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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,141 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Nokia6230i wrote: »
    Thinking of buying a pocket digital radio if such a thing exists; new soccer season's coming up & Today FM no no longer have rights to broadcast Premier League Live from 2 to 6 on a Saturday afternoon so.........


    .....is BBC Radio 5 Live available on DAB here in Ireland?

    Anyone know, given their soccer commentaries (and boxing, MMA/UFC, rugby union & league etc.) are geoblocked on my laptop will they also be geo blocked on a DAB Radio?

    No point me investing in a DAB Radio if BBC Radio 5 Live can't be got here and if games're unavailable in your region; same for Talk Sport.


    bbc 5 live isn't available on dab in the ROI.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,907 ✭✭✭✭Dan Jaman


    Nokia6230i wrote: »
    .....is BBC Radio 5 Live available on DAB here in Ireland?


    Depends on how portable you need it to be.
    If portability is not needed, high quality BBC R5L is trivially available via Freesat in RoI.
    If you're anywhere near the East Coast, the quality of R5L and Talksport is variable but listenable in the evenings on Medium Wave.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭turbocab


    bbc 5 live isn't available on dab in the ROI.
    its available on 693khz,909khz,and 990khz am,best on east coast or near northern ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,459 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Nokia6230i wrote: »
    Thinking of buying a pocket digital radio if such a thing exists; new soccer season's coming up & Today FM no no longer have rights to broadcast Premier League Live from 2 to 6 on a Saturday afternoon so.........


    .....is BBC Radio 5 Live available on DAB here in Ireland?

    Anyone know, given their soccer commentaries (and boxing, MMA/UFC, rugby union & league etc.) are geoblocked on my laptop will they also be geo blocked on a DAB Radio?

    No point me investing in a DAB Radio if BBC Radio 5 Live can't be got here and if games're unavailable in your region; same for Talk Sport.

    Tunein on your phone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Nokia6230i


    corcaigh07 wrote: »
    Tunein on your phone?

    One; I've no Smartphone (Tech Luddite!).

    Two; my concern would be if I did buy a Smartphone and went for Tune In, something that's been suggested to me offline also, it'd still be geo blocked.....?

    As I say I'm only looking for options (Combo Box for home listening's on the long finger for quite some time now; that will resolve that aspect) for on the move.

    If someone using Tune In on their Smartphone or other portable/mobile device and could guarantee me that without need for a VPN/Hola etc. I could listen to BBC Radio 5 Lives Soccer Commentaries (and Boxing, UFC/MMA, Golf, Rugby/6 Nations etc.) then I'd go get myself a Smartphone purely for the Tune In option.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 coggy79


    TuneIn block commentaries for PL games as i tried numerous times last season on 5 live and Talksport. VPN is the only way but many are limited.

    Does anyone know if any other radio station in ROI have the rights to the PL on Saturdays??


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Anglers


    Eirdab cork have stopped broadcasting as 12 month trial finishes. Only Dab services in cork is RTE on Dab Mix 1 and FreeDab block 5A


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    Are the test blocks 5A and 5B still running in Dublin?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 A Teddy bear


    Anglers wrote: »
    Eirdab cork have stopped broadcasting as 12 month trial finishes. Only Dab services in cork is RTE on Dab Mix 1 and FreeDab block 5A

    Sure all eirdab had was a couple of crappy religious stations and a college station.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    coggy79 wrote: »
    TuneIn block commentaries for PL games as i tried numerous times last season on 5 live and Talksport. VPN is the only way but many are limited.

    Does anyone know if any other radio station in ROI have the rights to the PL on Saturdays??
    Are they available with an old uk sky card in an old sky box?
    I have them on UK Dab in Arklow, so no restrictions but am obviously in a good signal area for that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,907 ✭✭✭✭Dan Jaman


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Are they available with an old uk sky card in an old sky box?
    I have them on UK Dab in Arklow, so no restrictions but am obviously in a good signal area for that


    R5L is on Freesat. I assume the PL commentary is on that, as it's the normal UK service.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,251 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    coggy79 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if any other radio station in ROI have the rights to the PL on Saturdays??
    Today FM have had it for years unless something has changed this season. Newstalk do Sundays.


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    flazio wrote: »
    Today FM have had it for years unless something has changed this season. Newstalk do Sundays.

    Today FMs contract finished at the end of last season and they either cant get the rights or aren't bothered! I too, wonder who will get the rights for Saturdays! Would have thought Newstalk but maybe its too expensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    Nokia6230i wrote: »
    corcaigh07 wrote: »
    Tunein on your phone?

    One; I've no Smartphone (Tech Luddite!).

    Two; my concern would be if I did buy a Smartphone and went for Tune In, something that's been suggested to me offline also, it'd still be geo blocked.....?

    As I say I'm only looking for options (Combo Box for home listening's on the long finger for quite some time now; that will resolve that aspect) for on the move.

    If someone using Tune In on their Smartphone or other portable/mobile device and could guarantee me that without need for a VPN/Hola etc. I could listen to BBC Radio 5 Lives Soccer Commentaries (and Boxing, UFC/MMA, Golf, Rugby/6 Nations etc.) then I'd go get myself a Smartphone purely for the Tune In option.


    Talksport 1 & 2 don't seem to be geo blocked, Leeds and Notts Forest was not blocked earlier and Palace v Everton isn't blocked right now, listening via the " Listen Live " option on Talksport website.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Maybe it's different for Premier league games?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    Maybe it's different for Premier league games?

    I'm not with you, Palace v Everton IS a Premier League game and it wasn't geo blocked this afternoon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Nokia6230i


    Was pleasantly surprised to be able to listen to TalkSport & BBC Radio 5 Live today on both laptop & newly opened, two year old Smartphone (had to get Vodafone assistant to D/L the apps for me though......that's how much of a Tech Luddite I am!).

    Back to FM tomorrow thoiugh; Newstalk from 2 & 4:30pm til 7 with Sunday Double Headers for next 3 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 John the anorak


    peking97 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if RTE have any plans to extend their DAB radio coverage?

    I'd wager that it's more likely for RTE to announce the closure of their dab network rather than expand it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Met somebody recently who was bitterly disappointed at not being able to receive his beloved BBCs on a DAB radio which had been given to him as a gift, specially for BBC radio (he lives in Dublin) :(

    Oh dear.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    galtee boy wrote: »
    I'm not with you, Palace v Everton IS a Premier League game and it wasn't geo blocked this afternoon.

    Hopefully that will continue. I've never been able to listen to premiership games online without a vpn. I get a repeated "We're sorry but for rights reasons..." message on loop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Nokia6230i


    Hopefully that will continue. I've never been able to listen to premiership games online without a vpn. I get a repeated "We're sorry but for rights reasons..." message on loop.

    As of last weekend & this weekend TalkSport isn't geoblocked; the thing is I don't know if it'll last so unsure if to get used to it or not.

    Currently listening to Arsenal v Burnley where it's 1-1; it's not Today FM but this is our new normal in Ireland til at least the 2022/2023 season since radio rights're on a 3 year/season basis as per something a presenter said on Off the Ball when they were discussing their Sunday Premier League coverage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 John the anorak


    Met somebody recently who was bitterly disappointed at not being able to receive his beloved BBCs on a DAB radio which had been given to him as a gift, specially for BBC radio (he lives in Dublin) :(

    Oh dear.
    A lot of Irish people seem to have the misconception that DAB is the equivalent of sky/cable for radio


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Nokia6230i wrote: »
    As of last weekend & this weekend TalkSport isn't geoblocked; the thing is I don't know if it'll last so unsure if to get used to it or not.

    Currently listening to Arsenal v Burnley where it's 1-1; it's not Today FM but this is our new normal in Ireland til at least the 2022/2023 season since radio rights're on a 3 year/season basis as per something a presenter said on Off the Ball when they were discussing their Sunday Premier League coverage.

    Yep, Arsenal v Burnley is working fine on my phone. I would be amazed if Today FM ever broadcasts a live football match again. The station has dumbed down so much, it's a miracle it lasted as long as it did. They'd scrap The Last Word too if they could.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,898 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    A lot of Irish people seem to have the misconception that DAB is the equivalent of sky/cable for radio


    But surely even if it were it would have to plugged into a satellite dish or cable, not freestanding on the kitchen worktop?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    But surely even if it were it would have to plugged into a satellite dish or cable, not freestanding on the kitchen worktop?

    DAB radio is purely terrestrial, in other words it gives you the choice of stations broadcasting on DAB within range.....

    If you want BBC radio, or any other station outside the ROI then you really need an internet radio, or just use an app on your phone/tablet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    A smart speaker does the job too. Sometimes I see the small Google one for sale for €30. They're handy in that they free up your phone and you don't have to be relying on its speakers for the sound. A phone and a bluetooth speaker would work either.

    DAB in Ireland is dead. Once we get proper internet connectivity nationwide, that'll be that. Newer cars have apps that integrate nicely with smartphones and make listening to different radio stations painless. Those will trickle down over time as well. If DAB didn't expand before this, it never will.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭radioguru02


    A smart speaker does the job too. Sometimes I see the small Google one for sale for €30. They're handy in that they free up your phone and you don't have to be relying on its speakers for the sound. A phone and a bluetooth speaker would work either.

    DAB in Ireland is dead. Once we get proper internet connectivity nationwide, that'll be that. Newer cars have apps that integrate nicely with smartphones and make listening to different radio stations painless. Those will trickle down over time as well. If DAB didn't expand before this, it never will.

    Hit the nail on the head there. Even with these FreeDAB muxes in one small area in Cork and now in Louth too afaik the aux cable in the car is already actively used in Ireland and offers the user every streaming service on the net to choose from


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Nokia6230i


    Before I invest in one, would TalkSport be available over here on DAB?

    Getting used to its soccer coverage (unlike BBCs it's not geoblocked) and set up smartphone purely to listen to it about a month ago but would rather an actual radio.

    AM/MW's no good to me unless anyone recommends a specific radio but if it's on DAB I'd rather go that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,141 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Nokia6230i wrote: »
    Before I invest in one, would TalkSport be available over here on DAB?

    Getting used to its soccer coverage (unlike BBCs it's not geoblocked) and set up smartphone purely to listen to it about a month ago but would rather an actual radio.

    AM/MW's no good to me unless anyone recommends a specific radio but if it's on DAB I'd rather go that way.

    no uk stations are available on dab here in the ROI to the best of my knowledge.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Nokia6230i wrote: »
    Before I invest in one, would TalkSport be available over here on DAB?

    Getting used to its soccer coverage (unlike BBCs it's not geoblocked) and set up smartphone purely to listen to it about a month ago but would rather an actual radio.

    AM/MW's no good to me unless anyone recommends a specific radio but if it's on DAB I'd rather go that way.


    No. DAB's range is more limited than AM/FM. Depending on where you're living, you might not be even able to pick up Irish stations on DAB.



    Someone who owns an internet radio might be able to tell you how they fare if a game is geoblocked. I just use a bluetooth speaker and a VPN for geoblocked games. Haven't done so this season yet though - I've been busy when the games have been on.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭radioguru02


    Is the FreeDAB mux covering all of Cork City yet? In what other areas of the country is it on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭hustlergraham


    Is the FreeDAB mux covering all of Cork City yet? In what other areas of the country is it on?

    Yes pretty much. Sligo and Dundalk, and more counties to come I believe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭radioguru02


    Yes pretty much. Sligo and Donegal, and more counties to come I believe.

    What’s being carried on it do you know?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes pretty much. Sligo and Dundalk, and more counties to come I believe.

    Sligo? Haven’t heard of any dab trial here! Any link to information on it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Reports that Freedab for Dublin will be on air from this Saturday - Easy,90s Network, Trax, Phever,NRG , RetroNow amongst the stations that will be carried.

    (Source Easy Radio )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭Dipole Keith


    Is this freedab legal or illegal? Apart from anoraks who is going to listen. I have DAB in the car but that’s 182 and I find RTE very patchy in parts of Dublin and that’s from Three rock.


  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭hustlergraham


    Is this freedab legal or illegal? Apart from anoraks who is going to listen. I have DAB in the car but that’s 182 and I find RTE very patchy in parts of Dublin and that’s from Three rock.

    Good point. Time will tell I suppose. Legal or not I'd rather more than RTE on DAB. The independent stations don't give a toss about DAB. If this freedab takes off maybe they might. We are miles behind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 overseer


    DAB is a very efficient way to broadcast several stations from a single transmitter/mast, so the cost to air should be significantly lower therefore lowering the barriers to niche prospective stations/communities/cultures/artists/formats.

    This, of course, doesn't suit the current mainstream FM station owners who have gained expensive licences in the past (although these costs should have been already amortised).
    The consolidation of radio groups, increased automation/voicetracking and the tendency to mainstream their formats (remember the so-called Rock and Country licences?) serves the bean counters rather than the discerning listeners who deserve more than the current diet of so-called pop (playlist of 100 songs), 'classics' (same playlist with a smattering of mainstream 80s,90s, 00s) and endless chat shows.

    Back to DAB.... the cost and spectrum efficiencies can and should enable niche/community/event operations to flourish, the bitrate flexibility and DAB+ means a range of services from speech to high quality music can be simultaneously broadcast from a single multiplex. This is clearly demonstrated in Northern Ireland and the UK as well as many countries throughout Europe. The legislation already exists to facilitate a regulated DAB sector which could be thriving as is the case in many European jurisdictions.
    BAI simply needs to transpose existing regulations where necessary into Irish law, not a big issue if the political will exists to enforce their stated committment: 'We are committed to being an effective regulator, trusted by the public, broadcasters and legislators to serve the viewing and listening needs of the people of Ireland, now and in the future'.

    Official Ireland of course manages to block the democratisation of the airwaves with excessive regulation, huge up-front 'administrative' charges without justification and 5-month processing time of paperwork.

    The final nail in the coffin is the farcical situation where the representative body for aspirant broadcasters; the body which should be fearlessly campaigning for DAB and general improvements to the community sector is actually FUNDED by the regulator. This is an incredible situation for a regulated sector, crippling the very body which should be engaged in robust dialogue for the benefit of broadcasters and listeners alike.

    Does this situation exist in any other regulated industry? No disrespect to community radio stations but the way they're regulated/controlled financially I doubt any of them pay a living wage to anyone, never mind having funds to innovate technologically.

    This is the same BAI which now wants to regulate the online sector..... look at how few consultations they engage in and how poor their research compared to other regulators and judge them on present performance....

    Rant over :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,548 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Is this freedab legal or illegal? Apart from anoraks who is going to listen. I have DAB in the car but that’s 182 and I find RTE very patchy in parts of Dublin and that’s from Three rock.

    Illegal, neither a multiplex licence nor content licences for the stations. May be left mostly alone like other pirates or could also be targetted more due to a single site taking multiple outlets down


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭ITV2


    I noticed the DAB mux at Montrose is off air the past while. Has it finished it's trial?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭castle2012


    ITV2 wrote: »
    I noticed the DAB mux at Montrose is off air the past while. Has it finished it's trial?
    I think rte are broke according to the news today , it may have switched off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    castle2012 wrote: »
    I think rte are broke according to the news today , it may have switched off
    This was costing them very little if anything at all (free as proof of concept from supplier maybe?).

    Anyways, as usual there was resistance and little interest from the commercial stations, so many of the relays were blank.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 overseer


    Any update on the Dublin FreeDAB launch?

    Genuinely excited to hear a range of services with high quality on a new platform in Dublin :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭hustlergraham


    overseer wrote: »
    Any update on the Dublin FreeDAB launch?

    Genuinely excited to hear a range of services with high quality on a new platform in Dublin :)

    They are working on it today ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭castle2012


    overseer wrote: »
    Any update on the Dublin FreeDAB launch?

    Genuinely excited to hear a range of services with high quality on a new platform in Dublin :)

    They are working on it today ;)
    I did a scan on dab , nothing yet .I can't wait myself.i have a dab radio in the car , this could do well as alot of cars come with dab


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭radioguru02


    Cork FreeDAB list this afternoon:

    Phever
    NRGRadio
    RetroNow
    Trax (no audio)
    TrancePulse
    Total Country
    Easyradio
    Zenith Classic Rock
    Spektrum Radio (no audio)
    CoastDAB (Coast Radio, Canary Islands)


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭ITV2


    Here in West Dublin we have -

    Spectrum
    Trance Plus
    Trax
    Zenith
    Country
    Easy
    NRG Radio
    Phever
    RetroNow

    and the usual RTE services.


  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭hustlergraham


    ITV2 wrote: »
    Here in West Dublin we have -

    Spectrum
    Trance Plus
    Trax
    Zenith
    Country
    Easy
    NRG Radio
    Phever
    RetroNow

    and the usual RTE services.

    Woohoo!! I'm getting it too. Still testing I'd say as it's on and off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    ITV2 wrote: »
    Here in West Dublin we have -

    Spectrum
    Trance Plus
    Trax
    Zenith
    Country
    Easy
    NRG Radio
    Phever
    RetroNow

    and the usual RTE services.

    Any idea of the block number, please?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭hustlergraham


    Any idea of the block number, please?

    5D 180.064 MHz


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