Wokeism of the day Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users

Danzy · 22-12-2020 11:03pm

On a very broad level, woke is Archbishop McQuaid Vs the fellow who goes to Mass Saturday evening and a few pints after

pickarooney · 23-12-2020 12:27am

Biker79 wrote: »

Not sure I follow.

My point was adverts generate suspicion to a certain degree because we know someone is trying to sell us something.

Adverts that have a clear racial overtone are worse because what exactly is being sold to us and what happens if you mention it like you might other ads? You could be called a racist.

Not a big deal for most of us I guess, but if you're in arts/ entertainment / public eye etc, you could have your working life seriously impacted. And for what? For nothing.

You'll only see a 'clear racial overtone' in an ad if you're looking for it. If there's an ad with 10 white people it's just an ad but if there's a black guy in it there's something suspicious?

23-12-2020 4:47am

pickarooney wrote: »

You'll only see a 'clear racial overtone' in an ad if you're looking for it. If there's an ad with 10 white people it's just an ad but if there's a black guy in it there's something suspicious?

The flips side, though, is where you see a host of ads where you see a husband/wife routine, and the husband is shown as a complete moron. I've seen a couple of insurance ads recently, all from the same company, where the wife is exasperated at the overly idiotic behavior of her husband.

It's like all the ads that were around in the 50s/60s showing women as clueless or beauty pieces, and the men as being all-wise, excellent, etc. There seems to be a lot of ads these days showing men as total muppets.

Atlantic Dawn · 23-12-2020 5:06am

Deleted User wrote: »

The flips side, though, is where you see a host of ads where you see a husband/wife routine, and the husband is shown as a complete moron. I've seen a couple of insurance ads recently, all from the same company, where the wife is exasperated at the overly idiotic behavior of her husband.

It's like all the ads that were around in the 50s/60s showing women as clueless or beauty pieces, and the men as being all-wise, excellent, etc. There seems to be a lot of ads these days showing men as total muppets.

Would be interesting if they ran a 'minority' male so to speak in such ads how they would get the hate directed at them and ban it within 24 hours.

Tony EH · 23-12-2020 1:23pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The flips side, though, is where you see a host of ads where you see a husband/wife routine, and the husband is shown as a complete moron. I've seen a couple of insurance ads recently, all from the same company, where the wife is exasperated at the overly idiotic behavior of her husband.

It's like all the ads that were around in the 50s/60s showing women as clueless or beauty pieces, and the men as being all-wise, excellent, etc. There seems to be a lot of ads these days showing men as total muppets.

That's been going on since the 80's.

IAMAMORON · 23-12-2020 2:22pm

I think cranking at advertisements being a bit woke is lame enough. The concept of advertising has always been discriminatory insofar as its' mere existence is to expose a product to a wider customer base. By all means necessary.

I saw some posters complaining about multiracial advertisements, I don't really get what is so woke about having a television advertisement campaign which involves multi-ethnicities ? It make perfect commercial sense to me.

What marketing directors need to be careful of, is that don't bite off more market share than they can chew? The reality is that a lot more caucasian men ( oops sorry WOmens) will be purchasing Levi's or Tommy Hilfiger Jeans and jock-style jumpers than will gangster types from Slough, Bradford, Sau Palo or Compton? Common sense is required in the marketing boardroom or I will be required to fire your ass... no matter how well it looks in those jeans.

Marketing directors cannot afford to get their asses fired, their asses are on the line all the time, they need to move their ass and get with the times. They need to shift their asses and make those jeans fit ( their asses ).

COVID · 23-12-2020 2:32pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Would be interesting if they ran a 'minority' male so to speak in such ads how they would get the hate directed at them and ban it within 24 hours.

Not sure if that would be interesting at all really, it would be seen as 'punching down', which is never funny, it just comes across as bullying.

If you're young, ask an 'oldie' about 'punch down' specialists such as Bernard Manning and Jim Davidson.

Though I'm told that Les Dawson's mother-in-law jokes were quite good, which is 'punching up' of course.

Necro · 23-12-2020 2:46pm

Mod:

V8 Interceptor, don't post in this thread again. There's complaining about 'wokeism' whatever that is and then there's outright racism. That's not accepted here, simple as.

COVID · 23-12-2020 2:49pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I think cranking at advertisements being a bit woke is lame enough...

...What marketing directors need to be careful of, is that don't bite off more market share than they can chew? The reality is that a lot more caucasian men ( oops sorry WOmens) will be purchasing Levi's or Tommy Hilfiger Jeans and jock-style jumpers than will gangster types from Slough, Bradford, Sau Palo or Compton? Common sense is required in the marketing boardroom or I will be required to fire your ass... no matter how well it looks in those jeans.

Marketing directors cannot afford to get their asses fired, their asses are on the line all the time, they need to move their ass and get with the times. They need to shift their asses and make those jeans fit ( their asses ).

Don't take this the wrong way, or do if you want, but I like your asses.

IAMAMORON · 23-12-2020 2:55pm

COVID wrote: »

Don't take this the wrong way, or do if you want, but I like your asses.

All my asses are woke.

They are woke asses.

Biker79 · 23-12-2020 6:12pm

pickarooney wrote: »

You'll only see a 'clear racial overtone' in an ad if you're looking for it. If there's an ad with 10 white people it's just an ad but if there's a black guy in it there's something suspicious?

I said suspicious of intent - not suspicious of content. You either struggle with comprehension or you wilfully misinterpreted what I wrote.

Given Wokies religious fervour with regards to social justice, I'll go with option B.

Nice try.

23-12-2020 6:17pm

Tony EH wrote: »

That's been going on since the 80's.

Just Seemed to be more of that type of ad than before.

Tony EH · 23-12-2020 6:37pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Just Seemed to be more of that type of ad than before.

Nah. I clearly remember that kinda stuff from years ago. It's an old comedy trope that goes back years. Eric Sykes and Hattie Jacques were doing it in the 60's. Terry and June (and nearly every other comedy show) in the 70's. It's just an extension of the old straight man/funny man act for a 2 minute commercial.

COVID · 23-12-2020 7:58pm

Not forgetting 'Fawlty Towers' - 1975 to 1979 - where Sybil runs rings around Basil every time, so no, not a new thing at all.

23-12-2020 8:23pm

Guys, I'm not suggesting that it was a new thing.. nor am I talking about comedy sketches. I'm referring to the advertisements. I know it's been around for a long time.. I was simply referring to how many ads seem to be doing it these days. Yes, there's always been ads of that type, but it appeared (to me) that there were more now than before (or perhaps there's less showing the woman as being an idiot, and therefore the moronic guy is more noticeable.)

COVID · 23-12-2020 8:29pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Guys, I'm not suggesting that it was a new thing.. nor am I talking about comedy sketches. I'm referring to the advertisements. I know it's been around for a long time.. I was simply referring to how many ads seem to be doing it these days. Yes, there's always been ads of that type, but it appeared (to me) that there were more now than before (or perhaps there's less showing the woman as being an idiot, and therefore the moronic guy is more noticeable.)

There might be something in that, particularly your last line.

Biker79 · 24-12-2020 11:54am

Irish writer recently spoke out against the woke members of the writing industry.

The Irish author was one of 150 authors, academics and journalists to sign a letter in Harper’s Magazine in October criticising “a new set of moral attitudes and political commitments that tend to weaken our norms of open debate and toleration of differences in favour of ideological conformity”.

“I despise this ‘woke’ movement. Why were they asleep for so long? The same injustices were going on. It’s become a religious cult. You see people kneeling in the street, holding up their fists – that’s not going to do anything for black people.

“Black people or transgender people should not be given a special place. They should be given the same treatment as the rest of us. God, I can hear the Twitter comments going already. Do I care? Absolutely not.”

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/banville-criticised-by-fellow-booker-winner-for-saying-he-despises-woke-movement-1.4424788

So, that's Tech and the Literary industries that are being hijacked by this cult.

I wonder though if there is a co-relation between woke and mediocrity? Beneath the virtue signalling and rigorous finger-wagging, there appears to be an element of desperation.

COVID · 24-12-2020 12:34pm

Biker79 wrote: »

Irish writer recently spoke out against the woke members of the writing industry.

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/banville-criticised-by-fellow-booker-winner-for-saying-he-despises-woke-movement-1.4424788

So, that's Tech and the Literary industries that are being hijacked by this cult.

I wonder though if there is a co-relation between woke and mediocrity? Beneath the virtue signalling and rigorous finger-wagging, there appears to be an element of desperation.

Yeah, I read that on this thread, post #1565, in....... November.
Do try and keep up!

Biker79 · 24-12-2020 12:40pm

COVID wrote: »

Yeah, I read that on this thread, post #1565, in....... November.
Do try and keep up!

The IT article was published in December.

Are the laws of physics now open to subjective feelings as well?

COVID · 24-12-2020 1:05pm

Biker79 wrote: »

The IT article was published in December.

Are the laws of physics now open to subjective feelings as well?

If there's one thing worse than feelings, it's subjective feelings.

Happy Christmas!

IAMAMORON · 24-12-2020 1:34pm

Biker79 wrote: »

He already mentioned it.

C'mon man, you're falling behind. You need to pull up your socks. You're like Father Jack in the corner there.

He didn't mention either of the Big4 accounting firms who he insinuated were introducing an SOP on language based on gender and or gender preference, with a particular emphasis on balanced gender plurals.

He did mention the " F " company, which I assumed to be Facebook? But if I am going to suss on free speech fascism, I think the fact that the poster was afraid of mentioning FACEBOOK, as being a company influencing the communications strategy of a multinational accounting practice..... then I think we can safely announce, that a new low as been acquired as regards online freedom of expression.

If one of the only 4 BIG4 accounting firms are pandering to FACEBOOK as regards their approach to a tactful communications strategy, then I feel it is travesty for Financial Objectivity and I also think Harcourt street and every glorified Manager, Director and Partner working therein need to be wholly ashamed of themselves.

The purpose of having an auditor is to ensure that best financial practice is being employed, to ascertain that external investment is a going concern? It is not to cow down to a gang of overpaid rich ( wokish )chunts living in and around Silicon valley, I would hope.

I am in a rush, so apologies for any poor placement of commas above, I love you all.

Happy Christmas.

PS - the sooner we cancel all Father Ted references as being some sort of indication or hint of a sense of humour the better. Not because slagging off alcoholic priests is woke... but because whilst Father Ted is quite an enjoyable sitcom which has managed to stand the test of time, it only highlights a deficit in ones' bland sense of humour when they feel compelled to use it as some sort of stick to bash and patronise other posters with for starters? I get a better laugh watching Dinny, Richard and Miley bicker around the cold streets of Glenroe, or indeed watching Mary and Biddy invading the underwear section of Penneys to buy sexy bras then I ever got laughing at weekly catchphrases like " ah ya will " or whatever that phucking drunk priest used to spout, I have forgotten now. Both Frasier and Cheers are miles better anyways - for starters.

punisher5112 · 24-12-2020 1:42pm

Happy woke Christmas everyone....

Biker79 · 24-12-2020 2:19pm

COVID wrote: »

If there's one thing worse than feelings, it's subjective feelings.

Happy Christmas!

Sounds like voodoo-wokie-magic to me.

Bah humbug!

(Happy Christmas

)

EmmetSpiceland · 24-12-2020 2:22pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

The purpose of having an auditor is to ensure that best financial practice is being employed, to ascertain that external investment is a going concern? It is not to cow down to a gang of overpaid rich ( wokish )chunts living in and around Silicon valley, I would hope.

It’s impressive that anyone still takes these auditing firms, and “rating” agencies, seriously after the last crash.

Anyway, anyone who deals with these guys on an annual basis knows the “score”. They haven’t a clue so you tell them what they need to look at and then provide exactly that. Leaving out any potential “bananas skins” that aren’t that important but they’ll spend weeks trying to understand.

Biker79 · 24-12-2020 2:25pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

He didn't mention either of the Big4 accounting firms who he insinuated were introducing an SOP on language based on gender and or gender preference, with a particular emphasis on balanced gender plurals.

He did mention the " F " company, which I assumed to be Facebook? But if I am going to suss on free speech fascism, I think the fact that the poster was afraid of mentioning FACEBOOK, as being a company influencing the communications strategy of a multinational accounting practice..... then I think we can safely announce, that a new low as been acquired as regards online freedom of expression.
s.

The ' Big 4 ' also provide other business services which can involve contract staff on-site in any of the big tech firms. Those staff are effectively working for that company and subject to the same rules and cultural dynamics. Although I don't have any direct knowledge myself, in this instance, the comment strikes me as entirely plausible.

Tony EH · 24-12-2020 2:54pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Happy woke Christmas everyone....

Surely, you mean happy Holidays?

CtevenSrowder · 24-12-2020 3:05pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

He didn't mention either of the Big4 accounting firms who he insinuated were introducing an SOP on language based on gender and or gender preference, with a particular emphasis on balanced gender plurals.

He did mention the " F " company, which I assumed to be Facebook? But if I am going to suss on free speech fascism, I think the fact that the poster was afraid of mentioning FACEBOOK, as being a company influencing the communications strategy of a multinational accounting practice..... then I think we can safely announce, that a new low as been acquired as regards online freedom of expression.

If one of the only 4 BIG4 accounting firms are pandering to FACEBOOK as regards their approach to a tactful communications strategy, then I feel it is travesty for Financial Objectivity and I also think Harcourt street and every glorified Manager, Director and Partner working therein need to be wholly ashamed of themselves.

The purpose of having an auditor is to ensure that best financial practice is being employed, to ascertain that external investment is a going concern? It is not to cow down to a gang of overpaid rich ( wokish )chunts living in and around Silicon valley, I would hope.

I am in a rush, so apologies for any poor placement of commas above, I love you all.

Happy Christmas.

PS - the sooner we cancel all Father Ted references as being some sort of indication or hint of a sense of humour the better. Not because slagging off alcoholic priests is woke... but because whilst Father Ted is quite an enjoyable sitcom which has managed to stand the test of time, it only highlights a deficit in ones' bland sense of humour when they feel compelled to use it as some sort of stick to bash and patronise other posters with for starters? I get a better laugh watching Dinny, Richard and Miley bicker around the cold streets of Glenroe, or indeed watching Mary and Biddy invading the underwear section of Penneys to buy sexy bras then I ever got laughing at weekly catchphrases like " ah ya will " or whatever that phucking drunk priest used to spout, I have forgotten now. Both Frasier and Cheers are miles better anyways - for starters.

Careful now

IAMAMORON · 24-12-2020 3:37pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

It’s impressive that anyone still takes these auditing firms, and “rating” agencies, seriously after the last crash.

Anyway, anyone who deals with these guys on an annual basis knows the “score”. They haven’t a clue so you tell them what they need to look at and then provide exactly that. Leaving out any potential “bananas skins” that aren’t that important but they’ll spend weeks trying to understand.

They are the epicenter of a dangerous Oligopoly. However when it is only one degree of separation away from smartass woke chunts like Mark Zuckerburg I find that I sleep a little less. Especially when he gets to give the nod as regards the communications strategy on what is essentially the largest communications company on the entire planet.

I find it disparaging that this is where we are at to be frank. When you factor in the fact that Father Ted is now being used as some sort of generic comedy it makes me feel genuinely unwell. Who decided that? Blackadder 2 was much funnier, especially the way they sexed up Elizabeth I as being some sort of simpleton with curly red hair who actually endowed a considerable amount of power in the western world... now who does that remind me of?

Dr. Bre · 24-12-2020 4:18pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Happy woke Christmas everyone....

How come is Santa is white ?

24-12-2020 4:24pm

Nah. He's pink.

Wibbs · 24-12-2020 5:29pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

It’s impressive that anyone still takes these auditing firms, and “rating” agencies, seriously after the last crash.

Indeed. Rating agencies, economists and the like, all tend to be part of the woo broscience that middle management love to wheel out at powerpoint parties, but are remarkably crap at predicting the future. Nice work if you can get it though as it usually carries a big pricetag.

Wibbs · 24-12-2020 5:29pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Nah. He's pink.

He's pale and green. Fcuk coca cola.

Omackeral · 24-12-2020 6:53pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

How come is Santa is white ?

He’s from the North Pole. (Although some will say Turkey). Why is Jesus 6”2 and ripped to bits and white if he’s from the Middle East circa 2000 years ago?

IAMAMORON · 24-12-2020 7:00pm

Omackeral wrote: »

He’s from the North Pole. (Although some will say Turkey). Why is Jesus 6”2 and ripped to bits and white if he’s from the Middle East circa 2000 years ago?

I think it is because he had Albinism?

I read in a book once he fed 5,000 people with a loaf a bred and 5 pieces of mackerel, that's a lot of ripping.

Biker79 · 24-12-2020 7:34pm

From Socrates to Plato, to Seneca. From the enlightenment to the Scientific Method, from the industrial revolution to Nietzsche to the transistor, to food security to the digital revolution....to the data analytics tools that are making this global pandemic a fraction of the disaster it would have been otherwise...all the countless fruits of the rational bro-mind - to all the broscience.

This Xmas we should take a moment to be grateful to the all bros, past and present who do great work so that we can all enjoy a comfortable life of self-actualising. Even if that means some will whine and complain about diversity and toxic masculinity.... while not contributing very much themselves....I guess its a small price to pay. A bro is a creature of burden among other things...so he will shoulder these flourishes of woke-ism without flinching too much. He knows that hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create woke men...woke men create hard times...hard times create strong men....etc, etc - all part of the cycle of life.

Merry Xmas and thanks to all the bros

Danzy · 24-12-2020 8:49pm

Omackeral wrote: »

He’s from the North Pole. (Although some will say Turkey). Why is Jesus 6”2 and ripped to bits and white if he’s from the Middle East circa 2000 years ago?

He would have been a med person of that time, he'd be like a Greek person.

Probably had brown eyes but that's not guaranteed.

Danzy · 24-12-2020 8:51pm

Omackeral wrote: »

He’s from the North Pole. (Although some will say Turkey). Why is Jesus 6”2 and ripped to bits and white if he’s from the Middle East circa 2000 years ago?

He would have been a med person of that time, he'd be like a Greek person.

Probably had brown eyes but that's not guaranteed.

Cordell · 25-12-2020 2:33pm

Tony EH wrote: »

Surely, you mean happy Holidays?

It was Festive eve partner in the woke tank...

ExMachina1000 · 25-12-2020 2:39pm

https://twitter.com/LeftieU/status/1339629256750604294?s=20

Morathi · 25-12-2020 3:32pm

I assume that was made as a joke to begin with, it has to be.

Sweet Jesus I really hope it was. XD

ingalway · 25-12-2020 5:24pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

They are the epicenter of a dangerous Oligopoly. However when it is only one degree of separation away from smartass woke chunts like Mark Zuckerburg I find that I sleep a little less. Especially when he gets to give the nod as regards the communications strategy on what is essentially the largest communications company on the entire planet.

I find it disparaging that this is where we are at to be frank. When you factor in the fact that Father Ted is now being used as some sort of generic comedy it makes me feel genuinely unwell. Who decided that? Blackadder 2 was much funnier, especially the way they sexed up Elizabeth I as being some sort of simpleton with curly red hair who actually endowed a considerable amount of power in the western world... now who does that remind me of?

Mick Hucknell?
Your hate of Graham Linehan is really off the rails at this stage.

auspicious · 25-12-2020 8:35pm

I see the video of the woman eating roasted cat which challenged the accepted tradition of Sunday/turkey roast was taken down, probably at the behest of an overly sensitive user easily dismissing their own double standards. And on the wokeism thread no less, ha the irony of it.

IAMAMORON · 26-12-2020 11:08am

auspicious wrote: »

I see the video of the woman eating roasted cat which challenged the accepted tradition of Sunday/turkey roast was taken down, probably at the behest of an overly sensitive user easily dismissing their own double standards. And on the wokeism thread no less, ha the irony of it.

Considering they kill vermin I wouldn't be giving the young ones any bad ideas.

Its cool for cats.

ExMachina1000 · 26-12-2020 11:51am

https://twitter.com/JoeConchaTV/status/1342600602052943872?s=20

EmmetSpiceland · 26-12-2020 1:09pm

https://www.the42.ie/shamrock-rovers-6-5310967-Dec2020/

“SHAMROCK ROVERS HAVE issued a strong statement condemning “hateful” online abuse of their girls’ and boys’ U17 players during FAI livestreams of their national league final with Cork City.

Rovers’ U17 player Jessie Stapleton highlighted some of the vile comments in a post on Twitter after the game, and it has been widely shared online.”

Tony EH · 26-12-2020 4:17pm

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JoeConchaTV/status/1342600602052943872?s=20

People like you are part of the problem, because you and others go around seeking out this rubbish and then spreading it on in tweets and on other platforms. You fuel these people by whining about them and inadvertently pass on their message, as opposed to ignoring them and letting that message die the stupid death it deserves.

Well done you.

ExMachina1000 · 26-12-2020 4:28pm

Tony EH wrote: »

People like you are part of the problem, because you and others go around seeking out this rubbish and then spreading it on in tweets and on other platforms. You fuel these people by whining about them and inadvertently pass on their message, as opposed to ignoring them and letting that message die the stupid death it deserves.

Well done you.

Ah it's a thread where people post pictures or links of "wokeism ".

Wokeism in itself is rubbish. That's the point in highlighting it.

pickarooney · 26-12-2020 4:30pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

https://www.the42.ie/shamrock-rovers-6-5310967-Dec2020/

“SHAMROCK ROVERS HAVE issued a strong statement condemning “hateful” online abuse of their girls’ and boys’ U17 players during FAI livestreams of their national league final with Cork City.

Rovers’ U17 player Jessie Stapleton highlighted some of the vile comments in a post on Twitter after the game, and it has been widely shared online.”

What's the woke angle?

EmmetSpiceland · 26-12-2020 4:34pm

pickarooney wrote: »

What's the woke angle?

The club are condemning racist and sexist abuse of kids.

Cordell · 26-12-2020 4:55pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

The club are condemning racist and sexist abuse of kids.

Unless I'm missing something, that's the decent thing to do and not woke in the slightest.

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Wokeism of the day Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users