Are dogs being stolen in your area?

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Chalk marks spotted outside houses on main road yesterday, and on my road this morning. They're getting closer...

It'll be the "skid" marks next.

anewme wrote: »

I'd say very well taken care of..but clearly missing their owner and probably pining.

I dont know if you are following the story of Topsey and Turvy, but the family have today issued a statement to say that their Turvy was found in the same group of dogs as that little dog in Mallow. The same man had both, which he was trying to sell.

Reasons like he didnt know their dog was stolen when he was trying to sell it....He alleges he bought Turvy off his cousin who got Turvy off a man who swopped her for a pony.

How are these people getting away with this?

Prosecuting the cases is going to be very difficult. Unless his cousins uncles friends mothers parrot is gonna rat them all out in a 1980s British comedy sketch fashion, how do you prove any of it absent CCTV or similar evidence?

The solution is perhaps to mandate in law with harsh penalties that you must follow a proper chain of custody with a dog to have it in your possession or else it's assumed stolen and you get a big slap.

But go back to the point about the money that the dogs are being sold for. For many of the individuals involved I'd say they're the free legal aid brigade with a hard story and a dozen or more previous convictions anyway. The cost/benefit ratio of stealing dogs is pretty favourable and sure if they weren't stealing dogs it'd be copper wires or just plain burglary when we all get out of the house.

People buying dogs have a major responsibility and culpability here, too. Check for proper papers and don't go doing deals you know are smelling fishy.

anewme wrote: »

There is a group Do Better Done Deal, that report each ad that breaches the guidelines.

I’ve reported 3 adds on donedeal in the past for counterfeit golf clubs. They don’t give a fcuk.

11 Puppies and 2 adult dogs originating in ireland seized at Scotland docks and returned to Ulster. Joint operation Ireland and Scotland. Seized in Ferry disembarking Scotland

Four of the puppies have since died of Parvo Virus. No paperwork.

YFlyer wrote: »

In Limerick City a number of years back a dog went missing. Number of hours later Alderman Michael Kelly got the dog back from a halting site in Newport.

For a smallish fee I'm sure.

Tilikum17 wrote: »

I’ve reported 3 adds on donedeal in the past for counterfeit golf clubs. They don’t give a fcuk.

A mass public campaign to shame them into it is the way to go.

allthedoyles wrote: »

Heard 3 dogs were stolen in this area today

Wheres this area?

Purple Mountain wrote: »

Where would one get a dog tattooed?!

Greyhounds ears tattooed with reg number. It's a regular occurrence to find greyhounds who've been abandoned with ear cut off.
We live in a very rural area, neighbours gates had the tie wraps, they have a king Charles. What doesn't make sense to me is dog is never in front garden, back is hidden from view and dog is driven to park for walks. Rumours of drones being used but I think that's far fetched.

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Just looking through done deal.

See one dog that has a microchip number listed but in the details it says it’s unregistered. Are they two different things?

Any dog can be microchipped. The vets do it for you 2 minutes job.You then log your details online to match the chip.
Registration For breeds is for pedigree dogs and the crowd that registers them is the Irish kennel club.for registration both parents must also be registered and have papers.
If a dog is for sale but is unregistered it’s 99 percent of the time a dodgey fcuker selling it that couldn’t register it because the parents aren’t pure bred and registered but he will talk sh1te about how well bred it is.
A fancy mongerel at pedigree prices and a gullible fool willing to buy it.
If they’re unregistered they aren’t worth a quarter of the asking price

In terms of "pushing it offline", to be honest this will only further drive culpability onto people who are looking for and buying these dogs. If you have to go to "ad" sites that also have listings for prostitutes and drugs then you know full well you're probably not buying from dog loving quakers. The wilful blindness of many people purchasing a dog, who would later be devastated if anything happened to their cherished family pet, is mind boggling.

Hopefully the gardai and port authorities now will keep extra eyes out for attempted exports to the UK, where dog prices have also shot up.

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

If the dogs are being transported to the UK. Would it be gumtree rather than DoneDeal that they’d be using?

There's several channels it seems. Dogs being found in the port both going out and coming in - ie, stolen in the UK and brought here or vice versa. But local dogs are also being re-sold in Ireland. Also puppies bred from stolen dogs (or just plain stolen). There are pure domestic sales, ie lifted here and re-sold here.

There's no real excuse for buying a dog that doesn't have proper papers. Every dog should be chipped and the chip registered to the breeder, who is verified. If it's a second hand dog, so to speak, the owners should have papers linked to a chip. If you're out purchasing and these things don't line up, you're culpable in trafficking stolen goods (let alone someone else's treasured pet) and perpetuating the misery for these poor things.

Purple Mountain wrote: »

Where would one get a dog tattooed?!

You wouldn't legally. It would come under the category of unnecessary surgery like tail docking & is now illegal.

Det Sgt Reidy says there has been “an increase, absolutely, in dog thefts” in the region since lockdown. “We had 14 dogs stolen from a single breeder. And we had up to 50 dogs stolen in the Limerick area alone in the past few weeks. The price of all dogs has gone through the roof in recent times. It’s become a very lucrative industry.”

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/inside-the-dog-trafficking-trade-after-drugs-it-s-guns-then-pups-1.4324714

anewme wrote: »

The Gardai would want to exercise some joined up thinking on this one. I believe they have now said that a pulse number will issue to every stolen dog reported. Their press office recently issued a statement saying no increase in dog thefts and 67 dogs reported stolen in total in ROI in the period January to June.

The problem is that, as I think you said earlier, the Gardai have been so hit & miss when it come to anything to do with animal welfare. Then there is the problem that so many people allow their dogs to stray & don't microchip.

I became personally aware years ago when a group, from a particular community, approached me in Kerry & "offered" to buy my Saluki. At one point one of them was trying to pull the lead away from me.

The Unbearables wrote: »

Haven't seen a stray dog in years. It was common place years ago but very rare now.

Come to the West. When I say stray I don't mean homeless. These are dogs that the owners allow to wander. I could of taken a beautiful pedigree Labrador - she spends time with me every week & we aren't certain where she lives.

...no, just hysterical looders posting pics everywhere of dogs, and white vans acting suspiciously...…


Fupping idiots ….

mud wrote: »

The dog Molly was stolen by a neighbour and sold on for a pittance to someone who could smuggle her out of the country. By the time Molly's family traced the connection the dog was already in the UK.

Ive read Molly's owners indirect response to the local thief and it is very blunt, direct and cutting. It is clear they know exactly who it is.

This is the person who needs to be held accountable for Molly and where the laws need to be tougher.

Large Garda Operation has resulted in seizing 32 stolen dogs in Swords. Monetary value of dogs seized reported to be in excess of 120k. Time for CAB to get involved in what is clearly organised crime.