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Throwback Thursday

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭john boye


    Correct me if I am wrong here; didn't the 45A originally run from An Lar before being cut short to conserve fuel, never to be fully restored?

    Was that during the war?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Correct me if I am wrong here; didn't the 45A originally run from An Lar before being cut short to conserve fuel, never to be fully restored?

    According to the book Dublin's Buses, the 45A was:
    - Dublin to Bray from 1930 to 1932
    - Dublin to Beaumont 1934 to 1936
    - Dublin to Bray from 1936 to 1942

    Then in 1942 as a wartime cutback it became Dun Laoghaire to Bray.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Csalem wrote: »
    According to the book Dublin's Buses, the 45A was:
    - Dublin to Bray from 1930 to 1932
    - Dublin to Beaumont 1934 to 1936
    - Dublin to Bray from 1936 to 1942

    Then in 1942 as a wartime cutback it became Dun Laoghaire to Bray.

    What book is that?:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Tarabuses


    Yes, the 45A operated City to Bray via Dun Laoghaire and Ballybrack during the years quoted from "Dublin Buses" (a book published in 1968 by Transport Research Associates).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    What book is that?:eek:

    Good book on history of bus services in Dublin up to 1968. Well worth getting if you find a copy:
    https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=30490416385&searchurl=sortby%3D20%26tn%3Ddublin%2527s%2Bbuses&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-title4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Csalem wrote: »
    Good book on history of bus services in Dublin up to 1968. Well worth getting if you find a copy:
    https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=30490416385&searchurl=sortby%3D20%26tn%3Ddublin%2527s%2Bbuses&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-title4

    Ha ha!

    I had it bought and all within minutes of seeing the response earlier on.

    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week we are back in Dun Laoghaire, this time to see KC 87 on the 111 in 1990.
    At this time the 111 was only four years old. It was one of a number of routes designed to connect in with the new electric DART train service. These DART feeder services included the the 88 in Howth, the 102 in Sutton, the 101 in Harmonstown, the 103 in Killester, the 90 at Connolly, the 52 at Sydney Parade, the 113 and 114 in Blackrock and the 111 in Killiney. The 111 connected Dun Laoghaire with Loughlinstown Park going via Sallynoggin. Over the years the route saw its frequency cut-back as the DART feeder concept slowly faded away. By 2009 it was a peak-hours only service, Monday to Friday. However, in 2015 a reorganisation of the Dun Laoghaire network took place, and the 111 went through a remarkable transformation. The 111 was rerouted to run from Brides Glen Luas stop to Dalkey, via Loughlinstown, Sallynoggin and Dun Laoghaire, as well as regaining an all-day timetable. Until 2018, the new timetable was Monday-Saturday, but when Go-Ahead Ireland took over the route, it became a seven-day operation.
    KC 87 was delivered new to Dublin in 1983.
    Finally, this area around Dun Laoghaire station has changed a lot over the last thirty years, with the buildings in the background replaced by an apartment and office block, the bus stops and shelters and have also been replaced, and most of the buses that park here now are operated by Go-Ahead Ireland. The 46A is the only Dublin Bus route to stop here.
    Dun Laoghaire, 17/04/2020

    49780842083_c727c061ac_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (223) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    How come the 7/7a pass by the station but don't stop there? Also, if you were to be pedantic about it, technically its not the only dublin bus route to stop there - the 7N also does ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    p_haugh wrote: »
    How come the 7/7a pass by the station but don't stop there? Also, if you were to be pedantic about it, technically its not the only dublin bus route to stop there - the 7N also does ;)

    Wouldn't be suitable as space is not there....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    p_haugh wrote: »
    Also, if you were to be pedantic about it, technically its not the only dublin bus route to stop there - the 7N also does ;)

    Not since March 20th :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    Wouldn't be suitable as space is not there....

    If only there was more forward thinking, there could have possibly been a proper bus interchange linking up with the ferry terminal and the train station! Obviously not as necessary now give the ferry no longer operates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    Csalem wrote: »
    Not since March 20th :D

    Touché :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    p_haugh wrote: »
    If only there was more forward thinking, there could have possibly been a proper bus interchange linking up with the ferry terminal and the train station! Obviously not as necessary now give the ferry no longer operates.

    There use to be ferry link buses and they would pull up at the old terminal....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    There use to be ferry link buses and they would pull up at the old terminal....

    Throwback Thursday (16):
    25953169244_858c67cbe6_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (16) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    I do have other shots of buses leaving the terminal building on what was the old railway line and station on the pier but have not uploaded them to Flickr yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    Ah right, I didn't realise that was the case


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭john boye


    Csalem wrote: »
    Throwback Thursday (16):
    25953169244_858c67cbe6_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (16) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    I do have other shots of buses leaving the terminal building on what was the old railway line and station on the pier but have not uploaded them to Flickr yet.

    Don't think that's a ferry bus, they didn't display a number iirc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    john boye wrote: »
    Don't think that's a ferry bus, they didn't display a number iirc.

    It was, driver couldn't be arsed changing it.....

    Ra 330 was an absolute bad backstard of a bus in my time, skinned my knuckles numerous times.

    Put in a complaint that dockets weren't taken seriously and I would be getting medical assistance next time.....

    2 days later you could wind the scroll with one finger.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Tarabuses wrote: »
    Yes, the 45A operated City to Bray via Dun Laoghaire and Ballybrack during the years quoted from "Dublin Buses" (a book published in 1968 by Transport Research Associates).
    Csalem wrote: »
    Good book on history of bus services in Dublin up to 1968. Well worth getting if you find a copy:
    https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=30490416385&searchurl=sortby%3D20%26tn%3Ddublin%2527s%2Bbuses&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-title4
    Ha ha!

    I had it bought and all within minutes of seeing the response earlier on.

    Thanks!

    Sorry to interrupt TBT, but this book finally arrived today.

    It's absolutely amazing. I never knew that the 79 terminated at the Ranch and then Kylemore Road before moving to spiddal park in the 1970s I guess with the 78s moving from Spiddal Park further West around then as well. Wow.

    I tell you what though, it certainly is the sort of thing that is prime for updating and re-issuing, especially with BusConnects coming down the tracks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Sorry to interrupt TBT, but this book finally arrived today.

    It's absolutely amazing. I never knew that the 79 terminated at the Ranch and then Kylemore Road before moving to spiddal park in the 1970s I guess with the 78s moving from Spiddal Park further West around then as well. Wow.

    I tell you what though, it certainly is the sort of thing that is prime for updating and re-issuing, especially with BusConnects coming down the tracks.

    Good to hear you got it and are enjoying it. It is the "bible" for the history of bus routes in Dublin.

    It would take a lot of work to update with all the changes in recent years. I did start a spreadsheet once in an attempt to update the chronology at the back, but it is a work in progress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Csalem wrote: »
    Good to hear you got it and are enjoying it. It is the "bible" for the history of bus routes in Dublin.

    It would take a lot of work to update with all the changes in recent years. I did start a spreadsheet once in an attempt to update the chronology at the back, but it is a work in progress.

    Sounds like a group task that could be done. The hivemind as it were.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Bus connects will be put on hold if not ran at all....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 1986 and D 485 is seen on College Street, partially dressed for the 56A. The route was a derivative of the 56 and connected the city centre with the areas of Crumlin and Walkinstown. In the early 1980s both routes shared a terminus on Middle Abbey Street but by 1984 it had been relocated to Aston Quay. D 485 seems a bit lost here. While the 56 terminated on Walkinstown Avenue, the 56A (which started in 1981) continued on to Ballymount Road, serving the industrial estate area there. In 1985, one of the peculiarities that often happened in Dublin occurred - the 56 was withdrawn and the 56A was extended to Fettercairn. The derivative outlived the original route. After The Square in Tallaght was opened, the 56A was further extended there, and it continues to run there to this day. On a side note, the 56A is the only bus route to pass the Go-Ahead Ireland garage in Ballymount.
    D 485 entered service with CIE in Limerick in 1973. It moved to Ringsend Garage in Dublin 1985 and was withdrawn in late-1986.
    College House which dominates the skyline in the background was built in 1974 and demolished in 2019. The location of the bus stops is now a tram stop on the Luas Green Line. 23/04/1986

    49809639053_803f898331_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (224) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭clunked


    I'd say D485 was on the 55s with the scroll pulled down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭rx8


    The 55 I think was a Donnybrook route,(not 100% on that) but as said above the 56A was Ringsend. It definitely was in Donnybrook when the Imps were operating the renamed 155 in the mid Nineties.
    I drove the 50's and 56A's, which were collectively known as 'Crumlin' routes in Ringsend Garage from June 2002 to April 2011. At one stage they re-introduced the 56, which terminated at the Fire station in Dolphins Barn. It used to drive the passengers crazy, when you turned in to Rutland Avenue and stopped at the Fire station. Mainly because nobody really looks at the number on the front.... They really only see a bus and sometimes An Lar, on the front. The 56A still operates from Ringsend Garage to the Square in Tallaght, but there are only 2 buses on the route now, and it carries very few passengers. The 50 part of the schedule, which served Kilnamanagh, Belgard Road, Killinarden and Citywest, was removed in the late 2000's. I think the main reason it has survived to this day, is that it provides cover for the Luas, in case of a breakdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭clunked


    rx8 wrote: »
    The 55 I think was a Donnybrook route,(not 100% on that) but as said above the 56A was Ringsend. It definitely was in Donnybrook when the Imps were operating the renamed 155 in the mid Nineties.
    I drove the 50's and 56A's, which were collectively known as 'Crumlin' routes in Ringsend Garage from June 2002 to April 2011. At one stage they re-introduced the 56, which terminated at the Fire station in Dolphins Barn. It used to drive the passengers crazy, when you turned in to Rutland Avenue and stopped at the Fire station. Mainly because nobody really looks at the number on the front.... They really only see a bus and sometimes An Lar, on the front. The 56A still operates from Ringsend Garage to the Square in Tallaght, but there are only 2 buses on the route now, and it carries very few passengers. The 50 part of the schedule, which served Kilnamanagh, Belgard Road, Killinarden and Citywest, was removed in the late 2000's. I think the main reason it has survived to this day, is that it provides cover for the Luas, in case of a breakdown.
    The 55s were a R/end route until the 155 conversion and it moved to Donnybrook. Until opo conversion in September 1988, it generally was allocated the R/End scrap along with the 3. Hence why D485 was on it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 1986, the electric railway has arrived in Dublin and KC 88 is seen on Ailesbury Road with a service on route 52. The 52 has had a complicated history in Dublin. Originally it was the number assigned to the DUTC route to Oxmantown in 1928. Over time this became the 72. In 1932 the DUTC introduced the bus route 44A to replace the tram route 4. It operated from the city centre to Sandymount via Bath Avenue, and in 1936 it became the 52. The route was single-decker operated due to it passing under a low railway bridge and it had its terminus on Willfield Road. The route remained thus until the DART feeder services started in 1986, a slight while after the DART started itself in 1984. The 52 was completely rerouted from 2nd February 1986 when it started to run from St. John's Church to Kilmacud Road Upper via UCD at Belfield. Two weeks after it started, the terminus was moved to here at Ailesbury Road on the westside of the railway line. this was to improve performance as the frequent level-crossing closures for trains was impacting the timetable. The route returned to St. John's Church in the 1990s but was finally withdrawn in 1998 when the 2 and 3 were extended to UCD Belfield. A 3A was introduced for a short while to Kilamcud.
    KC 88 entered service in 1984 with CIE in Dublin. It was withdrawn by Dublin Bus in 1999.
    Ailesbury Road is one of the more exclusive roads in Dublin, where house prices are often valued in the millions, more than KC 88 was worth. 01/05/1986

    49838331592_9829c8bc0d_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (225) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week we are going twenty-six years to 1994 to see MA 15 at The Square in Tallaght. The bus is in an all-over ad for Chartbusters. This was a video rental store that was set up in 1993. The founder, Richard Murphy, had previously set up another video rental chain in 1980 called Xtra-vision. This chain expanded across Ireland, England and into some parts of the US. Mr Murphy left the company in 1991 and two years later tried the same concept again with Chartbusters. At its peak, this video-rental company had 54 stores around Ireland. But the recession of the early-2000s hit hard and the company ceased-trading in 2010. Around the same time Xtra-vision started to experience difficulties and by 2016 was in liquidation. It now exists as an online brand, and with vending machines in supermarkets around the country. Online streaming services also contributed to the demise of the company.
    MA 15 was one of twenty minibuses delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1993. The first twelve were for City Imp routes and the remainder were for Localink routes. The 203 was one such route, along with the 201 and 202 which operated in Tallaght (and later the 204). These routes started in the late 1980s as the T01, T02 and T03 and connected the housing estates around Tallaght with the village centre. When The Square shopping centre opened, the routes had their termini moved to there. The 203 was withdrawn around 1996 and the 201 and 202 continued on until 2009. 07/05/1994

    49867636002_e87c613971_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (226) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭rx8


    Ahhh… the memories. I actually drove this bus in 1995 when the Local-link routes were based in Ringsend. There were 21 duties and drivers on it everyday when it was T01, T02 etc. It changed to 5 duties and drivers as 201,202 and 203.
    There were 2 - 201 buses, which used to pass one another in Cushlawn estate on the way to Jobstown.
    2 - 202 buses, went from The Belgard Pub, via Kilnamanagh and Tallaght Village to the Square. They finished by 8 o'clock or so each evening.
    The 203 went on until 11.30 from the Square, via Tallaght Village, Aylesbury, Old Bawn and up towards Bohernabreena, to a place that was called Glasamucky.

    All were "Hail and Ride" routes. This in reality meant that as soon as you had pulled away from letting someone off, the bell would ring and you'd hear "This is my stop, Sonny" about 3 houses down the road. There was even a guy in the Square who used to help load up the buses, and lift on the shopping.
    The 203 was the only one that ran on a Sunday, and you would do 15 trips up and down to Bohernabreena.
    They were a great bus to drive and rarely broke down. Mercedes reliability was always good. They were noisy though but really fast.
    There's probably a few routes that could probably do with something like this nowadays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week we are only going back a decade, and to the north County Dublin coastal town of Skerries. AV 269 is seen about to drop off passengers while doing an evening trip on the 33 from Dublin to Balbriggan. The route can trace its origin back to the Great Northern Railway (Ireland) and started around 1929/1930. The railway company also provided railway services between Dublin, Skerries and Balbriggan (and to destinations further north). In 1958 the bus and rail services passed to CIE. It was only from the mid-1960s on did more and more services on the 33 get extended to Balbriggan.
    AV 269 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 2002 and started its career in Summerhill Garage. However, to be specific, it was initially based at the Skerries out-station, along with AV 266, 267 and 268. Thus it started its career on the 33 and was a regular on it for a number of years. It was withdrawn around 2015 and currently is in private ownership doing The Gravedigger Tour (though not during the Covid-19 lockdown).
    The bus stop is worth noting as it does not have the stop number on it. This was just before every bus stop received an identifiable number that was tied into the real-time passenger information system.
    Skerries 14/05/2010

    49895161142_8cb47a6075_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (227) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    KD 361 is seen enjoying the sun on Eden Quay as it rests between duties on route 7 in 1990.
    The bus is in an all-over ad for B&I Line, and the ferry services they offer between Dublin/Holyhead and Rosslare/Pembroke. B&I Line started life as the British and Irish Steam Packet Company in 1836. In 1965 it was nationalised by the Irish government, but was privatised again in 1992 when it was taken over by the Irish Continental Group, who also own Irish Ferries. This latter brand is the one that survives to this day, with the B&I name phased out by 1995.
    KD 361 was delivered new to Dublin in July 1983 and was withdrawn in 1999. During its time in this all-over ad it visited Cork.
    Route 7 connected Eden Quay with Loughlinstown Park, via Dun Laoghaire in 1990.
    The skyline in the background is almost unrecognisable now in 2020, with multi-storey developments in the Tara Street area having taken place in the intervening thirty years. 21/05/1990

    49920415787_22bf46cb2c_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (228) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week we are going back to 1994 and the final weeks of route 55. KD 34 is seen at the 55 terminus on College Street, alongside the wall of Trinity College. This route started in 1953 connecting the city with Kimmage and Walkinstown Cross. In the 1970s it was extended to Greenhills and was still terminating there on Limekiln Avenue in 1994. During the summer of 1994 the 55 underwent City Imp conversion, and became route 155, with services running at a much higher frequency than before. The 155 itself was absorbed into the 19A in 2001, which then became route 9 in 2010.
    KD 34 was delivered new to Ringsend Garage in 1981 and spent all its life there. It was withdrawn in 1995 and was sent for scrap.
    This location on College Street is no longer a bus terminus and is instead the Trinity tram stop on the Luas Green Line. College House in the background on Townsend Street was demolished in 2019.
    [Also in the background is MA 15 on the 83, a bus which featured in Throwback Thursday (226) :-) ]
    28/05/1994

    49945770191_f5ba1c9d77_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (229) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭clunked


    Csalem wrote: »
    This week we are going back to 1994 and the final weeks of route 55. KD 34 is seen at the 55 terminus on College Street, alongside the wall of Trinity College. This route started in 1953 connecting the city with Kimmage and Walkinstown Cross. In the 1970s it was extended to Greenhills and was still terminating there on Limekiln Avenue in 1994. During the summer of 1994 the 55 underwent City Imp conversion, and became route 155, with services running at a much higher frequency than before. The 155 itself was absorbed into the 19A in 2001, which then became route 9 in 2010.
    KD 34 was delivered new to Ringsend Garage in 1981 and spent all its life there. It was withdrawn in 1995 and was sent for scrap.
    This location on College Street is no longer a bus terminus and is instead the Trinity tram stop on the Luas Green Line. College House in the background on Townsend Street was demolished in 2019.
    [Also in the background is MA 15 on the 83, a bus which featured in Throwback Thursday (226) :-) ]
    28/05/1994

    49945770191_f5ba1c9d77_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (229) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr
    One of the first KDs to be withdrawn apart from those in accidents or burned I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Never drove one so can't be said I ruined it ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭rx8


    The bouncy suspension was deadly,and the dashboard in front of you was like something out of a jumbo jet with all the coloured lights, dials and switches. The steering wheel was way too big though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭tnegun


    I particularly liked the steam heating several of the Ringsend KDs had. Seemed to only work after the climb to Crooksing on a 65, it was quiite limited though usually just heated the rear bench seat in front of the engine!! :pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    tnegun wrote: »
    I particularly liked the steam heating several of the Ringsend KDs had. Seemed to only work after the climb to Crooksing on a 65, it was quiite limited though usually just heated the rear bench seat in front of the engine!! :pac::pac:

    Was that no exhaust smoke....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭rx8


    tnegun wrote: »
    I particularly liked the steam heating several of the Ringsend KDs had. Seemed to only work after the climb to Crooksing on a 65, it was quiite limited though usually just heated the rear bench seat in front of the engine!! :pac::pac:

    I actually remember taking one to Blessington and the the plume of smoke from the back was something to behold. 😎


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭rx8


    tnegun wrote: »
    I particularly liked the steam heating several of the Ringsend KDs had. Seemed to only work after the climb to Crooksing on a 65, it was quiite limited though usually just heated the rear bench seat in front of the engine!! :pac::pac:

    I actually remember taking one to Blessington and the the plume of smoke from the back was something to behold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭tnegun


    It actually could of been exhaust I remember deciding to never sit there again after the second or third time it happened as I felt quite unwell!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    tnegun wrote: »
    It actually could of been exhaust I remember deciding to never sit there again after the second or third time it happened as I felt quite unwell!

    They were a 2stroke engine I believe. Designed for long distance non stop type driving but yet fitted them to city buses....
    Remember as a kid been in them, the noise and smell you would never forget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭rx8


    They were a 2stroke engine I believe. Designed for long distance non stop type driving but yet fitted them to city buses....
    Remember as a kid been in them, the noise and smell you would never forget.

    Yeah, the KD had a 2-stroke engine, but the single deck KC had a 4-stroke engine and was way more powerful and faster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week we are going back to Killiney in 1983. C 74 is seen at the 59 terminus on Killiney Hill. This route number first appeared in 1937 with an independent company originating the route before that. Although it originally ran to the city centre, it was cut back to Dun Laoghaire in 1942 due to wartime restrictions, and thus it has remained ever since. With the coming of the DART in 1984, it was turned into a DART Feeder service but that only lasted until 1989 when due to low demand it returned to being a regular bus route. For a while the 59 was extended to Mackintosh Park but in 2016 it was cut back to Killiney. In October 2018 the route transferred to Go-Ahead Ireland along with a number of other local Dun Laoghaire routes.
    C 74 was delivered new to CIE in 1965. It left Donnybrook in 1984 and transferred to Stranorlar in 1984 and was withdrawn in 1985.
    04/06/1983

    49970922191_7f5eef7cfb_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (230) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Csalem wrote: »
    This week we are going back to Killiney in 1983. C 74 is seen at the 59 terminus on Killiney Hill. This route number first appeared in 1937 with an independent company originating the route before that. Although it originally ran to the city centre, it was cut back to Dun Laoghaire in 1942 due to wartime restrictions, and thus it has remained ever since. With the coming of the DART in 1984, it was turned into a DART Feeder service but that only lasted until 1989 when due to low demand it returned to being a regular bus route. For a while the 59 was extended to Mackintosh Park but in 2016 it was cut back to Killiney. In October 2018 the route transferred to Go-Ahead Ireland along with a number of other local Dun Laoghaire routes.
    C 74 was delivered new to CIE in 1965. It left Donnybrook in 1984 and transferred to Stranorlar in 1984 and was withdrawn in 1985.
    04/06/1983

    49970922191_7f5eef7cfb_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (230) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    AFAIR,C's 73 and 74 were in Brown and Cream livery and had the Coach Style seating for some of their service in Donnybrook....:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 1991 and RH 18 (not RH 17) is on its way to Templeogue with a service on route 15. Both the bus and the route were relatively new, having started in 1990. The 15 connected the city centre with Templeogue, and had its terminus on Scholarstown Road. The route today in 2020 runs cross-city from Clongriffin to Ballycullen Road, and was one of the first routes to go to 24-hour operation in 2019 (along with the 41).
    RH 18 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in August 1990 and spent all its career based in Ringsend Garage. It arrived in the base-colours for the all-over ad, with the writing applied in the garage. It was the first Leyland Olympian in Dublin to receive an all-over ad. The bus was withdrawn in 2002 but its career did not end there as it went on to work in the Isle of Man and Scunthorpe. It was still going school work there until 2018 approximately.
    Fast Fit have been around in Ireland for approximately 40 years but are now part of the Bridgestone Tyres group. College Street, 11/06/1991

    49995789342_83bd65d4b5_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (231) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Csalem wrote: »
    It is 1991 and RH 18 (not RH 17) is on its way to Templeogue with a service on route 15. Both the bus and the route were relatively new, having started in 1990. The 15 connected the city centre with Templeogue, and had its terminus on Scholarstown Road.

    Have you some info on the history of the 15/A/B routes per chance?

    Smart photo BTW :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Have you some info on the history of the 15/A/B routes per chance?

    Smart photo BTW :)

    Bus route 15 started in 1948 and lasted until 1964 running from City Centre to Terenure. Its last terminus was Hazelbrook Road. It returned in 1990 as a low frequency service between City Centre and Scholarstown Road, and grew since then.

    Bus route 15A started in 1949 between City Centre and Whitehall Road in Terenure. In 1970s was extended to Greenhills and remained there ever since. It covered the bit to Hazelbrook Road when the 15 ceased and did so up to the end of the 1980s.

    Bus route 15B started in 1952 between City Centre and Templeogue. The longest terminus was Anne Devlin Park and remained so until the early 2000s when it went to Whitechurch. Then Network Direct sent it to Stocking Lane in 2011.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Csalem wrote: »
    Bus route 15 started in 1948 and lasted until 1964 running from City Centre to Terenure. Its last terminus was Hazelbrook Road. It returned in 1990 as a low frequency service between City Centre and Scholarstown Road, and grew since then.

    Bus route 15A started in 1949 between City Centre and Whitehall Road in Terenure. In 1970s was extended to Greenhills and remained there ever since. It covered the bit to Hazelbrook Road when the 15 ceased and did so up to the end of the 1980s.

    Bus route 15B started in 1952 between City Centre and Templeogue. The longest terminus was Anne Devlin Park and remained so until the early 2000s when it went to Whitechurch. Then Network Direct sent it to Stocking Lane in 2011.

    Was having an auld perusal of "The Book" on that page earlier funny enough:

    516314.jpg

    Again thanks for the heads up on its existence.

    What does the frequency relate to under the A and B?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem



    What does the frequency relate to under the A and B?

    Approx number of return trips:
    Mon-Fri / Sat / Sun

    With 24 hours in a day, which is 1440 minutes if my maths right, the 15A was about every 10 minutes from Dublin (1440 divided by 139). Of course that assumes 24 hour operation which it wasn't so was probably closer to every 7 or 8 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Csalem wrote: »
    Approx number of return trips:
    Mon-Fri / Sat / Sun

    With 24 hours in a day, which is 1440 minutes if my maths right, the 15A was about every 10 minutes from Dublin (1440 divided by 139). Of course that assumes 24 hour operation which it wasn't so was probably closer to every 7 or 8 minutes.

    That's what I'd guessed but rifled through the book and couldn't find it.

    Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week we are going back to 1988 and a slightly unusual bus in the Dublin Bus fleet. KR 11 is seen in the Phoenix Park at the Dublin Bus Rally. The KR class were not usually associated with bus routes in Dublin, the R in KR standing for "rural". Indeed, this bus was delivered new to Limerick in 1985. However, in early 1988 it transferred up to Dublin as part of the batch KR 9 -14. This was as part of the plan to improve the bus service in North Wicklow with some more suitable buses, unlike the similar KC class. Dublin Bus made some changes to the KRs they received, such as replacing the key ignition with a push button, and putting in larger destination displays. However, due to the union objections the buses never entered service on the routes planned for them. In fact, they saw limited public use in general in the capital, and were occasionally loaned back to Bus Eireann when they were short on buses. By the end of 1988 the buses were back in Limerick and repainted back into Bus Eireann. KR 11 saw out its days in Cork as a school bus and was in a scrapyard by 2006.
    The bus is dressed for one of the north Wicklow routes, the 85. Back in 1988 it ran from Bray to Enniskerry (Shop River or Golden Gates) and Bray to Ballywaltrim. By the mid 1990s it had been replaced by Localink 185, which in 2018 passed to Go-Ahead Ireland operations.
    Bus rallies have continued on and off over the intervening years. The most recent one was in Dun Laoghaire in 2017.
    16/06/1988

    50019415513_b25b37e131_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (232) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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