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Why arent many female comedians funny ?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    greenspurs wrote: »
    Why are you suddenly obsessed with me ??? :eek:


    I wasn't trying to be funny ……



    *tumbleweed

    Ok, taking you at your word, genuine question then, when you say "you triggered" and "you ok hon", what are you trying to do? Is it a genuine attempt at making some kind of serious point?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    loalae wrote: »
    I like Aisling Bea, Ellie Taylor, and Sara Pascoe.

    I don't agree that women comedians are not as funny as men - some are truly terrible but that is true of men as well. Gender and sex don't determine whether someone is funny.


    It does though. Men tend to be funnier than women, or that is the case if you're watching comedy as a man. Which is ok. There's loads of shít that men tend to be terrible at that women are really good at. A lot of those attributes seem to involve not having an overwhelming desire to destroy the planet in the pursuit of money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    greenspurs wrote: »
    I wasn't trying to be funny ……


    Oh that was very obvious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    Ooh, Fern Brady, I'm going to see her next month, she's funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Yeah, I dunno, I saw some of her on the late late show at some stage.. fair bad..

    But as for funny women..the blond one on parks and recreation..Tina Fey..Mindy Kaling..Ellie Kemper.. Kristen Schall.. Eliza Schlesinger.. Kate Micucci..

    So there's a few..I dunno, maybe it's not for Irish women.. There's probably a tendency to go for tired period and sex jokes too, so a lot of that probably hasn't been funny since the 90s, and can very quickly come across as just crass..
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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    If we must split comedians by gender, comedians I don't find funny at all are in my opinion, in fact i would consider it torture to have to listen to any of them.

    Female:
    Alison Spittle
    Maura Higgins
    Deidre O Kane
    Roisin Conaty
    Jo Brand

    Male:
    Byrne (both of them)
    Josh Widdicombe
    Al Murray
    Des Bishop
    Jimmy Carr
    Michael Mc Intyre
    David O Doherty

    I'm sure there are others I just can't think of but after that its a mixture of okay up to comic genius.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Gay comedians aren't funny either..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Wayne Jarvis


    Gay comedians aren't funny either..
    They prefer the term Gaymedians.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    You obviously never watched Pam Ayres.

    Now she was funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Gay comedians aren't funny either..

    Larry Dean is fairly gas.

    There's plenty of good female comedians. At her best Tina Fey can't be touched at the kind of comedy she does. I agree many of those currently being pushed by RTE are dire, but I've felt that about the male ones it pushes for years and I'd say most people have too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Forgot the 2 women on The Mash Report, they are brilliant. Rachel Parris and Ellie Taylor.


    And Joe Lycett is gay and hilarious. Gaylarious?


  • Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    Gay comedians aren't funny either..

    What about Al Porter????

    Hilarious!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,694 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    Just listening to Miranda Hart. *ha ha* excellent!

    I will also always carry a flag for Nina Conti, - quirky, clever, uncomfortable...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Wayne Jarvis


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    Just listening to Miranda Hart. *ha ha* excellent!

    I will also always carry a flag for Nina Conti, - quirky, clever, uncomfortable...
    Yeah Nina Conti is really good too, very talented the way she literally controls so many people at once. Absolute ride of a woman too in my humble opinion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    Wanda Sykes is an excellent comedian too. I saw her stand up lately, excellent physical comedic parts to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Ok, taking you at your word, genuine question then, when you say "you triggered" and "you ok hon", what are you trying to do? Is it a genuine attempt at making some kind of serious point?

    Sarcastic, or maybe genuine concern ….

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    Wanda Sykes is an excellent comedian too. I saw her stand up lately, excellent physical comedic parts to it.
    Ooh, careful. You'll have the incels on here slagging her off doubly because of her race, whether they would admit to it or not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    Ooh, careful. You'll have the incels on here slagging her off doubly because of her race, whether they would admit to it or not.

    Jackpot time for the many of the pale, stale males that inhabit this place.

    Cranking themselves off around the clock because they've no luck with the ladies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Women comedians are very touchy. Look how Dawn French reacted to Pat Kenny.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    In order to be really funny comedians must be able to laugh at themselves, appear to be stupid, or inept, and be the butt of the joke.
    Male comedians seem to find this easier to do than female comedians. Most of the females that I have seen seem to want to prove how clever they and many are blatantly sexist, (e.g. Jo Brand).

    In order to be *really* funny you have to be self deprecating? Depends on your taste in humour I suppose but to say female comedians aren't self depricating enough is complete bs. I'm guessing you don't even try to give female comedians a chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    Jackpot time for the many of the pale, stale males that inhabit this place.

    Cranking themselves off around the clock because they've no luck with the ladies.
    My nephew is one of those. He's always giving out because my son's never had a problem meeting girls whereas my he can't get a sniff of fanny. It might help that my son is athletic, well-read and doesn't spend fifteen hours a week playing Sonic on the computer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    fatknacker wrote: »
    In order to be *really* funny you have to be self deprecating a man? .

    I amended your post to fine tune how young Roger actually thinks, Fatknacker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    Wanda Sykes is an excellent comedian too. I saw her stand up lately, excellent physical comedic parts to it.

    Conan O Brien has a podcast, it's just him interviewing comedians and actors he's known over the years, there's an episode with her and she's hilarious, very dry and dark.

    Actually that's a good podcast for anyone who's nerdily interested in comedy, and probably tortuous for anyone who's not, it's a lot of he and the guest just gushing at each other and dissecting jokes. The Bill Hader one just descends into them doing their favourite Simpsons lines for each other.

    The Michelle Obama and Stephen Colbert ones can be skipped, apart from that there's a whole first series that's very good and another on the way. Bill Hader, Mila Kunis and Nick Offerman/Megan Mullaly episodes are particularly great.


  • Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    My nephew is one of those. He's always giving out because my son's never had a problem meeting girls whereas my he can't get a sniff of fanny. It might help that my son is athletic, well-read and doesn't spend fifteen hours a week playing Sonic on the computer.

    If they didn't spend all their fcuking time playing the fcuking nintendo and wash occasionally they might come within an asses roar of getting a ride.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Conan O Brien has a podcast, it's just him interviewing comedians and actors he's known over the years, there's an episode with her and she's hilarious, very dry and dark.

    Actually that's a good podcast for anyone who's nerdily interested in comedy, and probably tortuous for anyone who's not, it's a lot of he and the guest just gushing at each other and dissecting jokes. The Bill Hader one just descends into them doing their favourite Simpsons lines for each other.

    Love Conan's podcast.

    Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee is very similar in dissecting jokes/humour. Both O'Brien and Seinfeld are masters in the field.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    If they didn't spend all their fcuking time playing the fcuking nintendo and wash occasionally they might come within an asses roar of getting a ride.
    Back in my day the idea of a grown man playing any of them computer games would genuinely be seen as perverse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    If they didn't spend all their fcuking time playing the fcuking nintendo and wash occasionally they might come within an asses roar of getting a ride.

    I think they can just walk up to them and say triggered or make a mother in law joke and then the woman will laugh and the woman will have sex with them because evolution though?


  • Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    I think they can just walk up to them and say triggered or make a mother in law joke and then the woman will laugh and the woman will have sex with them because evolution though?

    Ah yes. The stone cold 'knickerdropper' line.

    Gets them everytime.

    Prepare to be 'debriefed' ladies, there's a new stud in town with a rapist like wit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    I think its because of white male privilege.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    Only about three comedians are funny at any one time. Male or female. The rest are just flotsam and jetsam.

    My thoughts too. Most comedians are dreck.

    Jo Brand, Sarah Silverman and Aisling Bea frequently make me laugh.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    Aisling Bea is okay. Katherine Ryan I find mostly funny. Tina Fey is probably my favourite of the modern lot with her work on 30 Rock.

    Cecily Strong and Kristen Wiig are quite good too from what I've seen.

    I love Tina Fey. Genuinely laughed out loud numerous times whilst reading her memoir.

    Kristin Wiig is fantastic too though I think of her as a comic actress rather than a comedian.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    Women are too normal to be funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    Does anyone remember Smack The Pony? That was class.

    I don't think Kate McKinnon has been mentioned either.

    In a weird way I like when whatever variation of this theme comes up, I always remember or get reminded of loads of funny bitches I forgot about :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Wayne Jarvis


    Yeah I like Kate McKinnon & Cecily Strong too but I think SNL is terrible the last 5 years or so. They occasionally have a good sketch but it's mostly just awful stuff unfortunately.

    It's probably written by wimmin' :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    Guy Person wrote: »
    Yeah I like Kate McKinnon & Cecily Strong too but I think SNL is terrible the last 5 years or so. They occasionally have a good sketch but it's mostly just awful stuff unfortunately.

    It's probably written by wimmin' :P

    There have been fairly few periods where SNL's hit to miss ratio has been any good in the last ten or 20 years tbh! Andy Samberg and Lonely Island gave it a good, well timed, internet-friendly shot in the arm, I honestly could see it having been cancelled if that hadn't happened, and it's telling that he was a very atypical SNL cast member (can't do an impression to save his life).

    There's aren't many sketches I've laughed at over the past few years but the ones I have I've laughed heartily (the majority of those involving McKinnon). I dunno maybe there's just something about the production format that doesn't work in the 21st century. It's in a weird situation of being a thing that nobody thinks is very funny but continues to find and refine comedians who go on to be huge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Does anyone remember Smack The Pony? That was class.

    I went out with Doon Mackichan's cousin in a previous life. Which was nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    The laughing at yourself thing is interesting, imo each gender tends to think their own is the more self deprecating or able to laugh at themselves.

    Ahhhhh, maybe that’s the wrong term and neurosis was more what I’m talking about?

    If I think about some of comedians who have really made me laugh like Seinfeld, Larry David, Louis CK or Woody Allen, and who’ve had a huge impact on comedy and are critically acclaimed, a lot of their humour is of the from, "here’s what eloped consider normal funeral etiquette and here’s why they’re wrong". There’s a real soul-laid-bare, get it off your chest feel to their material that you don’t find in many female stand up's material.

    Aisling Bea and Jo Brand are both self deprecating in their acts but it tends to be stuff about bodily functions or embarrassing situations they found themselves in but there’s little enough insight into their mindset from it.

    Tina Fey dabbles in it in the guise of Liz Lemon but other than that Dorothy Parker is the only one who springs to mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    SNL has never been funny. It’s a weird, American right of passage for some comedians though. They of course occasionally strike gold like with this Cecily Strong bit:


    Does anyone remember Smack The Pony? That was class.

    Would you like some desssrrt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Wanda Sykes is very good. Bits I've seen of Suzi Ruffel were good.

    But by and large, female comedians aren't great in comparison to male comedians. My missus has genuinely tried to prove this point wrong and very sadly admitted her failure after about ten minutes of Aisling Bea when she begged me to turn it off. I'm no fan of Alison Spittle either.

    I seem to have had more success watching live stand-up of less popular comedians though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    In fairness there are a lot of crap comedians of both sexes, but it has been very common for women to not be considered funny, which seems unfair.

    I have always found the following women funny..

    Tracy Ullman
    Kerry Godliman
    Victoria Wood
    Dawn French
    Jennifer Saunders
    Joanna Lumley - she comes with the exquisite bonus of being sexy as well , not all that common anymore, that blonde American Amy Schumer, she is neither funny or sexy, what a travesty and why were we not informed of this earlier?
    Bette Middler
    Joan Rivers
    Sharon Horgan - really funny and really clever = also sexy , she has it all, almost.

    Mary Hannigan - hilarious every day
    Miriam Lord - one off our wittiest writers, after me.

    The girl on the bus last week who made snide remarks about all the **** sitting at the top window, thanks for the experience , belly laughs are important, I value them.

    This list is not exhaustive.

    It is also worth noting that comedy like music is a very subjective thing. Every comedian will tell you stories of times they " bombed " on stage. Comedy is not unlike sex, sometimes you just are not horny enough and not in the mood.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 106 ✭✭Enough is Enough!


    Women don't need to be funny to attract a man. If a woman laughs at a man's jokes, he finds that attractive. The man on the other hand, has to be able to make the woman laugh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Women don't need to be funny to attract a man. If a woman laughs at a man's jokes, he finds that attractive. The man on the other hand, has to be able to make the woman laugh.

    Only if he's not particularly good looking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    There were funny comedians in the past, nowadays a female comedy act needs to be very political, card carrying feminist.

    I do like that Chinese American comedian though, filthy mouth


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    Romesh Ranganathan's agent is a fcuking genius.

    To get that fella the amount of exposure he enjoys is really top notch representation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Can’t stand Deirdre o’Kane. The sound of her voice is excruciating. She presented the 6 o’clock show on tv3 for a long time and she was just the most dreadful of anchor. She wasn’t able to have a conversation with any guest and she would just make everything about her and what she thought or would do. She is an absolute pain in the hole and I wish I didn’t have to see her on tv or hear her voiceovers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Or for those of us who prefer not to think at all, just boil that on down to "women aren't funny hnarf arf arf"


    :D:D:D:D:D:D

    Its sad that women on here take a topic pointing out an observation, and get butt hurt about it.
    "hnarf arf arf" ….. Me toooooo? its funny

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Can’t stand Deirdre o’Kane. The sound of her voice is excruciating. She presented the 6 o’clock show on tv3 for a long time and she was just the most dreadful of anchor. She wasn’t able to have a conversation with any guest and she would just make everything about her and what she thought or would do. She is an absolute pain in the hole and I wish I didn’t have to see her on tv or hear her voiceovers.

    She is the one who does those electrical adverts too, right? The queen of nasal post ironic world weariness. Those adverts are soooo bad. If I ever wanted an electrical scooter I would buy it in the place for which she does not advertise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,039 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    greenspurs wrote: »
    :D:D:D:D:D:D

    Its sad that women on here take a topic pointing out an observation, and get butt hurt about it.
    "hnarf arf arf" ….. Me toooooo? its funny

    It’s really not.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Wayne Jarvis


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    There were funny comedians in the past, nowadays a female comedy act needs to be very political, card carrying feminist.
    That's not true though. Nina Conti, Maria Bamford, Michelle Wolf, Chelsea Peretti, Fern Brady off the top of my head are not feminist type comedians. If you only look for a certain type then you will only see a certain type.

    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    I do like that Chinese American comedian though, filthy mouth
    What kind of parents would name their child filthy mouth?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    I'd be the first to give out about misogyny but the insults here are mostly just from those like a broken record going on about comic book guy types. Ye have your little gang who make nasty comments over and over saying the same thing on a loop. Particularly ironic is the guy who on other threads says derogatory things about his own daughter.


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