Your favourite unsolved mystery?

Capt'n Midnight · 21-09-2014 7:54pm

Mountainsandh wrote: »

Isn't the sum of better engines, better electronics, better materials ... new technology ?

of course , but it's just incremental improvement . The differences between today's 737 and a 1950's 707 are nothing compared to the huge 5 year steps between the 707 / Comet / Viscount / Constellation / DC3 / String and cloth Biplanes ...

Manzoor14 · 23-09-2014 4:01pm

Handed in my notice in work the other day, found this thread a few hours later. Every page read!

One that hasn't been mentioned I think was Sandra Collins going missing in North Mayo.
Was in the news recently as a suspect (who was having an affair with her) was charged with her murder but then acquitted based on lack of evidence. He was arrested just a couple of years ago after returning from England on a visit.

Again, as with a few cases in the thread many locals claim is a done deal about who done it, but just not enough evidence. Apparently one of the suspects was doing some construction work at the time and foundations were being poured around the day/day after she went missing.

Custardpi · 02-10-2014 12:45am

Just came across this case today. The Hinterkaifeck murders are apparently pretty famous in Germany but less well known outside the country. Basically in 1922 an entire Bavarian farming family & their maid were murdered with a farm implement. That would be terrible enough but there were also some weird details surrounding the case. The killer(s?) appears to have stalked his victims for several months prior to the murders & may even have secretly lived on the property.

Although autopsies established that the family had been killed on 31st March neighbours saw smoke coming from the chimney for several days afterwards & when police arrived on 4th April they found evidence that meals had recently been prepared & that livestock had been fed, presumably by the murderer(s). There was a large amount of money in the house (family savings?) but this had not been taken.

One of the most disturbing aspects of the case was the fate of the children. Two year old Josef (who many in the village believed to be the issue of an incestuous liason) was bludgeoned in his cot, while his seven year old sister Cäzilia died with the other family members in the barn. Evidence showed that she had survived for several hours after the assault & during that time had torn chunks of her own hair out.

While there were several suspects at the time no one was ever charged with the crime & today both the perpetrator & motive for the crime remain a complete mystery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterkaifeck
http://www.defrostingcoldcases.com/case-month-hinterkaifeck/

131spanner · 02-10-2014 12:52am

^ That is incredible. The piece about the footsteps to the farm but none back, and hearing footsteps in the attic has the shíte scared outta me!

No sleep tonight!

TheSheriff · 06-10-2014 12:13am

131spanner wrote: »

^ That is incredible. The piece about the footsteps to the farm but none back, and hearing footsteps in the attic has the shíte scared outta me!

No sleep tonight!

Was about to read all until you said this, skip!

GalwayGirl26 · 06-10-2014 12:20am

TheSheriff wrote: »

Was about to read all until you said this, skip!

Just past midnight, I can hear the wind outside....Will def be leaving this for tomorrow!!

Rothko · 06-10-2014 12:37am

GalwayGirl26 wrote: »

Just past midnight, I can hear the wind outside....Will def be leaving this for tomorrow!!

Now is the perfect time to read it.

ringadingding · 06-10-2014 12:37am

Why did I just read that before bed ?

J Mysterio · 06-10-2014 1:42pm

Jesus that is disturbing, particularly about th 7 yr old.

GalwayGirl26 · 07-10-2014 5:18pm

J Mysterio wrote: »

Jesus that is disturbing, particularly about th 7 yr old.

I think the footprints are the creepiest part!
And if the old maid said the place was "haunted" who knows how long they were in the attic if that's what she was hearing!
Felt awful bad for the new maid! First day there and this happens!!

J Mysterio · 07-10-2014 6:00pm

But the girl, mortally wounded but alive long enough to know her family are all dead and to see the evidence... pulling out her hair with the madness of it all. That's really one of the worst things i've ever heard.

wdmfapq4zs83hv · 07-10-2014 6:35pm

I think the very recent case of missing toddler William Tyrell in Australia is up there for me. The case has received pretty much no coverage this side of the world. The family are subject to a gagging order as are the media so they cant be identified. The 3 year old vanished from his grandmothers garden a few weeks ago. No sign of him since. The whole case is very mysterious. When you look at recent missing children cases & the publicity they usually receive. Most people in this country wont even have hear of William.

crannglas · 07-10-2014 7:19pm

Who shot Michael Collins really and where did Ireland s money really go? Not least of all Ireland's missing women and Philip cairns etc..

fleet_admiral · 07-10-2014 8:33pm

crannglas wrote: »

Who shot Michael Collins really and where did Ireland s money really go? Not least of all Ireland's missing women and Philip cairns etc..

That case intrigues and frightens me as it is local to me. I dont let my son out of my sight.
There is something very strange about it when you consider his school bag was found in a lane after it had been searched

Fiolina · 07-10-2014 9:08pm

fleet_admiral wrote: »

That case intrigues and frightens me as it is local to me. I dont let my son out of my sight.
There is something very strange about it when you consider his school bag was found in a lane after it had been searched

It is strange. Wasn't his religion book missing from his bag or something like that?

I find strange the case of missing man Thomas Kennedy from Finglas. He's 82 and has been missing for two months now. I know in terms of other missing people it's not a "long time" but this man was last seen putting his bins out on a fairly bright evening, is fairly fragile so I don't think he could have gone far. There have been extensive searches (land and water) and not a sign.

IvaBigWun · 07-10-2014 9:27pm

crannglas wrote: »

Not least of all Ireland's missing women and Philip cairns etc..

Ive a theory I think Ive said already in this thread but its worth repeating as its such a long one. I believe there's a serial killer at large in Ireland who is a taxi driver. It is the perfect job for this kind of a predator.

A major spoiler of a certain TV show below

I had this theory before that episode of

Sherlock

too!

iano.p · 07-10-2014 9:34pm

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Ive a theory I think Ive said already in this thread but its worth repeating as its such a long one. I believe there's a serial killer at large in Ireland who is a taxi driver. It is the perfect job for this kind of a predator.

A major spoiler of a certain TV show below

I had this theory before that episode of
Sherlock
too!

I think there might be a couple of serial killers around. But why would you say one is a taxi driver.

Spanish Eyes · 07-10-2014 9:34pm

A big mystery for me is why photographs of UFOs, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, and the like are ALWAYS blurred!

I've never seen a clear picture of any of them. So are they myths, Or mysteries...

Cianmcliam · 07-10-2014 9:35pm

Custardpi wrote: »

Just came across this case today. The Hinterkaifeck murders are apparently pretty famous in Germany but less well known outside the country. Basically in 1922 an entire Bavarian farming family & their maid were murdered with a farm implement. That would be terrible enough but there were also some weird details surrounding the case. The killer(s?) appears to have stalked his victims for several months prior to the murders & may even have secretly lived on the property.

Although autopsies established that the family had been killed on 31st March neighbours saw smoke coming from the chimney for several days afterwards & when police arrived on 4th April they found evidence that meals had recently been prepared & that livestock had been fed, presumably by the murderer(s). There was a large amount of money in the house (family savings?) but this had not been taken.

One of the most disturbing aspects of the case was the fate of the children. Two year old Josef (who many in the village believed to be the issue of an incestuous liason) was bludgeoned in his cot, while his seven year old sister Cäzilia died with the other family members in the barn. Evidence showed that she had survived for several hours after the assault & during that time had torn chunks of her own hair out.

While there were several suspects at the time no one was ever charged with the crime & today both the perpetrator & motive for the crime remain a complete mystery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterkaifeck
http://www.defrostingcoldcases.com/case-month-hinterkaifeck/

Wow, that is a really fascinating case, hadn't come across it before. Thanks!

Capt'n Midnight · 07-10-2014 9:47pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

A big mystery for me is why photographs of UFOs, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, and the like are ALWAYS blurred!

I've never seen a clear picture of any of them. So are they myths, Or mysteries...

In the case of UFO's it's obviously the effects of the gravity drive

Big Foot ?
In a country filled with gun nuts and frequent man-hunts and security cameras , and no one has ever found a body or even a single scrap of skin or hair follicle with DNA that doesn't belong to a bear or other animal ??

Cryptozoology in an unexplored area possibly, but not in very popular recreational woods.

Custardpi · 07-10-2014 10:03pm

Cianmcliam wrote: »

Wow, that is a really fascinating case, hadn't come across it before. Thanks!

Yes, I was particularly struck by the detail of the murderer hanging around so long after the slaying, was it someone who had long coveted the farm & wanted to see what it would be like to work it for a few days? I have a mental image of a guy casually pottering about the place, lighting the fire, performing various household & farmyard chores, even fixing himself a meal. All the while knowing that mere yards away were the bodies of an entire famly he had slaughtered. The mind boggles.

Capt'n Midnight · 07-10-2014 10:04pm

TBH I can't understand the fascination people have with murders, real or fictional. By definition most murderers will try to avoid justice and so it's not really surprising that some of them did good clean up jobs or that given the thousands of murders some of the investigations were flawed or not even recognised as such.

In comparison the mystery of what happened to the Neanderthals is just awe inspiring. They had fire and tools and put flowers on graves.

The are Australian tales of volcanic eruptions from 40,000 years ago that were contemporary with the Neanderthals, and we have European art from back then.

Neandarthals had bigger brains and were much stronger than we are.

What would they be like to meet ?

Laois6556 · 07-10-2014 10:17pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

TBH I can't understand the fascination people have with murders, real or fictional. By definition most murderers will try to avoid justice and so it's not really surprising that some of them did good clean up jobs or that given the thousands of murders some of the investigations were flawed or not even recognised as such.

In comparison the mystery of what happened to the Neanderthals is just awe inspiring. They had fire and tools and put flowers on graves.

The are Australian tales of volcanic eruptions from 40,000 years ago that were contemporary with the Neanderthals, and we have European art from back then.

Neandarthals had bigger brains and were much stronger than we are.

What would they be like to meet ?

They'd have you for breakfast.

cml387 · 07-10-2014 10:29pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

The are Australian tales of volcanic eruptions from 40,000 years ago that were contemporary with the Neanderthals, and we have European art from back then.

There is a mystery about the origin of the Australian Aboriginies.
They must have arrived by sea from somewhere else, but their genetic makeup suggests that there is no outside link nearer than 40,000 years ago.
This would suggest an ability by man to cross large seas a hell of a long time further back than we may realise.

wiseoldelf34 · 07-10-2014 10:37pm

where did they stash little maddies body?

tomwaterford · 07-10-2014 10:45pm

crannglas wrote: »

Who shot Michael Collins really and where did Ireland s money really go? Not least of all Ireland's missing women and Philip cairns etc..

AFAIK I think this fairly well known....some retired army sniper who joined the ira after being discharged fighting in ww1

Custardpi · 07-10-2014 11:00pm

Yes, in Tim Pat Coogan's biography of Collins (published 1990) the assassin was named as Sonny O'Neill, an ex British army marksman. He claimed not to have known the identity of the officer he had shot until afterwards & apparently felt great remorse.

crannglas · 07-10-2014 11:05pm

tomwaterford wrote: »

AFAIK I think this fairly well known....some retired army sniper who joined the ira after being discharged fighting in ww1

See afayk. No one ever confessed. Also, Like what happened to shergar.

tomwaterford · 07-10-2014 11:08pm

crannglas wrote: »

See afayk. No one ever confessed. Also, Like what happened to shergar.

its said the chap admitted to it...,when applyinbg for his old ira pension

well admitted to being present at ambush and being in the position from where the shot was said to be taken

I think those accounts are due to go online soon enough....will make for interesting reading

Bassfish · 07-10-2014 11:09pm

Custardpi wrote: »

Yes, in Tim Pat Coogan's biography of Collins (published 1990) the assassin was named as Sonny O'Neill, an ex British army marksman. He claimed not to have known the identity of the officer he had shot until afterwards & apparently felt great remorse.

He apparently said sombrely when the group rendezvoused back in a house, 'I dropped one man anyway' and blessed himself. Collins was the only person killed in in the ambush.

Your favourite unsolved mystery?

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