September Indian summer possiblity

In deepest of FI, GFS showing a monster of a high. High teens to low 20's in October? Sure why not.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I like to think that every extra warm dry day shortens winter by one day!

If this weather keeps up we might have to skip winter & move straight to spring

I don't get the complaining this time.

It might be hot in direct sunlight but there is no oppressive humidity and its cold at night.

I'd take this weather all day every day.

Daily Fail reporting that we need to be prepared for an Indian October

Now that I think of it, I seem to recall saying to people after the first falls of snow of 26th Nov-26th Dec 2010, how amazing it was how it was literally only a few weeks ago that we had experienced near T-Shirt weather. ie. That we'd had a very mild October, first 3 weeks of November Autumnal and then Boom!!!! WINTER SNOW!!

Am I imagining that? Was Oct 2010 very mild?

Rikand wrote: »

Daily Fail reporting that we need to be prepared for an Indian October

Octember is the correct month for that native-American summer, imo.

September October Indian summer possibility........
This is incredible for the time of year! Surely this means into the twenties? Hopefully it comes off.
http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014092312/ECM0-192.GIF?23-0

ECM FI showing 13-14 degree 850 temps over Ireland on Oct 2nd.



A long way off and unlikely to verify, but I think you might see temperatures up to around 23 with that given the time of year. 25.2 is the all time October record.

leahyl wrote: »

I want Autumn weather!!! :mad:......:o

November 11th-17th I've heard. Tickets from the usual outlets.

Winter resumes its residency thereafter.

Very warm air aloft now (for later today) and the question is one of how much mixing might occur, the earlier indications for Friday have shifted more to today's time frame although I'm not convinced that Friday would be necessarily much cooler as greater mixing will compensate for cooler support.

Looking at Nov 2010, remember too that the first five or six days of that month were quite mild, I recall days near 17 C and nights near 13 C for a while, then there was a strong wind event around the 12th, before the circulation began to change gradually to the major trough feature over the eastern half of the Atlantic and western Europe. That cold spell developed gradually from a near-normal northeast flow around the 15th to 18th or thereabouts.

Does thread title have to now include October Indian Summer possibility

As things stand 20c is not at all out of the question for the first week of October. Could even get a 21 or 22 somewhere in Ireland.

September has seen some remarkably dry weather in Sligo however I have
had warmer Septembers. I was wondering how this could be but as I look through the last 26 days with 23 of them completely dry I see a good number of them has single digit NIGHT temperatures thereby negating the high daytime values e.g in other years I had 17 and 12 by night a lot but clear skies have put 2014 in a position of 20 and 8 by night a lot which is actually a lower average or IMT as its called in these parts.

Esel wrote: »

I thought October (i.e not September) was a must for this?

For America, it is, but we're further north than them.

In North America, the term Indian Summer is generally associated with warm spells after the first frost, with the leaves fully turned colour, and so is usually well into October and for southern states probably November. Intervals that I recall being described as Indian summer in the Great Lakes region might include most of Oct 1963 and 1971, and a period from late Oct to Nov 10 1975 ending with the "Edmund Fitzgerald" windstorm. It would be unusual to hear anyone speaking of Indian summer in September because normally the weather is more like a continuation of late summer and the leaves are not turning, nor has there been a frost, most years.

The term, as some here might have already posted, appears to have begun with the pioneers about two centuries ago. They became used to these spells of hazy warm weather with smoky haze that they learned was associated with massive burning of grasslands. Whether or not they were correct, they linked that to the activities of the Indian people who lived in those regions. Quite possibly the smoke haze was actually from more distant western forest fires which would have raged quite unchecked back in those decades. Anyway, the terminology seems to have drifted a bit off course in its European usage, and seems to show up more in September, without any real reason to associate it with Indians at all. But that's your problem more than mine, I am quite busy these days fighting largely pointless battles with anal retentives over precise meanings of other words, which is why I keep disappearing in September, once the grass burning season, now the internet freedom of speech defense season. Still a lot of crap in the air, anyway.

20 here in Waterford today. Lovely sunny day. Hard to believe its almost October when you're outside.

Lincoln Greasy Seance wrote: »

I need it to be warm and dry on Friday.

Current indications are that you're going to be disappointed.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Its nearly over folks! Tomorrow is the last mild day and by Friday it'll be pissing down

What about all the talk of a hot October