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Titanium bikes...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,050 ✭✭✭cletus


    Here's an interesting video, although I expect that the conclusions drawn won't be too popular on this thread :D:D:D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    My fleet and I feel personally attacked!

    As extensive as it is I never thought you had a titanium bike!

    The thread needed balance. It was in danger of becoming a group masturbating in a round plane figure whose boundary consists of points equidistant from a fixed point


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Fugs!!


    Genesis equilibrium looks nice..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    Fugs!! wrote: »
    Genesis equilibrium looks nice..

    As magicbastarder noted above, Genesis pricing has got very silly.

    However if you are prepared to spend some time hunting, you can find decent discounts. The Croix de Fer 853 frameset is now around €1150 RRP but I got a brand new one from Fleabay for half that.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,181 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i have two equilibria. both bought secondhand from boardsies. the disc one seems more 'planted' for some reason, but the rim brake one has specialised hover bars which i think adds a little too much height to the front.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Fugs!!


    i have two equilibria. both bought secondhand from boardsies. the disc one seems more 'planted' for some reason, but the rim brake one has specialised hover bars which i think adds a little too much height to the front.
    What are hover bars?

    My local bike shop can supply me one which I like. It's a way of helping out.

    Reading reviews and specs makes me want one. Looks really well too.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,181 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    i have two equilibria..

    Just two Genesis... a know a man with about 5 of those, steel, aluminium & carbon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭Magilla Gorilla


    cletus wrote: »
    Here's an interesting video, although I expect that the conclusions drawn won't be too popular on this thread :D:D:D



    Good video, thanks for posting.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,181 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    cletus wrote: »
    Here's an interesting video, although I expect that the conclusions drawn won't be too popular on this thread :D:D:D

    at the very start he claims 'my anecdotal experience...' and i turned the video off. unless he is actually an expert on the topic, he's just a punter with an opinion. i'm not saying his opinion is necessarily wrong, just that it's a valuable as anyone here who has tried lots of bikes of different materials.

    also, on another note, i think i once read that one of the issues with aluminium is that it simply was not around long enough - it was the dominant material (certainly at the top end) for only a decade or two, so many people's opinions of it would have been shaped by early iterations which might have been poor.
    for example, early carbon bikes probably feel like wet paper to modern ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    at the very start he claims 'my anecdotal experience...' and i turned the video off. unless he is actually an expert on the topic, he's just a punter with an opinion. i'm not saying his opinion is necessarily wrong, just that it's a valuable as anyone here who has tried lots of bikes of different materials.

    also, on another note, i think i once read that one of the issues with aluminium is that it simply was not around long enough - it was the dominant material (certainly at the top end) for only a decade or two, so many people's opinions of it would have been shaped by early iterations which might have been poor.
    for example, early carbon bikes probably feel like wet paper to modern ones.

    He spends the rest of the video explaining relevant experimental data


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭NamelessPhil


    I've been riding a titanium Lynskey for five years with over 30,000 99% Audax kilometres on it. I love it for the fact that I can just rock out the door and ride. I don't have to worry about its paint when it's fecked into the luggage area of a bus.

    Yes it is comfortable over multi-day rides, yes it is less responsive than my other bikes.It corners like a dream though. I have less upper body fatigue on Irish dead roads than on my other aluminium bike over the same 200km route. Same saddle, same set up. I'm a middle-aged woman of 60+ kg so I'm not particularly hard on components.

    My bike is a proper Audax pony with dynamo front hub mudguards and pannier rack. The frame is too small to allow me to use frame bags and bike bottles at the same time.

    For Irish roads on routes of 100km+ I'll always choose the Lynskey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,050 ✭✭✭cletus


    at the very start he claims 'my anecdotal experience...' and i turned the video off. unless he is actually an expert on the topic, he's just a punter with an opinion. i'm not saying his opinion is necessarily wrong, just that it's a valuable as anyone here who has tried lots of bikes of different materials.

    also, on another note, i think i once read that one of the issues with aluminium is that it simply was not around long enough - it was the dominant material (certainly at the top end) for only a decade or two, so many people's opinions of it would have been shaped by early iterations which might have been poor.
    for example, early carbon bikes probably feel like wet paper to modern ones.

    If you watch the video fully, you'll see that he speaks about his anecdotal experience only to show that it's very often wrong


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Fugs!!


    I've been riding a titanium Lynskey for five years with over 30,000 99% Audax kilometres on it. I love it for the fact that I can just rock out the door and ride. I don't have to worry about its paint when it's fecked into the luggage area of a bus.

    Yes it is comfortable over multi-day rides, yes it is less responsive than my other bikes.It corners like a dream though. I have less upper body fatigue on Irish dead roads than on my other aluminium bike over the same 200km route. Same saddle, same set up. I'm a middle-aged woman of 60+ kg so I'm not particularly hard on components.

    My bike is a proper Audax pony with dynamo front hub mudguards and pannier rack. The frame is too small to allow me to use frame bags and bike bottles at the same time.

    For Irish roads on routes of 100km+ I'll always choose the Lynskey.

    You sound like a very interesting person indeed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Lewotsil


    I was surely one of the eight !

    I have been riding a Kinesis Gran Fondo Disc since early 2018 (havin bought frame in 2017) and I love the look and feel of it. It let me down 10 days before PBP as I noticed a 1/4 inch crack on downtube - I got replacement frame with zero hassle or questions - there is a 5 year guarantee on frames and some sort of lifetime trade-in if damaged in crash I think.........but it annoys me that I basically bought it to ride PBP and I didn't get to ......not quite fully bonded to it !

    Love the aesthetic as well as the feel of Ti............never met a Ti buyer with regrets over frame.....best of luck



    On the Angel of Mons audax a couple of years ago I joined up with a group of eleven heading for Castlebellingham. Eight of the group were riding titanium frames and I suspect the combined milage of the Ti bikes must have been well into the hundreds of thousands. All were different makes but everyone I spoke with was perfectly happy with their choice. If you are into doing big miles, titanium is the way to go.[/QUOTE]


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭brownian


    I'm certainly not in the same league as the Nameless one, but I've done a lot of miles on Ti and on Carbon, and have zero regrets about taking my Carbon bike whenever a load of panniers is not needed. I do have an ergon split seatpost and a red-shift elastomered stem and a leather saddle, all of which (I think) add comfort, but without losing the responsiveness that blew me away when first I got off my Van Nic and onto a Carbon bike.
    Your mileage may vary.


  • Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭TRANQUILLO


    Has anyone on here used waltley for a build?

    Chinese titanium online shop.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5NJKO6tZcU

    Cycling maven used them for a custom build. Certainly looks the part...


    edit ive had a further google and there is mixed reviews .


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Fugs!!


    Bit the bullet. Genesis Equilibrium Disc on the way..


  • Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭TRANQUILLO


    Fugs!! wrote: »
    Bit the bullet. Genesis Equilibrium Disc on the way..

    i was looking myself..........

    only thing that is turning me off is external cable routing . She looks a peach.

    Id prefer it with ETAP AXS too. She's a peach though


  • Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭TRANQUILLO


    Fugs!! wrote: »
    Bit the bullet. Genesis Equilibrium Disc on the way..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVIX6pSxBV0


    bit of night time naughty viewing for you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭NamelessPhil


    TRANQUILLO wrote: »

    only thing that is turning me off is external cable routing . She looks a peach.

    Id prefer it with ETAP AXS too. She's a peach though

    Trust me, you'll want external cable routing if you ever have to replace a cable when you're in the middle of nowhere on a long distance ride.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭8valve


    TRANQUILLO wrote: »
    i was looking myself..........

    only thing that is turning me off is external cable routing . She looks a peach.

    Id prefer it with ETAP AXS too. She's a peach though


    As a bike mechanic, I'd like to meet the person who originally decided internal cable routing was a good idea.


    I would high five them.


    In the face.


    With a chair.


  • Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭TRANQUILLO


    Trust me, you'll want external cable routing if you ever have to replace a cable when you're in the middle of nowhere on a long distance ride.

    The bike would barely see the end of the road. It would be a trophy. Not a bicycle. eheheheh


  • Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭TRANQUILLO


    8valve wrote: »
    As a bike mechanic, I'd like to meet the person who originally decided internal cable routing was a good idea.


    I would high five them.


    In the face.


    With a chair.

    That's why i pay other people to fix them. Plus as i alluded to, id rather electronic shifting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭TRANQUILLO


    Fugs!! wrote: »
    Bit the bullet. Genesis Equilibrium Disc on the way..

    Ah I got confused. So you did'nt get titanium in the end? Im thinking of the croix de fer ti


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Trust me, you'll want external cable routing if you ever have to replace a cable when you're in the middle of nowhere on a long distance ride.

    Who changes cables in the middle of nowhere on a long ride?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Effects wrote: »
    Who changes cables in the middle of nowhere on a long ride?

    Do Enough Audaxen and you will


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,181 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    TRANQUILLO wrote: »
    the croix de fer ti
    could they not have called it something else? makes a mess of the neat trick in the name.


  • Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭TRANQUILLO


    could they not have called it something else? makes a mess of the neat trick in the name.

    I don't follow?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,181 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    'croix de fer' means 'cross of iron' and i assumed referred to the bike having a steel frame (in its original guise)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭randomstuff


    'croix de fer' means 'cross of iron' and i assumed referred to the bike having a steel frame (in its original guise)

    Its actually a reference to the famous mountain pass in the French alps, afaik.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,181 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    yes, that's what the pun is, it's a cross bike made of iron (aka steel) so croix de fer was the perfect name.
    when they introduced the aluminium model, the changed the name to the CdA to reflect that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Fugs!!


    TRANQUILLO wrote: »
    Ah I got confused. So you did'nt get titanium in the end? Im thinking of the croix de fer ti
    No. I fell in love with the genisis the minute I saw it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭brownian


    yes, that's what the pun is, it's a cross bike made of iron (aka steel) so croix de fer was the perfect name.
    when they introduced the aluminium model, the changed the name to the CdA to reflect that.

    And you might feel crucified after a long day....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,271 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    I see Decathlon are going to launch a titanium Triban (their budget range) gravel bike. Will take up to 45mm tires with 700c wheels. 1x11 Grx 600 and Fulcrum wheels.

    Pre order at the end of October for delivery in February - 2399€.

    I'm tempted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,271 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    This was announced today. Frame is made by Dedacciai in Italy. Haven't seen an English review yet but here is one that can be google translated - https://yanngobert.com/2020/10/triban-grvl900-titane/

    I'm in the market for a gravel bike but would still keep at least one if not two road bikes. This would be for an introduction to gravel, and possibly winter/longer distance with a second set of wheels and tires. Spec is in line with what I was looking for, I had a budget of 1500€ in mind for an alu frame. Ideally I'd consider steel as I have enough faster carbon or alu road bikes, and would like a bit of wow factor too. Haven't found anything steel with the spec I want close to my price range though (11 speed, ideally GRX, hydraulic discs, wheels that I won't need to replace first thing)

    What do people think? Worth going for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    This was announced today. Frame is made by Dedacciai in Italy. Haven't seen an English review yet but here is one that can be google translated - https://yanngobert.com/2020/10/triban-grvl900-titane/

    I'm in the market for a gravel bike but would still keep at least one if not two road bikes. This would be for an introduction to gravel, and possibly winter/longer distance with a second set of wheels and tires. Spec is in line with what I was looking for, I had a budget of 1500€ in mind for an alu frame. Ideally I'd consider steel as I have enough faster carbon or alu road bikes, and would like a bit of wow factor too. Haven't found anything steel with the spec I want close to my price range though (11 speed, ideally GRX, hydraulic discs, wheels that I won't need to replace first thing)

    What do people think? Worth going for?

    €2400 is a great price if its correct, assuming you can actually get you hands on one as only 401 will be made. That frame definitely looks as it was designed down to a price, though. No third bottle cage, no eyes for racks or guards, press-fit BB, basic finish.

    Welding is quite tidy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,271 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    €2400 is a great price if its correct, assuming you can actually get you hands on one as only 401 will be made. That frame definitely looks as it was designed down to a price, though. No third bottle cage, no eyes for racks or guards, press-fit BB, basic finish.

    Welding is quite tidy.

    I've decided I'm going to try get one of these. No mudguard mounts is a bit annoying but I do have another road bike with full mudguards that I might keep


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭letape


    Planet x have a very good range of titanium gravel bikes:

    https://www.planetx.co.uk/c/q/bikes/gravel-adventure-bikes/tempest

    I’d be very tempted in the sram force model.

    Full carbon gravel fork, hydraulic disc brakes and through axles give precise all surface control. 50mm tyre, triple bottle cage, mudguard and rack ready. Full sram force group with Fulcrum Racing 900 Disc wheels - £1999. Good exchange rate at the moment too.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,181 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    https://www.adverts.ie/road-bikes/titanium-raleigh-racing-bike/21631127

    may not be quite the bike people usually drool over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭Trekker09


    https://www.adverts.ie/road-bikes/titanium-raleigh-racing-bike/21631127

    may not be quite the bike people usually drool over.

    He only paid €50 for that and now going for €350!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,181 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    fair play to him for getting it for €50!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Oberkon


    Titanium is special no doubt about it
    Mind you I’ll have my van Nicholas Ventus for sale soon - 54cm


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Fugs!!


    So I got the bike on saturday. Went my first spin on it yesterday. It's a completely different bike to ride than a carbon racer. First thing i noticed was how nice the position you're sitting is. It's so comfy. Much less of a stoop and more normal I guess. The ride is worlds apart. Its excellent. I had to keep within 5km from the house so I knew every bump and rough patch on the road. But I soon forgot them all as the ride just soaks up any pumps or rough bits. It makes the roughest of roads velvet smooth. I did 75km at a handy pace and loved it. Its slot less twitchy than the carbon bike too. A much more pleasant experience. The 30mm kenda tyres seem excellent. There is however one drawback. It's a touch heavy so you do feel it as soon as the road rises. But this bike is not for speed. Its overall better than I expected.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,181 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    yeah, it's like it's on rails at times. mine has the semi-compact chainset which makes steep climbs that teensy bit harder.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭TRANQUILLO


    I LOVE THIS THREAD.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,181 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Fugs!! wrote: »
    So I got the bike on saturday.
    only one critique i'd have of the bike - go back to the bike shop and ask them to take the pie plate off...


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Fugs!!


    only one critique i'd have of the bike - go back to the bike shop and ask them to take the pie plate off...
    I agree it looks horrible. I'll get it off myself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 CalvinBalti


    Nice bike. I’m getting a titanium road bike built with the Echelon frame from Enigma Bikes. Hope to have it is a few weeks and will add it here for some addition bike porn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    If you're prepared to put up with post-mount brake fittings and Q/R rather than thru axles, these are a highly regarded titanium frame for not a lot of money (£1200)

    https://spacycles.co.uk/m11b0s143p3141/SABBATH-September-AR-1-Disc-Frameset


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