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Seems like a good deal on coal....

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  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    Hi thank you for your reply. I am sorry they did not response to you sending the smokeless ovoid for testing.

    If you have time please could you ring them and find out why. Thanks

    If about time smokeless coal manufacturer started to treat consumer with some respect.

    To start with they should be made to print on there package the following information. To help us choose

    what the Ovoid's are made of and in what percentage.

    The ash percentage.

    The calorific values of the smokeless coal.

    Sulphur content



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1521046097948030/permalink/7767672403285337/?sale_post_id=7767672403285337&mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    Coal warehouse is offering free delivery again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    Coal warehouse new price list



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭taytobreath


    can anyone comment on the smokeless ovoids in coal warehouse in comparison to the easyglow ones, or could they compare against the rest, i have been buying locally the last year but the ash it leaves behind is too much



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭naughto


    No difference in price from there last price update just that there's free delivery



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,630 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    fuel prices won’t change at this time of year its old stock being cleared with free delivery

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,916 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    So, with all the valuable knowledge here, when's going to be the best time to buy for next winter ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭wassie


    Typical seasonal pricing on coal was thrown out the door with Covid & inflation. Retail prices last year did not fall in any way proportionately to the drops wholesale price drops. There were small price drops in May/June last year, but nothing really significant thereafter.

    In previous years, the end of summer would be a good time to buy. I waited all last summer and prices didn't drop for Columbian. I ended up ordering in 1st week of October out of necessity.

    We may start to a return to seasonal pricing this year, but its anyones guess. So best time to buy - whenever it goes on sale.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    Hi on the 24 April, the last time they did free delivery. I payed £387.00 for a ton of smokeless ovoid. I just check on the websites and the price is now £384.00.

    Plus if they delivery to southern Ireland they have to pay the new carbon tax



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,734 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    A tonne of ovoids delivered for €450 is decent. Can anyone beat that?



  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Grahamknowles


    Placed an order myself this morning too. There's no knowing what way the price will go so decided to take this offer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭OnLooker


    I got it for €440 a tonne. They have me a discount as I ordered 2 tonnes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭taytobreath


    i ordered a tonne too on tuesday, still no sign of delivery tho



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    Hi @taytobreath have your delivery from the coal warehouse been delivered yet ? They where very quick with my order.

    thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    Smokeless coal express are having a sale again !!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭taytobreath




  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Keith1111


    How does everyone store there coal outside currently I have plastic sheet over mine against back wall but when it rains water gattars on top on and went to fill coal bunker and noticed some coal was wet. Now not sure from the rain or delivery. And also how long is coal good for stored outside I have enough for this year and probably next year but if I see a good price I don't mind getting more.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    Hi coal it best stored in a bunker. It will sweat in the bags. If you look on FB marketplace their are usually coal bunker going cheap. Plastic is usually the better tgan metal bunker soon start to rust.

    From personal experience I would not buy anymore coal now. But the choice is yours



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  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    Good hope it not raining for you. When the wagon turn up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,630 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    I have my bunker full and a pallet of coal wrapped in thick plastic, if you try and stack it so the rain falls off it will be better, I fashioned up a wooden frame at the four corners of the pallet with a fall at the front.

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭wassie


    Plus if they delivery to southern Ireland they have to pay the new carbon tax

    No they dont.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    Hi I am puzzled @wassie I am was going off a news report on a websites

    where it said

    "As the law stands, you can drive into the North and buy a few bags for your own use without paying tax. But if you order coal from Northern Ireland, carbon tax is due, and the Revenue should be notified."

    Link to full news report.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/investigations-unit/2022/0407/1291067-smoky-coal-sold-low-smoke-zones/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭wassie


    The key word in your quote is "should" - People should. But they don't.

    I think you have misread that article. Nowhere does it imply that anyone in the North is collecting carbon tax in the Republic. In fact, not only does the article discuss that it is not happening, but also how suppliers are getting around this.

    Moreover, it is apparent to anyone following this thread that no one from the Republic is ordering coal from the North and paying the carbon tax, either to the supplier or the Revenue itself.

    __________________________

    But if anyone feels the need to relieve themselves of the burden of the carbon tax, PM me and I'll send you my details for payment to sort it on your behalf 😁

    /s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,630 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    imagine contacting the tax man to pay carbon tax 🤣

    The internet isn’t for everyone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭wassie


    Revenue “Hello this is Revenue, how can I help today?”

    Diligent Citizen “I want to know how to pay carbon tax due on a tonne of coal I bought from the North”

    Revenue “Hey Seamus, we got a live one here”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭Invincible


    The Belfast agreement involving free trade covers this scenario.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭taytobreath


    Are there any bunkers that would hold a tonne of coal? I looked and couldn't find any, I think tarpaulin is the quickest and cheapest method if done right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭naughto


    If you empty the bags in would it not hold a tonne



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,630 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    The internet isn’t for everyone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    If there was it would get awkward to empty I would imagine,too much pressure on the door when full and too dar back when half or less full.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad




  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    Hi one of my bunker will will hold half a ton.

    when it full I take the smokeless ovoid from the top door, until I am half away down it does help having long arms. Rather than the bottom door makes it lot easier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,630 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    My idea of a bunker is a raised unit off the ground for easy access so you open the door and bucket is full, I have a galvanised 6 bag bunker sitting on blocks near the back door

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Grahamknowles


    Got ovoids from.cw and am happy (can't believe I had a chance to test them in June!). I'm thinking about buying a ton of anthracite or similar and mixing. Any thoughts? And if so, I can't really work out the anthracite side of things. Am I right in thinking the esse is the pure form? Are there any other ones that are anthracite or already mixed?

    Apologies if a daft question but new to coal



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    Hi anthracite ESSE ars small anthracite and yes it is pure. It look like normal coal but it is more shine

    I have a open fire and muiltfuel stove which run 8 rads and our hot water. On the stove I use anthracite.

    mixing anthracite with smokeless ovoid will make the anthracite burn to quickly in my experience.

    once you get the anthracite buring control the burn strengths with your bottom air vent.

    anthracite is best used when you need your stove on for 24 hours, 7 days a week.

    The cheapest price for a ton of anthracite ESSE online I seen was on the click coal website. Which was £650

    The advantage of anthracite.

    clean burning it is natural smokeless.

    Long burn time a full stove will burn for more than 12 hours without refuelling.

    Give out more heat per kg than smokeless ovoid

    It is waterproof it does not suck up water like ovoid.

    disadvantages

    The price

    It is very hard to make a fire with it.

    What I do, when the stove is cold I make a fire with smokeless ovoid. Then add the anthracite once the ovoid are burning.

    when stacked for a long period of time the anthracite in the bottom bags starts to break up.

    In the bags you will always get some slack.

    You may also want to try LCC Hi Lite is also known as 'Ecobrite'.. Which is a small man made smokeless ovoid which is made of 96% anthracite duff and 4% starch binding agent. Which click coal have for sale at £500 @ ton.

    If I can be of further help please ask.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Grahamknowles


    Wow thank you so much for such a comprehensive reply. I have a multi fuel feeding 15 rads here...gave up turf a couple of years ago, love wood but needs too much tending.

    Would the great details you gave re anthracite also apply to LCC Hi Lite/Eco Brite? In terms of not mixing etc etc.

    Thanks again



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    Hi have never used LCC Hi lite so would be hard for me to say. But I think If you mix it with anthracite it would make the anthracite burn a little bit more quickly than burning anthracite on it own.

    The anthracite would burn more quickly if you mix them with coal warehouse smokeless ovoid because they contain pet coke house coal which both burn very quick on stove.

    where have LCC HI lite does not contains pet coke and house coal

    Any made made smokeless ovoid which can be used on open fire and stove will make anthracite burn more quickly.

    If I had a stove of your size I would burn Large anthracite nuts in winter time when you need 24/7 heat. Or a man made smokeless ovoid which can only be burn on stove



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    A quick tip when making a fire with smokeless ovoid. I found if I use a broken ovoid and then I put the broken side of a ovoid next to the fire lights and kindling. The fire will get in more easily.

    even this morning when I had strong wind coming down the Chimney



  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Grahamknowles


    Thanks Lancashire-lad i will take your advice - there are some periods in winter when the 24/7 is needed. last one - i promise! - by large anthracite nuts - do you mean the ESSE stuff, or something like the Ecobrite you mentioned. thanks again. every day is a school day!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,630 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    there is a private message option if you two want to get a room

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Dave_D_Rave


    Lads apologies in advance if a stupid question but is the smoky coal ban ineffect allover ireland?

    Or still just in towns



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad


    No worries anthracite large nut is next size up anthracite ESES is the small size.

    anthracite small nut are 22mm to 45mm

    anthracite large nuts are 45mm to 65mm.

    when you burn anthracite you will see very little flame after you got it burn. It will glow orange with a small blue flame now and again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Grahamknowles


    Whole country now Dave



  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Grahamknowles


    Thanks again for your advice - much appreciated. And also for pointing me in the direction of what seems like a good deal, as per the forum topic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,630 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    easyglow.ie


    Use the code 25OFF at checkout to automatically receive €25 off each tonne ordered.

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,624 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Doesn't seem a huge difference in price among any of them, is there any recommendations on who to go with (or avoid) in terms of product quality, or indeed customer service?

    Looking at getting a ton for the stove, is smaller ovoids the best to go with?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭naughto


    Coal Warehouse for me



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Lancashire-lad




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭amber2


    I found the large ovoids better than the small ones wouldn’t buy the small again.



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