Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

You're a nutjob.

Scaremongering.

How do you know? He posted nothing that borders on scaremongering.

all about the mane wrote: »

they must be breathing a sigh of relief!

Who?

cameramonkey wrote: »

Singapore
99 cases
72 fully recovered from the infection and have been discharged
20 confirmed cases are stable
7 are in critical condition.
0 deaths.

I suppose this shows what a good health system will do in the early stages of an outbreak. It seems the problems mount when your system gets overwhelmed with people who need oxygen or intensive care and the capacity is not there. This is what I would worry about with Ireland.

It's also not spreading despite Singapore being one of the most densely populated countries on the face of the earth.
99 cases and it was one of the first to declare a case outside China.
Compare that with Europe.

We suck at isolation / more draconian measures because we westerners are more accustomed to wide-ranging freedoms.
Those freedoms will probably need to be curtailed to slow this down. And I do believe Europe will see higher infection rates than Asia as a direct result of the political failures to implement those sort of measures soon.

Inane example. I could work from home indefinitely. My job doesn't require my physical presence other than for meetings that could be teleconferenced and printing the occasional document. There would still need to be a warehouse staff, but over 100 office personnel could do the same - everything is remote desktop, they'd just need access.

It's laughable that our company would introduce work from home over this. It would be seen as unthinkable, not progressive. Anyone suggesting it will be laughed at until things get out of hand by which point the purpose of it happening en masse will be partially defeated.

Equally so, if the government was to promote it. They're be lambasted by employer groups and accused of scaremongering.

I won’t be providing information on this thread to prove my credentials due to concern for doxing and how it may effect my employment , mod can pm me privately if they feel necessary.

tillyfilly wrote: »

Researchers currently think that between five and 40 coronavirus cases in 1,000 will result in death, with a best guess of nine in 1,000 or about 1%

Seems like this will be highly dependent on the available medical facilities.

amadangomor wrote: »

Drill maybe. Don't fall for the LCD ****e going around

what do you think was happening in the hours or days before the news of a confirmed case was released?

There's a small cohort of people here continually posting crap and rumours and then going around thanking each others posts

all about the mane wrote: »

the tinfoil hats are out in force now

How?

brendanwalsh wrote: »

I presume they wanted to do the test again to confirm, also don’t want to incite panic in general public, before contact tracing the individuals exact movements and encounters.
Irish healthcare system is not equipped for this. HSE is at breaking point without 1000 extra people showing up with a cough.
HSE will minimize testing and hope that 80% of people who catch it will be fine or asymptomatic and that the 20% who do get it will eventually present. But if they announce corona is disseminated through Ireland 100% of people with coughs will start turning up to EDs spreading it more and looking for treatment (of which there is none for mild disease)

You are actively adding to this Scaremongering.

They stated that they had contacted people first before announcing it today. So people that were beside this person etc already know.


One man's suppressing information is another man's giving people warning.


If someone was on a flight from Milan then they should be alert to the possibility of picking up this pox even in the absence or timing of this announcement.

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Impressive maths... But you assumed 50% of cases undetected thus halving the quoted death rates.

However the WHO China mission report says... "Asymptomatic infection has been reported, but the majority of the relatively rare cases who are asymptomatic on the date of identification/report went on to develop disease. The proportion of truly asymptomatic infections is unclear but appears to be relatively rare and does not appear to be a major driver of transmission."

Dr Bruce Aylward the WHO expert said in his news conference that there is NO rest of the iceberg, the figures from China are real.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

He may be an expert but he is making a judgment call on the information presented to him by the Chinese authorities. These are the same Chinese authorities who deny any large scale detention of the Uighur population despite massive evidence to the contrary.
What is the official Chinese figure, 40,000 extra health care workers to treat 80,000 infected? You won’t get that staff ratio in any Irish ICU.

brendanwalsh wrote: »

I won’t be providing information on this thread to prove my credentials due to concern for doxing and how it may effect my employment , mod can pm me privately if they feel necessary.

Stop posting if you're not going to provide further info.

What's stopping any of us posting "inside information" that we can't back up otherwise? It isn't helping and you're not a source we can trust if we only have your word to go by.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1233906323798052867

My asthma is quite bad, would I be more affected by the virus than the average citizen? If I don't sit my exams, it will set me back almost a year, would I be stupid not to sit them when there has only been two cases confirmed in Ireland?