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Farming Chitchat 10/10- Now VIRUS-FREE!

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  • #9502
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    That's a very Italian solution, Gozunda!

    When the Milk super levy was introduced, Italian dairy men just ignored it for a few years.
    Then the EU tried to enforce it.
    That didn't really work either, so the EU introduced a slaughter scheme for dairy cows, withcompensation for each cow sent to the factory from the dairy herd.
    Payment was issued for each cow culled, and the proof of culling was the number of ears with the tags attached.
    But a strange thing happened, despite tens of thousands of cows culled, milk delivery to the dairys was rising.

    Extensive investigations revealed tens of thousands of one-eared cows milking away on Italian farms...

    What about the Greeks.
    Didn’t the inhabitants of an island get caught out all claiming payments for being blind including shopkeepers, farmers and even taxi drivers. Some were claiming other disabilities payments too.


  • #9503
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    _Brian wrote: »
    What about the Greeks.
    Didn’t the inhabitants of an island get caught out all claiming payments for being blind including shopkeepers, farmers and even taxi drivers. Some were claiming other disabilities payments too.

    Houses were left unfinished in Greece so that they wouldn't have to pay property tax.


  • #9504
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    _Brian wrote: »
    What about the Greeks.
    Didn’t the inhabitants of an island get caught out all claiming payments for being blind including shopkeepers, farmers and even taxi drivers. Some were claiming other disabilities payments too.

    They had a property tax in Greece, which got paid on completion of the build. You'd see a lot of inhabited homes that had unfinished 3rd and 4th floors. I'm sure the two things weren't connected at all.


  • #9505
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Water John wrote: »
    Houses were left unfinished in Greece so that they wouldn't have to pay property tax.

    Snap..... if I hadn't fixed typos :pac:


  • #9506
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    That's why the Greek economy was in trouble, most Greeks avoided paying tax of any sort.


  • #9507
    ganmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Taxes are for other people


  • #9508
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I see Wexford is just behind Meath on the acreage of land that's going under solar farms.

    There'll be a lot of sheep required to graze underneath.
    Tillage, vegetable and grassland going to Solar.


  • #9509
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Say my name wrote: »
    I see Wexford is just behind Meath on the acreage of land that's going under solar farms.

    There'll be a lot of sheep required to graze underneath.
    Tillage, vegetable and grassland going to Solar.

    With soo much roof space available on farms, could that not be pursued first


  • #9510
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    With soo much roof space available on farms, could that not be pursued first

    There's trouble managing the load and feeding in information on what supply is being pushed into the system. Too much fed in without enough being drawn down could overload the system, iirc. Smart metering would help a good bit in that regard but it seems to be pushed down the tracks even further this year.


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  • #9511
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    With soo much roof space available on farms, could that not be pursued first

    I don't know what the motives or hindrances are but it's 1060 ha (2620 acres) of ground now in this fell swoop going to be under panels in just Meath and Wexford.


  • #9512
    wrangler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    I see Tomas Burke has got the Livestock position in IFA , He used to be a right terrier if there was an issue, hopefully he hasn't mellowed since I left


  • #9513
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    There would be a bit of differential of about 5/10% solar output because of sunshine/irridation in favour of Wexford.


  • #9514
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Just finished tidying up a shed here.

    The good news is I have 8 more bales of straw than I thought I had.

    The bad news is I have 8 fewer bales of hay than I thought I had.


  • #9515
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Water John wrote: »
    There would be a bit of differential of about 5/10% solar output because of sunshine/irridation in favour of Wexford.

    And even a difference between me in north Wexford and anyone on the south coast of Wexford.

    I wonder though will the land owners still receive a bps payment?
    If they won't they'll be forced onto the land market to retain their payments.
    That's not to say they won't be in the market anyway looking for something to occupy their free time now with full pockets.


  • #9516
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »
    Just finished tidying up a shed here.

    The good news is I have 8 more bales of straw than I thought I had.

    The bad news is I have 8 fewer bales of hay than I thought I had.
    That's what you get for letting townies fill your shed..


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  • #9517
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Say my name wrote: »
    And even a difference between me in north Wexford and anyone on the south coast of Wexford.

    I wonder though will the land owners still receive a bps payment?
    If they won't they'll be forced onto the land market to retain their payments.
    That's not to say they won't be in the market anyway looking for something to occupy their free time now with full pockets.

    That was an issue that came up when lease options were being initially offered. From memory, originally there was no problem. Then I think the Dept of Finance advocated a change but this was later rescinded. The land is still agricultural land TMK, hence the need to have sheep/calves on it. Solar electricity and organic meat production. Land loses about 30% of grass production due to shade.


  • #9518
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Say my name wrote: »
    That's what you get for letting townies fill your shed..

    Tbf, I'd have a lot less of both if I left them empty the shed:p


  • #9519
    Dinzee Conlee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Say my name wrote: »
    And even a difference between me in north Wexford and anyone on the south coast of Wexford.

    I wonder though will the land owners still receive a bps payment?
    If they won't they'll be forced onto the land market to retain their payments.
    That's not to say they won't be in the market anyway looking for something to occupy their free time now with full pockets.

    As far as I know they don’t affect the BPS...

    I don’t see why they should - if you can still graze sheep under them, that’s still farming... ;)


  • #9520
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,198 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    With soo much roof space available on farms, could that not be pursued first

    Entire farms will be covered. 70 acre one going up near me.


  • #9521
    Dinzee Conlee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Danzy wrote: »
    Entire farms will be covered. 70 acre one going up near me.

    From what I have heard - a 70acre solar farm wouldn’t even be that big. They are looking for farms in the 100+ size of at all possible?

    Would agree with Hard Knocks - why don’t they put some scheme in to put panels on shed roofs?
    But as always, we want to take the easy way out :(


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  • #9522
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Five acres produces one MW. About 800Mw in in Phase 1. UK installed 1Gw solar last month alone.
    I agree roofs should be used too at a different price point. But it would take a lot of roof space to cover five acres.
    Great option for those whose land was suitably located.


  • #9523
    Dinzee Conlee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Water John wrote: »
    Five acres produces one MW. About 800Mw in in Phase 1. UK installed 1Gw solar last month alone.
    I agree roofs should be used too at a different price point. But it would take a lot of roof space to cover five acres.
    Great option for those whose land was suitably located.

    Agree - I don’t think it should be either or...

    I think there should be more micro generation possibilities supported, across all generation types - solar, wind, water...
    Not just massive industrial ventures..


  • #9524
    Waffletraktor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    With soo much roof space available on farms, could that not be pursued first

    Roofs have to be too a certain weight bearing spec, about 5 years ago over here companies would re roof your sheds for free and upgrade for x years free rent. Helped alot of farms with knackered sheds string them out a while longer.


  • #9525
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Dinzee Conlee wrote: »
    Agree - I don’t think it should be either or...

    I think there should be more micro generation possibilities supported, across all generation types - solar, wind, water...
    Not just massive industrial ventures..

    Absolutely agree, not a large difference in the scheme of things in terms of output but would greatly help with wider buy in from the public.


  • #9526
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,198 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Dinzee Conlee wrote: »
    From what I have heard - a 70acre solar farm wouldn’t even be that big. They are looking for farms in the 100+ size of at all possible?

    Would agree with Hard Knocks - why don’t they put some scheme in to put panels on shed roofs?
    But as always, we want to take the easy way out :(

    Sheds are too small. 70 acres is a lot of sheds. 100 acres is more.


  • #9527
    50HX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭50HX


    Dinzee Conlee wrote: »
    From what I have heard - a 70acre solar farm wouldn’t even be that big. They are looking for farms in the 100+ size of at all possible?

    Would agree with Hard Knocks - why don’t they put some scheme in to put panels on shed roofs?
    But as always, we want to take the easy way out :(

    Plus they want the acerage in open tracks of land, not 100 acres in 20 fields type senario

    I wonder like the forsetry would you have to re panel at your own expenses after so many years:D


  • #9528
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Danzy wrote: »
    Sheds are too small. 70 acres is a lot of sheds. 100 acres is more.

    There's big issues with transmission losses with electricity being produced in remote areas to provide for high demand elsewhere.

    Makes more sense to have these solar 'farms' use brownfield sites adjacent to urban areas and unused land adjacent to major roadways.

    A lot of these current developments are being driven by investment companies becauce 'green' investments are popular not necessarily that they makes sense ...


  • #9529
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    No, planning is for 25 years AFAIK. The only stipulation, the same as for wind turbines is reinstatement of the site. This has to be bonded by the developer with the LA.

    To keep costs down most sites are developed near grid substations. Larger ones would be adjacent to 110kv substations.


  • #9530
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    As good a thread as any to leave this.

    https://twitter.com/AnnaDubowik1/status/1311768242088808452?s=20


  • #9531
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Eldest daughter was 18 yesterday. Had some family over last night at separate times for a piece of cake. Strange times.

    Wee things like this that remind a fella of his age.


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  • #9532
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,851 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Apparently Donald Trump and his wife have tested positive for coronavirus


  • #9533
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Apparently Donald Trump and his wife have tested positive for coronavirus

    Cup of bleach three times a day and UV light up the gicker, he will be cured by Monday.


  • #9534
    NcdJd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Not that I'd wish covid on anyone but I'm surprised it took so long for Mr Trump to catch it looking at all the engagements he goes to without wearing a mask.


  • #9535
    NcdJd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Had a tooth that was giving me a lot of pain over the last few weeks. Dentist filled it but said it might need root canal. So anyway went to him yesterday and he said root canal might not work for this one but we can try it. I asked him how much will all this cost between root canal, post and crown. I just said after I heard all the money just take it out. Feel like a million dollars this morning. No more neurofen!


  • #9536
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,703 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Might interest some here, Ireland's greenways/bike route map;

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1HAHB3jpXV7qgrTHgopH4Zl7-ItDHGEPv&ll=53.4320326010536%2C-8.939188105408457&z=7

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #9537
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Apparently Donald Trump and his wife have tested positive for coronavirus

    And I'm Santa Claus, the mans a liar.


  • #9538
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And I'm Santa Claus, the mans a liar.

    Did he not have it already?


  • #9539
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,851 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Nice little earner


  • #9540
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Nice little earner

    True but reckon they make even more on the post and packaging ...


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  • #9541
    straight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭straight


    Fell off a ladder yesterday and hurt my knee. Milkings are tough going and the quad never got more use. Be careful out there folks. Happens in the blink of an eye.


  • #9542
    Odelay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭Odelay


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Might interest some here, Ireland's greenways/bike route map;

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1HAHB3jpXV7qgrTHgopH4Zl7-ItDHGEPv&ll=53.4320326010536%2C-8.939188105408457&z=7

    When you only select "completed" routes, it shows just how few routes there really are in existence.


  • #9543
    ganmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Odelay wrote: »
    When you only select "completed" routes, it shows just how few routes there really are in existence.

    I saw 2017 on the map so it might be out of date.
    It doesnt include the Wicklow way so it may not have the the older way marked trails


  • #9544
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Leak in my heating system, grand. Found it, fixed it, still not right, so put colouring through the system, leak in the coil in cylinder. Replaced that last night.
    Oil wouldn't work today, got local guy out, pump in the oil burner gone.

    WHAT DID I DO TO ANGER THE CENTRAL HEATING GODS :pac::D


  • #9545
    jimini0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭jimini0


    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    Leak in my heating system, grand. Found it, fixed it, still not right, so put colouring through the system, leak in the coil in cylinder. Replaced that last night.
    Oil wouldn't work today, got local guy out, pump in the oil burner gone.

    WHAT DID I DO TO ANGER THE CENTRAL HEATING GODS :pac::D
    Better it happen now than in the midst of winter. With a storm blowing and 3ft of snow on the ground


  • #9546
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,483 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    Leak in my heating system, grand. Found it, fixed it, still not right, so put colouring through the system, leak in the coil in cylinder. Replaced that last night.
    Oil wouldn't work today, got local guy out, pump in the oil burner gone.

    WHAT DID I DO TO ANGER THE CENTRAL HEATING GODS :pac::D

    Just being yourself I'm guessing


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  • #9547
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Just being yourself I'm guessing

    I'm so lovely theyre trying to make me less lovely by making me invent new curse words.


  • #9548
    Birdnuts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Might interest some here, Ireland's greenways/bike route map;

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1HAHB3jpXV7qgrTHgopH4Zl7-ItDHGEPv&ll=53.4320326010536%2C-8.939188105408457&z=7

    Have done the one near Castlebar and the Baldoyle/Portmarnock Greenway recently and found both excellent thanx to the naturally maintained habitats along the route.


  • #9549
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    ganmo wrote: »
    Isn't that communication

    Ganmo. Clear out some of your inbox.

    You're fuller than a


  • #9550
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,703 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Mod note; all the green party posts have been moved to their own thread here
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058118789

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #9551
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,925 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Spent the last few hours mixing cement. I can see how lads that done it all their life end up crippled. Tough work.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



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