Will Joe be Gone Til November like Wyclef Jean? Liveline: 17/09/2019 to date

daveorourke77 · 17-09-2019 2:09pm

This woman clearly hasnt gone through the mental health system.

If it was that simple nobody would die by suicide.

It's like saying if you have cancer then you wont die if you see a cancer specialist.

DoctorEdgeWild · 17-09-2019 2:09pm

She might not be too popular.

Roger_007 · 17-09-2019 2:11pm

DoctorEdgeWild wrote: »

She might not be too popular.

She has plenty not to be popular about.

17-09-2019 2:11pm

Get Catherine off the air, she doesn't know what shes talking about.

daveorourke77 · 17-09-2019 2:11pm

This woman is speaking in cliches.

Odyssey 2005 · 17-09-2019 2:11pm

This is buzzin

17-09-2019 2:12pm

Roger_007 wrote: »

I knew a young lad, 23yo, who committed suicide. When I spoke to his mother the first thing she said was "How could he do this to us?".
I was disgusted!

I wouldn't blame her for the initial anger, it's part of grief, but I'm pretty sure that eventually passed. I hope so. Lifelong anger is a grim pit to fall into.

Lets see how many people bereaved by suicide in their nuclear family will call those people "selfish" and "thoughtless" on today's programme? I imagine most of that brigade, like Catherine, will have very limited experience.

joe316 · 17-09-2019 2:13pm

Thankfully ive no direct experience of mental illness but this one hasnt a clue. I dont know how the other caller can keep their calm, sure with the opinion that a walk would cure them what hope do they have in this one's view.

2smiggy · 17-09-2019 2:13pm

who ever thought yesterdays was in the top 20 worst, there is plenty of competition today

daveorourke77 · 17-09-2019 2:13pm

Another ignoramus

17-09-2019 2:14pm

Speedy Gonzalez, your point please.

McDermotX · 17-09-2019 2:14pm

Ah......dis is sh1te !

Out of here...........Someone get the lights.

ShamNNspace · 17-09-2019 2:15pm

daveorourke77 wrote: »

ShamNNspace wrote: »

How is this conversation helping anyone?
I wonder could saying "it takes tremendous courage to take your own life" have ticked a box for someone listening and edged them nearer to the rope or to the river

Is writing an article calling tham thoughtless and selfish going to stop them?

Nobody knows everyone is different... Who knows only the person themselves what could tipp the balance towards taking that final drastic step

daveorourke77 · 17-09-2019 2:15pm

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Katie,like Duffy is not capable or qualified to talk about this subject.

neither are most of the callers

Odyssey 2005 · 17-09-2019 2:16pm

I decided last night to give up the demon drink. This could be a short lived hiatus.

17-09-2019 2:17pm

daveorourke77 wrote: »

Is writing an article calling tham thoughtless and selfish going to stop them?

Exactly

"Suicidal? Here's what a shít person you are.."

FFS

Roger_007 · 17-09-2019 2:18pm

ShamNNspace wrote: »

Nobody knows everyone is different... Who knows only the person themselves what could tipp the balance towards taking that final drastic step

I don't think that airing this stuff on the radio is going to make any difference to the rate of suicide. It might even be counter-productive.

Odyssey 2005 · 17-09-2019 2:18pm

I dont want to make this about me...but I'll tell you anyway

Odyssey 2005 · 17-09-2019 2:18pm

Duffy must be very proud of katie.

17-09-2019 2:18pm

I hope Catherine gets a serious dose of vaginal thrush. One that lasts a good 6 weeks. What are you complaining about Catherine? There's treatment available.

Odyssey 2005 · 17-09-2019 2:20pm

Big reaction..yeah right.

daveorourke77 · 17-09-2019 2:20pm

Roger_007 wrote: »

I don't think that airing this stuff on the radio is going to make any difference to the rate of suicide. It might even be counter-productive.

I can understand if it was a conversation that was constructive.

Quoting and writing newspaper articles that suggest that people are thoughtless or selfish is completely unhelpful.

Odyssey 2005 · 17-09-2019 2:21pm

Finally someone qualified to speak.

17-09-2019 2:21pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I hope Catherine gets a serious dose of vaginal thrush. One that lasts a good 6 weeks. What are you complaining about Catherine? There's treatment available.

Bear in mind Catherine, that the medication might never work, and the public health system doesn't have enough resources to be effective, so you'll probably have to pay for your own treatment -- but the important thing is that it is theoretically possible.

Roger_007 · 17-09-2019 2:21pm

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Big reaction..yeah right.

As Joe would say "A slew of calls came in".

(A 'slew' is more than one).

2smiggy · 17-09-2019 2:22pm

Joe would like to know more about the hanging !!

Odyssey 2005 · 17-09-2019 2:22pm

Katie let him speak you silly ....

daveorourke77 · 17-09-2019 2:22pm

Why gloss over the details?

He was cut off.

17-09-2019 2:23pm

2smiggy wrote: »

Joe would like to know more about the hanging !!

You're joking but you're also not

Odyssey 2005 · 17-09-2019 2:23pm

Katie manufacturer of bad lines because she doesn't like his train of speech.

17-09-2019 2:24pm

Thats quite enough of that.

I'd rather do my tax return than listen to anymore of that.

Catherine and her well thought out argument of "I just agree with the article and thats that".

Where's Brush Shiels when you need him to inject some "comedy" into the day?

Gwynplaine · 17-09-2019 2:24pm

Seriously. Where is Joe?

Odyssey 2005 · 17-09-2019 2:24pm

He didnt loose his son Katie, his son HUNG himself

daveorourke77 · 17-09-2019 2:25pm

Roger_007 wrote: »

I don't think that airing this stuff on the radio is going to make any difference to the rate of suicide. It might even be counter-productive.

So do we ignore or bury the topic? How is the issue to be addressed?

daveorourke77 · 17-09-2019 2:26pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Thats quite enough of that.

I'd rather do my tax return than listen to anymore of that.

Catherine and her well thought out argument of "I just agree with the article and thats that".

Where's Brush Shiels when you need him to inject some "comedy" into the day?

The level of ignorance surrounding this issue is astounding.

Odyssey 2005 · 17-09-2019 2:26pm

Two silly bints dancing around with nice words

TheRiverman · 17-09-2019 2:26pm

A ****,Katie has gone all Joe and stopped that man from giving details.Well done to that woman for saying that people should be allowed to express their views in the language they want.

BPKS · 17-09-2019 2:26pm

Gwynplaine wrote: »

Seriously. Where is Joe?

Working on a documentary paid for by RTE to promote his new book

daveorourke77 · 17-09-2019 2:26pm

Where's the man who lost his son?

17-09-2019 2:27pm

Katie opening a bottle of Corona there

Odyssey 2005 · 17-09-2019 2:27pm

This one saying what fungus told her to say now.;)

Odyssey 2005 · 17-09-2019 2:28pm

daveorourke77 wrote: »

Where's the man who lost his son?

His experiences of sewerside is too raw for Katie.

TheRiverman · 17-09-2019 2:30pm

The cynic in me says that man was cut off deliberately by RTE.

daveorourke77 · 17-09-2019 2:30pm

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

His experiences of sewerside is too raw for Katie.

Katie doesn't like to hear what actually happened?

She'd rather have it dressed up in flowery language that doesn't cause offence.

daveorourke77 · 17-09-2019 2:31pm

TheRiverman wrote: »

The cynic in me says that man was cut off deliberately by RTE.

Of course he was. He was getting to the point. RTE can't be having that.

Odyssey 2005 · 17-09-2019 2:32pm

daveorourke77 wrote: »

Katie doesn't like to hear what actually happened?

She'd rather have it dressed uo in flowery language that doesnt cause offence.

I was screaming at the radio. Putting a muzzle on him. Disgraceful

Roger_007 · 17-09-2019 2:33pm

daveorourke77 wrote: »

So do we ignore or bury the topic? How is the issue to be addressed?

It matters not a bit whether we address it or don't address it. Some people will still commit suicide; it has always been the case and always will.
I've heard it discussed many times in the media. Many government agencies and charities have been set up. There have been advertising campaigns.
It has made no difference. Anyone who is determined to commit suicide will do so. It is a sad fact of life.

daveorourke77 · 17-09-2019 2:33pm

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

I was screaming at the radio. Putting a muzzle on him. Disgraceful

I felt the same. It's hard enough to discuss these things without someone trying to shut you up.

17-09-2019 2:33pm

TheRiverman wrote: »

The cynic in me says that man was cut off deliberately by RTE.

It was he who was saying he had a bad line, not KH though.

I don't think Katie was asking him not to say 'hanging' per se, I think she was wary of him going beyond that and getting into further detail.

There are probably people listening to this who are very distressed and may have even found their own loved ones. I can see where she's coming from. It's the exact opposite to what Joe would have done.

2smiggy · 17-09-2019 2:34pm

listening to this is not going to make anyone anyway better anyway !

Will Joe be Gone Til November like Wyclef Jean? Liveline: 17/09/2019 to date

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