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tuxy · 23-12-2018 1:50am

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Yeah there's simply no way that woman is 54. I'd struggle to put him at 47 either.

If the photos are from social media they could be taken years ago.

Edit: Nevermind, the photo was taken last year so recent enough.

Pat Dunne · 23-12-2018 3:00am

cameramonkey wrote: »

You could use rounds that explode close to the target. That is actually what many air defense systems are designed to do. They could be fired and programmed to explode above an area free of people or aircraft.

Then you seriously compromise the effectiveness of your proposed weapon system by using your operational criteria. Any nefarious drone operator will use these operational parameters to their advantage.

The are a number of anti drone defensive systems available which use electronic countermeasures and tracking systems which currently present the best defence against Drones in a non battlefield setting.

L1011 · 23-12-2018 4:08am

Whoever those people are, they aren't 54 and 47 either way around. I'd advise extreme caution in assuming anything from rumours until daytime if not Monday or even after Christmas

DOCARCH · 23-12-2018 8:28am

Given their ages and the fact they live in Crawley (beside Gatwick) you'd have to suspect some sort of environmental/anti-Gatwick protest.

whisky_galore · 23-12-2018 10:13am

Maybe they're just f-ing idiots?

They're youthful looking but clearly not spring chickens.

abff · 23-12-2018 11:19am

I think it remains to be seen whether they have the right people. They were saying on Sky News just now that police are searching a nearby house and that they will have to either charge or release them shortly or apply to a magistrate for an extension.

It looks as if the only evidence they have at this stage is circumstantial. From reading about the couple, it looks as if they may just tick some of the boxes, but there's nothing disclosed to date that would suggest a motive. Unless they find a "smoking gun", they may have no alternative but to release them.

If they are innocent, I really hope for their sakes that the police catch the actual perpetrators as otherwise the finger of suspicion may hang over them for the rest of their lives.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-12-2018 11:41am

tuxy wrote: »

If the photos are from social media they could be taken years ago.

Edit: Nevermind, the photo was taken last year so recent enough.

i agree. my missus thinks their clothes and hair looks 1990s.

nim1bdeh38l2cw · 23-12-2018 11:46am

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

i agree. my missus thinks their clothes and hair looks 1990s.

The camera quality doesn't though.

FrancieBrady · 23-12-2018 11:47am

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

i agree. my missus thinks their clothes and hair looks 1990s.

I think her eyebrows date it to the fairly recent fashion phenomenon of making them look like runways!

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-12-2018 11:50am

apparently they have alibis, and his mum has said @he is a very nice boy not an Eco-warrior.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gatwick-drone-suspect-paul-gaits-13771091

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-12-2018 11:51am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I think her eyebrows date it to the fairly recent fashion phenomenon of making them look like runways!

Francie i'll bow to your superior judgement in these matters.

anewme · 23-12-2018 12:12pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Yeah there's simply no way that woman is 54. I'd struggle to put him at 47 either.

Must take up that drone business myself so.

Better than Oil of Ulay.

dhaughton99 · 23-12-2018 12:26pm

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

apparently they have alibis, and his mum has said @he is a very nice boy not an Eco-warrior.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gatwick-drone-suspect-paul-gaits-13771091

Released without charge according to sky news

Homer · 23-12-2018 12:35pm

If they own drones (which they apparently do) then all they need to do is inspect the flight logs which is incredibly easy to do and it will show dates/times/locations of any flights. Should be easy enough to rule them in/out.
From what I’ve read I would have serious doubts over whether it’s them. His boss is providing an alibi and his neighbours are dying they would be shocked if it was them. He works from 7am to 7pm etc

Under His Eye · 23-12-2018 12:35pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-46665615
Gatwick drones pair 'no longer suspects'

What Username Guidelines · 23-12-2018 12:40pm

So nice of the rags to publish their photos everywhere before they’ve been charged, probably have a case for suing the papers now given they’ve been ruled out.

Beechwoodspark · 23-12-2018 12:55pm

So these two are no longer suspects

Stitch up job not carried through?

dhaughton99 · 23-12-2018 12:56pm

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

So nice of the rags to publish their photos everywhere before they’ve been charged, probably have a case for suing the papers now given they’ve been ruled out.

Yeah I was very surprised that they were all over the papers this morning. BBC vs Cliff Richards comes to mind.

zell12 · 23-12-2018 1:05pm

mickmackey1 · 23-12-2018 1:08pm

Hope they get millions.

Clearly the whole 'drones' nonsense is a cover-up for what actually went on. If there was a possibility of a major attack then that's maybe understandable, but the duplicity of the official media is laughable.

yerwanthere123 · 23-12-2018 1:17pm

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Hope they get millions.

Clearly the whole 'drones' nonsense is a cover-up for what actually went on. If there was a possibility of a major attack then that's maybe understandable, but the duplicity of the official media is laughable.

Haven't you already been told to stop with these type of posts?

plodder · 23-12-2018 1:19pm

Uh oh. The drone is back (on this thread). Cant someone take it out with a bazooka or something?

fishermantolka · 23-12-2018 1:25pm

All you smart people who think that shooting it down is a good idea. Where will it fall ? Where will the rounds that miss go ? Think guys think... Finding a bullet on the runway ? Bullets travel for miles Mate...

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-12-2018 1:26pm

they are beginning to look their age now. so long as some vigilante fool doesn't decide to exact "justice". i would have thought they will need some form of interim police protection after this.

dhaughton99 · 23-12-2018 1:44pm

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

they are beginning to look their age now. so long as some vigilante fool doesn't decide to exact "justice". i would have thought they will need some form of interim police protection after this.

I’m sure that dog poo is already in their letterbox.

Amirani · 23-12-2018 1:47pm

No ethics from UK tabloids as expected, plastering their faces all over the news before they're even charged. Police shouldn't be releasing names either if that's how they got them.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-12-2018 2:10pm

Amirani wrote: »

No ethics from UK tabloids as expected, plastering their faces all over the news before they're even charged. Police shouldn't be releasing names either if that's how they got them.

mind you if they play their cards right, employ the services of a good publicity/media agent, give the mandatory exclusive interview "How our lives were destroyed by Drone maniacs".

then there's the issue of psychological distress, depression, and of course possible Home Office compensation...

all in all it might yet turn out to be a bumper Christmas for them.

mickmackey1 · 23-12-2018 2:14pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Haven't you already been told to stop with these type of posts?

Sorry darling, we're not in the 1950s any more. Censorship no longer permitted.

L1011 · 23-12-2018 2:41pm

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Sorry darling, we're not in the 1950s any more. Censorship no longer permitted.

24 hour ban for repeatedly breaching moderation instructions. This will go to 72 hours then a week if you continue.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-12-2018 2:48pm

SkyNews has reported that a damaged drone was found close to Gatwick airport.
Could be connected to the recent "attack".

I agree with those calling for some type of mandatory chipping process, similar to what we have on Dogs, which would enable the owners of these things to be located more easily. Cant imagine it would add much more than a tenner per unit to the pp.
As it stands these idiots are in danger of effectively criminalising all drone hobbyists, which is not fair.

yerwanthere123 · 23-12-2018 3:17pm

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Sorry darling, we're not in the 1950s any more. Censorship no longer permitted.

L1011 wrote: »

24 hour ban for repeatedly breaching moderation instructions.

:pac:

dhaughton99 · 23-12-2018 3:26pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

:pac:

LOL don't question the Mod Gods.

zapitastas · 23-12-2018 3:32pm

The press really is populated by unscrupulous odious individuals. I hope the couple get suitably compensated for this carry on. Questions will need to be asked of the police and their interaction with the media in releasing the names of suspects as well

Collie D · 23-12-2018 3:36pm

zell12 wrote: »

I'm guessing from the layout that's the Daily Mail. What a ****ing rag. "Drone couple" in large font even in the story saying they're not suspects.

STB. · 23-12-2018 3:49pm

Well that couple are in for a nice windfall.

The Daily Mail doing what they do best, printing front page headline "Are these the Morons who ruined Christmas ?" before someone is even charged.

They have certainly ruined Geordie Greig's Christmas now that they have been released without charge. What a moron for printing such a headline.

23-12-2018 3:56pm

Who was it that said the authorities obviously know what they're doing and we should bow to their superior knowledge? :P

iamwhoiam · 23-12-2018 4:16pm

zapitastas wrote: »

The press really is populated by unscrupulous odious individuals. I hope the couple get suitably compensated for this carry on. Questions will need to be asked of the police and their interaction with the media in releasing the names of suspects as well

Police statement on BBC just now said they had not released the names to the media

STB. · 23-12-2018 4:35pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Police statement on BBC just now said they had not released the names to the media

Well clearly their names were given to the rag meejia, who doxxed the innocent couple.

Piers Morgan getting a right going over on Twitter. He posted pictures on his twitter feed. He has 6.5milliion followers.

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1076817405547081729

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1076801859300528128

faoiarvok · 23-12-2018 4:44pm

STB. wrote: »

The Daily Mail doing what they do best, printing front page headline "Are these the Morons who ruined Christmas ?" before someone is even charged.

Most newspaper headlines that end with question marks can be safely answered ‘no’.

STB. · 23-12-2018 4:52pm

faoiarvok wrote: »

Most newspaper headlines that end with question marks can be safely answered ‘no’.

Yes I know. Most newspaper headlines that have the word morons can safely be disregarded. Or Indeed Daily Mail above them.

Some of the responses to Piers Morgan are hilarious.

I particularly like the one that says "You should hack their phones just to make sure."

It will be a shít Christmas for this couple, but next year they'll be in the Bahamas.

trellheim · 23-12-2018 5:26pm

I must say I am sorry I linked them here. I had thought since it was across the media it was fair game.

zapitastas · 23-12-2018 5:30pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Police statement on BBC just now said they had not released the names to the media

Well they would not have officially given their names but they would have handed the names over on the quiet. As they always do. Is in cases like this where this practice is shown up

john boye · 23-12-2018 5:31pm

https://twitter.com/blue6oy/status/1076802620822638593?s=19

Excellent work

EdgeCase · 23-12-2018 5:34pm

It's quite possible that someone either saw police activity outside their house and contacted a tabloid or tweeted about it and were contacted, or that they were aware that the couple were drone and remote controlled aircraft enthusiasts and both called the police and the press.

People can be utterly charming sometimes.

I wouldn't necessarily jump to the conclusion that it was the police. They're under huge pressure since they released names of high-profile people under investigation who subsequently turned out to be entirely innocent. So, I doubt they'd be running to the press with names on something that is potentially a very complex and even sensitive operation.

There was a total vacuum of anything coming from the police during the incident and I think the press were likely hunting around for leads and found some either online or from someone who was willing to gossip.

iamwhoiam · 23-12-2018 5:37pm

zapitastas wrote: »

Well they would not have officially given their names but they would have handed the names over on the quiet. As they always do. Is in cases like this where this practice is shown up

Also possible that neighbours saw the arrests and passed on the names

PukkaStukka · 23-12-2018 5:45pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Police statement on BBC just now said they had not released the names to the media

Amirani wrote: »

No ethics from UK tabloids as expected, plastering their faces all over the news before they're even charged. Police shouldn't be releasing names either if that's how they got them.

In all cases I saw on broadcast media, it was said that "the couple were named LOCALLY as..."

In other words, the police didn't name them. The journos covering this were getting the info from neighbours etc.

expectationlost · 23-12-2018 5:50pm

maybe going off topic but why did they need to be arrested?

23-12-2018 6:24pm

Silly question, perhaps, but what's the situation at the airport lately?

Drone still hanging around or disappeared since the arrests?

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-12-2018 6:35pm

expectationlost wrote: »

maybe going off topic but why did they need to be arrested?

i must admit i never felt they were the culprits. they just didn't look the sort. too ordinary. too run of the mill imho.

Locker10a · 23-12-2018 6:41pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Silly question, perhaps, but what's the situation at the airport lately?

Drone still hanging around or disappeared since the arrests?

There’s a constant Helicoptor presence I’m at the airport right now, flights operating as normal

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