All Things Met Eireann Related Go in Here (MOD NOTE #1)

icesnowfrost · 19-03-2013 8:49pm

Loads of snow this morning with blizzard like conditions in Drogheda. ot melted by 2pm though. more on the way tomorrow I think. No new thread to write in so I said I'd put it in here. I can't open a new one from my phone. Im surprised no one opened at thread

acassells80 · 24-03-2013 12:16pm

They can't even forecast for the next 3 hours!! At 6am said we would have precipitation at 9am and the same for 11am, radar is clear with nothing to show!!

icesnowfrost · 25-03-2013 1:07pm

Is there a thread open about the currant weather ?

ZX7R · 27-03-2013 5:05pm

Quite confused by Met Eireann today, on the 3pm forecast not a menchion of an orange weather alert on there forecast ,yet they have on there home web page.If they think having an orange alert on line they should have it on there televised forecast

Rougies · 27-03-2013 5:50pm

ZX7R wrote: »

Quite confused by Met Eireann today, on the 3pm forecast not a menchion of an orange weather alert on there forecast ,yet they have on there home web page.If they think having an orange alert on line they should have it on there televised forecast

Not anymore

EDIT: I'm blind :P

Speak Now · 27-03-2013 5:54pm

Rougies wrote: »

Not anymore

http://www.met.ie/nationalwarnings/default.asp

ZX7R · 27-03-2013 5:55pm

Rougies wrote: »

Not anymore

It's still on there home page

STATUS ORANGE

Snow-ice Warning for Dublin, Kildare, Louth, Wicklow and Meath

Further snow showers today and tonight in the east with accumulations up to 5cm.
Issued:
27 March 2013 10:00
Valid:
27 March 2013 10:00 to 28 March 2013 09:00

but there is no weather warning on there forecast page:D

ZX7R · 27-03-2013 6:01pm

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

http://www.met.ie/nationalwarnings/default.asp

What i meant was Gerry never mentioned it o the 3pm forecast

mike65 · 02-04-2013 3:51pm

I heard two instances of met.error people on the radio this morning/lunchtime and both talked of rain at the weekend as temperatures rise. One quick look at the pressure charts and rain charts says dry.

jprboy · 02-04-2013 5:49pm

Right, Mike, will venerate or slate you as appropriate, once the evidence is in

mike65 · 30-04-2013 10:38pm

General : A lot of dry weather. Temperatures recovering. Wettest period is most likely late Thursday night and Friday.

Cool and misty on Wednesday night, with a few patches of fog and drizzle in places. Lowest temperatures of 2 to 5 C. Towards dawn, some rain may well develop along the northwest coast.
Thursday will be cloudy and misty over much of Ulster and Connacht, with some rain. It should be mainly dry and rather misty elsewhere, with a mixture of cloudy periods and bright or short sunny spells - these best in southern coastal counties. Highs of 12 to 15 C., are expected in moderate southwest breezes. Wet weather will develop countrywide later in the night, with some heavy rain over Connacht and Ulster.

Friday looks like being a very wet day in all areas, with some heavy rain at times. Top temperatures of 11 to 13 C. A clearance will spread down from the north late in the afternoon or evening and winds will veer northwesterly. Friday night will be cold, with some patches of mist, fog and grass frost.

The forecast for the May holiday weekend is still in the balance. At this stage, it looks as if there should be a good deal of dry, bright weather, with sunny spells most days and just occasional showers. Temperatures too could well get up into the mid teens, possibly higher. But Atlantic weather systems will never be too far away. So there is a risk, that some damp weather, may intrude from the Atlantic, from time to time. So keep in tune with the updates.

:rolleyes: another Met error special, who writes these forecast articles?

Speak Now · 01-05-2013 8:22am

mike65 wrote: »

:rolleyes: another Met error special, who writes these forecast articles?

That looks like its written by Siobhan

Duggys Housemate · 01-05-2013 10:14am

What's wrong with that forecast.

mike65 · 01-05-2013 10:54am

Its starts with General : A lot of dry weather and then lists nothing but predicted rain events! The forecast may well be right but that opening sentence sets a misleading tone. I've noticed how some forecasters are far too lax with their language resulting in the suggestion of things being better than is actually what they mean to say.

jkforde · 13-05-2013 9:35am

anyone know why the rain radars are so intermittent? when playing the rain radar animation sometimes Dublin is offline, sometimes Shannon is offline.. any idea why? are they just faulty or is it do with patchy data transmission with HQ in Glasnevin?

Comhrá · 13-05-2013 11:46am

jkforde wrote: »

anyone know why the rain radars are so intermittent? when playing the rain radar animation sometimes Dublin is offline, sometimes Shannon is offline.. any idea why? are they just faulty or is it do with patchy data transmission with HQ in Glasnevin?

I emailed Met Eireann a few months back when the first prolonged Shannon radar outage occurred and they replied saying repairs were being carried out, or something to that effect. When the service was restored, then started stopping intermittently, I again sent a query but got no reply.

ME has a wonderful website but they seem to fall down sometimes with keeping the public informed as to the reasons for these ongoing radar outages.

Lots of people like this service but ME don't seem to acknowledge this. A shame really.

On their website:
http://www.met.ie/contactus/

Contact Form

We welcome queries and constructive comments about all aspects of our services. They will be circulated among relevant members of our staff and wherever possible we will endeavour to respond within two weeks.

Before contacting us, please check if our frequently asked questions have already provided an answer to your query.

If you wish to comment on a particular forecast, please state as clearly as you can when and from where you obtained the forecast.

Sarcastic, abusive or aggressive communications will not be responded to.

jkforde · 13-05-2013 10:42pm

sent them a quick query & got a very fast reply...

"Thanks for the query. We gave the Shannon radar a major upgrade of its mechanical system last year, but unfortunately the electrical component is now giving trouble. Until such time as monies are made available for a replacement, we’re unfortunately stuck with what we have."

jasus, it's some state we have, we pathetically whine that we can't afford a fix the national forecast radar service but we're passively paying six-figure salaries to some mediocre public employees (not aiming at MÉ here, there are lots of other examples!) ....argh, it's time for us to decide what kind of civil republic we want!
/rant

Discodog · 15-05-2013 11:18am

jkforde wrote: »

sent them a quick query & got a very fast reply...

"Thanks for the query. We gave the Shannon radar a major upgrade of its mechanical system last year, but unfortunately the electrical component is now giving trouble. Until such time as monies are made available for a replacement, we’re unfortunately stuck with what we have."

jasus, it's some state we have, we pathetically whine that we can't afford a fix the national forecast radar service but we're passively paying six-figure salaries to some mediocre public employees (not aiming at MÉ here, there are lots of other examples!) ....argh, it's time for us to decide what kind of civil republic we want!
/rant

I bet that a good manager could slash ME's spending & improve the service. The whole radar debacle is a joke. The upgrade was clearly mismanaged. I would privatise ME.

I rely on accurate forecasts for my business. The only ME tool that I use is the radar. The forecasts are too vague to be of any use. I rely on Sky News, yr. no & the weather online charts.

Re the animations they usually work on the mobile app when they aren't working on the main website.

Bsal · 17-05-2013 12:03am

The Shannon radar has been down for a good few hours now, and there is some nice showers being picked up by the Dublin radar in the midlands and west but unfortunetly they are becoming out of range.

jkforde · 17-05-2013 3:03am

Bsal wrote: »

The Shannon radar has been down for a good few hours now, and there is some nice showers being picked up by the Dublin radar in the midlands and west but unfortunetly they are becoming out of range.

unless I was a Arab goat herder or a drought-hit farmer I wouldn't put the word 'nice' next to 'shower'....ever!

...the only showers I like are roasting hot & last 10 mins!

back to the radar, maybe a few of us on here can each email the Dept of Environment with the simple specific aim of letting those in our permanent government know that people do give a damn about this unsexy yet critical piece of national infrastructure.

riffmongous · 17-05-2013 3:42pm

jkforde wrote: »

back to the radar, maybe a few of us on here can each email the Dept of Environment with the simple specific aim of letting those in our permanent government know that people do give a damn about this unsexy yet critical piece of national infrastructure.

I am pretty sure a radar is quite expensive though (I think I heard around a million for one, not sure), I doubt if emails would do anything, especially considering when I was back in Ireland they didn't even get a budget to hire staff for a few years.

mike65 · 19-05-2013 12:57pm

12.50 pm radio forecast! WTF?

Larbre34 · 20-05-2013 9:23am

Summer's coming fast according to the Met -

Friday temperatures will be between 10 and 132 C. Toasty.

Goody2Shoes77 · 20-05-2013 9:34am

Larbre34 wrote: »

Summer's coming fast according to the Met -

Friday temperatures will be between 10 and 132 C. Toasty.

Saw the same!

tphase · 21-05-2013 12:18pm

I notice there's been no daily data for a number of stations since the 17th of this month
although the latest reports have been updated hourly (at least for the station I've been checking).

Any comment from ME?

M.T. Cranium · 22-05-2013 2:40am

I use past and recent data quite a lot for contests and forecasting. Met E do a pretty good job on the whole and I'm most impressed with their rapid production of a monthly summary on the first business day of the month. I'm equally familiar with the national met service websites of various other countries and they all have strengths and weaknesses. The UK seem to have their historical data more hidden behind veils than the other countries. But each website has a different protocol for finding past data. The US update theirs very quickly also, under "climate" sections of data by state. Canada's weather service has a historical weather section that is usually updated within a day or two also.

On the whole, I think you have a very good national weather service for the size of country and budget especially, and I only try to compete to sharpen my own abilities rather than because I feel it's really needed (although my users tell me I usually have an edge on precip amounts, otherwise it's probably not that different).

These interruptions are usually caused when a key clerical staff person has a sick day or there's a communication problem as with Sherkin Island about a week ago, a power failure possibly made transmission of data difficult.

Israeli Superiority · 31-05-2013 12:45am

Never noticed this before, but Met Eireann have a 5-day Atlantic forecast.

mike65 · 10-06-2013 7:00pm

Why are the charts so poorly handled? Just watching the 6.55 on RTE1, the daily chart showed nothing but rain yet the summary five day chart shows sun and showers for the same day (Wednesday).

ninebeanrows · 10-06-2013 9:06pm

Israeli Superiority wrote: »

Never noticed this before, but Met Eireann have a 5-day Atlantic forecast.

Nice find, had not noticed them. Will come in handy especially during winter.

smokie72 · 10-06-2013 10:41pm

99.2 mm has fallen at casement for 22:00 according to met eireann :eek:

M.T. Cranium · 10-06-2013 11:08pm

It's a misprint for the trace code which is similar, sure that quality control will fix that before it reaches daily or monthly data.

Comhrá · 10-06-2013 11:14pm

Just looking at ME's archived lightning strike report for Sunday last, June 9th,
Three lightning strikes are listed in the North Midlands.

I thought Sunday was totally sunny all over the country.

Saturday's archived page also shows a few lightning strikes on what I believe was also a sunny clear day all over the country.

These lightning strikes weren't indicated on either http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=lightning;sess=
or
http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php?lang=en&subpage_0=12&subpage_3=3

What's up with the Met Eireann lightning indicator?

mike65 · 11-06-2013 4:05pm

Old diesel · 11-06-2013 5:11pm

Does anyone else thing that Audrey (cant think of her surname - sorry) comes up with some random forcasts at times.

Shes clearly been trained by a certain G Murphy - I mean this week Siobhan Ryan was talking about occasional rain - and to be frank that seems surprisingly accuate as the dry spells today were a lot longer then I expected and yesterday held up surprisingly well too (North Cork) - yet the next day (yesterday) Audrey is talking about these weather systems coming in from the Athlantic.

Youd think we were on for 50 mms of rain the way she was gong on about it - ive noticed that before with Audrey - you look at Met.ie (which lately ive realised is the same info used on the 7,55 am forecasts on RTE radio 1) - and then Audrey comes along with a different sounding forecast altogether.

Or have I been imagining it all.

jprboy · 11-06-2013 6:22pm

Old diesel wrote: »

Does anyone else thing that Audrey (cant think of her surname - sorry) comes up with some random forcasts at times.

Shes clearly been trained by a certain G Murphy - I mean this week Siobhan Ryan was talking about occasional rain - and to be frank that seems surprisingly accuate as the dry spells today were a lot longer then I expected and yesterday held up surprisingly well too (North Cork) - yet the next day (yesterday) Audrey is talking about these weather systems coming in from the Athlantic.

Youd think we were on for 50 mms of rain the way she was gong on about it - ive noticed that before with Audrey - you look at Met.ie (which lately ive realised is the same info used on the 7,55 am forecasts on RTE radio 1) - and then Audrey comes along with a different sounding forecast altogether.

Or have I been imagining it all.

McGrath?

I only ever see her presenting the "World Forecast" late at night on RTE2. Is she on at other times too?

Old diesel · 11-06-2013 8:40pm

jprboy wrote: »

McGrath?

I only ever see her presenting the "World Forecast" late at night on RTE2. Is she on at other times too?

Yes I think that's it - thought of it after my initial post.

She sometimes presents the weather after the 1 o clock news on RTE 1.

Storm 10 · 16-06-2013 1:22pm

What is Met E on about, just now on the farming forecast she said we had some nice dry warm weather to look foreward to until Friday,then she says "now it wont be dry all the time as fronts will move in from the West" just cant figure them out and what they say .

Old diesel · 16-06-2013 2:49pm

Storm 10 wrote: »

What is Met E on about, just now on the farming forecast she said we had some nice dry warm weather to look foreward to until Friday,then she says "now it wont be dry all the time as fronts will move in from the West" just cant figure them out and what they say .

She means I think that yes there would be some nice weather - but she was merely putting in a caveat that it wouldn't be perfect weather.

Unfortunately as im sure you noticed her screens/maps went down just before broadcast - so she had to wing it slightly without her technology - think she handled it all quite well tbh.

And in fairness - if her forecast turns out to be correct - then its not a bad week ahead imo.

Theres uncertainty regarding the weekend - apparently - but that's not such a bad thing - gives a bit of hope

.

pistolpetes11 · 21-06-2013 5:56pm

Folks this is not after hours , but also there is no hassle with some light banter but keep it clean its a family friendly forum, Im letting everything else go and going to blame it on the humidity, now away with the lots you's and enjoy what's left of the good weather

Welsh Wizard · 23-06-2013 9:21am

Why oh why don't they have the 3 hour forecast on their mobile site..?
That was so valuable...

jprboy · 24-06-2013 8:44pm

Here is Met Eireann's forecast as at 16.01 today. Note all the references to precipitation for the coming days up to and including Friday which I have highlighted. Then consider the final paragraph:

"Present indications suggest that the dry and settled conditions will persist into next weekend........" Is this a new definition for dry and settled? :pac:

24 June 2013 16:01

Today

Mainly dry with a few brighter or sunny spells developing this evening. However, turning dull with outbreaks of drizzle or light rain in the southwest later.
Tonight

Tonight, outbreaks of rain and drizzle will affect parts of Connaught and Munster, but Ulster and Leinster will stay mainly dry, with some clear spells for a time. Winds will become light, variable and it will be mild, lowest temperatures 9 to 11 degrees.

Tomorrow

Tomorrow will begin cloudy or overcast with patches of rain and drizzle spreading further east and north during the morning. The rain and drizzle will give way to a few well scattered showers for the afternoon but it will become mainly dry with sunshine likely. Light to moderate, northwesterly breezes will develop and temperatures will rise to between 15 and 18 degrees.

Outlook

Tuesday night: will be a largely dry night, although a few showers will affect parts of the northeast coast. It will be a little chilly with clear skies and temperatures will fall to between 6 and 9 degrees in light wind.

High pressure will cover the country on Wednesday and will give mainly dry conditions with some pleasant spells of sunshine. Highest temperatures will range from 15 to 19 degrees in light northwest winds. It will cloud over on Wednesday night as outbreaks of rain move into the northwest. Lowest temperatures of 6 to 10 degrees.

On Thursday outbreaks of rain will spread eastwards across the country during the morning and afternoon. Highs of 15 to 18 degrees in moderate westerly winds. The rain will clear to the east on Thursday night, but another band of rain looks like moving into the west coast.

On Friday there will be light outbreaks of rain during the day, with some brief sunny spells. It will be a little milder on Friday with highs of 17 to 20 degrees.

Present indications suggest that the dry and settled conditions will persist into next weekend, with temperatures in the high teens or the low twenties.

mike65 · 24-06-2013 11:15pm

I pointed out exactly the same contradiction a few pages back. Seems they have no one
who can marshal what they really intend to convey.

jprboy · 24-06-2013 11:37pm

mike65 wrote: »

I pointed out exactly the same contradiction a few pages back. Seems they have no one
who can marshal what they really intend to convey.

I knew you'd be along, Mike !

I propose you as marshal

Duggys Housemate · 24-06-2013 11:43pm

I've defended them before but....

Thats an extremely odd forecast. Some parts of Ireland will see rain every day from now until Saturday, and all parts will be wet Thursday and Friday, and then the last paragraph?

Nuts.

Welsh Wizard · 25-06-2013 7:47am

Is it not a way of covering their backs, as poor as it is

mattser · 25-06-2013 9:16am

Welsh Wizard wrote: »

Is it not a way of covering their backs, as poor as it is

Exactly. Just as it ever was.

Discodog · 25-06-2013 9:19am

We all know that ME are capable of accurate, detailed forecasts. The fact that they don't is probably due to Weatherdial & the commercial department. If they give detailed forecasts then no one would need to pay.

I rely on accurate forecasts. I find Sky, yr.no etc to be way more accurate than ME even though they are only computer projections.

mike65 · 25-06-2013 9:51am

This morning the summery weekend has been downgraded, expect an upgrade in 48 hrs! :pac:

Storm 10 · 25-06-2013 9:55am

Last night after the 9pm news Evelyn was on and she said that we were in for a fine warm weekend with high pressure over the Country and temps around 20 degrees, this morning Gerry was on the radio and he said that they did not see the weekend turning out as they thought yesterday and that present indications show cool temps with rain or showers, how in Gods name can it change so much in a few hours.

Harps · 25-06-2013 10:18pm

Storm 10 wrote: »

Last night after the 9pm news Evelyn was on and she said that we were in for a fine warm weekend with high pressure over the Country and temps around 20 degrees, this morning Gerry was on the radio and he said that they did not see the weekend turning out as they thought yesterday and that present indications show cool temps with rain or showers, how in Gods name can it change so much in a few hours.

We're going to be right on the boundary of the Azores high all week, a minuscule shift north or south changes everything. While it would be nice to see more use of probability & certainty/uncertainty in their forecasts, all they can do is give the best guidance available to them at the time of airing

All Things Met Eireann Related Go in Here (MOD NOTE #1)

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