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AEW - All Elite Wrestling (*Spoilers for Latest Show*)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Kenny McIntosh of Inside The Ropes retweeted this on Twitter from Ryan Satin, how true it is though, remains to be seen.

    https://twitter.com/KennyMc1985/status/1081333025449877504


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I know they have money but wonder if they have a tv deal lined up since I'm sure they would like an income of offering good money. Though didn't WCW offer good money? And that's a big part of what ruined TNA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    They definitely have money no doubting that but im taking all this news with pinches of salt so far till theres concrete news on signings or shows


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    CastorTroy wrote:
    I know they have money but wonder if they have a tv deal lined up since I'm sure they would like an income of offering good money. Though didn't WCW offer good money? And that's a big part of what ruined TNA

    They definitely have several TV offers, I'd believe that too.
    Good money is good for talent who could leverage an increase in pay, specifically in WWE where they are taking in a lot more money now. Plus they have over well 200 wrestlers on the books which even with good creative is far too much to use effectively.
    I think I could write a thesis on what ruined TNA but large contracts wouldn't be too high on that list of what killed them. It would be below bad management, creative, losing Spike & failing to get on an even remotely equivalently sized network since, email attachments, choice of the individuals hired, losing top talent, going live vs Raw years too soon, touring then without sufficient advertising and the key one developing a bad reputation for making basic errors due to not learning from past mistakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I know they have money but wonder if they have a tv deal lined up since I'm sure they would like an income of offering good money. Though didn't WCW offer good money? And that's a big part of what ruined TNA

    WCW ? WCW closed because Turner when they merged with AOL TIME warner merger decided to not want wrestling on their TV. WCW could have kept going but Bischoffs takeover bid would have had a TV deal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    WCW ? WCW closed because Turner when they merged with AOL TIME warner merger decided to not want wrestling on their TV. WCW could have kept going but Bischoffs takeover bid would have had a TV deal.

    What made WCW a success was money put into hiring nearly whoever they wanted up until 1998.
    Luchadors, ECW guys, technical wrestlers, most WWF guys & a working arangement with New Japan.
    They were going down the toilet tho. They made 30 million in 98 just 2 years later they lost twice that. Ratings and PPV's sunk.
    As much as Bischoff likes to talk about the reboot Big Bang PPV & the monthly tapings it wouldn't have been a success again. The name was tarnished & Turner wouldn't be there to sign anyone they felt they needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    ERG89 wrote: »
    What made WCW a success was money put into hiring nearly whoever they wanted up until 1998.
    Luchadors, ECW guys, technical wrestlers, most WWF guys & a working arangement with New Japan.
    They were going down the toilet tho. They made 30 million in 98 just 2 years later they lost twice that. Ratings and PPV's sunk.
    As much as Bischoff likes to talk about the reboot Big Bang PPV & the monthly tapings it wouldn't have been a success again. The name was tarnished & Turner wouldn't be there to sign anyone they felt they needed.

    I never said WCW wasn't successful, I'm talking about the WCW TV Deal that they lost. The reason that's relevant is because AEW might be the best thing since the sliced pan of wrestling since the 1950's have relied on TV coverage. Many wrestling territories survived because of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I never said WCW wasn't successful, I'm talking about the WCW TV Deal that they lost. The reason that's relevant is because AEW might be the best thing since the sliced pan of wrestling since the 1950's have relied on TV coverage. Many wrestling territories survived because of it.

    It depends on if you can fund it without TV. Probably not in the long run but possibly for a short while with a millionaire backer. If they get up and running successfully, getting good crowds, they’ll be an even more attractive proposition for TV. Though, playing devil’s advocate, I’m not sure there’s a big audience for wrestling on TV any more. WWE appear to get their deals due to the volume of content they provide but can AEW match that? I suspect not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    According to Dave Meltzer, All Elite Wrestling (AEW), ROH, and NJPW officials will be meeting later today (Saturday, January 5th) to discuss how they can all work together.

    With that being that, potential issues could arise with both ROH and AEW looking to sign some of the same wrestling talent to exclusive deals in the United States.

    We’ll keep you posted as we hear more.

    source: https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/report-aew-officials-reportedly-meeting-with-roh-and-njpw-this-weekend

    If true potential might be the understatement of the century in this context


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Any word on taping plans? Like are we talking weekly shows like WWE, whether live or recorded or block recordings like RoH and Impact. Maybe live PPV like early TNA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Any word on taping plans? Like are we talking weekly shows like WWE, whether live or recorded or block recordings like RoH and Impact. Maybe live PPV like early TNA.

    I'd say they'll announce it was at the rally along with omega, Daniels etc signing offical


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    Am I naive to think people mooting Kenny to WWE are a zillion miles off.

    AEW is a massive deal being started by his “friends”. Surely Omega is/was first name on the team sheet when it came to developing this new fed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    ShagNastii wrote: »
    Am I naive to think people mooting Kenny to WWE are a zillion miles off.

    AEW is a massive deal being started by his “friends”. Surely Omega is/was first name on the team sheet when it came to developing this new fed.

    AEW has the potential to be a massive deal.


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    ShagNastii wrote: »
    Am I naive to think people mooting Kenny to WWE are a zillion miles off.

    AEW is a massive deal being started by his “friends”. Surely Omega is/was first name on the team sheet when it came to developing this new fed.

    I agree. A few rumours he's off to WWE but I'd be shocked if he doesn't end up with his mates in AEW especially with it looking like they can offer a lot of money with their contracts.

    I can definitely see Jericho signing as well.

    I'm looking forward to seeing who shows up at the rally on Tuesday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    I think Tony will for into wrestling just fine

    https://twitter.com/TomRogers24/status/1081951057893355527?s=19


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭brianblaze


    sky88 wrote: »
    I think Tony will for into wrestling just fine

    https://twitter.com/TomRogers24/status/1081951057893355527?s=19

    I bet he called him a Mark


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    I would imagine if jericho was to sign that would be his bridges burned with Vince and co.

    I can imagine Conrad, Bischoff and Pritchard being involved somehow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    ricero wrote: »

    I can imagine Conrad, Bischoff and Pritchard being involved somehow


    God I hope not.


    We don’t need TNA mark 2.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The Khan family have confirmed their involvement in AEW

    Shad Khan statement
    I am the lead investor, a supporter and a backer of All Elite Wrestling, and I anticipate great things today and into the future for AEW and everyone who has worked passionately on this week’s launch. I know AEW will be welcomed by wrestling fans here in the U.S. and throughout the world who are ready for something new and authentic. AEW will work hard to deliver on that promise.

    As important, I am the father – the proud father – of Tony Khan, who will serve in a leadership role at AEW during the 2019 launch and in the years ahead. Tony will assemble a great team to take AEW over the top, for the benefit of everyone who loves the wrestling industry, while continuing to serve in his current capacities with the Jaguars and Fulham.

    AEW will operate as an organization completely independently from my other interests. It will not deter attention or divert resources from any of my businesses, teams, projects or investments. At the same time, AEW will enjoy the same full commitment I’ve given to everything and everyone in my life – my family and friends, my business and, in recent years, to sports, hospitality and now entertainment.

    Tony Khan statement
    Wrestling fans are a community unlike most others. I’ve been a part of this community since I was 7 years old, and I can tell you that wresting fans see the world every day through a special lens. We see wrestling in Hollywood films and tv shows, we see elements of wrestling in the presentation of sports and in the marketing of grandiose star athletes, and we certainly see wrestling in politics.

    The wrestling community is a constant; its members are diverse, we are physically located on all corners of the planet, yet we are constantly connected. Recently, a new family has formed, bonded by love and respect for wresting but armed with a vision and resources that have never before been available to the wrestling community. Our objective is to connect our community closer than ever before through All Elite Wrestling, or AEW.

    AEW does not mean any less of a continued commitment to existing obligations and duties that I have, or my family has, to our business and sports interests. That will never be the case. What’s important is that every individual decision we make as family, whether it’s ownership or investment in a team or property, is 100 percent beneficial to those specific interests. I will always welcome that accountability and responsibility, as nothing is more important than serving our supporters and friends.

    AEW will launch with a roster of the top wrestlers in the world. While they’ll clash in what will be some of the most intense and fast-paced contests ever sanctioned in the squared circle, they’ll also share a common goal: to make this the true golden age, to make this the greatest time ever to be a wrestling fan. Likewise, as a business, by treating our wrestlers with respect and warmth, we also seek to make this the golden age for the performers themselves.

    I urge everyone who believes in what we’re doing, or wants to believe in dreams coming true, to support AEW by spreading the word and passing the wrestling bug onto someone else. My message: Get in on the ground floor with AEW today and help lead our movement to grow the wrestling community and ensure that the voices of the wrestling fans, their creative minds and their remarkable ideas, will always be heard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    I just couldn't see Kenny O going the whole two years in NXT / graduate to mid card route. His reputation is golden with wrestling fans, if not the No. 1 wrestler in the world he's definitely in the top 5, I think if he has a chance at walking straight into WWE as a new major player after Mania (or even at Mania) he would have to consider that strongly, but how likely are the E to offer him that? Not very I would think.

    On the other hand NJPW / ROH / AEW have a legit opportunity of building something lasting of the back of All In last year, particularly if they could get a hold of the NWA Heavyweight belt as a kind of Indie Superbelt (as it always was in the golden era). Defended at Supercards / champ tours around, etc. All pipe dream stuff more than likely as the chances of separate organisations cooperating so closely long term is unlikely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    He obviously wouldn't be in NXT if he joined.

    He'd be like AJ, straight into a high profile feud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    J. Marston wrote: »
    He obviously wouldn't be in NXT if he joined.

    He'd be like AJ, straight into a high profile feud.

    Styles first big WWE feud was with y2j and they were a tag team for a very brief period too

    Omega will prob get a title shot at this first mania and go on to be a big attraction but does he want too do all the house shows and that. There's a chance he could Balor it (Really hope he or any other wrestler doesn't) and In Vinces eyes that's a big No for u


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    How much would it cost them to get get Cena to jump ship?


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    How much would it cost them to get get Cena to jump ship?

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    Highly unlikely Cena will jump ship though.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The rally is on tonight at 10pm our time.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Zack Ryder
    I got gear made for the 2016 Royal Rumble...but I wasn’t in it. I’ve yet to be in a Royal Rumble to wear it. This may be my year! I hope it still fits!#StillHere #AlwayzReady

    Bully Ray
    If not, save it for AEW.

    Too soon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    PAC/Neville has apparently signed with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    These are the places showing it.

    YouTube: Being The Elite
    Twitter: @AEWrestling
    Facebook: @TheYoungBucks
    Instagram: @TheBrandiRhodes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    What time ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    10pm Irish time.



    I wonder could they get Nakamura.


    He gets to stay in the States and from reading some of the posters here on Boards that is something he wants.



    These guys might actually be able to motivate him a motivated Nakamura would be a big asset.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    10pm Irish time.



    I wonder could they get Nakamura.


    He gets to stay in the States and from reading some of the posters here on Boards that is something he wants.



    These guys might actually be able to motivate him a motivated Nakamura would be a big asset.
    Wouldn't that depend on his contract situation with WWE ? From what I've seen of him in WWE in general, he looks not motivated/bored and it's a shame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Wouldn't that depend on his contract situation with WWE ? From what I've seen of him in WWE in general, he looks not motivated/bored and it's a shame.

    Well that's it really does anyone really know how long all the talent they could poach from the WWE have left on their contracts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Tye Dillinger hinted at something on Instagram with this.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BsYQXiLleNE/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Well that's it really does anyone really know how long all the talent they could poach from the WWE have left on their contracts.

    Well would Meltzer know ? I know from reading books from wrestlers, that in the 1990's at least, there was a period towards the end of a wrestlers contract where they could talk to another company. I don't know if that's even the case today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I'd like to know what WWE are doing with all the talent they've been signing. Some of them could ask for their releases.
    And will they have a women's division from the start?

    And then I suppose one of the big things is will they have a wellness policy similar to WWE?

    But one thing I think they need to avoid is constantly calling out WWE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    That's a big hint from Tye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    If anyone asks for their release the WWE would probably do what they did to PAC and put them on gardening leave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Well would Meltzer know ? I know from reading books from wrestlers, that in the 1990's at least, there was a period towards the end of a wrestlers contract where they could talk to another company. I don't know if that's even the case today.

    Those wanting out might let him know for the publicity it will bring and since he is supposed to be pretty close to the AEW guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Bryan Alvarez saying there is one guy who they are bringing out last that is top secret and no-one knows who it is.

    Punk?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Bryan Alvarez saying there is one guy who they are bringing out last that is top secret and no-one knows who it is.

    Punk?

    No way it's Punk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Bryan Alvarez saying there is one guy who they are bringing out last that is top secret and no-one knows who it is.

    Punk?

    Punk would be a huge get

    Dolph was kinda written out of raw a few weeks ago.

    But it's more than likely Jericho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    What is Ted Dibiase Jr up to these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    The whole F’n show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I'd like to know what WWE are doing with all the talent they've been signing. Some of them could ask for their releases.
    And will they have a women's division from the start?

    And then I suppose one of the big things is will they have a wellness policy similar to WWE?

    But one thing I think they need to avoid is constantly calling out WWE

    Well hopefully that's what this rally will let us know more specifics. I think AEW more than other wrestling companies in recent past may be a very good thing for WWE as it may lead Vince to have to change and up their game if this new company gets a good TV deal, which given that the money person is the son of an NFL owner who would have contacts in the TV world means they are well placed to do something of note.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy




    Youtube link to the rally.
    Conrad thompson is screen now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Conrad hosting :( TNA Mark 2 here we go.



  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Conrad hosting :( TNA Mark 2 here we go.


    I'd say he's just being interviewed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    They will use him (Conrad) for his huckster skill of shilling which is probably a good idea as the lad knows how to shill.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,913 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Anyone looking at the chat-box on YouTube? :pac: So many trolls. :D


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