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Why do Irish people support English teams?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    I can say with confidence that The best way to promote Irish soccer is not to take a quite petty stance conveyed here by some. I used to go to shelbourne games regularly but for numerous reasons don’t go and don’t follow them since the late 90s. I keep an eye on their results but Drogheda would be an easier team ,logistical for me to support.

    Perhaps there is a marketing element to things. We see more of Liverpool and united on tv. We see more successful teams more, they appeal to children and people grow up with an affection to those teams. How can people in Ireland watch teams in the 3rd division of the English league?

    Supporting the same team as your father or even because as a child you enjoyed watching a certain team or player is as good a reason as any to support a team. I’m a Dub and will only ever be a Dublin fan but as somebody who plays both codes I understand there are completely different cultures to the sport. In many regards international soccer is closer to GAA inter county football then club soccer.

    If you don’t understand why people support English teams passionately, maybe you should just not bother getting upset about it. I don’t understand why people watch the Kardashian stuff and the likes but I try not to spend time putting these people down. I don’t understand the fascination so I don’t worry about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    The Irish league is crap. Im not trying to be smart

    That's obvious. The Irish League is what they up there play in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    The Irish league is crap. Im not trying to be smart but that is the reason nobody watches it. Look at how a league in Ireland can be run (GAA) compared to how the FAI run the LOI and you will see the reason why

    It sure is. Not a patch on the League of Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭Trump Is Right


    I was born and raised in Tipperary. My mother kept the home when Dad worked.

    Dad worked in the merchant navy for yrs and loved soccer.

    He lived in Inchicore when I was born. He was an officer on the Holyhead ferry.

    We used to go to Richmond Park. Some of my earliest memomories in life are of him swearing and getting angry with me up on his lap.

    He was a very emotive man, but very loving.

    I just could never get why most of Dublin and the rest of the country supported the English league .

    1) The FAI - those bunch of clowns couldn't organise a fire in match factory.. :P.. as a result the LOI is one of the worst organised top leagues in Europe. Teams regularly get into financial trouble after being top of the league for several seasons. (I'd be expecting Dundalk to end up struggling against relegation in a few seasons time, and running out of money for wages soon after that)

    2) Too many teams for such a small Island. This means what support we do have for domestic football, is too thinly spread... so there is very little scope for growth in fanbase. Look at the Rugby guys, they were smart enough to only divide our small rugby fanbase into 4 teams... this means even the weakest of the 4 provinces can still potentially get strong crowds if successful.

    But it all really comes down to the FAI and Delaney. They are completely useless and really appear to answer to no-one. They have no strong vision for football on this Island, and as a result we are a ship without a captain... going nowhere fast!

    We should have a football association that can be voted out of office when they f*ck things up. The Saipan incident is a great example... how in hell did that gobsh*te Delaney manage to keep his cushy job after that complete circus of calamity during the 2002 world cup?? :confused:

    That is the starting point... so long as we have clowns running the show from the top, with practically zero accountability to the fans, then there will be zero progress within domestic football on this Island.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,465 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    It sure is. Not a patch on the League of Ireland.
    How does the support compare?
    Genuine question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    This reminds me of my childhood were every lad in my class if not the whole school had a British football team branded schoolbag.

    In later years younger kids would ask me 'who do you support'. Just cause this would annoy me I'd pretend I didn't know what they meant as if football didn't even need to be mentioned as it was implied in the question.

    Point is indoctrination to British foolball starts at a very young age. If you had no interest you'd be considered an odd-ball. I was always so clear that there were so many ppl who just played along with it and actually didn't give a fuk about football and I think this happens still to this day, national team sports included.


  • Registered Users Posts: 381 ✭✭Ian OB


    Exackkkly

    Gimme sum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    The Irish league is crap. Im not trying to be smart but that is the reason nobody watches it. Look at how a league in Ireland can be run (GAA) compared to how the FAI run the LOI and you will see the reason why

    Is it really that much worse in terms of entertainment value though? Sure the English premiership is full of talented players but I've lost count of the amount of hyped up games that end up being bore draws over there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    Ian OB wrote: »
    Gimme sum

    Too far! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    blade1 wrote: »
    How does the support compare?
    Genuine question.

    From what I could find the average so far in the Irish league Premier is 1137 (lowest 282 Warrenpoint Town, highest 2467 Linfield).

    In the League of Ireland last season the average was 2151 (lowest 688 Bray Wanderers, highest 4116 Cork City).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭mjsc1970


    Omackeral wrote: »
    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I remember seeing a fight on a Saturday afternoon in a pub in Drimnagh between Liverpool and Man United fans, I will never ever get over the sight of Irish men fighting each other wearing British soccer jerseys.

    I honest to god saw a fella squaring up to the ref (on the telly) before. Honest to god. Was a Man United match also as it happens. His mates telling him to leave it. Just mind boggling.

    🀣


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    I cringe when I think of my previous life as a diehard Liverpool fan. I completely lost interest when I got off my hole and started following my local LOI side. Are some matches muck? Yes. But the majority are an intense competition between two teams of reasonably similar quality. Yes, either one would get hockeyed against Man City but at its own level it's highly enjoyable, not to mention the prospect of European qualification and the very slim chance your team may meet a European heavyweight or two if they get far enough. I still enjoy the pints and the atmosphere at a poor match, which is more than I can say for when I nearly fell asleep on the couch watching the Merseyside derby last weekend, or Liverpool's limp attempt to put a 10 point gap at City when they played them in December, or the North West derby the other week. That right there is 270 minutes of awful, pedestrian,boring football that Martin O'Neill be ashamed to put out in his last months. 270 minutes of my weekends wasted, to think my brother pays 50 odd quid a month to buy this rubbish.

    I still think it would be nice to see Liverpool win the league, but their Irish fans have become as insufferable as the United lads used to be before they went to pot. I truly couldn't give a fiddlers any more. The worst about them being the ones who are somewhat under the illusion they are actually from Liverpool, that things like Hillsborough are/ were a personal assault on them.

    And I know an Everton fan even more convinced hes actually from the region, an irrational hatred of the redmen, harps on every now and then about how Heysel got them banned from Europe (he would've been about four when Heysel happened). He's from bleedin Dundalk.

    I don't understand how Irish people can't mix it up in their support. Plenty of, for example, Scottish fans have love for an English club while still putting money and support into their local side. Ditto Swedes, Norwegians, Dutch as well I think.

    I would somewhat buy into the argument for country folk who have no local team. The GAA makes county rivalries more heated than, say, a man from Wocestershire supporting Aston Villa a few miles away in the nearest town. Given the rivalry they've grown up with you can half understand a man from Kells not supporting Bohs or Drogheda/ Dundalk (in saying that I do know of lads from Kildare and Wicklow who follow Rovers. And plenty of country lads living in Dublin have no qualms about adopting Bohs/ Shels/ Pats seeing as they've no local team to be tied to) But people from the main towns and cities have no excuse. When Manchester United go to the darkest corners of Eastern Europe in the group stages the stadium isn't 10 percent home fans, 10 percent travelling fans and 80 percent Belarussians wearing Man Utd jerseys, yet if they ended up coming here for a European tie (which would likely be played as the Aviva as per regs) that's exactly the crowd you would be getting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    Coddle by the Poddle
    vs.
    Hoddle & Waddle.

    COYS :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Omackeral wrote: »

    This will then be followed up with "ah clubs are different to national teams". Then why do the people of Middlesbrough follow Middlesbrough and why do the people of Bristol support Bristol Rovers or Bristol City?

    People from London support Manchester United.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,023 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Went to a few LoI games during my college years. The UCD home games were fine, although very poorly attended. I found going to some of the bigger games between more established Dublin rivals a different story altogether. The crowd on the terrace, or shed, seemed to care more about the fighting with rival supporters than the game itself.

    I would hope that things have changed in the intervening years but I’m not so sure. The LoI need to do more to stamp out that sort of nonsense as it is still viewed by and large as a throwback to the hooliganism of English football in the 80’s with the rival firms and the Stanley blade carrying ultras.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭orourkeda1977


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Ah that old chestnut. Gas how it's never Luton Town or Birmingham City even though the Irish flooded those places.

    Now that you mention it, I have family in the Birmingham Area. A number of them lived in Small Heath for years and are all Birmingham City supporters.

    It does happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭orourkeda1977


    YFlyer wrote: »
    People from London support Manchester United.

    Well, we call them people


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Went to a few LoI games during my college years. The UCD home games were fine, although very poorly attended. I found going to some of the bigger games between more established Dublin rivals a different story altogether. The crowd on the terrace, or shed, seemed to care more about the fighting with rival supporters than the game itself.

    I would hope that things have changed in the intervening years but I’m not so sure. The LoI need to do more to stamp out that sort of nonsense as it is still viewed by and large as a throwback to the hooliganism of English football in the 80’s with the rival firms and the Stanley blade carrying ultras.

    I'd say anyone new who was around, or read about, the Pats Cork game at the start of the season wouldn't be back anyway.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 62 ✭✭Edenmoar


    I dread the day Dundalk or Bohs or Cark draw Yenira or Celtic or one of those teams in Europa group stage and the crowd is 90% for the British team. Cringe.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 62 ✭✭Edenmoar


    My ma grew up in Burnley near Turf Moor I suppose I could support that lot but I see enough of Jeff Hendrick watching Ireland. Or don’t see him more like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭limnam


    Why does a guy from ballinhassig follow cork city fc and not ballinhassig afc?


    Why should you be restricted to the most _local_ team?


    In a globally connected world, working in American companies, presses full of foreign foods, buying from forigen supermarkets watching foreign/British television drinking foreign beverages.


    But it;s odd to follow a team an hour away?


    People follow teams like united all over the world. It's not just "irish" people


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    we dont follow the American Football league in Ireland because it is not broadcast here, and generally Irish people do not play in that league.

    We also dont follow the Canadian Ice Hockey league here for the same reasons, and likewise the baseball.

    I was in Canada for the World Cup in 2014 and I heard several people saying that they weren't following it because 'soccer wasn't their thing..'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭limnam


    we dont follow the American Football league in Ireland because it is not broadcast here, and generally Irish people do not play in that league.

    We also dont follow the Canadian Ice Hockey league here for the same reasons, and likewise the baseball.

    I was in Canada for the World Cup in 2014 and I heard several people saying that they weren't following it because 'soccer wasn't their thing..'


    Dunno about that, my job is full of lads who do nothing but talk about American football and stay up all hours watching it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,965 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    8-10 wrote: »
    That’s a topic for a different thread. The OP is basically saying Irish Catholics should support Everton just like they should support Celtic.

    I disagree with both, we should be far past using religion as the basis for doing anything. We have free will, we are no longer obliged to follow the church blindly

    But overall I don’t even agree with the assertion the Everton is a Catholic club and Liverpool isn’t. Both are far more diverse and international these days, I don’t think that opinion is based in reality. If they’re officially Catholic they don’t show it and haven’t mentioned it anytime recently


    Well you have things like this

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    Saw plenty of half 'n' half Liverpool / Rangers scarves when I used to visit Belfast regularly c12-15 years ago.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    limnam wrote: »



    People follow teams like united all over the world. It's not just "irish" people

    In a European context, yes, it is just Irish people.

    As said, Scots can be die hards for their local club yet have time for an English side. Celtic lads often lean towards Liverpool, Gers do to Chelsea, but there's few who would be purely for these sides and deride Scottish football. You also mention local pride- Glasgow has two teams that get 40,000 plus per gate, yet the metropolitan area also contains a handful of teams that attract gate receipts most LOI sides can only dream of. Same in Manchester- two of the biggest teams on the planet yet thousands of die hards pay in at Oldham, Bury, Rochdale in numbers at multiples of most LOI sides. These lads are from 10 miles away from Old Trafford and yet when they were 5 years old opted for a life of fighting it out at sub Championship level over away days to Madrid and Paris.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭trashcan


    I think it's pretty impossible to support football in this country without liking an English team.

    Do think it pointless getting worked up about it though. It won't change. Just enjoy what you have.

    It really isn't. I used to "follow" Man City as a child ( in the 70's so way before the money.) That was the way, everybody just picked an English team. I realised over time that they had nothing to do with me. Have been a season ticket holder at Richmond Park for nearly 25 years (having been the odd time as a kid.) Pats are my only team now.

    Agree with your last point. I'm not really too bothered about what others do. You won't convert anyone by pointing out the absurdity of calling English teams "we". If people are happy with that, good luck to them. I'm happy with my team (even after last night :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭limnam


    In a European context, yes, it is just Irish people.


    Yeah?


    You should tell that to the scandiavain manchester united supporters club. They'd love to hear from you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Tommy Kelly


    Omackeral wrote: »
    To a degree but then why not support Spain or Germany over Ireland? Why not support Kilkenny over Wexford in the hurling?

    Loads of people support counties different to the counties they are from. Go to a Galway Hurling match, let it be an inter-county match or the Galway county final and you'll see people there from Roscommon, leitrim, Mayo, Sligo etc. Some of them are well known to hardly ever miss a match and could teach some local lads a thing or two about Galway hurling in the days gone by. Same story around the country. You're talking out of your arse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭EPAndlee


    My father supports Man United, I've no idea why but growing in the 90s that's the matches that were shown in my house so naturally started supporting them. I imagine the players had a lot to do with me sticking with United. Try to watch LOI but the tv coverage is so poor, I must get around to actually going to a game


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    Edenmoar wrote: »
    I dread the day Dundalk or Bohs or Cark draw Yenira or Celtic or one of those teams in Europa group stage and the crowd is 90% for the British team. Cringe.

    I'd be half tempted to dust off the Pool jersey and stall in if Rovers ended up playing them :D


    I really wouldn't. Loath Rovers as everyone outside of Tallaght does, but joining the Dublin Reds or whatever they refer to themselves as in the stands to belt out the two chants they average fan knows would be toe curling.

    Mentioning Celtic, even more bizarre mental gymnastics are those who chastise "West Brits" who fpllow an English club, because they themselves keep it Irish by following....Celtic?!? I'll admit I do like to see them go on in Europe but it is textbook armchair fan nonsense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Gonad wrote: »
    We have a great product on our door step . It could be much much better if Irish people supoorted it better . I know it works both ways but if Irish people actually just went to a game every week at home we would be flying

    https://youtu.be/acRQXajXnJw

    I'm thinking the top sides in the League of Ireland in the last 5 years: Dundalk and Cork are playing at the standard of middle to top of the English Championship/bottom of the Premiership even e.g. Fulham/Cardiff/Huddersfield and other teams that may yoyo up and down.

    Evidence is from watching the games involving Dundalk and Cork, and in particular Dundalk's runs in Europe, competitive against teams like BATE, AZ Alkmaar, Zenit and Rosenberg. Players can and do slot into Championship sides and Premiership sides when they go across. There are mixed experiences of this sure, but there always will be.

    But then the attendances in the League of Ireland, even at the top games, are way below this standard. The best attended League of Ireland clubs have average attendances that are above only a dozen or so of the 92 clubs across the 4 English divisions. So top League of Ireland clubs are aiming to compete at an English Championship/European Champions League/Europa league final qualifying round standard, with bottom half of Division 4 attendances.

    The attendances are poor for the standard of football on display, which is kinda the fault of the local football loving public to be brutally honest. It's not all the fault of the clubs/FAI from what I can see going to matches.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 62 ✭✭Edenmoar


    limnam wrote: »
    Why does a guy from ballinhassig follow cork city fc and not ballinhassig afc?


    Why should you be restricted to the most _local_ team?


    In a globally connected world, working in American companies, presses full of foreign foods, buying from forigen supermarkets watching foreign/British television drinking foreign beverages.


    But it;s odd to follow a team an hour away?


    People follow teams like united all over the world. It's not just "irish" people

    I think it’s just annoying to LOI fans that there’s such fervent support for foreign teams when we have a league on our own doorstep that would greatly improve if we paid more attention to it. People saying “we” this and that about Spurs and Liverpool is hella cringe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    I suppose the same lads only support RTE and Irish funded TV productions and don't go near British programming


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    I'm thinking the top sides in the League of Ireland in the last 5 years: Dundalk and Cork are playing at the standard of middle to top of the English Championship/bottom of the Premiership even e.g. Fulham/Cardiff/Huddersfield and other teams that may yoyo up and down.

    Evidence is from watching the games involving Dundalk and Cork, and in particular Dundalk's runs in Europe, competitive against teams like BATE, AZ Alkmaar, Zenit and Rosenberg. Players can and do slot into Championship sides and Premiership sides when they go across. There are mixed experiences of this sure, but there always will be.

    But then the attendances in the League of Ireland, even at the top games, are way below this standard. The best attended League of Ireland clubs have average attendances that are above only a dozen or so of the 92 clubs across the 4 English divisions. So top League of Ireland clubs are aiming to compete at an English Championship/European Champions League/Europa league final qualifying round standard, with bottom half of Division 4 attendances.

    The attendances are poor for the standard of football on display, which is kinda the fault of the local football loving public to be brutally honest. It's not all the fault of the clubs/FAI from what I can see going to matches.

    Not a chance. Lower Championship to mid league one at best. Which is grand like, the matches are still good viewing for the most part, but that's a mad comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Edenmoar wrote: »
    I think it’s just annoying to LOI fans that there’s such fervent support for foreign teams when we have a league on our own doorstep that would greatly improve if we paid more attention to it. People saying “we” this and that about Spurs and Liverpool is hella cringe.

    Hella cringe is hella cringe


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 62 ✭✭Edenmoar


    8-10 wrote: »
    I suppose the same lads only support RTE and Irish funded TV productions and don't go near British programming

    D-. Must try harder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭limnam


    Edenmoar wrote: »
    I think it’s just annoying to LOI fans that there’s such fervent support for foreign teams when we have a league on our own doorstep that would greatly improve if we paid more attention to it. People saying “we” this and that about Spurs and Liverpool is hella cringe.


    Why?


    Pick your team, go to your game enjoy your match. What difference does it make who or what some other fan does?


    Do you think people who go to watch Tallaght town FC give out about people from Tallaght going to watch rovers? Rovers are blow ins, why didn't they go to watch Tallaght town before? or newtown rangers, or milmount? Why are they going to rovers!


    It's a penny looking down on a happenny. Enjoy your ball and fck what everyone else is doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,634 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    we dont follow the American Football league in Ireland because it is not broadcast here, and generally Irish people do not play in that league.

    We also dont follow the Canadian Ice Hockey league here for the same reasons, and likewise the baseball.

    I was in Canada for the World Cup in 2014 and I heard several people saying that they weren't following it because 'soccer wasn't their thing..'

    Who's "we"? Can watch pretty much anything on the planet wit hthe internet. I just finished watching Central Coast Mariners v Wellington Pheonix in the Australian A-league (admittedly only because I had a bet on it :) )

    I watch American football and MLS. I watch Spanish, German and occasionally Dutch soccer. I watch ice hockey from time to time, but amn't very knowledge about it.
    Edenmoar wrote: »
    I dread the day Dundalk or Bohs or Cark draw Yenira or Celtic or one of those teams in Europa group stage and the crowd is 90% for the British team. Cringe.

    Genuine question - who?

    ---

    In answer to the OP, it's a combination of quality and exposure. The premier league is a better quality league and when any of us over the age of about 35 started watching soccer it was the only league we had exposure to at the time. As I said, that's change a bit recently. Plus a l lot of people carried on following the teams out parents and older family followed for the same reason. We were kids.

    I do try and catch a Premier league game when I'm home in Ireland, but unfortunaly it's usually over Christmas when the season's over. Wouldn't have a favourite team though.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    8-10 wrote: »
    I suppose the same lads only support RTE and Irish funded TV productions and don't go near British programming

    I watch very very little English TV unless it's a subject I'm really interested in. Outside of the odd streamed show, 95% of my TV viewing is 1-4.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Genuine question - who?

    Man yenira.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Let's stop all going to the cinema cause very little Irish movie's.
    Also don't listen to any music that is not Irish.

    Oh and I also support the LOI. But sometimes people just like enjoy other Fruits for whole host of reasons


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Edenmoar wrote: »
    D-. Must try harder.

    What's the difference then?

    To me it just seems like people want something to be outraged about.

    Being judgmental about what team of people kicking a ball somebody supports is a bit mad to me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 62 ✭✭Edenmoar


    Clubs are about loyalty and where you’re from, at least that’s what Bohs are to me. It’s part of my identity, you might find that sad but I feel a real sense of belonging in Dalymount. We have family birthday parties in the bars in Dalymount and I’ve been there since I’m a toddler. My uncles retirement do was there recently and he writes for the match programs sometimes. These things don’t apply to Corpnation st. I suppose bar stoolers wouldn’t get what it’s like to support their own team. Bohs is a community.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    I watch very very little English TV unless it's a subject I'm really interested in. Outside of the odd streamed show, 95% of my TV viewing is 1-4.

    And 95% of my soccer viewing is British. Unless is a game I'm really interested in.

    Comes down to personal taste I guess?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    ... the standard of middle to top of the English Championship/bottom of the Premiership even e.g. Fulham/Cardiff/Huddersfield and other teams that may yoyo up and down.

    Simply, and I don't mean to offend, you're deluded.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    8-10 wrote: »
    And 95% of my soccer viewing is British. Unless is a game I'm really interested in.

    Comes down to personal taste I guess?

    It does indeed. That's why I don't care who watches it so long as I don't have to unless it's something to do with an Irish international.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭limnam


    Edenmoar wrote: »
    Clubs are about loyalty and where you’re from, at least that’s what Bohs are to me. That doesn’t apply to Corpnation st. I suppose bar stoolers wouldn’t get what it’s like to support their own team. Bohs is a community.


    Why does boh's have so many fans from castleknock?


    They're not from phibs/cabra?


    Should rovers fans from dublin 1 stop supporting them when the moved to to miltown? should people from miltown stop supporting them becuase they moved to tallaght


    There's no rules to football fan/support and it's moronc views like this that prevent a lot of people coming into LOI.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    limnam wrote: »
    Yeah?


    You should tell that to the scandiavain manchester united supporters club. They'd love to hear from you.

    I would wager the majority of the supporters club also support Helsingsborgs, Malmo etc etc.

    Just under 18,000 people countrywide attended the first week of this season of LOI. Assuming it's mostly men, about 0.75 percent of the male population. More than 99 out of 100 men were not there. Yet probably 70 out of 100 of these regard themselves as a fan of a British club.

    I believe something like 200,000 attend at least one EPL game per year. I'd bet the majority of these never attend LOI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Edenmoar wrote: »
    Clubs are about loyalty and where you’re from, at least that’s what Bohs are to me. It’s part of my identity, you might find that sad but I feel a real sense of belonging in Dalymount. We have family birthday parties in the bars in Dalymount and I’ve been there since I’m a toddler. My uncles retirement do was there recently and he writes for the match programs sometimes. These things don’t apply to Corpnation st. I suppose bar stoolers wouldn’t get what it’s like to support their own team. Bohs is a community.

    And I feel a real sense of belonging at Anfield. That's what supporting your team is about.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭limnam


    I would wager the majority of the supporters club also support Helsingsborgs, Malmo etc etc.

    Just under 18,000 people countrywide attended the first week of this season of LOI. Assuming it's mostly men, about 0.75 percent of the male population. More than 99 out of 100 men were not there. Yet probably 70 out of 100 of these regard themselves as a fan of a British club.

    I believe something like 200,000 attend at least one EPL game per year. I'd bet the majority of these never attend LOI.


    So it's not just an Irish thing.


    Glad we cleared that up.


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