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21-10-2020, 18:37   #31
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It looks like the imports from the uk for classics will be a thing of the past. I was proceeding under the assumption that there would be a last minute deal and we would pay 200 euros as before. I'm looking at a car in the uk at the moment and about to close out the deal. Don't know what to do now. It's an April 1991 car.
Anyone got any further insight or suggestions?
The classics will still be bought from the UK. Even if there is a last minute deal we will still pay duty and VAT as those are the WTO rules. If the car is 30 years old you will still pay €200 VRT. The VRT will not change because of this.

Depending on what your April '91 car is, bring it in now.
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The classics will still be bought from the UK. Even if there is a last minute deal we will still pay duty and VAT as those are the WTO rules. If the car is 30 years old you will still pay €200 VRT. The VRT will not change because of this.

Depending on what your April '91 car is, bring it in now.
if there's a last minute deal, we'll be operating under that deal, not WTO rules.
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Still hopeful of a deal. It will really limit our options after January 2021 if it doesn’t happen.
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Is it possible to use the date of manufacture rather than first registration date when registering the car.
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Is it possible to use the date of manufacture rather than first registration date when registering the car.
VRT only cares about the date of first registration afaik
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What's to stop someone providing a receipt for their newly acquired uk classic showing a value of say £500 for a nice E30 M3 and just paying Import duty 10% and VAT on the £550 . How are they going to prove what you paid for a certain car.
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What's to stop someone providing a receipt for their newly acquired uk classic showing a value of say £500 for a nice E30 M3 and just paying Import duty 10% and VAT on the £550 . How are they going to prove what you paid for a certain car.
Your car will stay in customs whilst they initiate proceedings for customs fraud.
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What's to stop someone providing a receipt for their newly acquired uk classic showing a value of say £500 for a nice E30 M3 and just paying Import duty 10% and VAT on the £550 . How are they going to prove what you paid for a certain car.
Ah lad! Where have you been? A value will be give to you. Its called the OMSP
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Ah lad! Where have you been? A value will be give to you. Its called the OMSP
That’s just for the VRT.
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Ah lad! Where have you been? A value will be give to you. Its called the OMSP
OMSP has nothing to with vat and import duty.
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Your car will stay in customs whilst they initiate proceedings for customs fraud.
They dont investigate you for customs fraud .

Presenting an item for customs clearance with a sales invoice for what you paid for an item is hardly illegal.

They can query the amount of the value declared and adjust it upwards if they want.

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They dont investigate you for customs fraud .

Presenting an item for customs clearance with a sales invoice for what you paid for an item is hardly illegal.

They can query the amount of the value declared and adjust it upwards if they want.
But you were giving an example of an invoice for £500 for an M3. That invoice would be fake and thus fraud.
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But you were giving an example of an invoice for £500 for an M3. That invoice would be fake and thus fraud.
It's all hypothetical but say I bought it from my cousin for £500 18 years ago that's not fraud. I'm not saying it right or wrong I'm just wondering how revenue would deal with such cases
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It's all hypothetical but say I bought it from my cousin for £500 18 years ago that's not fraud. I'm not saying it right or wrong I'm just wondering how revenue would deal with such cases
You would have proof of ownership for the last 18 years so wouldn’t be an issue.
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They dont investigate you for customs fraud .

Presenting an item for customs clearance with a sales invoice for what you paid for an item is hardly illegal.

They can query the amount of the value declared and adjust it upwards if they want.
No I'd say they wouldn't investigate , they'd just give you a bill and hold the car until paid.
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