Those Conspiracy Guys Podcasts

anthonyjmaher · 25-02-2018 1:44pm

Yeah I think it's difficult to know how to gracefully transition from being a free podcast/channel to a commercial enterprise, without coming across has having a sense of entitlement for now wanting to be remunerated for your efforts. Frankly, there is nothing about the extras that are offered for the paid members that appeal to me. I might consider contributing if they would spend the money on editing. Also creates an issue for Gordon as to whether the contributors also get paid for their efforts. Wouldn't seem fair for the boss to get paid handsomely, and the contributors are treated just amateurs giving up their time for free. Unless you are the GAA, of course.
With regard to the US tour, I think it's a bit cheeky to expect everybody to pay for him to travel across the States, under the pretense that they will visit loads of conspiracy locations. I think it's waaaaaay too early in the project to expect the viewers to contribute to something like that. I'm not sure why he is not staying home trying to drive the project, maybe he had the trip to the US planned way in advance of the show taking off like it did?
He said in the last podcast that they are number 88 in the AMERICAN podcast charts. 88 out of 300,000 podcasts. If this is true, and I have no reason not to believe him, this is some achievement.

super_furry · 25-02-2018 1:51pm

Jack Thorn wrote: »

That's a pity, I thought he was the best one ... more intelligent, less crude & definitely funnier. I get that comedians make jokes about taboo, risky subjects to (supposedly) raise awareness of the matter but Gordo just isn't funny. Listen to latest true-crime pcast on Natalie Holloway ... overall it's pretty good ... but the rapey, misogynist comments by him are disturbing. Maybe it's just fun & after all, it's a comedy podcast ... but a comedian he is not, well not a good one anyways. Also, his constant mimicking of Jimmy Savile during that pcast was just creepy & way too many 'jokes' (??) about the victims. I miss the early days of TCG when they (now he) weren't trying so hard to be 'funny' (??). I think Paul was the balance that the 'duo' needed & without him I don't get it anymore. Also, for great true-crime pcasts listen to Casefile (excellent) & Sword And Scale (bit darker at times but intriguing).

Couldn't agree more, I find myself listening a lot less now that Paul has taken a step back. Without him there for balance it feels like Gordo is trying to be deliberately provocative and offensive and while I think that most things should be fair game for joking, he falls flat with his attempts at humour more often than not now.

Totally agree about Casefile too and their recent series on Silk Road has been compulsive. Big fan of They Walk Among Us too.

anthonyjmaher · 04-03-2018 11:09pm

New program up, posted yesterday, on Martin Luther King assassination.

About an hour in and it follows the same format.

super_furry · 05-03-2018 12:15pm

They need a good editor. I tried to listen to the David Icke episode, which is over five hours long, but between the waffling tangents about being stoned teenagers, the Jimmy Saville impersonations and the 'everyone has to pay to send me to America' begging, there's probably only about 2/3 hours or actual interesting content.

Cheerful Spring · 07-03-2018 7:36pm

Listened to John Titor show about halfway through was an interesting take on that episode. I tend to agree it was a bull**** story, but more interesting than most time traveller stories you read online.

9/11 show was good. I think the hijacking happened, but there is more to the backstory, then we know.

I like an Irish perceptive on conspiracy theories, all you get online, for the most part, is the American thinking of what happened version. I will continue to listen to more shows before bed.

Jack Thorn · 10-03-2018 12:52pm

As per above comments the 'begging' has really turned me off. Listen to any other regular podcast ... they may mention Patreon or ask people if they are willing to donate but in a professional way which for me, works & I am willing to part with a few quid. But the constant reminders that no-one is paying for his year long holiday with his girlfriend ... yawn! Also, the concept of doing conspiracy documentaries in America has been done to death, YouTube is full of it. Check out Jesse Ventura's 'Conspiracy Theory' documentaries, they are probably the best.

To be honest, I rarely finish a podcast anymore because of the tangents, the whinging about no one paying for their holiday & the obvious nepotism with regards guests i.e. his girlfriend & brothers! I mean c'mon! Edwin Sammon is a legend though ... now that a genuinely funny guy who doesn't resort to rape jokes or bad accents. Also, I reckon he mentions at least twice in every show that he used to have a drink & drug problem ... and he is now teetotal. Well done mate but give us a break from it sometime. I've also heard Gordo say he is now ignoring any 'negative' emails & feedback ... maybe he should listen to some criticism, I think most genuine broadcasters do this to improve their product.

I actually though when they were 'guys' i.e. Gordo & Paul, it worked & there was a genuine balance between the two. These days it's really just the 'Gordo Show' with guests who can barely get a word in most times & the 'show' aint that good anymore. Plus some of the recent content just aint that interesting e.g. Mormons, Icke & HAARP - i stop listening usually after about an hour and a half ... and the first hour is irrelevant nonsense anyways.

I advise anyone (including Gordo) to listen to Casefile ... I know it's true crime product but just compare it with TCG. The narrator just pulls you in, it's utterly professional, they don't beg & there are no jokes aimed at women, children & victims.

Can anyone advise what happens if you don't reach your target on GoFundMe? The 30k initial target is at approx. 11k with two weeks to go, does that money get refunded if it's no where near the target?

jeremyj1968 · 11-02-2019 8:21pm

Anybody listening to the show since. They didn't reach the full total of money that they were looking for, so he said that he was going for half the time instead. well that was the last time I listened. Just listening back to an old one tonight as it was in the news. Sandy Hook. Paul is on the Sandy Hook one - he is badly missed from the show. The show is so much better with his humour. I wonder why did he leave, I think I remember him saying something about the weeks of reading about such morbid events getting to him.

Ipso · 11-02-2019 8:38pm

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

Anybody listening to the show since. They didn't reach the full total of money that they were looking for, so he said that he was going for half the time instead. well that was the last time I listened. Just listening back to an old one tonight as it was in the news. Sandy Hook. Paul is on the Sandy Hook one - he is badly missed from the show. The show is so much better with his humour. I wonder why did he leave, I think I remember him saying something about the weeks of reading about such morbid events getting to him.

Reading about murdered toddlers probably would have that effect on people, reading about murdered toddlers in order to spread sh1te may suggest another underlying problem.

Loughc · 11-02-2019 9:29pm

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

Anybody listening to the show since. They didn't reach the full total of money that they were looking for, so he said that he was going for half the time instead. well that was the last time I listened. Just listening back to an old one tonight as it was in the news. Sandy Hook. Paul is on the Sandy Hook one - he is badly missed from the show. The show is so much better with his humour. I wonder why did he leave, I think I remember him saying something about the weeks of reading about such morbid events getting to him.

He also get a new job that meant that meant he didn’t have weeks available to research or 13 hour recording sessions.

That was the excuse at the time. But Gordo gets very bitter at the pure mention of Paul’s name so I reckon there’s more to the story.

Maybe there’s a conspiracy behind it :pac:

jeremyj1968 · 11-02-2019 10:35pm

Loughc wrote: »

He also get a new job that meant that meant he didn’t have weeks available to research or 13 hour recording sessions. Maybe there’s a conspiracy behind it :pac:

Hey Lough, are you still listening. They put up one on the 27 club earlier this week, I might have a listen.

jeremyj1968 · 12-02-2019 10:51pm

Just came across a really good Conspiracy podcast tonight. Surreal Talk. This is what Those Conspiracy Guys should be.

http://www.surrealtalkpodcast.com/

Loughc · 12-02-2019 11:27pm

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

Just came across a really good Conspiracy podcast tonight. Surreal Talk. This is what Those Conspiracy Guys should be.

http://www.surrealtalkpodcast.com/

Brilliant will give them a listen. I’m immediately won over with the shorter run times.

More often than not less is more Gordo!!

jeremyj1968 · 13-02-2019 2:35pm

Loughc wrote: »

Brilliant will give them a listen. I’m immediately won over with the shorter run times. More often than not less is more Gordo!!

I listened to the 9/11 one this morning, Lough, and it was good. Split in four parts. The two guys are actually quite funny and likeable. Also listened to the Las Vegas shooting. thumbs up so far.

I think about 90-120 minutes would nearly be my preferred time for a podcast. 5 hours is way too long, but sometimes just 60 minutes is not enough. I've tried listening to a lot of these "Conspiracy" type podcasts, and this is the first one in a long time where the presenters haven't turned me off within five minutes!

jeremyj1968 · 03-06-2019 12:16am

Listening to the latest episode at the moment. Gordo again is getting on my nerves with the a) constant promos b) endless impressions and accents and c) just being gratuitously crude for no reason. Interesting that the Anti Vax episode has two contributors that are completely pro vax. I wonder have got a big listenership are they becoming more and more afraid to question things.

jeremyj1968 · 16-06-2019 5:35pm

Heard Gordo on with FM104 the other day. He did a good item on the latest goings on with Google blocking and banning channels. I thought it was funny when he started describing the Alex Jones situation and how Jones did not believe that kids were killed at Sandy Hook and was accused of calling the parents of the Sandy Hook kids crisis actors. You could hear the presenters tut-tutting when he referred to this. Now I remember back to Gordo's own podcast on Sandy Hook, and during that recording all of the people in studio were "calling bullsh1t" on Sandy Hook, as they didn't believe the story either. But I guess it was one of those situations when it was just easier to let it slide, instead of informing the presenters that he too had misgivings about the purported events that took place at Sandy Hook.

Loughc · 16-06-2019 9:23pm

Simply put Gordo would throw his own mother in front of a train if it meant he got some money.

That’s why the podcast has gone to sh!te he’s begging for patronage non stop and would chance his point of view if it meant a sponsor or funder gave him money to do so.

Loughc · 16-06-2019 9:32pm

Actually did his TCGTV America trip ever get off the ground?

jeremyj1968 · 18-06-2019 6:00pm

Not sure what's happening with the tour. Like I said before, he was pushing hard for the money the last few times I listened to the full podcasts.Last time I heard he said he had half the money and was going to do half the tour. Don't know any more.

When I was looking for the old Sandy Hook episode (which had been pulled from the regular podcasts), I found my way to the Patreon page.

https://www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys

I did get a laugh at the Grand Master of The High Lodge membership which costs $200 per month and includes:

A private 60 minute video call once a month to chat about whatever you like in the conspiracy world

I'm thinking of offering a similar service to my family, I mean there's no point in me spending all that time with them and getting no payment.

Chicken George · 18-06-2019 6:08pm

Loughc wrote: »

Actually did his TCGTV America trip ever get off the ground?

Hey everybody. Please pay for my dream trip to America! Fack off.... and no, I wont give ye the price of a pint either. The neck of some people.

Kinda liked the podcast until the begging started.

Loughc · 18-06-2019 8:47pm

Chicken George wrote: »

Hey everybody. Please pay for my dream trip to America! Fack off.... and no, I wont give ye the price of a pint either. The neck of some people.

Kinda liked the podcast until the begging started.

Love this. That’s all it is I want to go holiday in America with my girlfriend please pay us to do so :pac:

jeremyj1968 · 18-06-2019 9:07pm

Loughc wrote: »

Love this. That’s all it is I want to go holiday in America with my girlfriend please pay us to do so :pac:

I think that is the problem I have with it as well. Fair enough if there was a groundswell of people who were demanding that he go to America to investigate something (maybe the Clintons :pac:) and this was the catalyst for him requesting the funding. But he just woke up one day and came out with this idea himself to travel around the States, with the missus in tow, to make documentaries on subjects he decided himself. It was very presumptuous.

And they did a real poor job on the 9/11 podcast. I would be re-doing that properly before I fly off anywhere. I think they were a bit afraid to cover that fully. He does face a problem I described above as well. The bigger the show gets, and the more listeners he gets, the harder it becomes to say things like "I'm calling bullsh1t on Sandy Hook".

jeremyj1968 · 30-06-2019 10:24am

Anyone listen to the episode on Anti Vax, just uploaded a few weeks ago. I was on a long journey in the car yesterday so I turned it on. Very interesting the really long introduction (nay disclaimer) at the start of the show, basically saying "you might not like this, if it does, then switch it off". I assumed that this would be in reference to the fact that by presenting the Anti Vaxx argument that he would get a lot of heat. But having listened to it, I think it was more in reference to the accusations of "being a shill" that will no doubt follow the posting of this show.

I was interested to hear what they would say about the Vaxxed documentary - the documentary about a CDC (Centre For Disease Control) whistleblower William Thompson, who claims that the original safety tests carried out on the MMR vaccine were deliberately skewed, so as to make it look as though there was no link to Autism. This documentary got a lot of airtime a few years back, as it was backed by Robert De Niro, who's child was diagnosed with Autism after getting a vaccine.

For a conspiracy show, I thought they would have been a bit open minded about the thing. But they had one academic chap in the room, who basically shut down and smugly belittles any argument against the "Vaccines have saved mankind and are definitely, definitely, definitely not anything to do with Autism" mindset. I thought at the least that they would be interested in the whistleblower testifying to Congress (which is what people are now looking for), but they just spent their time discrediting him.

I always find it odd - When Robert De Niro comes and berates Trump, it's wall to wall on the media. When Robert De Niro comes out and says that his child was damaged by a vaccine, it's buried.

Ipso · 30-06-2019 10:38pm

Maybe it’s not buried and he’s just ignorant on the subject.

jeremyj1968 · 01-07-2019 7:28pm

Just looked up the website on that episode, seeing as how you people were giving me nothing :-)

Other listeners are similarly unhappy with the episode.

Sandra Dee 15/06/2019 at 7:35 pm
gordo’s got gotten to, then. vaccines are a eugenics program. anyone who can expose sandy hook to the length tcg did would also see right away that vaccines are a twisted and experimental program.

Louise 26/06/2019 at 11:30 am
yeah absolute boll0cks! Some ****ing research you did! uk governments own statistics state that your child is more at risk from a serious life threatening reaction to measles vaccine than they are from having a serious complication from measles itself also cross check NHS website for high risk times for cot death against vaccination schedule! Even if you ignore risk of austism your child is more likely to die of cot death in the 72 hours following a vaccination!!!!
….oh and that impression you did (twice!!!!) of the baby girl having a fit…..f$ck me! Really???????

If anybody wants to have a conversation about the topic, I'm available on skype for a fee of 100 euro an hour. That's half what Gordo charges for an hour long conversation, and I won't even try to shake you down for money for my next holiday to the States.

jeremyj1968 · 19-07-2019 8:05pm

Gordo was on with Adrian Kennedy to talk about the moon landing (hoax).

https://www.98fm.com/podcasts/98fm-39-s-dublin-talks/someone-really-land-moon

Not his greatest performance, not as on point as he usually is.

Cheerful Spring2 · 21-07-2019 5:40pm

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

I listened to the 9/11 one this morning, Lough, and it was good. Split in four parts. The two guys are actually quite funny and likeable. Also listened to the Las Vegas shooting. thumbs up so far.

I think about 90-120 minutes would nearly be my preferred time for a podcast. 5 hours is way too long, but sometimes just 60 minutes is not enough. I've tried listening to a lot of these "Conspiracy" type podcasts, and this is the first one in a long time where the presenters haven't turned me off within five minutes!

9/11 was good, some of shows are too long winded for me though. They waffle off subject too many times. If you doing a conspiracy show keep on track.

Overheal · 21-07-2019 7:47pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

9/11 was good, some of shows are too long winded for me though. They waffle off subject too many times. If you doing a conspiracy show keep on track.

Ah too be fair, you do have kind of a one track mind on 9/11 and not everyone else does

Cheerful Spring2 · 21-07-2019 8:54pm

Overheal wrote: »

Ah too be fair, you do have kind of a one track mind on 9/11 and not everyone else does

True and accept this.

I have seen enough over the years to discount major parts of the official story about 9/11. When senior FBI agents claim also there was cover ups and ommissions and lies were told, you then have to revalulate your position about the topic. They have no reason to lie about investigations they were involved with. Even congressional senate meetings after 9/11 found Saudi links to 9/11 and none of these links were fully investigated. We had this pantomime like show later blaming Iraq for 9/11.

generalgerry · 03-01-2020 12:01am

There are a few live podcasts from last year that were uploaded over the Christmas in case anybody is interested. He's a good speaker, but the one thing that really gets to me is how gratuitously crude and disgusting he is. For example, "you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube" to Gordo is "you can't put the sh1t back in the horse". Now that's mild, but it's indicative of his preference to shock rather than simply make a point. The stuff that he said about the boys sitting on the end of Michael Jackson's bed - just gratuitously disgusting as well. I won't repeat the phrases here as I will probably get banned. If there is ever the choice of the word "toothpaste" or the word "sh1t" he will always use the latter, while rummaging through his head for something worse. It's a relatively small thing but if you want to be taken serious about issues like 9/11 and Sandy Hook, you should not speak like you are a ten year old boy in the back of the car trying to get your ma angry.

I think it must be difficult for him since his sidekick left a while back. Paul was a good contributor to the show and he was very funny and entertaining, so to carry the show all by himself is a big ask.

gerrybbadd · 03-01-2020 12:18pm

Did Gordo ever go to the US after all the begging?

I listened to this Podcast for ages, but when Paul left, things went downhill, before the constant & lengthy Patreon reminders even kicked in.

Loughc · 03-01-2020 12:48pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Did Gordo ever go to the US after all the begging?

I listened to this Podcast for ages, but when Paul left, things went downhill, before the constant & lengthy Patreon reminders even kicked in.

I don’t think he did. The begging and then aggressive rants for when he didn’t get his way put me right off the show.

Imagine complaining cause he was saying they couldn’t afford to go unless they cover his girlfriends salary as well as operational expenses. If he was that serious he’d go himself but it just seemed like a giant jolly for himself and his missus on the back of the Patreon’s money.

generalgerry · 05-01-2020 10:55pm

Loughc wrote: »

I don’t think he did. The begging and then aggressive rants for when he didn’t get his way put me right off the show.

I'm not sure where he is with the tour of America, but he said in one of the more recent podcasts that his plan is to have a lot of speaking events across Ireland and UK in 2020. Like I said, he is a confident speaker, but the live sessions seem to be pretty rambling - usually involving him outlining the scuttlebutt or hearsay about certain conspiracies, inserting a very crude joke, and then saying "I mean, that **** is bananas".

And don't get me wrong, it must be a huge thing to carry on your own. Particularly with how he has been messed around by the social media channels (having to upload the content to different platforms on multiple occasions), and trying to prepare the entire content on your own.

I'm just not sure how he progresses it from where he's got it too.

DublinWriter · 07-01-2020 12:59pm

http://www.oymradio.com/

Two dubs living in Meath - these guys shut up shop last year, but there's about 5 years worth of podcasts archived on their site. A lot of it is whackado, but some interesting interviews.

generalgerry · 29-03-2020 10:54am

First update in two months last week. Agenda 21, which was recorded over a year ago. With a disclaimer at the start to say "this was recorded before the Coronavirus, so we obviously won't be discussing that during this podcast". He said that he's busy with other stuff, but the podcast has been really let slide. I think the one big advantage of podcasting is the immediacy and ability to get right on top of a breaking story. Putting up old podcasts really takes from this.

You would have thought that now would be the time when he should be making hay. He won't get a bigger conspiracy story, but hasn't put up one podcast in relation to the story!

Dohnjoe · 01-04-2020 12:05pm

generalgerry wrote: »

You would have thought that now would be the time when he should be making hay. He won't get a bigger conspiracy story, but hasn't put up one podcast in relation to the story!

Or perhaps he's had the earth-shattering revelation that making stuff up and pretending it's real is not exactly the right hobby to have right now considering the circumstances

Loughc · 01-04-2020 3:00pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Or perhaps he's had the earth-shattering revelation that making stuff up and pretending it's real is not exactly the right hobby to have right now considering the circumstances

Woah hold on. Bigfoot isn’t real?

Aisling(",) · 09-04-2020 1:45pm

generalgerry wrote: »

First update in two months last week. Agenda 21, which was recorded over a year ago. With a disclaimer at the start to say "this was recorded before the Coronavirus, so we obviously won't be discussing that during this podcast". He said that he's busy with other stuff, but the podcast has been really let slide. I think the one big advantage of podcasting is the immediacy and ability to get right on top of a breaking story. Putting up old podcasts really takes from this.

You would have thought that now would be the time when he should be making hay. He won't get a bigger conspiracy story, but hasn't put up one podcast in relation to the story!

I think they mentioned it in the early episodes like SandyHook that they didn't want to do things as they were happening because you cant get a full picture at the time.

I could be wrong on this but think there was a live chat or will be a live chat about corona virus.

I wasn't mad on the subject matter of Agenda 21 but I thought it was a grand easy listen because they all seemed to be enjoying themselves.

YFlyer · 11-04-2020 12:53pm

A nice money earner.

redbuck · 19-05-2020 10:44pm

Started listening to this a few months ago and enjoyed the early episodes but the impressions and zany voices and tangents killed it off for me. I feel like slapping Gordo, Ed Sammon is great though.

Did he actually make the 12 documentaries?

Loughc · 25-05-2020 5:13pm

redbuck wrote: »

Started listening to this a few months ago and enjoyed the early episodes but the impressions and zany voices and tangents killed it off for me. I feel like slapping Gordo, Ed Sammon is great though.

Did he actually make the 12 documentaries?

LOL no he did not, TCG has turned into a right mess lately and has lost an awful lot of steam since his paid holiday fell through.

redbuck · 25-05-2020 8:38pm

Loughc wrote: »

LOL no he did not, TCG has turned into a right mess lately and has lost an awful lot of steam since his paid holiday feel through.

I listened to the Brittany Murphy and Chris Benoit episodes when they were released and he sounded bored throughout them.

Did he actually go to America at all?

I tried listening to the Ted Bundy episode a few weeks ago and it’s possibly possibly some of the worst broadcasting I’ve ever listened to, I couldn’t get passed 45 minutes.

As an aside I listened to some episodes of the Casefile pod I seen recommenced by someone on this thread and it’s excellent, has anyone else got any recommendations for true crime podcasts?

Beechwoodspark · 25-05-2020 8:46pm

What was the story - he wanted the listeners to fund his American holiday?

Beechwoodspark · 25-05-2020 8:50pm

What was the story - he wanted the listeners to fund his American holiday?

redbuck · 25-05-2020 8:53pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

What was the story - he wanted the listeners to fund his American holiday?

He set up a patreon to try and earn €50,000 I think, I could be wrong on that figure to go to America with his girlfriend for a year and make 12 documentaries which he planned to sell to Netflix.

I think that he ran in to trouble initially because he didn’t realise the visa restrictions would be hard to get around and he didn’t manage to raise the money as far as I’m aware. He was planning on going for a shorter period of time but I don’t know what happened next or if he actually went.

He was getting annoyed on the shows because people weren’t meeting his financial donation goal.

The whole thing came across as a total vanity project.

Beechwoodspark · 25-05-2020 8:55pm

redbuck wrote: »

He set up a patreon to try and earn €50,000 I think, I could be wrong on that figure to go to America with his girlfriend for a year and make 12 documentaries which he planned to sell to Netflix.

I think that he ran in to trouble initially because he didn’t realise the visa restrictions would be hard to get around and he didn’t manage to raise the money as far as I’m aware. He was planning on going for a shorter period of time but I don’t know what happened next or if he actually went.

He was getting annoyed on the shows because people weren’t meeting his financial donation goal.

The whole thing came across as a total vanity project.

I vaguely remember that from one of the episodes

You could hear it in the tone of his voice that he was one step away from throwing a tantrum over the lack of generosity !

Loughc · 25-05-2020 9:39pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I vaguely remember that from one of the episodes

You could hear it in the tone of his voice that he was one step away from throwing a tantrum over the lack of generosity !

He did throw a fit on social media back when the gofundme thing started and no one was contributing.

He went on a big rant how his girlfriend was taking a career break fro teaching to go with him so he needed to cover her salary as well as other costs. Like it’s not anyone’s problem they didn’t plan or saved up for the trip properly.

He thought the downloads they got would equal serious cash but he’s wrong. Podcasts do so well on downloads as they’re free that’s all to it.

Ipso · 26-05-2020 12:50am

Grifter’s gotta grift

redbuck · 26-05-2020 8:18am

Loughc wrote: »

He did throw a fit on social media back when the gofundme thing started and no one was contributing.

He went on a big rant how his girlfriend was taking a career break fro teaching to go with him so he needed to cover her salary as well as other costs. Like it’s not anyone’s problem they didn’t plan or saved up for the trip properly.

He thought the downloads they got would equal serious cash but he’s wrong. Podcasts do so well on downloads as they’re free that’s all to it.

I never realised that he wanted to cover his girlfriends salary too.

I see on the $50 tier on Patreon that those members get early access to the documentaries so I’m assuming he’s still planning on making them.

Loughc · 26-05-2020 10:10am

redbuck wrote: »

I never realised that he wanted to cover his girlfriends salary too.

I see on the $50 tier on Patreon that those members get early access to the documentaries so I’m assuming he’s still planning on making them.

He’ll probably will try again in 2021. Not a chance it will happen unless a studio offer to fund it for him. Which they won’t.

redbuck · 26-05-2020 1:33pm

I dont really understand why he feels the need to make the documentaries even

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