Leader of country caught up in blackface controversy.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 19-09-2019 2:09am #1

No, not Donald.

Your liberal hero, the guy who brought you matching socks, daily orange man bad reports and the word peoplekind....

Itsssss Leo’s best bud, Justin!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49749851

riffmongous · 19-09-2019 2:13am

20 years ago.. in high school

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 19-09-2019 2:16am

riffmongous wrote: »

20 years ago.. in high school

Ding ding ding!!

Winner!!

If this was Trump the White House would be burning right now, but hey, it’s not, and it was like TOTALLY 20 years ago MAAAAN.

Post #2 in the thread.
Congratulations.

sabat · 19-09-2019 2:21am

I wonder if he left a brown handprint on that woman's décolletage?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 19-09-2019 2:27am

sabat wrote: »

I wonder if he left a brown handprint on that woman's décolletage?

It’s been a while since I heard that word, 1985 I think it was.

sabat · 19-09-2019 2:42am

Hunky Monster wrote: »

It’s been a while since I heard that word, 1985 I think it was.

"I can see the statue's décolletage moving Pat?"

ceadaoin. · 19-09-2019 3:53am

riffmongous wrote: »

20 years ago.. in high school

He wasn't in high school, as in attending high school. he was a teacher. How old do you think he is?

Anyway, stupid thing to do for sure but didnt we all do or say stupid things at some stage? Whats with the blackface trend amongst high profile politicians though? Bit weird.

Your Face · 19-09-2019 4:03am

All liberals are closet racists.

S. Goodspeed · 19-09-2019 4:13am

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Ding ding ding!!

Winner!!

If this was Trump the White House would be burning right now, but hey, it’s not, and it was like TOTALLY 20 years ago MAAAAN.

Post #2 in the thread.
Congratulations.

Leaving claims of hypocrisy aside, do you feel he should be hung, drawn and quartered for it? Or can it be written off as silly mistake a long time ago for which he seems apologetic for?

Outlaw Pete · 19-09-2019 4:20am

Outlaw Pete · 19-09-2019 4:47am

The comments which Megyn Kelly made were about as innocuous as it gets too.

But people went after her, imo, as she had been so synonymous with FOX for many years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDni4xqxlBQ

lalababa · 19-09-2019 4:47am

Is there something wrong with putting black on your face? Like what's racsist about that? I thought racsim was thinking your particular race is superior to another? Or do I need to be educated on the history of ...... dden den den dennn.. BLACKFACE!!!!! In a historical context of course.
What a load of boll**ks.
The sooner we forget about racsim the quicker it'll go away.

mickoneill31 · 19-09-2019 5:11am

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Ding ding ding!!

Winner!!

If this was Trump the White House would be burning right now, but hey, it’s not, and it was like TOTALLY 20 years ago MAAAAN.

Post #2 in the thread.
Congratulations.

Really? Of all the things that Trump has done you think if he did blackface that'd be the thing that would bring him down

Zorya · 19-09-2019 5:34am

Well a couple of decades ago this would not be considered weird because people were not as twistedly obsessed with race and identity as they seem to be now - ìt was either innocent craic or gauche silliness. People somehow did not notice the neighbourhood Nazis and racists that seem to mushroom in every crevice nowadays. But with a pain in the arse sanctimonious vain witless pompous preacher like Trudeau...heh, couldnt happen to a better gobshyte. A few days squirming will do him good.

ricero · 19-09-2019 7:15am

The champion of the liberals embarrassed for all to see is fairly funny. The left are eating themselves.

I'm sure his best buddy Varadkar is not happy that his best buddy is a supposed racist.

DavidLyons_ · 19-09-2019 7:15am

Zorya wrote: »

Well a couple of decades ago this would not be considered weird because people were not as twistedly obsessed with race and identity as they seem to be now - ìt was either innocent craic or gauche silliness. People somehow did not notice the neighbourhood Nazis and racists that seem to mushroom in every crevice nowadays. But with a pain in the arse sanctimonious vain witless pompous preacher like Trudeau...heh, couldnt happen to a better gobshyte. A few days squirming will do him good.

Good post. The hypocrisy of people like Trudeau gets a light shone on it in situations like this.

If this were one of his opponents running for office who was shown to have worn blackface, he’d have been the first to condemn them.

screamer · 19-09-2019 7:19am

Well he’s red faced now...... someone should have taught him to never do anything that can be caught on camera surely it’s 101 for public figures

Gregor Samsa · 19-09-2019 7:52am

Your Face wrote: »

All liberals are closet racists.

You’re right. I fücking hate closets. Send them home to Ikea or wherever they come from.

19-09-2019 8:07am

lalababa wrote: »

Is there something wrong with putting black on your face? Like what's racsist about that?

No idea - my daughter wanted to be Moana one Halloween of late. Being possibly one of the palest skin girls in Ireland she happily used things to make her go down 1000 shades of brown to something akin to the film. The world did not end and not a single person of any skin colour protested or batted an eye lid.

Online however - I ended up reading articles about people getting seriously triggered by kids dressed up as Moana and other costumes that required darkening skin. And even where the kids did not change their skin - sure they got offended anyway because of the "cultural appropriation" one they use when they can't find the black faces.

Once again showing me that when you turn off the computer and go out into the real world - none of this culture of offence seems to be in evidence. The twittersphere and places like it really are a new world separate from my own - which is probably why I never signed up for it.

Our species is weird.

Mr. Arkadin · 19-09-2019 8:16am

Nobody now calls Orson Welles racist for wearing dark make-up in his adaptation of Othello, or for his 'Voodoo Macbeth that he staged in Harlem with a troupe of black actors. Why? Because he never gave any indication, before or after, that he was racist.

So I agree with the OP that this would be a bigger news story if this was Trump, but that's because The Donald, quite demonstrably, doesn't like black people.

s7ryf3925pivug · 19-09-2019 8:22am

Not surprised at this. I'm generally a liberal. He's not my hero. No fan of Varadkar either, even if it's refreshing to have someone in who's capable of talking to foreign leaders without trying to crawl up their buttholes.

begsbyOnaTrain · 19-09-2019 8:24am

If you've got the right politics, this doesn't matter. The current (D) Governor of Virginia was found last year to be in a college pic in blackface beside someone dressed up as a Klansman. Absolute crickets from the usual quarters. Because? he's a Democrat, and therefore: A Good Guy.

s7ryf3925pivug · 19-09-2019 8:24am

Ah **** off with the claims it's not racist. Would you do it in front of a bunch of Indian people? Nope of course not, not unless you were ripping the p!ss out of them.

Those clips of comedians in blackface - they did that in fro nct of black people and in such a way as not to cause offence.

banie01 · 19-09-2019 8:25am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No idea - my daughter wanted to be Moana one Halloween of late. Being possibly one of the palest skin girls in Ireland she happily used things to make her go down 1000 shades of brown to something akin to the film. The world did not end and not a single person of any skin colour protested or batted an eye lid.

Mumble mumble cultural appropriation mumble mumble!

Its one of those things that SJW's will label anyone partaking in as at the very least culturally insensitive and at worst a white slave owning devil...

Surely common sense would dictate that for the act to be racist that the person in blackface, has to at the very least have racism or aggression towards another race as part of the animus for their act?

The race to label many as racist for blacking up, would likely lead to 90% of Irish people who did Halloween anytime before 2000 as plantation owners!
What with the national penchant for bin bags and shoe polish!

There are certainly instances and issues where blackface is clearly wrong and deliberately intended to be offensive.
However there is a rush (online) to infer offense at every little thing often where none is implied.

I don't consider myself racist, but I have done racist things out of sheer stupidity.
I apologised at the time to those who took offence and learned a lesson but also made it clear the offence given was not deliberate and I learned something too.
Is the teen early 20s bracket no longer the appropriate to learn, test and understand what our social norms are?
Anyone who made it through that age Bracket without doing something as thoughtless is not only a better person than I...
They are better than Gandhi, Buddha and Jesus too!

I mean that time at work when I found out my friend was having an affair with one of the hottest girls in the office...
And I said "You kept that quiet, you're a dark horse aren't you?"
Out of context a racist remark?
Possibly considering he was black, and from what I've heard...
Hung like a horse!
But luckily I hadn't said it in twitter I suppose

and he has a grasp of the nuance of language :P

TheValeyard · 19-09-2019 8:26am

Wow, Mr.Peoplekind getting eaten by his own crew.

biko · 19-09-2019 8:26am

Justin should have gone to that party as Fidel Castro, who was a really good friend with his mom.

19-09-2019 8:26am

riffmongous wrote: »

20 years ago.. in high school

He was 29. A case of arrested development.

s7ryf3925pivug · 19-09-2019 8:27am

Democrats are far quicker to renounce other Democrats than Republicans are to renounce Republicans. That comedian guy who had the joke photo with his hands on a sleeping woman's chest was hung out to dry for that. Trump is a blundering madman but Republicans always back him up so long as he keeps pushing Republican policy.

Ulysses Gaze · 19-09-2019 8:27am

riffmongous wrote: »

20 years ago.. in high school

2001 when he was 29 years old.
Around the time he sexually assaulted the female reporter too.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/06/canada-justin-trudeau-groping-case-reporter

Never trust a Male Feminist.

WB Yokes · 19-09-2019 8:28am

Its been a bad few weeks for the left, at home and abroad.

s7ryf3925pivug · 19-09-2019 8:28am

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

2001 when he was 29 years old.
Around the time he sexually assaulted the female reporter too.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/06/canada-justin-trudeau-groping-case-reporter

Never trust a Male Feminist.

He what now?

s7ryf3925pivug · 19-09-2019 8:29am

Kimber Drab Broomstick wrote: »

He what now?

A male feminist is just a man who agrees with equal treatment between the sexes.

DavidLyons_ · 19-09-2019 8:31am

TheValeyard wrote: »

Wow, Mr.Peoplekind getting eaten by his own crew.

It’s pr1cks like Trudeau that are driving this perpetually offended narrative. Delighted for the sanctimonious, insincere tw@t.

biko · 19-09-2019 8:32am

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

You’re right. I fücking hate closets. Send them home to Ikea or wherever they come from.

Did you just assume where closets come from?

begsbyOnaTrain · 19-09-2019 8:33am

Kimber Drab Broomstick wrote: »

Democrats are far quicker to renounce other Democrats than Republicans are to renounce Republicans.

BS. Ralph Northam got the kid gloves treatment.

Mint Sauce · 19-09-2019 8:34am

20 years ago. At an Arabian themed party. Yeah, lets dig out the oul pitch forks.

El Tarangu · 19-09-2019 8:36am

I really am glad that the decision was made to move all of these shít-show threads out of After Hours and into their own forum.

RollieFingers · 19-09-2019 8:50am

Quite funny seeing one of the leaders behind this extremely liberal don't offend anyone politically correct bs get caught out for this. Remember he corrected someone for saying mankind instead of peoplekind. Maybe you should relax on the blackface before lecturing others Justin.

Portsalon · 19-09-2019 8:52am

Mint Sauce wrote: »

20 years ago. At an Arabian themed party. Yeah, lets dig out the oul pitch forks.

Unaware presumably that the Arabs were - and still are - among the leading players in the slavery industry.

About as non-PC as going to a Nuns and Priests themed party dressed as a paedophile.

19-09-2019 8:56am

Whatever about the blackface, he's practically grabbing that woman's boob... And I bet he's pushing his hard on against her ass too. And her smile looks decidedly unhappy. That guy is definitely a perv.

Galwayguy35 · 19-09-2019 8:57am

Ha so the poster boy for the liberal left gets caught out, timing sucks for him as well because there's an election coming up and he isn't doing great in the polls.

He wasn't a kid either when this happened so he can't say he was too young to know better at the time, he was 29 years old and employed as a teacher.

is_that_so · 19-09-2019 9:00am

Bizarre that facepainting seems to trip people up all the time. Not sure why adults need to take responsibility for their much younger clueless selves but it's all about the image and there' someone out there who'll start a fire on social media.

Galwayguy35 · 19-09-2019 9:08am

is_that_so wrote: »

Bizarre that facepainting seems to trip people up all the time. Not sure why adults need to take responsibility for their much younger clueless selves but it's all about the image and there' someone out there who'll start a fire on social media.

Ah come on now, if it was someone from the right that this was about the pink hair brigade would be screaming for his head.

He was 29 as welll so not exactly young and clueless

is_that_so · 19-09-2019 9:11am

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Ah come on now, if it was someone from the right that this was about the pink hair brigade would be screaming for his head.

Part of my point - the screaming. Lots of agendas out there no matter what side of the field you play on. Forcing people to play by 2019 alleged sensibilities is a rich feeding ground.

pjohnson · 19-09-2019 9:16am

is_that_so wrote: »

Part of my point - the screaming. Lots of agendas out there no matter what side of the field you play on. Forcing people to play by 2019 alleged sensibilities is a rich feeding ground.

Most of the screaming here is the "right" types. Its mostly the right that get offended/triggered/upset nowadays.

Brian? · 19-09-2019 9:16am

ricero wrote: »

The champion of the liberals embarrassed for all to see is fairly funny. The left are eating themselves.

I'm sure his best buddy Varadkar is not happy that his best buddy is a supposed racist.

The left? The Canadian liberal party isn't left wing. They are classic economic liberals and socially liberal. Like Fine Gael.

I wish someone could explain when liberals became left wing, with their free market economics and what not. My guess is some time around the advent of YouTube talking heads appearing.

DavidLyons_ · 19-09-2019 9:17am

is_that_so wrote: »

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Ah come on now, if it was someone from the right that this was about the pink hair brigade would be screaming for his head.

Part of my point - the screaming. Lots of agendas out there no matter what side of the field you play on. Forcing people to play by 2019 alleged sensibilities is a rich feeding ground.

Personally I don’t find what he did offensive and wouldn’t be calling for his head because of it.

We can leave that to certain sections of his fan base and support. He’ll be eaten by his own.

As I posted above, it’s as$holes like him driving this constant over sensitive, everything is offensive claptrap and he’d be the first to condemn an opponent for it.

pjohnson · 19-09-2019 9:20am

Brian? wrote: »

The left? The Canadian liberal party isn't left wing. They are classic economic liberals and socially liberal. Like Fine Gael.

I wish someone could explain when liberals became left wing, with their free market economics and what not. My guess is some time around the advent of YouTube talking heads appearing.

When you try to converse with the likes of the OP that believe liberal = left 100% its best to ignore facts. It just goes over their heads or they call it fake news.

is_that_so · 19-09-2019 9:20am

pjohnson wrote: »

Most of the screaming here is the "right" types. Its mostly the right that get offended/triggered/upset nowadays.

North American politics seems hung up on the idea that old pictures tell current stories. They mostly don't but it's good negative campaigning forcing politicians to squirm.

CrankyHaus · 19-09-2019 9:21am

Not remotely surprised by this hypocrisy, which in my experience is very common with these do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do types.

I've come across it plenty of times here in Ireland. For instance I know a public-figure duo who spent secondary school and college making interminable gay jokes and constantly doing a "comedy" African accent (including once in front of an African taxi driver) yet both of them nowadays will give out about "dog-whistling", "race and gender based arguments" and "populism"without a hint of self-awareness.

Salary Negotiator · 19-09-2019 9:22am

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Not remotely surprised by this hypocrisy, which in my experience is very common with these do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do types.

I've come across it plenty of times here in Ireland. For instance I know a public-figure duo who spent secondary school and college making interminable gay jokes and constantly doing a "comedy" African accent (including once in front of an African taxi driver) yet both of them nowadays will give out about "dog-whistling", "race and gender based arguments" and "populism"without a hint of self-awareness.

Sounds like they’ve grown as people.

Leader of country caught up in blackface controversy.

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