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The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    What about FF's David who resigned straight away.

    Did you think he shouldn't have?

    Do you think it's OK if we all ignore the guidelines?

    Is that SFs stance?

    What?

    I criticised SF at the time...they got it wrong. Nobody should be ignoring guidelines, but loads have from government ministers to state funerals.

    If Dara Calleary thought it appropriate to resign, that's his decision. I would have been happy with an admission he did the wrong thing and a sincere apology.
    He has more integrity than the FGer who tried to calamatously and arrogantly lie his way out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Rules were broken.

    There is no two ways about it.

    Doesn't matter if its a funeral or a golf outing.

    Many people couldn't and still can't go to loved ones funerals but SF and their members are different??

    Michelle knows what she should do.

    But it's SF so we know they will never face up to their mistakes.

    Ever.

    Sure FG went to a funeral too and sure didn't aul Leo have a bash to celebrate leaving the park.

    https://twitter.com/BTriagain/status/1304115934110650368?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    What is it you were wanting to see JJ?

    Michelle has admitted to what I criticised her for. Good.
    That's that then.

    A funeral was never the same thing as a jolly for the golf lads and the elites.
    Nor was it the same thing as a FG Commissioner lying to everybody including his EU boss and when caught having to resign.

    It wasn't a funeral, Francis. Bobby wasn't in the box during the militaristic march to the Republican plot.

    It's just utter hypocrisy on behalf of SF and its supporters.

    Not a normal party.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It wasn't a funeral, Francis. Bobby wasn't in the box during the militaristic march to the Republican plot.

    It's just utter hypocrisy on behalf of SF and its supporters.

    Not a normal party.

    Flanking a coffin as a group or club is 'militaristic'? :)

    Oh johnny! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Flanking a coffin as a group or club is 'militaristic'? :)

    Oh johnny! :D

    What definitely wasn't a funeral was that golf pissup. Judges. Journalists and MEP's partying like the last days of Rome during a pandemic. Oh and a few mystery guests that they're refusing to name. A normal party lol. That one even made the papers in China ffs.

    https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1297186387804819456?s=08


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    smurgen wrote: »
    What definitely wasn't a funeral was that golf pissup. Judges. Journalists and MEP's partying like the last days of Rome during a pandemic. Oh and a few mystery guests that they're refusing to name. A normal party lol. That one even made the papers in China ffs.

    And not a photo or video has emerged, leading to the suspicion that they knew exactly what they were doing and banned them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    And not a photo or video has emerged, leading to the suspicion that they knew exactly what they were doing and banned them.

    One wonders what they've been up to that we're not aware of . Undoubtedly Gardai present also, the big wigs would hardly drive sure. Sinister!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Flanking a coffin as a group or club is 'militaristic'? :)

    Oh johnny! :D

    A fake coffin. He went to the crematorium, the fake coffin went to the graveyard, it was a political pageant.

    It wasn’t the Boy Scouts, it was a militaristic display to show that Sinn Fein and their sociopathic friends still controlled the community.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    A fake coffin. He went to the crematorium, the fake coffin went to the graveyard, it was a political pageant.

    It wasn’t the Boy Scouts, it was a militaristic display to show that Sinn Fein and their sociopathic friends still controlled the community.

    Yeh, all those people forced out at gunpoint...tens of 1000's watching online.

    Oh blanch! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    smurgen wrote: »
    What definitely wasn't a funeral was that golf pissup. Judges. Journalists and MEP's partying like the last days of Rome during a pandemic. Oh and a few mystery guests that they're refusing to name. A normal party lol. That one even made the papers in China ffs.

    https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1297186387804819456?s=08

    Great link showing Dara Calleary doing the right thing while Michelle and Mary-Lou refuse to do so. Well done for highlighting the difference in integrity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Great link showing Dara Calleary doing the right thing while Michelle and Mary-Lou refuse to do so. Well done for highlighting the difference in integrity.

    So anyone ignoring guidelines should resign...that your position. Where is your call for the resignations of all the others at Golfgate? Can you link to it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Great link showing Dara Calleary doing the right thing while Michelle and Mary-Lou refuse to do so. Well done for highlighting the difference in integrity.

    What integrity? We don't even know who attended the golf pissup yet. Shrouded in secrecy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    So anyone ignoring guidelines should resign...that your position. Where is your call for the resignations of all the others at Golfgate? Can you link to it?

    Politicians in positions of responsibility like Dara Calleary, Phil Hogan, Jerry Buttimer et al have resigned and rightly so. Michelle and Mary-Lou should follow suit or once again the empty words of Sinn Fein are on display to all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Politicians in positions of responsibility like Dara Calleary, Phil Hogan, Jerry Buttimer et al have resigned and rightly so. Michelle and Mary-Lou should follow suit or once again the empty words of Sinn Fein are on display to all.

    So anyone ignoring guidelines should resign...that is your position?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Politicians in positions of responsibility like Dara Calleary, Phil Hogan, Jerry Buttimer et al have resigned and rightly so. Michelle and Mary-Lou should follow suit or once again the empty words of Sinn Fein are on display to all.

    Who else will need to resign? We need a list of attendees to judge. I hope Gardai are provided with a list of all attendees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    smurgen wrote: »
    What integrity? We don't even know who attended the golf pissup yet. Shrouded in secrecy.

    I am not calling on any private individuals who attended the golf dinner or who formed part of the military guard of honour at Storey’s funeral to resign their jobs or be fired, it is the politicians in positions of responsibility who must do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    smurgen wrote: »
    Who else will need to resign? We need a list of attendees to judge. I hope Gardai are provided with a list of all attendees.

    Silly nonsense, as I am not asking for the name of every individual who went to the Storey funeral, only the politicians.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    blanch152 wrote: »
    I am not calling on any private individuals who attended the golf dinner or who formed part of the military guard of honour at Storey’s funeral to resign their jobs or be fired, it is the politicians in positions of responsibility who must do so.

    How do you know they were private individuals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Politicians in positions of responsibility like Dara Calleary, Phil Hogan, Jerry Buttimer et al have resigned and rightly so. Michelle and Mary-Lou should follow suit or once again the empty words of Sinn Fein are on display to all.

    Resigned for not abiding by social distancing guidelines at a funeral?

    minister-for-justice-charles-flanagan-centre-and-minister-for-rural-community-development-michael-ring-right-at-the-funeral-of-detective-garda-colm-horkan-at-st-james-church-in-charlestown-co-mayo-2C3N731.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    smurgen wrote: »
    How do you know they were private individuals?

    I don’t know, do you have a list of the attendees at the funeral? Let’s release the book of condolences to the public.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Resigned for not abiding by social distancing guidelines at a funeral?

    minister-for-justice-charles-flanagan-centre-and-minister-for-rural-community-development-michael-ring-right-at-the-funeral-of-detective-garda-colm-horkan-at-st-james-church-in-charlestown-co-mayo-2C3N731.jpg

    That comparison has been debunked many times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    That comparison has been debunked many times.

    It has? :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    blanch152 wrote: »
    I don’t know, do you have a list of the attendees at the funeral? Let’s release the book of condolences to the public.

    I have a list for the golf pissup alright. Not the full one yet. The others so scandalous they're under an omerta. Tell me. These all resign ?

    https://twitter.com/JuanyKeville/status/1304045776146923524?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,571 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Whataboutery.

    Why am I not surprised.

    Jesus I know why I don't bother anymore.

    4-5 usual crew still here doing multiple reports and getting posters banned.

    24/7 operation.

    I'm actually admitting ill never defeat you lads.....

    Enjoy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Whataboutery.

    Why am I not surprised.

    Jesus I know why I don't bother anymore.

    4-5 usual crew still here doing multiple reports and getting posters banned.

    24/7 operation.

    I'm actually admitting ill never defeat you lads.....

    Enjoy.

    I know how you feel, I'm just back from a ban myself.

    Why did you think you had to 'defeat' people by the way, this is a forum to express and argue your viewpoint. Very arrogant to think you have to be allowed 'defeat' someone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,961 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Resigned for not abiding by social distancing guidelines at a funeral?

    minister-for-justice-charles-flanagan-centre-and-minister-for-rural-community-development-michael-ring-right-at-the-funeral-of-detective-garda-colm-horkan-at-st-james-church-in-charlestown-co-mayo-2C3N731.jpg

    Did they organise a detour midway through the funeral to hold a political rally?
    Because otherwise it’s not that comparable at all - despite you repeatedly spamming to try and claim otherwise

    Typical of the SF acolytes - strawman to their hearts content to try and defend the indefensible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    blanch152 wrote: »
    That comparison has been debunked many times.

    I obviously missed it being debunked many times.

    I'm all ears now though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blackwhite wrote: »
    Did they organise a detour midway through the funeral to hold a political rally?
    Because otherwise it’s not that comparable at all - despite you repeatedly spamming to try and claim otherwise

    Typical of the SF acolytes - strawman to their hearts content to try and defend the indefensible

    Who defended it...I think SF got the whole thing wrong.
    Covid doesn't know what a political rally is BTW...it looks for groupings of people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 541 ✭✭✭rdwight


    And not a photo or video has emerged, leading to the suspicion that they knew exactly what they were doing and banned them.

    Still promoting the Great Missing Selfie Mystery, Francie?

    Maybe it's a cultural thing: maybe golfers aren't in the habit of taking selfies at socially-distanced dinners while nordies have a quaint tradition of gurning for selfies at funerals.

    Do you seriously think the golfers confiscated cameras thinking they would keep their malfeasance a secret? In a hotel? In Ireland? There was even a video of the seating plan posted on boards.ie





    .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    blackwhite wrote: »
    Did they organise a detour midway through the funeral to hold a political rally?
    Because otherwise it’s not that comparable at all - despite you repeatedly spamming to try and claim otherwise
    I know you're son of a doctor (according to posts on this very site before you pretend to be outraged :D), so maybe ask Dr Blackwhite of the family if covid gives a shiny turd what the purpose of an event is that people are congregating at, and whether or not it will potentially infect folk, and be further spread by people at certain event's and not at others (depending on whether it's a political rally or a Garda funeral) should social distancing be flouted.
    Typical of the SF acolytes - strawman to their hearts content to try and defend the indefensible


    The irony of the above *wooshing* repeatedly over your head BW. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 541 ✭✭✭rdwight


    So anyone ignoring guidelines should resign...that is your position?

    How about politicians with direct responsibility for setting guidelines?


    Anyway, I would have liked Michelle O'Neill to resign for the sheer novelty of seeing a Sinn Fein politician actually take full responsibility for something rather than express less- than convincing regret after they have been forced to do so

    “I accept that we have not been able to deliver clear messaging in the format that was the practice before this controversy.”.

    "It wasn’t my intention this would happen, but it did, I accept this and I regret this is the case".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    rdwight wrote: »
    Still promoting the Great Missing Selfie Mystery, Francie?

    Maybe it's a cultural thing: maybe golfers aren't in the habit of taking selfies at socially-distanced dinners while nordies have a quaint tradition of gurning for selfies at funerals.

    Do you seriously think the golfers confiscated camerasthinking they would keep malfeasance a secret? In a hotel? In Ireland? There was even a video of the seating plan posted on boards.ie

    I think it isn't outside the bounds of possibility that there was a request not to take photos/videos. Hard to explain why a snapshot even has not appeared. 81 people all dressed up and not a picture?

    Are you telling me you have never been to a funeral were after the funeral there isn't some jovial meeting and greeting of people? You haven't been to an Irish funeral if that's the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    rdwight wrote: »
    How about politicians with direct responsibility for setting guidelines?


    [/I]

    No actually. I never looked for the resignation of multiple people I have criticised on these forums for breaking guidelines and the spirit of the guidelines, including SF ones.

    Consistency...you should try it sometime.


  • Registered Users Posts: 541 ✭✭✭rdwight


    I think it isn't outside the bounds of possibility that there was a request not to take photos/videos. Hard to explain why a snapshot even has not appeared. 81 people all dressed up and not a picture?

    Are you telling me you have never been to a funeral were after the funeral there isn't some jovial meeting and greeting of people? You haven't been to an Irish funeral if that's the case.

    Not where selfies were involved. And certainly not during the Covid lockdown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    McMurphy wrote: »
    I obviously missed it being debunked many times.

    I'm all ears now though.


    Here it is debunked again for the umpteenth time, no doubt you will still produce the same pic the next time.
    blackwhite wrote: »
    Did they organise a detour midway through the funeral to hold a political rally?
    Because otherwise it’s not that comparable at all - despite you repeatedly spamming to try and claim otherwise

    Typical of the SF acolytes - strawman to their hearts content to try and defend the indefensible


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    McMurphy wrote: »
    I know you're son of a doctor (according to posts on this very site before you pretend to be outraged :D), so maybe ask Dr Blackwhite of the family if covid gives a shiny turd what the purpose of an event is that people are congregating at, and whether or not it will potentially infect folk, and be further spread by people at certain event's and not at others (depending on whether it's a political rally or a Garda funeral) should social distancing be flouted.




    The irony of the above *wooshing* repeatedly over your head BW. :D

    So you think political rallies with hundreds, maybe thousands attending as we saw with the fake Bobby Storey one should have the same status as small funerals. Is your name really Donald?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    rdwight wrote: »
    Not where selfies were involved.
    How would you know?
    And certainly not during the Covid lockdown
    Which MON acknowledged and apologised for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Here it is debunked again for the umpteenth time, no doubt you will still produce the same pic the next time.

    So Covid knew to stay away from one gathering and not the other? Is that what is called 'debunking' now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Here it is debunked again for the umpteenth time, no doubt you will still produce the same pic the next time.

    I've already replied, but maybe you'll explain to me (and anyone else reading these threads) how covid (a virus) could distinguish the difference between a "political rally", and a "non political rally" and how it has evolved to have the complexity not to infect and further spread between one group of mourners and not the others.

    I'll put the moka pot on the hob here in anticipation, and have a morning coffee while reading this explanation with great interest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    McMurphy wrote: »
    I've already replied, but maybe you'll explain to me (and anyone else reading these threads) how covid (a virus) could distinguish the difference between a "political rally", and a "non political rally" and how it has evolved to have the complexity not to infect and further spread between one group of mourners and not the others.

    I'll put the moka pot on the hob here in anticipation, and have a morning coffee while reading this explanation with great interest

    It is not about Covid distinguishing, it is about what is deemed essential, otherwise every hospital would be closed because that is where the highest risk is.

    The Storey funeral wasn’t a funeral, he wasn’t even in the coffin at the graveyard because he was being cremated elsewhere, it was a political rally. I don’t know why you are still defending it when even Mary-Lou has conceded she was wrong to attend. She hasn’t done the decent thing like Dara Calleary and resigned, but nobody ever expects a Sinn Fein politician to do the decent thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    It is not about Covid distinguishing, it is about what is deemed essential, otherwise every hospital would be closed because that is where the highest risk is.

    The Storey funeral wasn’t a funeral, he wasn’t even in the coffin at the graveyard because he was being cremated elsewhere, it was a political rally. I don’t know why you are still defending it when even Mary-Lou has conceded she was wrong to attend. She hasn’t done the decent thing like Dara Calleary and resigned, but nobody ever expects a Sinn Fein politician to do the decent thing.

    Do you think anyone in a position of responsibility breaking guidelines should resign?

    If so, where are your calls for resignation for all those who have broken guidelines. Did you call for Calleary, Buttimer and Hogan to resign before they did or did you defend them?

    Back up your answers with links, save me going back to check your postings before they resigned.

    *Posting that it was the 'right thing' AFTER they resigned is not acceptable...let's see your morally upstanding call for resignations before they did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    blanch152 wrote: »
    It is not about Covid distinguishing, it is about what is deemed essential, otherwise every hospital would be closed because that is where the highest risk is.

    The Storey funeral wasn’t a funeral, he wasn’t even in the coffin at the graveyard because he was being cremated elsewhere, it was a political rally. I don’t know why you are still defending it when even Mary-Lou has conceded she was wrong to attend. She hasn’t done the decent thing like Dara Calleary and resigned, but nobody ever expects a Sinn Fein politician to do the decent thing.

    I'm pretty sure a funeral is deemed essential, no matter who the person was that it's being held for, the fact you have a fairly unhealthy obsession over the political party the deceased was a member of is irrelevant.

    Btw, I'm not defending it, I said from the very first news article covering it that they (SF) should not have been so careless with the social distancing guidelines being flouted at time's, but I wasn't calling for members of AGS or FG ministers to resign or be sacked for flouting the same guidelines at Garda Horkans funeral either - calling me a hypocrite, despite me being the opposite doesn't help your case I'm afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,961 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    McMurphy wrote: »
    I know you're son of a doctor (according to posts on this very site before you pretend to be outraged :D), so maybe ask Dr Blackwhite of the family if covid gives a shiny turd what the purpose of an event is that people are congregating at, and whether or not it will potentially infect folk, and be further spread by people at certain event's and not at others (depending on whether it's a political rally or a Garda funeral) should social distancing be flouted.




    The irony of the above *wooshing* repeatedly over your head BW. :D

    It’s been explained before (but seemingly facts that don’t suit the SF agenda get repeatedly ignored :rolleyes:) that the chances of transmission increase the longer people are congregated together.
    Adding in a needless political rally significantly increased the time that crowds were congregated, and increased the risks for no reason other than glorify the party/cult.

    Of course - you know this and will continue to ignore it because it might make the cult look bad.


    (Good to know that there’s a file of my posts somewhere in the basement of Parnell Square for you all to draw upon when you start to feel rattled - the PMs must be pinging around the usual crew tonight :pac:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    blackwhite wrote: »
    It’s been explained before (but seemingly facts that don’t suit the SF agenda get repeatedly ignored :rolleyes:) that the chances of transmission increase the longer people are congregated together.
    Adding in a needless political rally significantly increased the time that crowds were congregated, and increased the risks for no reason other than glorify the party/cult.

    Of course - you know this and will continue to ignore it because it might make the cult look bad.


    So Garda Horkans funeral was done and dusted before covid had a chance to spread/infect :confused:

    2020-06-22_new_59801659_I2.JPG

    Has it perhaps dawned on you yet, that you might be talking a complete and utter load of scutter?
    (Good to know that there’s a file of my posts somewhere in the basement of Parnell Square for you all to draw upon when you start to feel rattled - the PMs must be pinging around the usual crew tonight :pac:)

    Maybe take off the tinfoil hat, (I was posting in the very same thread you alluded to the fact you now think is "on file")


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blackwhite wrote: »
    It’s been explained before (but seemingly facts that don’t suit the SF agenda get repeatedly ignored :rolleyes:) that the chances of transmission increase the longer people are congregated together.
    Adding in a needless political rally significantly increased the time that crowds were congregated, and increased the risks for no reason other than glorify the party/cult.

    Of course - you know this and will continue to ignore it because it might make the cult look bad.


    (Good to know that there’s a file of my posts somewhere in the basement of Parnell Square for you all to draw upon when you start to feel rattled - the PMs must be pinging around the usual crew tonight :pac:)

    WTF?

    Gatherings of people not observing the guidelines are and were wrong.

    Why are you justifying one and not the other? Both were wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,961 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    McMurphy wrote: »
    So Garda Horkans funeral was done and dusted before covid had a chance to spread/infect :confused:

    2020-06-22_new_59801659_I2.JPG

    Has it perhaps dawned on you yet, that you might be talking a complete and utter load of scutter?



    Maybe take off the tinfoil hat, (I was posting in the very same thread you alluded to the fact you now think is "on file")

    I received a PM before from one of your fellow travellers trying to target another poster - the tactics of SF supporters in here are well documented at this stage.

    Both the Storey and Horkan funerals drew gives crowds, which brought risks with them.

    Only the Storey “funeral” had a diversion midway through which significantly increased the time and the risk involved.

    Does the concept of different degrees of risk really go over your head - or is this more of the wilful ignorance that descends when the facts mights suit the party agenda?

    SF organised a political rally which increased the risk of transmission above and beyond what it would otherwise have been. Neither funeral was a good idea (the Hume funeral in Derry showed what should have been done) - but the charade that SF engaged in at Milltown cemetery increased the risk further above what the funeral on its own would have caused.

    It really shows us how much credibility we can attach to the shinner acolytes on here that they continually lie and pretend that there was no difference between the two funerals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    WTF?

    Gatherings of people not observing the guidelines are and were wrong.

    Why are you justifying one and not the other? Both were wrong.

    Why has no-one yet advocated for the return of mass gatherings at concerts or sport events with signs explaining to the virus that the mass congregation of people are for sporting or musical events (and not "political rallies") - sure there'd be no need to restrict them at all.

    Sometimes it's best to admit to ass hat posting tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    blackwhite wrote: »
    I received a PM before from one of your fellow travellers trying to target another poster - the tactics of SF supporters in here are well documented at this stage.

    What is this sh1t:confused:

    Take bullsh1t like the above to moderators or admin, I've absolutely the square root of nothing of interest to your BS conspiracy theories, sorry but I'm all out of sugarcoating.


    You posted scutter - I called it out, when you've some evidence (from esteemed folk) that details how covid can differentiate between a Garda funeral, and that of a member of a political party you dislike we'll discuss it, otherwise pm me something of interest.

    Thank you and goodnight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,987 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blackwhite wrote: »
    I received a PM before from one of your fellow travellers trying to target another poster - the tactics of SF supporters in here are well documented at this stage.

    Both the Storey and Horkan funerals drew gives crowds, which brought risks with them.

    Only the Storey “funeral” had a diversion midway through which significantly increased the time and the risk involved.

    Does the concept of different degrees of risk really go over your head - or is this more of the wilful ignorance that descends when the facts mights suit the party agenda?

    SF organised a political rally which increased the risk of transmission above and beyond what it would otherwise have been. Neither funeral was a good idea (the Hume funeral in Derry showed what should have been done) - but the charade that SF engaged in at Milltown cemetery increased the risk further above what the funeral on its own would have caused.

    It really shows us how much credibility we can attach to the shinner acolytes on here that they continually lie and pretend that there was no difference between the two funerals.


    SF brought people together as did the state funeral...both were wrong.

    Your issue seems to be more with how ex IRA people are buried (they have been doing it this way for as long as I remember) in which case my advice would be, don't go to an exIRA person's funeral.

    If you go to a funeral and ignore guidelines you risk getting and spreading Covid. Some more advice, don't do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,961 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    McMurphy wrote: »
    What is this sh1t:confused:

    Take bullsh1t like the above to moderators or admin, I've absolutely the square root of nothing of interest to your BS conspiracy theories, sorry but I'm all out of sugarcoating.


    You posted scutter - I called it out, when you've some evidence (from esteemed folk) that details how covid can differentiate between a Garda funeral, and that of a member of a political party you dislike we'll discuss it, otherwise pm me something of interest.

    Thank you and goodnight.

    As suspected - the concept of different degrees of risk - and increasing the risk by holding a needless rally gets ignored because it doesn’t suit your cult :eek:

    Throw the toys out of the pram all you want - transparent as always in trying to ignore those inconvenient facts.

    Goodnight - and grow up


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