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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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  • #102
    Knex*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    While that one is harsh, it's preseason for the refs too.

    I do think a change has to be made in the game, and it will take time to get it right. Lessons need to be learned from rugby, and how tackling is done there, although it's definitely more difficult to tackle somebody who's stacked in pads and a helmet than it is without.

    Perhaps that's the future. Strip back the pads and helmet, alter the rules even more to only allow rugby style tackling, and go from there. Taking helmets away from the linemen would be tough though. They do get slapped across the ceann about 40 times a game...


  • #103
    Guffy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,177 ✭✭✭Guffy


    Knex. wrote: »
    While that one is harsh, it's preseason for the refs too.

    I do think a change has to be made in the game, and it will take time to get it right. Lessons need to be learned from rugby, and how tackling is done there, although it's definitely more difficult to tackle somebody who's stacked in pads and a helmet than it is without.

    Perhaps that's the future. Strip back the pads and helmet, alter the rules even more to only allow rugby style tackling, and go from there. Taking helmets away from the linemen would be tough though. They do get slapped across the ceann about 40 times a game...


    At what point do you say the players know the risks involved in playing? At what point does a player take ownership of their decisions? A player knows that they risk paralysis if they tackle with the crown of the head, yet you still see it happen. At what point do you say, "ok, that one is on you"?


  • #104
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I'm not ashamed to say my allergies hit me watching Brian Dawkins get his own gold Jacket tonight.The other was Jerry Kramer who shouldn't have had to wait anywhere near this long.


  • #105
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Titans sign Kenny vaccaro, Reid had to reschedule his visit, was supposed to be today. Guess the Titans didn't want to wait


  • #106
    Jolly Red Giant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    Training camp tip for Offensive Rookie of the Year -

    Courtland Sutton - WR - Denver Broncos.

    The guy is catching everything thrown his way against a very good defence.


  • #107
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Jolly Red Giant wrote: »
    Training camp tip for Offensive Rookie of the Year -

    Courtland Sutton - WR - Denver Broncos.

    The guy is catching everything thrown his way against a very good defence.

    Denver Broncos fan picking Denver Broncos player for RoY award shocker....!!!!

    Based on 2 weeks of training camp. Seriously??


  • #108
    JaMarcus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭JaMarcus


    It'll be hard to win anything as a WR with Case Keenum underthrowing everything.


  • #109
    Jasper Fit Pedestrian
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Jasper Fit Pedestrian


    jack presley wrote: »
    Denver Broncos fan picking Denver Broncos player for RoY award shocker....!!!!

    Based on 2 weeks of training camp. Seriously??

    I mean he's consistent with this kind of stUff every year so I guess he's gona be right eventually


  • #110
    Jolly Red Giant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    Lily Thoughtless Swimmer wrote: »
    I mean he's consistent with this kind of stUff every year so I guess he's gona be right eventually

    Don't think that I ever touted an offensive rookie from the Broncos before - and here is another tip - 7 days into Training Camp -

    Defensive Rookie of the Year - Bradley Chubb - OLB - Denver Broncos.


  • #111
    tripperman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭tripperman


    Jolly Red Giant wrote: »
    Training camp tip for Offensive Rookie of the Year -

    Courtland Sutton - WR - Denver Broncos.

    The guy is catching everything thrown his way against a very good defence.

    Wait till you see him in pre season action against a live defense, team's in practice are working on there weakness not there strengths, so easy for anyone to look good,


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  • #112
    brinty
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    Jolly Red Giant wrote:
    Training camp tip for Offensive Rookie of the Year -

    Michael Gallup - WR - Dallas Cowboys

    The guy is catching everything thrown his way against a rapidly improving defence.

    Am I doing it right


  • #113
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Jolly Red Giant wrote: »
    Training camp tip for Offensive Rookie of the Year -

    Courtland Sutton - WR - Denver Broncos.

    The guy is catching everything thrown his way against a very good defence.

    Even if this isn't part of your annual hyperbolic pre season Broncos talk, it'll be pretty difficult for any rookie WR to get a Offensive Rookie of the Year title while trying to get targets behind two veterans like Thomas and Sanders. Even if he is good he'll be overshadowed by a rookie in a better situation, most likely a QB or RB.


  • #114
    Jasper Fit Pedestrian
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Jasper Fit Pedestrian


    Jolly Red Giant wrote: »
    Don't think that I ever touted an offensive rookie from the Broncos before - and here is another tip - 7 days into Training Camp -

    Defensive Rookie of the Year - Bradley Chubb - OLB - Denver Broncos.

    It's broncos will be the best at this it that every year or they will be better dumping Payton Manning after the Super Bowl loss broncos are a good team but if you keep overhyping them constantly its fairly tough to take anything seriously


  • #115
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Ray Lewis talking at the hall of fame induction would give you a case of ire on your bollocks.


  • #116
    Paully D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »
    Ray Lewis talking at the hall of fame induction would give you a case of ire on your bollocks.

    Just the 33 minutes for the speech.

    I was waiting for the Father Ted “and now we move on to liars” moment! :pac:


  • #117
    Say Your Number
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,779 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Haven't seen any of his speech ,but I've a good what it's like cos of this tweet.

    https://twitter.com/colin_dunlap/status/1025926041175552007


  • #118
    Jolly Red Giant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    brinty wrote: »
    Am I doing it right

    You got it ;)


  • #119
    Itssoeasy
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    https://www.instagram.com/p/BmGFzJmBJWU/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=aky2rz4dc595

    I've to watch the parts of the HOF I didn't see. I didn't and won't watch ray Lewis speech but I've seen he had a mic that meant he could move around and he's probably do a preacher gig. I liked the randy moss speech and TO did his from Tennessee which they showed some of it seems. Jerry Kramer was brilliant. That man is a legend. I didn't hear Brian Dawkins speech but I get the impression it was superb.


  • #120
    Jolly Red Giant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    Rumours coming out of Denver that the Broncos and Jets are discussing swapping Paxton Lynch for Teddy Bridgewater.


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  • #121
    jack presley
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    Jolly Red Giant wrote: »
    Rumours coming out of Denver that the Broncos and Jets are discussing swapping Paxton Lynch for Teddy Bridgewater.

    2018 MVP Teddy Bridgewater?


  • #122
    Niles Crane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Niles Crane


    Seeing as people were complaining about Ray Lewis speech, This is a proper hall of fame speech from Bob Uecker , broadcaster for the Milwaukee Brewers.

    2:30 to 3:00 is the best bit.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7dG5HCKeWA


  • #123
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Bob uecker is brilliant. I laughed watching it. Bob costas speech this year was good but a bit windy.


  • #124
    Jolly Red Giant
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    jack presley wrote: »
    2018 MVP Teddy Bridgewater?

    Nope - Von Miller has that one already in the bag :cool:


  • #125
    brinty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Jolly Red Giant wrote:
    Nope - Von Miller has that one already in the bag


    Funk y'all
    Jeff Heath #38 is the MVP
    Calling it now


  • #126
    VillaMad
    Registered Users Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    2016 First Round Pick, (part of the Carson Wentz trade) WR Corey Coleman has been traded to the Bills from the Browns for an unspecified pick.


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  • #127
    TOss Sweep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭TOss Sweep


    JRG lives by the rule keep throwing sh1t at the wall until something stick. Like someone who has a gambling problem got to take the small wins when they happen and make it look like you are an Epic gambler.


  • #128
    j8wk2feszrnpao
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    TO and Lewis, two speeches I'd no interest in listening to.


  • #129
    Knex*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Had to turn Moss' speech off after about three minutes. I can't handle the intense bible quotes and 'praise be Jesus' stuff.


  • #130
    Jolly Red Giant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    TOss Sweep wrote: »
    JRG lives by the rule keep throwing sh1t at the wall until something stick. Like someone who has a gambling problem got to take the small wins when they happen and make it look like you are an Epic gambler.
    Ah come on now Toss - its pre-season - every fan should believe - we can't all be as grumpy as you ;)


  • #131
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Titans players dropping like flies, great!


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  • #132
    OldMrBrennan83
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    Completely missed the Packers signing Marcedes Lewis and not resigning Rodgers.


  • #133
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Patww79 wrote: »
    not resigning Rodgers.
    For a second there...


  • #134
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Titans have been really lucky the last few years, but the Chargers are proper cursed by the looks of it
    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Titans players dropping like flies, great!

    Don't ever tempt the injury Gods.....!!!!!


  • #135
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    jack presley wrote: »
    Don't ever tempt the injury Gods.....!!!!!

    yeha.. should have thought about that before my first post!


  • #136
    mikemac2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    Seeing all the chat about the Ray Lewis speech reminds me I bought his autobiography. There is almost more in it about his high school wrestling than football.

    He is more proud of his wins in wrestling that what he achieved in football. Individual sport I guess, fair 'nuff

    Even if you are a Ravens fan there are better Ravens books out there.


  • #137
    qwabercd
    Registered Users Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    mikemac2 wrote: »
    Seeing all the chat about the Ray Lewis speech reminds me I bought his autobiography. There is almost more in it about his high school wrestling than football.

    He is more proud of his wins in wrestling that what he achieved in football. Individual sport I guess, fair 'nuff

    Even if you are a Ravens fan there are better Ravens books out there. I wouldn't say it's a must read or anything. I'm trying to think of great stories in it that stuck with me and I've got zero.

    Thought that was a good read myself, good insight into the behind the scenes operations. Feinstein is a brilliant author.


  • #138
    Loughc
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    What are the best NFL books out there at the moment?


  • #139
    Knex*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Loughc wrote: »
    What are the best NFL books out there at the moment?

    Kyle Shanahan's playbook!

    (my apologies, I don't actually know)

    This breakdown is damn cool and informative, however. Kollman knows his stuff. Really in depth stuff here on the Jags defenive scheme.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSSc70fWMz4


  • #140
    conor222
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭conor222


    Loughc wrote: »
    What are the best NFL books out there at the moment?

    Heard great things about take your eye off the ball
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25246289-take-your-eye-off-the-ball-2-0

    I've bought a copy for myself but haven't gotten round to it yet :o

    Another I've heard good things about is collision low crossers


  • #141
    krustydoyle
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    I bought a copy of this https://www.amazon.com/Warren-Sharps-2018-Football-Preview/dp/1721539034

    Its so detailed.. id recommend to all on here


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  • #142
    Guffy
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    Any totally legal suggestions as to where one can watch Hard Knocks would be greatly appreciated


  • #143
    VillaMad
    Registered Users Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Guffy wrote: »
    Any totally legal suggestions as to where one can watch Hard Knocks would be greatly appreciated

    Will be on Sky on Friday night if you want to wait that long?


  • #144
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Always funny


    https://twitter.com/captandrewluck/status/1027190295660716032?s=21


  • #145
    VillaMad
    Registered Users Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Actually just see that HBO have put the first episode of Hard Knocks up on Youtube.

    EDIT: Ah they just made it unavailable. Shame, it was working for a couple of hours.


  • #146
    Itssoeasy
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    VillaMad wrote: »
    Actually just see that HBO have put the first episode of Hard Knocks up on Youtube.

    EDIT: Ah they just made it unavailable. Shame, it was working for a couple of hours.

    So a bit like he browns as a team then ?


  • #147
    Knex*
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiqEFM6_LME


  • #148
    JaMarcus
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    Just after watching episode 1. Looks to me like Hue Jackson is very much in the Joe Philbin category of coaches - a really likeable guy who the players like, but not at all charismatic or authoritative. I think there needs to be an element of fear in a good head coach, and he just doesn't have it. Still, a really likeable guy.


  • #149
    mikemac2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    I hope he's not like Joe Philbin. He came across as so weak on that series

    Telling Matt Moore he would not be starter but couldn't tell him why, couldn't give areas to improve and just said that's how it is. Ok :confused:


  • #150
    raze_them_all_
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    next week on hard knocks

    dumpster-fire.jpg


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  • #151
    Guffy
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    Serious question. Can anyone tell me where i can get 10% interest for the next 7 years?


    Man that was a dull episode. Cubb was treated like **** but the cameras never went back to him? 4 days of footage and the RB group showed nothing? Where was the footage of Calloway and higgens tearing it up? Although I guess there will be a lot more football footage next week.

    I imagine Hue's losses had a lot to do with the episode's content. Condolances to the man but I honestly thought Haley was gona rip him a new one. I will honestly be surprised if he lasts the season. He appears soft imo.

    "Bless em"??? Child please. Landry was so forced for the cameras. In saying that his attitude off season has been spot on that the lad can do what he wants.


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