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  • #652
    digitalpoggy
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭digitalpoggy


    i was wondering if any1 could tell me if i need planning permission to install a satellit dish, 80cm in size?


  • #653
    jakartajim
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭jakartajim


    digitalpoggy wrote: »
    i was wondering if any1 could tell me if i need planning permission to install a satellit dish, 80cm in size?
    You can install a dish up to (*i think*) 1.1m on your house - as long as it does not protrude from the front facade of the dwelling.

    However, there are cases where housing estates which have managment companies involved - ban home owners from erecting dishes full stop. In this case, you would have signed an agreement to that effect when purchasing. As a point of curiousity, would be interested if anyone has the knowledge as regards whether this is enforceable (as have come across a real life example)??


  • #654
    jakartajim
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭jakartajim


    I would be interested to hear views on the following. If I was to locate a 'mobile home' at the side/rear of my property, would I be contravening irish planning law?
    To give you an idea of what I have in mind, I have come across a log cabin from a UK/Estonian supplier. It is mounted on a frame and according to them classed as a mobile structure. On their website, they suggest that as a result, it does not require (uk) planning consent ie its exempt. My question is would this also be the case under irish planning law?

    (As an aside, from a practical point of view, the cabin would be very sympathetically located - unseen from the front of my house due to planting. No neighbours to the side I will be placing it. You can never say for certain, but its very unlikely any of my neighbours would have a problem with it).



    Disclaimer: Mods please note that my query relates to working within whatever planning law is in place. Not trying to contravene - just work within the law to suit my own purposes.


  • #655
    smashey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    jakartajim wrote: »
    I would be interested to hear views on the following. If I was to locate a 'mobile home' at the side/rear of my property, would I be contravening irish planning law?
    To give you an idea of what I have in mind, I have come across a log cabin from a UK/Estonian supplier. It is mounted on a frame and according to them classed as a mobile structure. On their website, they suggest that as a result, it does not require (uk) planning consent ie its exempt. My question is would this also be the case under irish planning law?

    (As an aside, from a practical point of view, the cabin would be very sympathetically located - unseen from the front of my house due to planting. No neighbours to the side I will be placing it. You can never say for certain, but its very unlikely any of my neighbours would have a problem with it).



    Disclaimer: Mods please note that my query relates to working within whatever planning law is in place. Not trying to contravene - just work within the law to suit my own purposes.
    A mobile home requires permission so I'd say the same rules apply.


  • #656
    jakartajim
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭jakartajim


    smashey wrote: »
    A mobile home requires permission so I'd say the same rules apply.
    On average, would there be a lesser degree of difficulty in obtaining planning given the structure is classed as mobile as opposed to a fixed structure??

    (I know it depends on exact circumstances but just looking for a general guideline)


  • #657
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,316 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    jakartajim wrote: »
    On average, would there be a lesser degree of difficulty in obtaining planning given the structure is classed as mobile as opposed to a fixed structure??

    (I know it depends on exact circumstances but just looking for a general guideline)
    You definitely need permission and unless you can demonstrate that its only to be used on a short term basis then you could possibly encounter problems with your application.

    Other people are using these structures as a permanent residence and I would imagine the PA will take the same view.


  • #658
    mr president
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭mr president


    i am currently preparing a planning application for a client which involves the construction of a two story extension to an existing two story house. my question concerns the requirement to get a perculation test done. the existing dwelling is been lived in and has a working septic tank, however the client does intend to replace the existing septic tank and replace it with a more eco friendly system. are we required to get a perculation test? am i required it indicate the new and old system on the relevant site plan? am i required to mention the change in the newspaper notice? any advice would be greatly appreciated.


  • #659
    smashey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    mr president wrote: »
    i am currently preparing a planning application for a client which involves the construction of a two story extension to an existing two story house. my question concerns the requirement to get a perculation test done. the existing dwelling is been lived in and has a working septic tank, however the client does intend to replace the existing septic tank and replace it with a more eco friendly system. are we required to get a perculation test? am i required it indicate the new and old system on the relevant site plan? am i required to mention the change in the newspaper notice? any advice would be greatly appreciated.
    Yes to all.


  • #660
    mr president
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭mr president


    thanks for your reply. however i would have thought that because there is an existing septic tank already in use on the site that that would suggest that the ground is already suitable and there would be no need to do a test. is it always mandatory to do perculation test for all extentions?


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  • #661
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,316 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    mr president wrote: »
    thanks for your reply. however i would have thought that because there is an existing septic tank already in use on the site that that would suggest that the ground is already suitable and there would be no need to do a test. is it always mandatory to do perculation test for all extentions?
    No its not but your client proposes to decommission the existing septic tank and install a different type of treatment system.

    Having a tank on the site does not indicate that it is suitable. There most likely would not have been a site assessment carried out prior to the installation of the ex. tank.


  • #662
    Builderfromhell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭Builderfromhell


    Some planning authorities will require, as a request for further info., that a certified Site suitability assessor form their approved list confirms that the existing septic tanl and percolation area are suitable for the new development.
    In my opinion most if not all old septic tanks and percolation areas are not suitable. This means a Site suitability test would need to be done in order to determine what system best suits the site.
    This requirement may not apply in your area.


  • #663
    mr president
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭mr president


    sound advice, will get the test done. another question however: is it necessary to include levels on drawings, (ridge, eaves etc). as part of the build will involve raising the wall and ridge level of the existing building, is it possible to express these as figured dimensions only to avoid having to do a survey? to put the site in context it is in the middle of nowhere with no over looking neighbours and can see no reason why there will be any objections from anyone. i am more concerned of sending in the application and getting it sent back for missing levels . thanks for your help.


  • #664
    No6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭No6


    mr president wrote: »
    i am currently preparing a planning application for a client which involves the construction of a two story extension to an existing two story house. my question concerns the requirement to get a perculation test done. the existing dwelling is been lived in and has a working septic tank, however the client does intend to replace the existing septic tank and replace it with a more eco friendly system. are we required to get a perculation test? am i required it indicate the new and old system on the relevant site plan? am i required to mention the change in the newspaper notice? any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    If you replace the septic tank you need planning for it, therefore you need to do a site assessment, show it on the site plan and state that you are installing a new septic tank in the site notices.


  • #665
    RKQ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭RKQ


    mr president wrote: »
    is it necessary to include levels on drawings, (ridge, eaves etc).

    It depends on the Validation at your local Council. Some do insist on contour levels for existing and proposed dwellings, while others don't require levels for extensions to existing - check with your Council.


  • #666
    Home4Life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Home4Life


    a chairde:

    (Apologies for the awful formatting - now hopefully corrected Muffler.

    two quick ones:

    1 Limit on Velux windows:

    I plan to put in 2 velux windows facing my back garden,
    each 980 x 780 mm - (0.76 * 2 = 1.5 m2)

    is this ok without planning?

    2 Is there no limit to solar panel area on a roof?

    I plan to put in 3m2 of solar panels, this will have a footprint of 4m2

    is this ok without planning?

    3 I know this is a basic question, but what the average rear roof area

    ]of a 4 bed semi house?

    Thanks
    H4L


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  • #667
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,316 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Could you re-post that again using boards.ie default text setting. You have obviously copied and pasted from another source.


  • #668
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,855 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Home4Life wrote: »
    a chairde:

    (Apologies for the awful formatting - now hopefully corrected Muffler.

    two quick ones:

    1 Limit on Velux windows:

    I plan to put in 2 velux windows facing my back garden,
    each 980 x 780 mm - (0.76 * 2 = 1.5 m2)

    is this ok without planning?

    2 Is there no limit to solar panel area on a roof?

    I plan to put in 3m2 of solar panels, this will have a footprint of 4m2

    is this ok without planning?

    3 I know this is a basic question, but what the average rear roof area

    ]of a 4 bed semi house?

    Thanks
    H4L


    1. its debatable, but the common consensus is that roof lights to the rear are exempt.

    2. theres a limit of 6 sq meters.

    3. really depends, but somewhere in the region of 45-55 would be average


  • #669
    Curious Geroge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Curious Geroge


    Hi all, I see this has been a fairly active thread for some time so hoping to get a reply to this post.

    With the big "R" about so much these days, have the planners laid off the ordinary joe or are we still been forced to build the matchbox with no angles and zero design ? Seems that the only ones that are allowed to build anything reseambling architectural value is the builders with the contacts.. Planning to go fwd with planning but local planners are telling me there only the two types of house ii can build, a single story or a two story match box.. This flies directly in the face of the multi level glass houses that local builders are getting in but all the planners I've visited have recommended the same.. Any ideas or help on my best approach would be great..

    I'm in Galway county and tougher again, in the restricted building limitation but local so presume i'm ok..


  • #670
    RKQ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭RKQ


    Curious Geroge wrote: »
    With the big "R" about so much these days, have the planners laid off the ordinary joe or are we still been forced to build the matchbox with no angles and zero design ? Seems that the only ones that are allowed to build anything reseambling architectural value is the builders with the contacts..

    Seek Professional help from an experienced Architectural Technician or Architect. Design is subjective, so I suppose it depends on what you call resembling architectural value.

    Most Counties have examples of very modern contemporary design. Of course there is a fine line between good design and garish design.
    Curious Geroge wrote: »
    local planners are telling me there only the two types of house ii can build, a single story or a two story match box..

    Very strange choice.... can't understand it as floor area seems more of an issue than height. Maybe have another meeting, giving clear reasons for your design proposals. A good design will relate to the site, its contours, features and surroundings. It won't stick out like a sore thump and its should not look mundane.


  • #671
    No6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭No6


    George I would suggest that you engage the services of a local Architect / Technologist / Engineer who is dealing with the planners in the area of your site on a regular basis. They can advise you, or if you want some light reading before you go back to work download the Co Development Plan, any local area plan for your area and any rural housing guidelines if available. Make sure you comply with the local housing need rules before you spend any money don't assume just because you're local you're entitled to build


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  • #672
    Essexboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    Does anyone know what the story is about field entrances?
    A local farmer has just knocked down part of the ditch on a local road without applying for planning permission - does he need it? There is an existing entrance from another road.


  • #673
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,316 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Essexboy wrote: »
    Does anyone know what the story is about field entrances?
    A local farmer has just knocked down part of the ditch on a local road without applying for planning permission - does he need it? There is an existing entrance from another road.
    Short answer - yes.


  • #674
    Essexboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    muffler wrote: »
    Short answer - yes.

    Thanks. May be more to this than meets the eye.


  • #675
    mr president
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭mr president


    hey everyone,
    currently prepareing a planning app for an extension. the planning dept have told me that i need contours on the site plan and levels on the new and existing structures on the plans elevations etc. i intend to do a survey at the weekend. my question is, are the local datums / benchmarks shown on the OS maps? if not, what is the best way to locate them?


  • #676
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,316 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    mr president wrote: »
    hey everyone,
    currently prepareing a planning app for an extension. the planning dept have told me that i need contours on the site plan and levels on the new and existing structures on the plans elevations etc. i intend to do a survey at the weekend. my question is, are the local datums / benchmarks shown on the OS maps? if not, what is the best way to locate them?
    It varies. You may get the datum on some area and not others. Just use the centre of the road as a TBM and work from that.


  • #677
    No6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭No6


    Use a Discovery Map 1:50000 scale to get an approximate level above Ordanance Datum (within 10m) and use that level as a Temporary Bench Mark


  • #678
    mr president
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭mr president


    does that mean i can just call the centre of the road +00.000 and work out all levels in relation to that and use them on the dwgs? showing on the site plan the point i used as a TBM. sorry if im getting you all wrong here. thanks for your help all the same.


  • #679
    mr president
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭mr president


    No6 wrote: »
    Use a Discovery Map 1:50000 scale to get an approximate level above Ordanance Datum (within 10m) and use that level as a Temporary Bench Mark

    where can i view a discovery map? never heard the term before. cheers.

    sorry....i get ya.


  • #680
    smashey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    mr president wrote: »
    does that mean i can just call the centre of the road +00.000 and work out all levels in relation to that and use them on the dwgs? showing on the site plan the point i used as a TBM. sorry if im getting you all wrong here. thanks for your help all the same.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055426958


  • #681
    mr president
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭mr president


    cheers guys, think i have it sorted.


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  • #682
    rodred
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭rodred


    Hi,

    i am about to lodge planning in Dlrcoco, and was wondering
    about the contribution to local infrastructure to the council.

    can anyone tell me what or how much these contributions are likley
    to be. is it doen on a precentage of build or site costs???


    any info is much appreciated.

    cheers
    Rob


  • #683
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,316 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    rodred wrote: »
    Hi,

    i am about to lodge planning in Dlrcoco, and was wondering
    about the contribution to local infrastructure to the council.

    can anyone tell me what or how much these contributions are likley
    to be. is it doen on a precentage of build or site costs???


    any info is much appreciated.

    cheers
    Rob
    No idea but have a trawl through their online planning site and look for permissions granted recently for houses and have a look through them.

    Alternatively just give them a ring and you should get the answer. When i think of it your agent should know.

    Also have a look at this thread


  • #684
    littlecbear
    Registered Users Posts: 109 ✭✭littlecbear


    Hello


    I am building a house for which pp was granted back in '04. The permission is for a septic tank. The house I am building will have composting toilets so we only need to be concenred with waste water disposal. I contacted the planners asking if I could install a willow bed system for greywater disposal rather than a septic tank. Surprise surprise the planners said no.

    Is there any point putting up a fight against this? From what I have read septic tanks are inefficient and smelly (prob wont be in our case as it wont contain black water waste) whereas our proposed alternative is eco friendly and efficient it just seems like stupid bureaucracy to me!

    Any advice?


  • #685
    RKQ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭RKQ


    littlecbear wrote: »
    I am building a house for which pp was granted back in '04. The permission is for a septic tank. The house I am building will have composting toilets so we only need to be concenred with waste water disposal.

    Any advice?

    Comply fully with the Conditions of your 2004 Planning Permission.

    Composting toilets are a nice eco idea but there are no statutory test results, IAB certs or EPA recommendations on their use. So in a planning or Envirnomental sense, they don't exist. (Reed beds are being tested by EPA)

    Septic tanks may or may not be fantastic but they are legal, tested and approved. The septic tank is a condition of your contract with the Council. Keep it legal - comply with your permission.:)


  • #686
    Slig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭Slig


    littlecbear wrote: »
    Hello


    I am building a house for which pp was granted back in '04. The permission is for a septic tank. The house I am building will have composting toilets so we only need to be concenred with waste water disposal. I contacted the planners asking if I could install a willow bed system for greywater disposal rather than a septic tank. Surprise surprise the planners said no.

    Is there any point putting up a fight against this? From what I have read septic tanks are inefficient and smelly (prob wont be in our case as it wont contain black water waste) whereas our proposed alternative is eco friendly and efficient it just seems like stupid bureaucracy to me!

    Any advice?

    I would imagine that the bulk of the waste exiting the house will actually be from showers, baths, sinks, washing machines etc. so I dont think the toilets will make an impact. Keeping the septic tank etc. will allow you to convert back to conventional toilets if necessary.
    If planning was granted in '04 you'd want to get the skates on:D


  • #687
    eatsloads
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭eatsloads


    My house backs onto Bettyglen house in Raheny. Can be seen on

    http://www.chrisryan.ie/ (go to Projects/Conservation/Bettyglen House)

    Beautiful area, big old trees and not over looked at rear. Original planning application to build apt block beside Bettyglen house was rejected but on appeal part of the planning went through. New Site notice now in place with 'smaller' proposal....the gable end to the new proposal is directly to the back of my wall.....Block B on the site plan on website above......My sunlight will be completely taken......How do I lodge my objection to this? How far can I go with my objection.......Any help would be great

    Thanks


  • #688
    Slig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭Slig


    eatsloads wrote: »
    My house backs onto Bettyglen house in Raheny. Can be seen on

    http://www.chrisryan.ie/ (go to Projects/Conservation/Bettyglen House)

    Beautiful area, big old trees and not over looked at rear. Original planning application to build apt block beside Bettyglen house was rejected but on appeal part of the planning went through. New Site notice now in place with 'smaller' proposal....the gable end to the new proposal is directly to the back of my wall.....Block B on the site plan on website above......My sunlight will be completely taken......How do I lodge my objection to this? How far can I go with my objection.......Any help would be great

    Thanks

    You dont need a professional to word it for you but you'll only get one chance to write it so I would advise going to a planning consultant (a real one with qualifications!!).
    They should be able to include all the valid reasons for the development to be refused and provide backing for them.


  • #689
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,316 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Slig wrote: »
    You dont need a professional to word it for you but you'll only get one chance to write it so I would advise going to a planning consultant (a real one with qualifications!!).
    They should be able to include all the valid reasons for the development to be refused and provide backing for them.
    Way to go!


  • #690
    mr.stonewall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    currently applied for planning for a 1 1/2 storey in a rural area house in north tipp before christmas. a neighbour has lodges an objection based on 3 areas (excuse my ignorace im new to the planning game)

    1 the landscaping plan had planting of trees that were 15 metres from his house. the same neighbour removed the hedgerow bounding the site 15 years ago. wondering is there a min distance

    2 the lights cars would invade his privacy. the drive is 40-50 metres away from house at nearest point and would have min impact due to the orientation of the drive. also to note the neighbours house is angled to the road and is constantly impacted by passing traffic due to timber fence and being 10ft from the road

    3 the floor level would of the proposed house would be 3 metres above his and the house would invade his privacy. the propsed house is over 120 metres from his.

    just wondering what would the outcome be like with the planners
    also what are the options available to me


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  • #691
    RKQ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭RKQ


    Everyone has a democratic right to object to a planning application, if they feel it will deminish their privacy, health or daylight. However, an Objector would be wise to seek professional advice and keep objections to points within planning law.

    1. Landscaping is not structure. Trees can be omitted as a condition of planning, if the Planner agrees with your neighbour. Trees usually add privacy and shelter.

    2. Car headlights IMO is not a planning issue. I assume there is a public road beside the existing property!

    3. How is your proposed floor level 3m above your neighbours??
    This is a concern and may be quite a valid objection. Maybe your proposed landscaping will offset this problem. Can you give more details?

    There is nothing you can do about the objection. If the Planner requests Further Info, then you may get a chance to address your neighbours concerns. The Planner will maKe a decision based on your application, the objection and the Development Plan. Sit back and wait, Good luck!


  • #692
    mr.stonewall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    just in regard to being 3m difference in floor level said that it would be be overlooking him. his house would be the same height as the proposed house. would it help with the house being 120m away


  • #693
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,316 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    mr.stonewall wrote: »
    just in regard to being 3m difference in floor level said that it would be be overlooking him. his house would be the same height as the proposed house. would it help with the house being 120m away
    Get someone to check the levels involved.

    Personally I dont see any problem with overlooking at a separating distance of 120 metres.


  • #694
    Home4Life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Home4Life


    a chairde,

    a quick one for you:
    Velux windows facing into the back garden are excempt as far as I know.

    How about putting one on the side (gable?) end of the roof,
    which would be facing neigthbours,
    though lsoping upwards, so not overlooking?

    And also a few metres from their house?

    Is this ok?

    Thanks,
    H4L


  • #695
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,316 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Home4Life wrote: »
    a chairde,

    a quick one for you:
    Velux windows facing into the back garden are excempt as far as I know.

    How about putting one on the side (gable?) end of the roof,
    which would be facing neigthbours,
    though lsoping upwards, so not overlooking?

    And also a few metres from their house?

    Is this ok?

    Thanks,
    H4L
    This is one of the contentious areas of rooflights. Placing 3 to the rear is normally accepted as being exempt however to the side does kick up some divided opinion.

    I have seen ABP rule in one instance that velux windows to the side of a rear extension was exempt but personally I wouldnt think you would get a sympathetic hearing should you ever wanted to sell in the future.

    I would suggest that you seek a determination from your local PA.


  • #696
    curaldo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭curaldo


    just a quick question that im afraid to ask the council. i have been granted planning permission in a large field that we own. the site is set back quiet a bit from the road which involves a long lane to be put in. i now want to bring the house forward to shorten the lane. it will be outside of the original site but in the same field. Do i need a totaly new planning application or can i make an ammendment or can i go ahead and build and apply for retention.

    thanks in anticipation.


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  • #697
    No6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭No6


    curaldo wrote: »
    just a quick question that im afraid to ask the council. i have been granted planning permission in a large field that we own. the site is set back quiet a bit from the road which involves a long lane to be put in. i now want to bring the house forward to shorten the lane. it will be outside of the original site but in the same field. Do i need a totaly new planning application or can i make an ammendment or can i go ahead and build and apply for retention.

    thanks in anticipation.

    God help us, its a completely new application you could before you buildanything apply for athe same house in a revised location and with a revised site boundary because if the council think you are trying to get two houses in the same field they will most likely refuse you.

    Dont do anything that may require retention if you can possibly avoid it.


  • #698
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,316 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    curaldo wrote: »
    just a quick question that im afraid to ask the council. i have been granted planning permission in a large field that we own. the site is set back quiet a bit from the road which involves a long lane to be put in. i now want to bring the house forward to shorten the lane. it will be outside of the original site but in the same field. Do i need a totaly new planning application or can i make an ammendment or can i go ahead and build and apply for retention.

    thanks in anticipation.
    In a word - Yes! Once you move outside of the original site boundaries then you will have to reapply. Shouldnt be a major job though - more annoying at the timescale involved.

    take a minute and read the charter. You're new here so I will give you a wee bit of leeway. We dont advocate or encourage the flaunting of the planning rules.


  • #699
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,855 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    No6 wrote: »
    God help us, its a completely new application you could before you buildanything apply for athe same house in a revised location and with a revised site boundary because if the council think you are trying to get two houses in the same field they will most likely refuse you.

    Dont do anything that may require retention if you can possibly avoid it.

    i would agree with muffler.... and go a little further to say that any change at all in the location of the dwelling on site would require planning.

    there may be a slight bit of leeway but thats up to your certifier...


  • #700
    RKQ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭RKQ


    I agree, in simple terms a Grant of Permission can be considered a Contract between you and your Local Authority.

    You agree to build a structure on lands as clearly defined in your application, the L.A. agrees to this. Any change to the Contract invalidates the terms of the Contract - a new Contracrt is required.

    In your case the house and sewerage facilities will be in a completely different place.

    Build the house in full compliance with your Planning Permission or make a new application.


  • #701
    curaldo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭curaldo


    Thanks for all your advice. Also wasn't my intention to pull the wool over anyones eyes, just wan't to see if there was a legal way to my problem without aving to submit a new application. Anyway I think i'll be going back to the planning office. Should my precs still holdup as i have to put in a pureflow system.

    Thanks again.


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