2019 All Ireland Senior Football Championship Mod note: Post #1

gormdubhgorm · 25-05-2019 9:40pm

threeball wrote: »

Newstalk will never drop him as he's always great for a controversial quote. He always has something ridiculous to say like the time he lost his car after coming out of coppers.

That story only slightly topped the guff that David Brady was going on about before the AI Semi Final 2017 between Dublin and Tyrone.
He was going on about how he 'really believed' Tyrone would beat Dublin.
So much so, I started to wonder did he have an inside track or inside knowledge!
He was saying how Con O'Callaghan could be got at because he is inexperienced.

Then Con scored a goal in 3 minutes.
Finished with 1-2 at the end of the game.

Brady says at the end of the game 'Ah sure you have to have a bit of craic with these things' :rolleyes:

The_Honeybadger · 25-05-2019 9:54pm

Brady is the weakest pundit in the national media. No insight, does not understand the modern game or tactics, says the daftest things, the guy is a complete moron. It’s amazing that he still gets work.

boggerman1 · 25-05-2019 9:56pm

Is it too soon to start mayo for Sam 2020.oh mayo may ye never change.delusions of grandeur from them the whole time with only a league to show.I would have liked to see them finally win an all Ireland one time not now.chockers and bottlers
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RMAOK · 25-05-2019 10:01pm

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

Love to see Mayo draw Louth or Wicklow now just to see the GAA **** themselves about how much money they'll lose.

Mayo always bring huge numbers with them wherever they play. Look at the new York match this year or the game below in the gaelic grounds in limerick.

Granted, both of them county's wouldn't gave the biggest grounds in the world, but a long run through the qualifiers by mayo would be music to the top brass' ears....

grbear · 25-05-2019 10:31pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Too much mouthing in the media. Maughan was at it as well. Practically wrote Anthony Cunningham's team talk for him.

I wouldn't lump Maughan in with that gobdaw Brady. He gave a good interview to that Mayo GAA podcast which focused on how he got started in management and made a prediction. Nothing like David and his look at me schtick.

Powerhouse · 25-05-2019 10:52pm

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

Love to see Mayo draw Louth or Wicklow now just to see the GAA **** themselves about how much money they'll lose.

That seems an odd thing to take pleasure in, but even at that you are missing the point. In that regard I'd say the GAA would be delighted top see Mayo draw Louth or Wicklow as it would protect them and help ensure that they get back on shore for the Super 8s. Mayo drawing Louth or Wicklow would help the GAA make money not lose it. It's not like if they draw Antrim or Waterford instead they'll have to move it to Croke Park to hold the crowd.

Powerhouse · 25-05-2019 10:54pm

RMAOK wrote: »

Mayo always bring huge numbers with them wherever they play. Look at the new York match this year or the game below in the gaelic grounds in limerick.

Granted, both of them county's wouldn't gave the biggest grounds in the world, but a long run through the qualifiers by mayo would be music to the top brass' ears....

Limerick's ground must be in the top 3 or 4 in the country for capacity.

RMAOK · 25-05-2019 10:56pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

Limerick's ground must be in the top 3 or 4 in the country for capacity.

I know that - I was referring to the county ground's of Louth and Wicklow - the two teams OldMrBrennan mentioned in his initial post.

Powerhouse · 25-05-2019 11:08pm

threeball wrote: »

David Brady the Muppet saying if they didn't beat roscommon by 12 to 15pts they were wasting their time. He is right in a way but you can't say that the day before a match as an ex player. Connaught is always a dogfight.

Why can't you say something like that the day before a match as an ex-player? There is surely no sense or merit in the superstitious beliefs of some people that this sort of stuff influences games in this day and age of proper scientific preparation?

If you actually look at the evidence objectively he is right in a lot of ways. Roscommon played in the Super 8 last year and lost Donegal by 7, Tyrone by 18 and Dublin by 14. They exited the 2017 championship to Mayo by 22 points, lost the Connacht Final replay in 2016 by 11 points and subsequently exited to Clare (an NFL Division 3 team at the time).

This shows that at the very top level Roscommon have come up way way short and should be put to the sword by a team which aspires to that same top level. And he is entitled to say what is clearly borne out by reality. There's enough soapy claptrap talked by pundits who you know would be speaking out the other side of his mouth privately on the same topic.

Hulk Hands · 25-05-2019 11:12pm

Stop. Brady is a buffoon. Mayo made the all Ireland in 2017 and were lucky to draw with Roscommon along the way. A 2 point win would've been more than acceptable. Asking for 12+ was moronic

gormdubhgorm · 25-05-2019 11:14pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

Why can't you say something like that the day before a match as an ex-player? There is surely no sense or merit in the superstitious beliefs of some people that this sort of stuff influences games in this day and age of proper scientific preparation?

If you actually look at the evidence objectively he is right in a lotof ways. Roscommon played in the Super 8 last year and lost Donegal by 7, Tyrone by 18 and Dublin by 14. They exited the 2017 championship to Mayo by 16 points, lost the Connacht Final replay in 2016 by 11;points and subsequently exited to Clare (an NFL Division 3 team at the time).

This shows that at the very top level Roscommon have come up way way short and should be put to the sword by a team which aspires to that same top level. And he is entitled to say what is clearly borne out by reality. There's enough soapy claptrap talked by pundits who you know would be speaking out the other side of his mouth privately on the same topic.

I don't think Brady believes half the things he says if he did people would have more respect for him. He just makes it up as he goes along.
How come you do not factor in Roscomon's performances in the league?
I know they got relegated, but they put in some great efforts and can count themselves unlucky getting relegated.

Powerhouse · 25-05-2019 11:15pm

boggerman1 wrote: »

Is it too soon to start mayo for Sam 2020.

Given that they are still in the 2019 championship I'd say so. They exited the 2016 and 2017 championships at the same stage and were still just one kick of a ball away from beating Dublin both years' finals, so exiting Connacht has not meant much in the past. There is also the reality that they'll be in the draw with many many poor enough teams so are very likely fairly safe until the Super 8s. Chances are you'll see them again before 2020.

Powerhouse · 25-05-2019 11:21pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Stop. Brady is a buffoon. Mayo made the all Ireland in 2017 and were lucky to draw with Roscommon along the way. A 2 point win would've been more than acceptable. Asking for 12+ was moronic

Hardly luck to draw with Roscommon in 2017. Roscommon led 2-2 to 0-1 after 12 minutes and in the end it was Roscommon who had to make it a draw.

Hulk Hands · 25-05-2019 11:22pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

Hardly luck to draw with Roscommon in 2017. Roscommon led 2-2 to 0-1 after 12 minutes and in the end it was Roscommon who had to make it a draw.

After a pox lucky deflected Lee Keegan goal that changed the game? If ros had an ounce of tactical nounce back then they'd have coasted home but the half backs kept attacking and left space

Powerhouse · 25-05-2019 11:27pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I don't think Brady believes half the things he says if he did people would have more respect for him. He just makes it up as he goes along.
How come you do not factor in Roscomon's performances in the league?
I know they got relegated, but they put in some great efforts and can count themselves unlucky getting relegated.

I can't comment on what he believes to be honest so I won't.

Yeah, fair enough point about Roscommon in the League but it is a reality that they have come up short fairly spectacularly in the championship when they have come up short. In 2017 Roscommon had largely the same experience in the League (winning one game in Division 1) and were still filleted in Croke Park by Mayo (22 points) in the All-Ireland quarter-final.

My point is that there is evidence to back up the kind of opinion Brady offered even if it's controversial to actually say it. (And to be fair he probably said it off the cuff without contextualising it)

rossie1977 · 25-05-2019 11:35pm

Roscommons issue over last few years has been their inability to play two games in a week. They don't or at least didn't have the conditioning under McStay to carry out such a task.

In 16 they drew Connacht final vs Galway and hammered week later.. Beat well by Clare following week

2017, won Connacht beating Galway by 9 points, drew with Mayo then got walloped the following week.

Last year lost close Connacht final, beat Armagh in hard fought round 4 game and 6-7 days later got ate by Tyrone

Powerhouse · 25-05-2019 11:41pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

After a pox lucky deflected Lee Keegan goal that changed the game? If ros had an ounce of tactical nounce back then they'd have coasted home but the half backs kept attacking and left space

You are making my point for me. Roscommon simply weren't very good but by a freak found themselves with a winning lead, but were duly hauled back and got demolished in the replay. Luckily enough they had all their tactical nous in place a year later when they were soundly beaten in the Connacht Final before being utterly thrashed in the Super 8. Just as well they were not as tactically naïve as in 2017. As it was conceding 4-20 to Dublin from play must constitute some kind of record. In the previous year's final the Mayo defenders did most of the scoring for Dublin the first day as far as I remember.

Jeju · 25-05-2019 11:44pm

Roscommon are a different animal this year under Cunningham than previously under McHale. They are still learning some horrible mistakes albeit against a top 4 team, but you could see the togetherness and fight tonight. Galway vs Ros will be an epic battle and we could see 3 teams from the West on the S8s

rossie1977 · 25-05-2019 11:50pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

You are making my point for me. Roscommon simply weren't very good but by a freak found themselves with a winning lead, but were duly hauled back and got demolished in the replay. Luckily enough they had all their tactical nous in place a year later when they were soundly beaten in the Connacht Final before being utterly thrashed in the Super 8. Just as well they were not as tactically na as in 2017. As it was conceding 4-20 to Dublin from play must constitute some kind of record. In the previous year's final the Mayo defenders did most of the scoring for Dublin the first day as far as I remember.

Connacht final last year was level in 69th minute..

Roscommon themselves scored 2-12 from play vs Dublin which tells you about the level of defending in that game. 3 players that started that day started tonight btw

nice_guy80 · 25-05-2019 11:50pm

The media and pundits keep ignoring the fact that Roscommon are always good for upsetting one of the two others out west.
Can they win the final though?
Beating Galway and Mayo hasn't been done since 2001
And that year the GAA ensured Galway got a second crack at Roscommon in a quarter final, played in Castlebar

Hulk Hands · 25-05-2019 11:50pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

You are making my point for me. Roscommon simply weren't very good but by a freak found themselves with a winning lead, but were duly hauled back and got demolished in the replay. Luckily enough they had all their tactical nous in place a year later when they were soundly beaten in the Connacht Final before being utterly thrashed in the Super 8. Just as well they were not as tactically naïve as in 2017. As it was conceding 4-20 to Dublin from play must constitute some kind of record. In the previous year's final the Mayo defenders did most of the scoring for Dublin the first day as far as I remember.

"By a freak found themselves with lead".

In 2017 Ros had hammered Galway. Galway had beaten Mayo, with Mayo needing a freak lucky goal to make it close. In the last 3 years alone, Mayo have lost to Ros, Galway x3, Kildare and drew with Ros, Derry, Cork and needed a dive to beat Fermanagh. This kind of arrogance, thinking a little team like Roscommon, who in reality are very nearly as good as ye, were freakily ahead is exactly why people are laughing tonight

blanch152 · 26-05-2019 12:25am

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

As a Dub supporter I am not too surprised with the Rossies beating Mayo.
Mayo were awful against Dublin in the league and thier scoring was atrocious
In the Hyde park Dublin were lucky get out of there with the win, terrible conditions..
Yer man Cox was great that day as well.
I remember saying to a Rossie supporter if they play like that they could win Connacht.

Anyway fair play to the Rossies.

Neither was I surprised.

Pressure is off Mayo now, they will go on a run that will get them to the Super 8s. Once they hit the semi-final or final, they will have another meltdown.

Rinse and repeat and start again.

Strabanimal · 26-05-2019 12:43am

Mayo have always been a thorn in our side. Great result for Roscommon.

Let us not forget how easy it is for Dublin to win Leinster however. They should never be considered for the best team ever.

Joe Don Dante · 26-05-2019 1:36am

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Its just funny to see Mayo gone again.

Just for the simple fact that in all the previews only Dublin, Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone get a mention and IMO Galway are better than Mayo and we haven't a hope of beating Dublin.
All the talk was Mayo were the biggest contenders and it was baseless... their best players are all approaching retirement and their slip at underage is starting to affect their seniors.

Galway and Roscommon yet again... it wont be the occasion Galway and Mayo would have been but since theres so many Mayo people in Galway its embarrassing to play them here as we're basically outnumbered.

All the other matches today show how much of a joke the championship is now.
Cant even sell out a double header in Portlaois and in all the games where a clear divide existed, they ended up being Turkey shoots.

Thank God they restructured the hurling as that will be the pivotal factor in the football following suit.

sorry but Galway are not better than Mayo

Hulk Hands · 26-05-2019 1:38am

Strabanimal wrote: »

Mayo have always been a thorn in our side. Great result for Roscommon.

Let us not forget how easy it is for Dublin to win Leinster however. They should never be considered for the best team ever.

As opposed to Kerry teams in the 80s who would face Tipp and Limerick teams to get out of Munster who would struggle to field 15? Most years, Dublin have consistently walked the league (where they only play the best), as well as championship. I hate them and the natural advantage they have but it's nigh on impossible to argue against their greatness

Happyilylost · 26-05-2019 1:44am

Joe Don Dante wrote:

sorry but Galway are not better than Mayo

Based on what evidence?

Strabanimal · 26-05-2019 1:54am

Hulk Hands wrote: »

As opposed to Kerry teams in the 80s who would face Tipp and Limerick teams to get out of Munster who would struggle to field 15? Most years, Dublin have consistently walked the league (where they only play the best), as well as championship. I hate them and the natural advantage they have but it's nigh on impossible to argue against their greatness

Give any other top 5 side a leinster battle, 2 home games in the super 8s and home in the semis and final. Then give them the same budget as Dublin.

Would the Dubs still win do you think?.We all know the answer.

Tyrone ib the 00s had constant competition with no advantages and brought a new strategy to the game this dublin team now uses. Dublin have given us nothing.

Utopia Parkway · 26-05-2019 2:54am

grbear wrote: »

I wouldn't lump Maughan in with that gobdaw Brady. He gave a good interview to that Mayo GAA podcast which focused on how he got started in management and made a prediction. Nothing like David and his look at me schtick.

Maughan, who has managed both counties at various times during his lengthy coaching career, and is currently in charge of the Offaly senior footballers, believes that Mayo will be ‘far too physically strong’ for the Rossies next weekend.
“I know the Mayo lads will be absolutely tuned and there will be no complacency around this game,” he said. “I have no doubt that this Mayo team are far better than this Roscommon team.
“I think the Roscommon result in Carrick-on-Shannon against Leitrim was a good result for Mayo, because Roscommon might come in with a certain belief that they can go and compete with Mayo. I don’t think they will.
“I think Mayo are a far, far better proposition now than they were seven or eight months ago.
“They have had an injection and infusion of so much new talent that they’ll be too strong, physically too strong for them, and that Mayo will win the game comfortably.
“I would be absolutely shocked if Mayo didn’t come out comfortable winners.”

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Even if you believe it he went a bit overboard. I don't think this type of stuff influences results but it certainly doesn't help.

Utopia Parkway · 26-05-2019 2:59am

nice_guy80 wrote: »

The media and pundits keep ignoring the fact that Roscommon are always good for upsetting one of the two others out west.
Can they win the final though?
Beating Galway and Mayo hasn't been done since 2001
And that year the GAA ensured Galway got a second crack at Roscommon in a quarter final, played in Castlebar

Hammered them and won the All Ireland. Happy days.

Hulk Hands · 26-05-2019 3:01am

Strabanimal wrote: »

Give any other top 5 side a leinster battle, 2 home games in the super 8s and home in the semis and final. Then give them the same budget as Dublin.

Would the Dubs still win do you think?.We all know the answer.

Tyrone ib the 00s had constant competition with no advantages and brought a new strategy to the game this dublin team now uses. Dublin have given us nothing.

We all know the answer? How? Dubs beat every team not named Mayo or Kerry by 7 points plus every time they play them and they hammered the living daylights out of the current Mayo version in Feb. No team has ever consistently beat their opposition by near double digits. And I'm not on their side, I think it's unfair but you can't argue against what's been shown on the pitch

Hulk Hands · 26-05-2019 3:04am

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Hammered them and won the All Ireland. Happy days.

One of the virtuous of the back door. Meant one bad day riddled with injuries didn't stop the best team by a country mile winning out

Hulk Hands · 26-05-2019 3:53am

Joe Don Dante wrote: »

sorry but Galway are not better than Mayo

A Mayo team hasn't beaten a Galway team since mid 2015. 17 games across minor, u21 u20 and senior. Not including club which would add to it. Galway seniors won Connacht last year with Mayo gone by July

nice_guy80 · 26-05-2019 7:10am

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

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Even if you believe it he went a bit overboard. I don't think this type of stuff influences results but it certainly doesn't help.

Just shows how clued in Maughan is
Roscommon played Leitrim in the Hyde, not Carrick

nice_guy80 · 26-05-2019 7:11am

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Hammered them and won the All Ireland. Happy days.

Yep.
That Roscommon team went off the rails after winning Connacht final.
Well, the whole county did to be honest

Powerhouse · 26-05-2019 7:59am

rossie1977 wrote: »

Connacht final last year was level in 69th minute..

Never quite sure about the value of these snapshot-in-time observations. Mayo were level with Dublin after 71 minutes of the 2017 All-Ireland final. but that didn't guarantee anything a year later. It might be more telling to point out that Roscommon led that Connacht Final you refer to by 1-4 to 0-2 after 22 minutes and were outscored by 0-14 to 1-2 during the rest of the game. They failed to score from play in the second-half. That possibly reflects the nature of that Connacht Final more honestly than your original point?

Roscommon were outscored 12 scores to 7 from play last night and that was with Mayo managing 17 wides (which is not say that good defending doesn't play its part in this but it implies a lot of possession for Mayo in the danger zone). A more efficient team than Mayo last night will kill them.

Fair play to Roscommon for their win but when you take out the melodrama that envelopes some people when reacting to Mayo defeats there are limited takeaways from that game for Roscommon regarding future prospects. Last year they made the Super 8 by beating only two Division 3 teams. That might be what they have to rely on again.

Powerhouse · 26-05-2019 8:12am

Hulk Hands wrote: »

"By a freak found themselves with lead".

In 2017 Ros had hammered Galway. Galway had beaten Mayo, with Mayo needing a freak lucky goal to make it close. In the last 3 years alone, Mayo have lost to Ros, Galway x3, Kildare and drew with Ros, Derry, Cork and needed a dive to beat Fermanagh. This kind of arrogance, thinking a little team like Roscommon, who in reality are very nearly as good as ye, were freakily ahead is exactly why people are laughing tonight

Not sure what all this "ye" nonsense is about or where Fermanagh or Kildare fit into this but to deal with the point I actually made: Roscommon, on all evidence, leading Mayo by seven points after 12 minutes was freakish as they were so far behind them as proven the course of the rest of that game and in the reply.

Anyway, it's just a word - don't take it to heart.

Powerhouse · 26-05-2019 8:26am

Strabanimal wrote: »

Mayo have always been a thorn in our side. Great result for Roscommon.

Let us not forget how easy it is for Dublin to win Leinster however. They should never be considered for the best team ever.

Maybe it is, but Kildare won three matches outside Leinster to get to the Super 8, including knocking out the beat All-Ireland finalists of the previous year, while Tyrone needed extra-time to beat Meath by a point. It seems that teams from other parts of the country don't always roll over Leinster teams quite as easily.

I also suspect that Dublin would successfully negotiate the choppy waters of the Munster championship if they were in Kerry's shoes, and likewise teams such as Down, Fermanagh and Antrim up north. We hardly need to comment on how they dealt with Connacht's finest, Roscommon and Galway, last year.

I couldn't comment on Dublin being the best team ever. I'm not old enough to have seen all the teams, not young enough to be certain of my opinions, but the idea that they are winning only because of a weak provinces or "home" games is a laugh. They have always played predominantly in Croke Park. It never was an issue until they had the temerity to actually win.

grbear · 26-05-2019 8:40am

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

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Even if you believe it he went a bit overboard. I don't think this type of stuff influences results but it certainly doesn't help.

I've heard the audio from the interview as it was part of the podcast. It didn't come across as massively arrogant when he was talking about the match but he acknowledged that what he was saying could end up sounding that way.

Brady is just an attention seeker. Claiming Mayo would have to beat Roscommon by two or three times the handicap betting in order to be taken seriously. Nonsense.

threeball · 26-05-2019 9:49am

Powerhouse wrote: »

Why can't you say something like that the day before a match as an ex-player? There is surely no sense or merit in the superstitious beliefs of some people that this sort of stuff influences games in this day and age of proper scientific preparation?

If you actually look at the evidence objectively he is right in a lot of ways. Roscommon played in the Super 8 last year and lost Donegal by 7, Tyrone by 18 and Dublin by 14. They exited the 2017 championship to Mayo by 22 points, lost the Connacht Final replay in 2016 by 11 points and subsequently exited to Clare (an NFL Division 3 team at the time).

This shows that at the very top level Roscommon have come up way way short and should be put to the sword by a team which aspires to that same top level. And he is entitled to say what is clearly borne out by reality. There's enough soapy claptrap talked by pundits who you know would be speaking out the other side of his mouth privately on the same topic.

I already said there was a element of truth in what he said as the top teams do tend to dismantle Roscommon. However, Mayo very rarely dismantle anyone let alone the one county that hates them more than any other.

Outside of the croke park replay, Mayo very rarely beat Roscommon well and often lose to them in games they are heavy favourites to win. Coming out and saying on the eve of the match that they need to beat them by 12 to 15 is nonsense. It was never going to happen and I'd be very surprised is Cunningham didn't stick the audio on in the bus on the way down. Gaelic football is at least 50% attitude and aggression so motivating factors do give teams a huge advantage whether you like it or not.

Comic Book Guy · 26-05-2019 9:50am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Connacht is a two horse race
Newly minted League champions Mayo go to NYC next months an then play Roscommon or Leitrim if they win in NYC
Galway go to London first and if they win play Sligo
So that sets up a very important Connacht final in Salthill between Galway and Mayo
Galway have owned Mayo this last few years but have done little else
Even in the league they were 7 points up at 35 mins away from a league final the they conspired to lose the game and the final place

Winning this is very important for both and it makes the groups stages much easier

The danger of being OP I guess.

Powerhouse · 26-05-2019 10:10am

threeball wrote: »

I already said there was a element of truth in what he said as the top teams do tend to dismantle Roscommon. However, Mayo very rarely dismantle anyone let alone the one county that hates them more than any other.

Outside of the croke park replay, Mayo very rarely beat Roscommon well and often lose to them in games they are heavy favourites to win. Coming out and saying on the eve of the match that they need to beat them by 12 to 15 is nonsense. It was never going to happen and I'd be very surprised is Cunningham didn't stick the audio on in the bus on the way down. Gaelic football is at least 50% attitude and aggression so motivating factors do give teams a huge advantage whether you like it or not.

What the this'll-be-pinned-up-on-the-dressing-room-wall brigade can never explain is how a team like Dublin motivates themselves if they are not being insulted the day before the match.

In this day and age an inter-county manager would need to come up with something more strategic than an audio clip of David Brady to prepare his team. Whether I like it or not has nothing to do with it.

The matter of whether Mayo often beat Roscommon easily or not is irrelevant. In a rational world not informed by superstitions about the past and by "x don't ever fear Y" clichés, Brady has a point. Dublin, who are the benchmark, would beat Roscommon by 15 points.

As a county which has reached four All-Ireland finals this decade and got within a point of the winners in three of them, beat Roscommon by 21 points last time they met in championship, and was able to win the League this year while Roscommon were relegated, would be very unambitious if they could not accept that some people are entitled to hold Mayo to that kind of standard.

It might not suit Mayo people as it pins them to a standard of expectation they might be unable to meet, while their opponents can naturally beef up the impact of the win with the "we were written off" claptrap. But the faux offence in evidence here is an absolute joke. It was a comment, an opinion, no more no less. And an opinion that many would privately concede too.

Farawayhome · 26-05-2019 10:19am

Comic Book Guy wrote: »

The danger of being OP I guess.

Good one.

seligehgit · 26-05-2019 10:24am

Super post Powerhouse.

Nail on the head,lots of faux offence.

David Brady tends to play to the crowd in terms of analysis.Hence the stereotype labelling he receives.. Poor analyst etc.It's gets him lots of attention and same is always welcome in media organisations.

Still to this day enjoy his story re him believing he'd lost his car.

BTW for what my opinion's worth I think he is a poor analyst but he's rich in company.

Fr Tod Umptious · 26-05-2019 10:25am

Comic Book Guy wrote: »

The danger of being OP I guess.

Very disappointed by Mayo last night.
But well done Roscommon.

Any bounce off the league win is now in the bin.

With the new structure getting to and winning a provincial final goes a long way towards mapping out a plan to go further.

For Mayo that is all up in the air now.

Farawayhome · 26-05-2019 10:29am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Very disappointed by Mayo last night.
But well done Roscommon.

Any bounce off the league win is now in the bin.

With the new structure getting to and winning a provincial final goes a long way towards mapping out a plan to go further.

For Mayo that is all up in the air now.

Might have better luck in tier 2.

Comic Book Guy · 26-05-2019 10:31am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Very disappointed by Mayo last night.
But well done Roscommon.

Any bounce off the league win is now in the bin.

With the new structure getting to and winning a provincial final goes a long way towards mapping out a plan to go further.

For Mayo that is all up in the air now.

Still think they will breeze thru into Super 8s. The accumulation of extra games though isn't ideal.

Kerry and the Ulster Champions will hardly be happy to see them land in their group either.

OldMrBrennan83 · 26-05-2019 10:33am

Would Monaghan do them?

nice_guy80 · 26-05-2019 10:33am

Powerhouse, you don't understand local rivalry. Roscommon hadn't won in Castlebar for 33 years. Thete were grown men crying on the pitch after that game last night.
Not every team or group of fans are as cold and professional as the Dubs.
Roscommon had only 4 players starting from the 2017 connacht final afaik
It's almost a new set of players

Fr Tod Umptious · 26-05-2019 10:37am

Comic Book Guy wrote: »

Still think they will breeze thru into Super 8s. The accumulation of extra games though isn't ideal.

Kerry and the Ulster Champions will hardly be happy to see them land in their group either.

I'm more confident of them in the qualifiers this year than last because I believe they are a bit fresher, but it's still a minefield.

If Roscommon lose to Galway then Mayo would have only one chance of landing in the Ulster/Munster group as they cannot meet Roscommon in Rnd 4.

They have two chances of landing in the other group

C__MC · 26-05-2019 11:15am

Terrible result for mayo lads. They need to win 3 games now to make super eights and win a further two to get to a semi. I don't think they'll win All Ireland down this route. Poor decision making last night cost them. Roscommon deserved it , question is can they back it up against galway. Traditionally they have struggled in doing this.

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