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12-09-2019, 09:55   #2221
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Disappointing but hopefully it is indeed temporary and that a continuing crisis in Hong Kong doesnt leave it permanently suspended.

What are the odds that Dublin airport could see a decline in passenger numbers this winter vs last?
I would say doubtful, dublin airport is up about +6% YTD, very impressive numbers. Even the flights they have lost recently will probably be compensated by growth on other routes. Even UK is still slightly up vs last year despite all that is going on.
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12-09-2019, 09:56   #2222
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I think Dublin airport might exceed 33 million passengers this year
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12-09-2019, 11:12   #2223
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Route to stop in November and will reopen as normal in March.

https://fora.ie/cathay-pacific-suspe...05679-Sep2019/
Intended to repoprn in March. Cathay has seen worldwide passenger volumes decease by nearly 40% over the past three months. There are greater systemic challenges at play that the Dublin routes and the daytime European routes which it has suspended.
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12-09-2019, 12:18   #2224
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Is it people avoiding HK due to the protests ?
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12-09-2019, 12:20   #2225
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People need to understand yield versus load factor. There is absolutely no point quoting that a flight was full. Filling a flight with backpackers on discounted fares is not going to make any money. Cathay is full service and has the costs associated with that. It needs high rev up front, belly cargo and yield down the back to turn a profit. It needs to do this across its entire network. Cathay as an airline is suffering financially as part of the wider Swire Group and has been struggling for at least the last 5 years. The current HK unrest is just adding fuel to the fire. I would expect it needs to restructure in order to survive and cut capacity.
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12-09-2019, 13:20   #2226
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Yes I understand yield vs load factor. A lot of business people use that route and business class always full. I dont think it tends to be a backpacker type route from people I know that travel it frequently
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I imagine that things will get a lot better once the longer runway is available. Airlines will be able to carry more freight as it doesn't give out on social media when its delayed or offloaded. Cathay and others have had to leave cargo behind on occasions.
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Yes I understand yield vs load factor. A lot of business people use that route and business class always full. I dont think it tends to be a backpacker type route from people I know that travel it frequently
I think it's always much cheaper to fly non direct to KL as a backpacker. Once there you're at an AirAsia hub.
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Read elsewhere Cathay's forward bookings are down 40% across the network vs this time last year.
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Anyone know what’s up with TC-JRU? Operated IST-DUB this evening and landed 20 minutes late, was due to be a 1630 departure but now seems to be cancelled? A 20 min delay would hardly cos the crew to go out of hours would it?
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Surprised to hear an ad on Radio One's Morning Ireland this morning for Cathay Pacific and offering flights to the east if it's been suspended for the winter.
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Anyone know what’s up with TC-JRU? Operated IST-DUB this evening and landed 20 minutes late, was due to be a 1630 departure but now seems to be cancelled? A 20 min delay would hardly cos the crew to go out of hours would it?
My guess is it's gone tech? That flight regularly lands 20+ minutes late (usually on time to 15 mins late though) but it still operates the outbound. Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be an A330 replacement on tomorrow's morning flight, that sometimes happens when one of the flights is cancelled. At the moment it looks like the morning flight will have a 737-800 and an A321neo on the afternoon one but last minute swaps can happen I suppose, just like both of my return flights a month ago!

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Surprised to hear an ad on Radio One's Morning Ireland this morning for Cathay Pacific and offering flights to the east if it's been suspended for the winter.
Heard it on Today Fm earlier. They're LFs are apparently down across the board with the recent protests so they're probably trying to get any kind of business they can.
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Surprised to hear an ad on Radio One's Morning Ireland this morning for Cathay Pacific and offering flights to the east if it's been suspended for the winter.

I also heard that ad.
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By coincidence I booked cx306 yesterday with Avios in J for just next month
That should be the crack
Had the pleasure some years back of going on honeymoon on CX in J to HKG and on to SYD

Only thing that would have made it perfect was going direct from DUB avoiding the hop over to LHR in cattle class.
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