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What are your thoughts on the Ian Wright/Patrick O'Brien situation?

  • 13-05-2020 3:13pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    I know he's only young, but my word what he said was disgraceful. I hope he genuinely is sorry.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭Central Services


    He should be grounded......oh no wait..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,304 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I know he's only young, but my word what he said was disgraceful. I hope he genuinely is sorry.
    I saw he had put up something to say his account was hacked.... utter BS.
    Its important people are held accountable for spouting racist rubbish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    I know he's only young, but my word what he said was disgraceful. I hope he genuinely is sorry.




    What was it he said?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,304 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Odhinn wrote: »
    What was it he said?
    He sent messages to Ian wright.
    Horrendous.
    Most of it will probably be starred out.

    I know I'm not meant to look at them but these messages still hit me so hard man. This is a child!!! "You are a ****ing monkey", "**** coon monkey ******". Direct message to me from Patrick O'Brien on IG. This kid as a direct line into me & is able to send this without any worry. https://t.co/6noGvmkb4u


  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭Salvadoor


    Careful now, the thread on this in the Kerry Forum (and posts in Tralee thread) were locked/deleted by an overprotective Tralee based Mod.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    gmisk wrote: »
    He sent messages to Ian wright.
    Horrendous.
    Most of it will probably be starred out.

    I know I'm not meant to look at them but these messages still hit me so hard man. This is a child!!! "You are a ****ing monkey", "**** coon monkey ******". Direct message to me from Patrick O'Brien on IG. This kid as a direct line into me & is able to send this without any worry. https://t.co/6noGvmkb4u




    Nasty little fecker allright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    It's quite disturbing that you'd even be able to come up with that amount of vitriol towards someone who seems just genuinely lovely and is loved by so many people. I hope the f*cker pays for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    gmisk wrote: »
    He sent messages to Ian wright.
    Horrendous.
    Most of it will probably be starred out.

    I know I'm not meant to look at them but these messages still hit me so hard man. This is a child!!! "You are a ****ing monkey", "**** coon monkey ******". Direct message to me from Patrick O'Brien on IG. This kid as a direct line into me & is able to send this without any worry. https://t.co/6noGvmkb4u

    Adult teenager is what the news said, so he has to be 18 or 19. Old enough to know it's totally unacceptable.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    What's happening?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Someone will be along to justify the behaviour of this fella soon.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭Central Services


    Salvadoor wrote: »
    Careful now, the thread on this in the Kerry Forum (and posts in Tralee thread) were locked/deleted by an overprotective Tralee based Mod.


    Some might be protective of the family.

    The young lad though deserves all the exposure coming his way.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Unless the offender is mentally ill, he should be punished and even made an example of. He has since come out to apologise and veer from the 'woz hacked, soz' excuse, but not good enough. That was some hardcore racism intended to cause maximum hurt, and he knew what he was doing.

    Garda statement describe him as "a male, adult teenager" so we are probably talking 18 or 19, i.e. not a young kid who didn't know any better, so fück him and his abhorrent views.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Tiredalways


    I know he's only young, but my word what he said was disgraceful. I hope he genuinely is sorry.
    'I was hacked'
    remorseful words indeed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Looks like the mod in the Kerry forum was more concerned with not prejudicing any trial. The Gardai asked for it to not be discussed on social media.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    It's beyond disgusting.

    Sadly there is pockets of racism in this country and even apparent on this site by times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    Good enough for him! When will people realize you can’t post nasty **** on the internet and think it’s ok. It’s a long time since I’ve been in school but are kids even educated on the internet? What you write is up there forever and what you may write now could impact you at a later date!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    major bill wrote: »
    ] When will people realize you can’t post nasty **** on the internet and think it’s ok.

    When the Boards.ie servers go down for good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Hrududu


    Unless the offender is mentally ill, he should be punished and even made an example of. He has since come out to apologise and veer from the 'woz hacked, soz' excuse, but not good enough. That was some hardcore racism intended to cause maximum hurt, and he knew what he was doing.

    Garda statement describe him as "a male, adult teenager" so we are probably talking 18 or 19, i.e. not a young kid who didn't know any better, so fück him and his abhorrent views.
    He cant be playing with a full deck to post that under his actual name. In this day and age how can a teenager be so technologically illiterate? Not to mention his views


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    hard to understand how you can be like that against somebody because of a colour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,684 ✭✭✭This is it


    So many of them unfortunately, little scumbag. He's in for a horrible few months at the very least.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    major bill wrote: »
    Good enough for him! When will people realize you can’t post nasty **** on the internet and think it’s ok. It’s a long time since I’ve been in school but are kids even educated on the internet? What you write is up there forever and what you may write now could impact you at a later date!

    Hard to believe that some still think that the internet isn't "real life".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Was Ian Wright saying something about the Aubrey-Maturin series?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Odhinn wrote: »
    What was it he said?

    Ah sure why bother including any of that at all in an opening post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Arghus wrote: »
    Was Ian Wright saying something about the Aubrey-Maturin series?

    Why didn't the OP just include this info so we could all understand.
    The books are well researched but can be somewhat tedious by the same token.

    So fair play to Wrighty for calling it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    topper75 wrote: »
    Why didn't the OP just include this info so we could all understand.
    The books are well researched but can be somewhat tedious by the same token.

    So fair play to Wrighty for calling it.

    I wouldn't have put Wrighty down as a fan of meticulously researched historical novels, but it just goes to show you.

    He was dead right with his criticism though: fabulous research, but a bit of a chore to sit through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    I doubt the kid is a racist. He's just using the best possible weapons he has to get to someone, he probably went out drinking with his 3 black mates afterwards, then went home to his Asian GF.

    His attitude was '' hit em where it hurts'' so that's what he did. It's pure dumbassery and childish, it's all down to that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Unless the offender is mentally ill, he should be punished and even made an example of. He has since come out to apologise and veer from the 'woz hacked, soz' excuse, but not good enough. That was some hardcore racism intended to cause maximum hurt, and he knew what he was doing.

    Garda statement describe him as "a male, adult teenager" so we are probably talking 18 or 19, i.e. not a young kid who didn't know any better, so fück him and his abhorrent views.

    I think what we need to do a little, and don’t get me wrong I agree with the sentiment by the way but when somebody does something wrong, automatically jumping towards a defense due to them ‘potentially’ having a psychological issue isn’t any good, especially for the victim. I’d like us as a society to get away from this knee jerk reaction. Unless they’ve been diagnosed as having a psychological issue that could or would account for their behavior it’s probably unhelpful and even unjust to try and account for what they’ve done. People for years have been doing the wrong thing and behaving appallingly, but just had to stand up and be accountable..


    2020... if I’m over in the park and get assaulted and mugged.. “ look you don’t know what trauma that person has had to endure in their life, the stress of covid, you sitting there relaxed in a some ray bans eating a solero, you have to understand blahhh blahhh blahhhh”.

    We I think are using the mental health angle now to excuse any and all misbehavior, bad acts or abuse even... hold people fûcking accountable for their actions regardless or else there WILL be people, lumbered with mental health challenges as a result of falling victim to racist abuse etc... mental health is important but the victims of abuse / crime need to be reassured... trotting out the mental health angle for every and all issues or crimes such as this we can’t accept as the norm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    The funniest/saddest part of all of this is what sparked the outburst...very much child’s behaviour from a young man.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Odhinn wrote: »
    What was it he said?

    It seems to be fairly common knowledge so I guess there is no harm in linking to an article about it.

    https://www.the42.ie/ian-wright-racist-abuse-5096642-May2020/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭The Tetrarch


    I like Ian Wright. I liked him even more for this.
    Best to watch them in the order posted





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Colibri


    He spewed racist stuff and threatened to kill him.

    We should make an example of the little sh*t


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,684 ✭✭✭This is it


    Nunu wrote: »
    The funniest/saddest part of all of this is what sparked the outburst...very much child’s behaviour from a young man.

    What was it?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    topper75 wrote: »
    Why didn't the OP just include this info so we could all understand.
    The books are well researched but can be somewhat tedious by the same token.

    So fair play to Wrighty for calling it.

    The high quality of the research is only one of the many favourable aspects - he is also a master of characterisation and capturing the essence of interpersonal interactions!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,514 ✭✭✭valoren


    Comes out with the classic "I was hacked" excuse? He was sound of mind enough to try and weasel his way out of accountability though. The last resort of a coward and is an indication he's not sorry for what he said but sorry he was caught.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 315 ✭✭coinop


    I doubt the kid is a racist. He's just using the best possible weapons he has to get to someone, he probably went out drinking with his 3 black mates afterwards, then went home to his Asian GF.

    His attitude was '' hit em where it hurts'' so that's what he did. It's pure dumbassery and childish, it's all down to that.

    ^^^ This guy gets it.
    If his target was wearing glasses, he would call him four eyes.
    If his target had acne, he would call him pizza face.
    His target in this case was black so he called him a monkey.
    The young lad is obviously a twat but the mob condemning racism as the worst possible crime ever need to get a grip. Is bullying a ginger a lesser crime than bullying an African?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Osborne


    coinop wrote: »
    ^^^ This guy gets it.
    If his target was wearing glasses, he would call him four eyes.
    If his target had acne, he would call him pizza face.
    His target in this case was black so he called him a monkey.
    The young lad is obviously a twat but the mob condemning racism as the worst possible crime ever need to get a grip. Is bullying a ginger a lesser crime than bullying an African?

    Nah. He's the definition of a racist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Am I the only '90s kid who instantly thinks of this any time Ian Wright's name is mentioned?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    It's quite disturbing that you'd even be able to come up with that amount of vitriol towards someone who seems just genuinely lovely and is loved by so many people. I hope the f*cker pays for it.

    I met Ian Wright years ago (13 years ago to be exact) . It was a miserable pissy day at the Acropolis (In Athens, not some iffy stip club in England that I'm sure probably exists) the day after the 07 champions league final. Hed spent the previous hour or so taking pictures and giving autographs to lads which trekking up and around it. These were the days of much worse camera phones, and between me and my cousin only his still had a bit of power in it. The man was an absolute gent. His missus gave him hassle cos we were taking so long and she said we already got a picture earlier. He told her we didn't and to wait. It took ages cos the phone turned off at least once while we posed in the rain. So between us only I managed to get a picture and we'd nothing to get signed or even a pen.

    It's still my favourite picture that isn't of my family.


    That little **** deserves to have everyone know what he sent. People send off this type of stuff thinking therll be no consequence. **** him.


    People seem to have this thing that the internet doesn't matter and isn't serious. Lots of "ah, hes just a kid". **** that. If hed sent good old fashioned hate mail in the post people wouldn't take it as lightly. It's the same thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Hrududu wrote: »
    He cant be playing with a full deck to post that under his actual name. In this day and age how can a teenager be so technologically illiterate? Not to mention his views

    Youd be surprised what people have no issue putting online under their real name. Theres plenty under articles from the papers or other news sources. When you click in to their profiles they often have hundreds or a couple of thousand followers so theres clearly plenty of like minded people who think the same.


  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭eireyiddo


    Bet you find 1 of his mates grabbed his phone or was able to log into his account! ie hacked
    As vile as it is what was said I don't believe for a second some one could be that supid


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Bizarre behaviour from a little toe rag. Wright is a gentleman, how anyone could have such vitriol against a complete stranger like that is bizarre. This idiot is already after paying the price from what I've seen with his club, the gardai and even his mother being contacted about his hate filled messages. I'd be extremely concerned at my son or daughter sending stuff like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    I'd imagine his "I was hacked" will actually turn out to be a friend took his phone and did that, which still wouldn't hold water as he'd know what messages were sent . Besides that if any friend of mine did that I'd have no hassle throwing them under the bus for it.

    Let's see what the Gardaí do with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Fair play to Wright for highlighting it. Hope the Gardai will get the truth out and the culprit will pay for his actions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭Salvadoor


    Am I the only '90s kid who instantly thinks of this any time Ian Wright's name is mentioned?



    Jesus, Chicken Tonight. I had it once, it went right through me. I didn't know whether the approach the jacks head-on or by reversing after eating it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,847 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Disgusting comments from that guy. I hope Wright gets justice.

    Not an arsenal fan but wright was some goal machine in his day. Loved watching him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭ChelseaRentBoy


    Would hate to have had social media when i was younger. I'd be mortified by some of the stuff looking back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,257 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Am I the only '90s kid who instantly thinks of this any time Ian Wright's name is mentioned?


    Lol; I remember that.

    I don't really follow football but is Ian Wright still in the public eye as a pundit or whatever? I'd have thought this little toerag would be too young to be familiar with him. He seems like a very random target.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,304 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    eireyiddo wrote: »
    Bet you find 1 of his mates grabbed his phone or was able to log into his account! ie hacked
    As vile as it is what was said I don't believe for a second some one could be that supid
    I really sincerely doubt that he was hacked.
    He said he was... and said a load of other racist abuse was sent to other well known people at the same time....yet zero evidence of that happening.
    Plus there seem to be screenshots of him apologising and saying he made a mistake etc so in other words...he wasn't hacked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    never cared too much for Ian Wright he was no angel himself esp on the football pitch...but what that guy posted was utterly disgraceful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,304 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I doubt the kid is a racist. He's just using the best possible weapons he has to get to someone, he probably went out drinking with his 3 black mates afterwards, then went home to his Asian GF.

    His attitude was '' hit em where it hurts'' so that's what he did. It's pure dumbassery and childish, it's all down to that.
    Ah the old classic "I am not racist but..." sure I have black friends and everything....
    He is a scumbag and deserves everything that is coming to him.


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