Importing used campervan from Britain post Brexit

The simple point is.
The VRT should be calculated on the purchase price just like ALL other taxes and duties are.
The purchase price is the price on the receipt/invoice issued by the seller.
To mitigate against a fraudulent artificially low price being shown let there be a severe penalty if caught out, just like there is for other forms of tax evasion.

Excuse the pun, but the particular wheel has already been invented long ago.

IMHO the way VRT is administered is a design of the trade to discourage personal imports, after all, why wouldn't they want their patch protected.

Off-Topic I know, but our vehicle registration number system is a similar concoction of the trade to promote 'number plate snobbery' and sales. Wouldn't it be great to have a system like some other European countries where the reg. no. is random mix numbers and letters which give no indication of the place or year of registration.
Spain, for example, consists of four numbers followed by three letters (eg. 1234 ABC)

colm_mcm wrote: »

............................... I still can’t see which laws were being broken in that case.

I agree with your point, there is no 'law' being broken.
However, the way VRT is operated is contrary to all the norms of taxation and is possible against our human rights to know the tax liability resulting from a transaction before entering into such.
Show me one other example of a tax which cannot be ascertained once the cost of a purchase is known.
Would you buy a house if the stamp duty was an unknown variable? or a would you import a case of wine if the excise duty was an unknown variable?

colm_mcm wrote: »

Property tax?
Capital gains tax?

Both those taxes are easily quantifiable to the liable person via a transparent formula.
Property tax is assessed on the value of a property based on actual recorded sales prices (which does not include the property tax) for similar properties which are in the public domain, not a notional value based on an opaque calculation.
Likewise, Capital Gains tax is calculated on the actual increase in the capital value of an asset, ie the difference between the price paid at the time of purchase and price received at the time of sale.

Neither of the two examples you mentioned includes the tax liability in the total sum liable for the tax. However, VRT liability is calculated on a VRT included value

Sir Liamalot wrote: »

Speaking of doing things the right way instead of the Irish way. Is everyone here still rollin' on Summer tyres in this icey snowy weather?

No one is rolling anywhere these days, lockdown don't you know?

Sir Liamalot wrote: »

Speaking of doing things the right way instead of the Irish way. Is everyone here still rollin' on Summer tyres in this icey snowy weather?

Nope. Put my winter tyres on a month ago! :cool: Thinking of taking them for a drive in the snow this week ... mainly because the local supermarket is doing a promotion on double mattresses, and that size of thing is easier to transport in the camper than the car! :pac:

Silly questions;

Do you have to register a caravan?

if not then how does the revenue know that you have imported a caravan?

We were about to go to the England to pick up a pegasus last August, it just happened we found same one in Limavaddy and went there, but I was willing to "chance it" it would be difficult to prove either way.

Perhaps they may look for your ticket out? Ie, did you pay for caravan outward? That's one I thought of and was going to book bothways with caravan.

A lot has changed since I did it. The NOX charge for example I've no idea how that applies to campers.

I used an agent in the UK, it cost £500 at the time and it was well worth it. You can get agents in Japan. Make sure it's a proper camper with a kitchen. Looks along the side for vents for a water heater or gas powered fridge. Look at lots of ad for van for sale in Japan or via sites that bought them at auction so you know the type and van and what's in them. Get to know the models and size of vans. Above all check you can get insurance on a camper before you but, if you have no car already or recent claims or are under 25 expect problems. Warning Jap vans will be heavy on Diesel like 12ltr to the 100 heavy so 200km will cost you 50 euro.

You'll have to pay

Auction bid

FOB - Fee on boards price (shipping)

Customs clearance agent about 200 euro

Duty

VAT on ( FOB +duty ) @ 23 %

NOX

VRT

Any update on the Camper kadman. Did you buy, that VRT figure that you were quoted looked ridiculously low. Thanks.

Thanks kadman, think I will stick with my plan B, namely doing a conversion myself.

Has anyone done this yet, it would be great to see a worked example from NI pre Brexit and NI or mainland post Brexit.