola. I don't believe he was referring to COVID-19. So I think I've answered the question.

    Do you believe that Richard Rothschild did what is claimed in the article?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I didn't mean to avoid it.
    Yet you seem to be doing a lot of avoiding.
    If it's not on purpose, maybe stop doing it?
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    What I believe is that he may have been referring to vaccines for Ebola. I don't believe he was referring to COVID-19. So I think I've answered the question.
    So then there's no conspiracy there.
    Great. Maybe you shouldn't post conspiracy theories that aren't true.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Do you believe that Richard Rothschild did what is claimed in the article?
    No.


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