Cyberpunk - CD Project Red

Markitron · 11-12-2020 2:42pm

super_furry wrote: »

Could this be the thing that finally helps to turn public opinion on Stadia?

No

Smiles35 · 11-12-2020 3:04pm

I'm stuck on the 'Disasterpiece' braindance (Love that mechanic btw). According to the guides I have the 3 clues I need scanned. The cup, the box on the table and the patch from the suit. Yet, I'm not getting the promt to exit.

Underground · 11-12-2020 3:07pm

Potentially stupid question for those playing on Playstation - I don't seem to see a PS5 version of this. Are you just buying the PS4 version and playing it on the PS5?

EoinMcLovin · 11-12-2020 3:09pm

Underground wrote: »

Potentially stupid question for those playing on Playstation - I don't seem to see a PS5 version of this. Are you just buying the PS4 version and playing it on the PS5?

There is no PS5 version available yet

Zero-Cool · 11-12-2020 3:09pm

Underground wrote: »

Potentially stupid question for those playing on Playstation - I don't seem to see a PS5 version of this. Are you just buying the PS4 version and playing it on the PS5?

Yupp, ps5 version won't be out til something 2021.

johnny_ultimate · 11-12-2020 3:11pm

The one thing I’d say is that while there’s a better version coming, the game is immensely playable on PS5 at the moment. The day one semi-upgrade is thankfully more substantial than I’d expected - frame rate alone seems like a night and day difference compared to even the Pro.

AdamD · 11-12-2020 3:15pm

Despite the crashes there is definitely a brilliant game in there, I think anyone with the patience to wait a couple of months for the ps5 version will have a great experience. One issue I have thats a bit bizarre because its so easily fixable is that the mini map is far too zoomed in so by the time you see that you need to turn its virtually impossible to do so if driving quickly.

The combat seems to improve over time as you level up

Varik · 11-12-2020 3:20pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U7sRwyqqhw

Next video is a spoiler, one you may already know about but if unsure don't watch.

Spoiler for the mission the heist, the thing you use the flathead for.

Entire mission was like this, going to have to watch this on YouTube myself. If I got too far away he'd disappear.

sticker · 11-12-2020 3:49pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

The one thing I’d say is that while there’s a better version coming, the game is immensely playable on PS5 at the moment. The day one semi-upgrade is thankfully more substantial than I’d expected - frame rate alone seems like a night and day difference compared to even the Pro.

I'm still happy to wait to experience this with full patch for the new hardware. The bugs look very immersion breaking. Thats a deal breaker for me right now.

sticker · 11-12-2020 3:51pm

AdamD wrote: »

Despite the crashes there is definitely a brilliant game in there, I think anyone with the patience to wait a couple of months for the ps5 version will have a great experience. One issue I have thats a bit bizarre because its so easily fixable is that the mini map is far too zoomed in so by the time you see that you need to turn its virtually impossible to do so if driving quickly.

The combat seems to improve over time as you level up

The mini map issue has been noted a lot online - I would think it might be a quick fix to remedy - baffling it went through so much testing and it wasn't implemented.

OneLungDavy · 11-12-2020 4:03pm

How are the RPG elements? Is there much focus on character building? Is there motivation to explore?

11-12-2020 4:20pm

This all looks pretty dreadful, tbh. I'm glad I didn't pre-order.

Parabellum9 · 11-12-2020 4:36pm

Question for ye lads - did anyone manage to get the settings sorted enough to make the shooting feel like standard FPS? I’ve tried the Reddit tips but once I ADS I’m all over the place, would like just a bit more control over it but can’t see any options to do so apart from sensitivity which I’m happy enough with outside gunplay

titan18 · 11-12-2020 4:59pm

Tbh, even outside all the bugs and crashes I'm having, I think this game isn't anywhere close to some of the other open world games that have been released in the last few years.

Combat is meh (albeit a bit better if you use tech abilities than melee or guns), driving is a chore, the AI is terrible, all the claims of people on the streets having their own lives and they'd move around was bs, nearly anyone I've seen just stands there and tells you to fcuk off if you chat to them. Feck all people driving in the game too, it's a pretty empty open world in most areas. There's a few exceptions but most streets are just empty.

Graphically, I don't find it bad on PS4 pro. It's not what it should be or what other studios delivered on consoles, but it's not as bad as the base graphics I'm seeing at least.

Underground · 11-12-2020 5:05pm

Judging by the feedback here and elsewhere, I think I might hold off on buying this for a while. Sounds like it's nowhere near finished, maybe it'll get the post release finish similar to No Man's Sky.

Blazer · 11-12-2020 5:06pm

Underground wrote: »

Judging by the feedback here and elsewhere, I think I might hold off on buying this for a while. Sounds like it's nowhere near finished, maybe it'll get the post release finish similar to No Man's Sky.

I booted it up and it looks good on series X, but Christ it needed another 1-3 months.
I’ll park it for the moment and come back to it in a few weeks.

Smiles35 · 11-12-2020 5:13pm

OneLungDavy wrote: »

How are the RPG elements? Is there much focus on character building? Is there motivation to explore?

Rpg, elements. I think of crafting first. I got a fright with I saw that pop up in my menu. I heard it was there, forgot all about it. I usually don't touch crafting in a game as it feels convoluted to go to some apparatus to preform it. This was accesable from the get go with a click on the menu and all the parts I needed for some crafting were allreading in my inventory. Now I don't feel like I'm avoiding some part of the game.

Charater bulding? I can't tell you yet. I'm not that deep into the game to tell you if you can detach yourself and be happy to play a role away the narative.

Motivation to explore? The city is overwhelming. I'd have to say no to any disire to search the city itself. Smaller places like rooms and looking for loot? Yes!

SomeSayKos · 11-12-2020 5:40pm

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Look at 8:31 and tell me that is not late Xbox 360/PS3. Just shocking.

Yeah, it doesn't look amazing, but i think it looks like a ps4 struggling rather than a ps3

SomeSayKos · 11-12-2020 5:43pm

SomeSayKos wrote: »

Yeah, it doesn't look amazing, but i think it looks like a ps4 struggling rather than a ps3

Not that i'm excusing it or anything. This game clearly shouldn't have come out on current gen

sticker · 11-12-2020 6:15pm

I feel it is utter BS to suggest that a game 8+ years in development will not have the latest gfx values as other recent PS4 games - that it started devlopment with a restricted toolbox...

This was their choice and they sold it as a far higher claibre game gfx wise.

All base PS4 footage is just dire with this game - Theres simply no excuse...

RasTa · 11-12-2020 6:17pm

DF said it's fine on the PS4 pro, solid 30fps without much dips

How Soon Is Now · 11-12-2020 6:27pm

So played this for a bit last night and today. So far I've enjoyed it haven''t really explored the map too much though.

Haven't noticed any major bugs and glitches the odd ending up on top of something or walking into stuff that's about it.

So far based on my short time with the game my biggest issue is the loading times they really take you out of the action at times. I hope the Ps5 update is out sooner than later as it could elevate the game to a seriously higher level.

bennyl10 · 11-12-2020 6:32pm

Another day another no smyths

xtal191 · 11-12-2020 6:35pm

RasTa wrote: »

DF said it's fine on the PS4 pro, solid 30fps without much dips

Theres plenty of dips in the video they posted even going as low as 15fps

xtal191 · 11-12-2020 6:37pm

Amount of people who must've watched this less than a month ago thinking it would be fine on their PS4

awec · 11-12-2020 6:53pm

Been playing a few hours, picked the Corpo thing, it's pretty decent but the bugs are ridiculous. I have trees spawning everywhere in my game, updating gfx drivers now to see if that fixes it. The menus are crap but that won't be surprising for Witcher players.

When I hit V to summon my car it literally spawned in right in front of me before driving about 3ft forward. So I saw it appear as a block, then the low quality textures before the good textures finally loaded. Totally broke the immersion.

Playing on PC with a 1070 and performance is playable, and it looks pretty good.

detoxkid · 11-12-2020 7:10pm

bennyl10 wrote: »

Another day another no smyths

Exact same. No game wtf. What is the best way to contact them?

Gyan84 · 11-12-2020 7:26pm

Playing on ps5 so I've only found minor bugs like pedestrians walking through me and npcs playing the guitar without any guitar in their hands ( I guess they could be really futuristic air guitarists :pac:)

The game is definitely overwhelming in the start when it throws everything at you and then once your finished the tutorials you get phone calls from 5 different people.

One issue I've found is that guns are way too weak. I know I'm only level 3 but I just sprint and slash at people with a sword because it's more effective than getting 5 or 6 headshots.

Also, is there any quest log like the journal in the Witcher 3 ? I'm trying to see a list of all the side quests I've started but I can't find it.

Smiles35 · 11-12-2020 7:44pm

Things got hard fast. I'm off the main quest doing side jobs around Valentinos area. I can get one shoted now as soon as i try to approch the goons. I need tons of money for upgrades. I don't even own a car yet. Anyone suss out a strong easy money earner yet?

DarC_Kn1ght · 11-12-2020 7:52pm

Don't bother selling any of your junk. Just disassemble each item into parts then sell that part. Make 2/3 times as much on each item..

xtal191 · 11-12-2020 8:29pm

one armed dwarf · 11-12-2020 8:49pm

Reading on reddit people are saying that the AI doesn't really do pathfinding very well, at least while driving. Apparently all driving AI is predetermined. Even in missions where there are car chases they are kind of scripted to finish at a certain point, allegedly

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kb2jgj/i_just_realized_that_there_is_no_ai_for_driving/

Honestly sort of tracks with what I've been seeing. I also saw some weird **** where outside V's apartment every single car would crash right into the same bollards on the side of the road and phase right through

titan18 · 11-12-2020 9:05pm

PC gamer have a good article. Surprised it took 60 hours for them to realise it
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/the-more-time-i-spend-in-cyberpunk-2077s-world-the-less-i-believe-in-it/

The people part in particular was very evident to me. They do nothing but stand about. Things like that arent stuff that will be easily patchable (if it broken)

Sephiroth_dude · 11-12-2020 9:09pm

I don't get it, how could rockstar get RDR looking decent on a ps4 but CD can't get this looking good? different game engines?

one armed dwarf · 11-12-2020 9:19pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

I don't get it, how could rockstar get RDR looking decent on a ps4 but CD can't get this looking good? different game engines?

Cyberpunk is just way more dense, RDRII mostly takes place in sparse wilderness with trees and foliage.

It basically boils down to having to render way more stuff, having way more verticality and NPCs moving about. Then there's the way the game has to constantly stream in all this stuff while you drive around.

It's kind of nuts to me that this released on consoles at all. I have a 3070 and running this smooth presents a challenge, as it currently is I'd be hesitant to play on a PS5, never mind a PS4.

Gyan84 · 11-12-2020 9:20pm

I hope the robotic eyes in the game become reality soon because the quest journal was sitting in front of my face the whole time. It was even called the journal

I hope the ps5 version makes the lift in the apartment complexes faster because they're pretty long after playing other games on ps5.

johnny_ultimate · 11-12-2020 9:20pm

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

"But it looks great on the PS5/Series X!" Does it though? I'm seeing high frame rates, better reflections and sweat but the graphics still look mediocre and washed out overall.
The only version of this game that looks anywhere near decent is the PC.

I think it genuinely looks pretty good on PS5 on a 1080p TV. A bit washed out at times, and some low-res textures here and there. But for what is a PS4 game it looks great and plays smoothly. I’m sure the full fat next gen version will be plenty impressive and quite a few steps up, but more than happy playing this version for now.

Shame about the deeply mediocre game underneath it all, though :pac:

titan18 · 11-12-2020 9:43pm

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Cyberpunk is just way more dense, RDRII mostly takes place in sparse wilderness with trees and foliage.

It basically boils down to having to render way more stuff, having way more verticality and NPCs moving about. Then there's the way the game has to constantly stream in all this stuff while you drive around.

It's kind of nuts to me that this released on consoles at all. I have a 3070 and running this smooth presents a challenge, as it currently is I'd be hesitant to play on a PS5, never mind a PS4.

Spiderman looks and runs great then and is same city game.

And tbh, I'd rather RDR2 lack of NPC's but the NPC's actually bring sometimes to the game than Cyberpunks NPC's who might as well not exist for all they bring. I'm not even a huge fan of RDR2, but it's a long way ahead of this imo.

I quite like some of what Cyberpunk has done in what I've played so far. There's some good missions, although most fall into the usual open world ones of go here, kill people and bring something back, but there's a few I played that did shine through, and I do like the quickhacking part of combat so it's not all negative but this aint RDR2, Witcher 2/3, Spiderman, Horizon or even AC Odyssey level of quality imo.

one armed dwarf · 11-12-2020 9:47pm

Being playing with the 'psycho' ray traced setting, it looks alright I'd say
https://i.imgur.com/LCHhyQ4.png

titan18 wrote: »

Spiderman looks and runs great then and is same city game.

And tbh, I'd rather RDR2 lack of NPC's but the NPC's actually bring sometimes to the game than Cyberpunks NPC's who might as well not exist for all they bring. I'm not even a huge fan of RDR2, but it's a long way ahead of this imo.

I quite like some of what Cyberpunk has done in what I've played so far. There's some good missions, although most fall into the usual open world ones of go here, kill people and bring something back, but there's a few I played that did shine through, and I do like the quickhacking part of combat so it's not all negative but this aint RDR2, Witcher 2/3, Spiderman, Horizon or even AC Odyssey level of quality imo.

Spidey's city isn't as dense as CP2077 tho if I remember. This is a way more dense environment with a lot greater detail and more complex geometry. It's like a city of Deus Ex style hubs (admittedly none of the hubs are anywhere near as interesting to explore as a DE game)

as to the NPCs yeah, they are the worst I've seen in a game for a long time. Thinking of setting crowds down to medium for better performance, the city is generally quite barren on PC except for a few locations and it's not really a worthwhile setting to keep on full I think

titan18 · 11-12-2020 9:55pm

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Being playing with the 'psycho' ray traced setting, it looks alright I'd say
https://i.imgur.com/LCHhyQ4.png

Spidey's city isn't as dense as CP2077 tho if I remember. This is a way more dense environment with a lot greater detail. It's like a city of Deus Ex style hubs (admittedly none of the hubs are anywhere near as interesting to explore as a DE game)

I'm really not seeing the detail tbh. Feck all NPC's or vehicles in a lot of areas in the city. They're there in some areas (megabuilding, cherry blossom market etc) but no one in others. I ran from apartment to North Oak and feck all cars on the road. Lots of low res textures (vending machines and cars in particular I find)

Parabellum9 · 11-12-2020 10:01pm

DarC_Kn1ght wrote: »

Don't bother selling any of your junk. Just disassemble each item into parts then sell that part. Make 2/3 times as much on each item..

Some of the jewellery will you net you 750e a pop though, worth checking before you disassemble. Have to say I’m loving it so far having had the chance to play a few more hours - great atmosphere and vibe to it. Just have to tinker with the settings a bit to get the driving and shooting feeling better and I’ll be sorted. Can’t say the graphical stuff is bothering me at all at this point, the most frequent glitch I see are the T poses but I’ve just lored that as a new form of on the spot yoga they practice in night city

one armed dwarf · 11-12-2020 10:02pm

Tbh I don't really know what the console version is like, on PC at least it's the most dense and multilayered city setting I've ever seen in a game. Which is what distinguishes for me from stuff like Spidey which is for the most part doesn't offer any verticality (sans one really cool section where you beat up goons on a skyscraper, wish the game did that more).

Basically up until this point every city setting I can think of has just being on a single flat layer that you drive around, with very few interiors and no upper or lower levels. Nowhere near the same level of alleys and bridges, nooks and crannies that this game features. It's a layer cake of a world.

This is the reason I think why Cyberpunk is crushing systems. The reason why the game might be bare on console is it may be culling back NPCs and cars so that it has just enough overhead to load in the multi-storyed map.

But yeah overall RDRII is a more beautiful and appealing game to look at and move around. But the reason that scales so well to current generation is this same reason I think. You can tune down vegetation, water physics, reflections etc etc etc without cutting back on the world design of RDRII. It's easy to scale when it's just cosmetics, but Cyberpunk has to have its dense city setting, so I think the console version is cutting everything else back just to meet the bare minimum required to actually load the city in the first place

Robert ninja · 11-12-2020 10:09pm

Played a little on the hardest mode. As I expected my hardware isn't enough although I was streaming. If I wasn't streaming I could definitely finish the game @ 30fps but that's just not how I want to experience it. 2021 new PC with hopefully some big updates to the game, proton (and all its libraries) will give me the experience I'm looking for.

Didn't really get deep into the gameplay but like others mentioned I was disappointed with the nomad beginning. I just wanted to Mad Max it up as my succubus and ignore the city and main story but it forces you to go there. Scripted opening gunfight is also really meh. I can suspend my disbelief to a degree but how are military-tier goons in armoured vehicles, who are ambushing me, getting blown up from me firing a revolver at them in a junkyard car? As far as I could tell you can't duck back into the car to reload, either.

gimli2112 · 11-12-2020 10:11pm

after 6 hours my view changed, it's a good game but the graphics and the actual gameplay are unforgiveable
so many fps games do this better and I know this is an rpg but the gunplay is awful
once you step out out of the main story and start doing the side missions it becomes more apparent, these guys are good story tellers and they may have been good programmers in 2009 but now they've come up with a terrible mess
I had enough and went onto warzone, the difference was jarring

my prediction will be this is the biggest disappointment of 2020 and will win that category in videogames too

Zero-Cool · 11-12-2020 10:14pm

17gb on PS5. Couldn't download it as i didn't have enough space. I had 50gb free, had to delete one of the few games left to start the download. I thought that Bollox wouldn't happen on the PS5.

https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1337504661251690497?s=19

Robert ninja · 11-12-2020 10:25pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

17gb on PS5. Couldn't download it as i didn't have enough space. I had 50gb free, had to delete one of the few games left to start the download. I thought that Bollox wouldn't happen on the PS5.

https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status /1337504661251690497?s=19

New hotfix to Cyberpunk 2077 is now live on PlayStation consoles and PC. For Xbox systems, we are working to have the update out as soon as possible. Here is the list of changes:

Quests
Fixed an issue with completing the final objective in Gig: Freedom of the Press.

Fixed an issue with starting conversation with Johnny at the end in Life During Wartime.

Corrected a rare issue with NPCs no longer calling V if A Like Supreme quest was abandoned mid-way.

Fixed an issue with Nix not going into his default state in Spellbound and KOLD MIRAGE.

Fixed issues blocking progress in I Fought The Law if the quest area is left.

Fixed inability to find Delamain in Epistrophy.

Fixed issues related to remaining in the second phase of the quest after finishing Pacifica fight with Ozob if played after Finals.

Fixed an issue with Nomads no longer present if V leaves the quest area mid-combat in With a Little Help from My Friends/Queen of the Highway.

Adjusted mappings and re-enabled quest tracker in M'ap Tann Pèlen/I Walk the Line/Transmission.

Fixed constraints on freedom to get up and sit down if neither blueline condition is met in Violence.

Fixed issues with time and space resulting from leaving the quest area or abandoning the quest in Following the River.

Fixed an issue with conversation with Johnny not starting after leaving the hotel in Tapeworm.

Fixed an issue with quest being blocked upon leaving the quest area before climbing the hill in Following the River.

Fixed the objective “Go into booth 9” not completing if the room’s entered too fast in Automatic Love.

Fixed Jackie’s issues with sitting still in The Ripperdoc.

Other quest fixes

Gameplay
Fixed the preview in weapon crafting.

Visual
Reduced vehicle appearance pop-in.

Speeded up switching first person perspective to third person perspective in a vehicle.

Fixed issues with animations missing from important quest NPCs during cinematics.

Performance & Stability
Improved stability, including various crash fixes.

Miscellaneous
Modified the flashing effect on braindances to reduce the risk of inducing epileptic symptoms. The effect has been smoothed out and the flashes reduced in frequency and magnitude.

Removed copyrighted songs incorrectly present in the game with "Disable Copyrighted Music" feature toggled on.

PC-specific
Switching language to default in the in-game settings now correctly sets it to the language of your Steam client.

Console-specific
Improved reflections quality on Xbox One and PlayStation 4 to eliminate the smudge effect.

Fixed “The Wasteland” achievement being stuck on 97% after completing all relevant missions in The Badlands on Xbox.

Fixed an issue with missing PT-BR VO for Xbox players in Americas.

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Parabellum9 · 11-12-2020 10:25pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

17gb on PS5. Couldn't download it as i didn't have enough space. I had 50gb free, had to delete one of the few games left to start the download. I thought that Bollox wouldn't happen on the PS5.

https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1337504661251690497?s=19

You need to invest in an external drive man, 4TB are cheap enough these days. I got one last Xmas and have about 90 games installed between flat screen and VR, with about 900Gb still to spare

Zero-Cool · 11-12-2020 10:33pm

Parabellum9 wrote: »

You need to invest in an external drive man, 4TB are cheap enough these days. I got one last Xmas and have about 90 games installed between flat screen and VR, with about 900Gb still to spare

Ye I'll have to keep an eye out for one in the new year i think.

ERG89 · 11-12-2020 11:06pm

Nearly 70GB's in updates in the first 48 hours. What a smooth launch.

froog · 11-12-2020 11:08pm

turning additive camera motions to off is a HUGE improvement.

Cyberpunk - CD Project Red

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