Breaking the rules in club colours

AndrewJRenko · 30-01-2019 11:59pm

average_runner wrote: »

No idea who this club is, but the link road from Tallaght to Lucan will have the same cycling club break the rules of the road around 9:40 every Sat morning going from Tallaght to Lucan direction. Cycling 3-6 abreast and taking up both lanes of the roundabout when going straight on.

That would explain the reports on AA Roadwatch every Saturday about the huge tailbacks on those roundabouts. They must hold up traffic for at least, ooh maybe 15 seconds?

Fighting Tao · 31-01-2019 12:01am

CramCycle wrote: »

I wear my boards jersey for sh1ts and giggles :pac:

I am outraged that you would make all Boards users look bad. We are all responsible for your actions!

buffalo · 31-01-2019 8:44am

ronoc wrote: »

Speaking as a (five-a-side) footballer they are giving all of us a bad name.

I play a bit of football myself.

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1bryan · 31-01-2019 9:53am

average_runner wrote: »

No idea who this club is, but the link road from Tallaght to Lucan will have the same cycling club break the rules of the road around 9:40 every Sat morning going from Tallaght to Lucan direction. Cycling 3-6 abreast and taking up both lanes of the roundabout when going straight on.

I saw a load of lads in Irish soccer jerseys walking 20 abreast on the road. It was outside the Aviva and a match was just over and I'm pretty sure that was all that turned up to see it.

Still though, 20 abreast is OUTRAGEOUS.

1bryan · 31-01-2019 9:56am

CramCycle wrote: »

Why not describe the jersey, quite likely the club is easily identifiable, you can then send the club secretary an email to notify them of the issue

there was a bit in the middle that covers the torso, sleeves to cover the arms, it had a zip on the front and I think (though can't be certain) there was writing on it.

GreeBo · 31-01-2019 9:59am

secman wrote: »

Most likely the angle of your view that makes you think they were 6 abreast !
The last 2 weeks I was out in groups, riding 2 abreast on every occasion we were beeped at numerous times, for what I have No idea as we were 2 abreast, most likely because we were on road !

Cycling two abreast but offset from each other means you are still taking up the space of 3-4 abreast.

No one cares how many abreast you are, they care how far out into the road you are.

Weepsie · 31-01-2019 10:05am

GreeBo wrote: »

Cycling two abreast but offset from each other means you are still taking up the space of 3-4 abreast.

No one cares how many abreast you are, they care how far out into the road you are.

By the hundreds, if not thousands of comments, this would seem to be bs, as it seems to be all a lot of people care about.

2 abreast are taking up the space of 2 abreast. Not more, not less.

Fighting Tao · 31-01-2019 10:06am

GreeBo wrote: »

Cycling two abreast but offset from each other means you are still taking up the space of 3-4 abreast.

No one cares how many abreast you are, they care how far out into the road you are.

Why do they care about that?

MojoMaker · 31-01-2019 10:29am

Or he could just fcuk off with his lunatic allegations.

GreeBo · 31-01-2019 10:33am

Weepsie wrote: »

By the hundreds, if not thousands of comments, this would seem to be bs, as it seems to be all a lot of people care about.

2 abreast are taking up the space of 2 abreast. Not more, not less.

Each pair are taking up the space of 2 abreast but a peloton of offset cyclists are taking up more than the space of 2.

People care about a comparatively slow moving road user(s) that they cant easily pass by.

GreeBo · 31-01-2019 10:34am

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Why do they care about that?

I'm almost certain you can figure that out for yourself?

Fighting Tao · 31-01-2019 10:37am

GreeBo wrote: »

I'm almost certain you can figure that out for yourself?

Ah...you mean to allow people in cars to squeeze by dangerously. :rolleyes:

Macy0161 · 31-01-2019 10:38am

GreeBo wrote: »

I'm almost certain you can figure that out for yourself?

We all know why they care about that - not enough room to close pass with on coming traffic.

But two abreast is two abreast, and legal, even if a group should tidy the feck up!

I've only used that road a couple of times (in a car), and I'd still go with it's a reasonable taking the lane to avoid being overtaken on, or cut up coming off, the roundabouts.

tunney · 31-01-2019 10:41am

GreeBo wrote: »

Cycling two abreast but offset from each other means you are still taking up the space of 3-4 abreast.

No one cares how many abreast you are, they care how far out into the road you are.

Lord forbid people would overtake vehicles* in a safe fashion rather than flooring it and nearly brushing off people. If being far enough out is required to be treated properly then so be it.

*Bicyles are vehicles too, and they pay the same about as road tax as cars

GreeBo · 31-01-2019 10:42am

MojoMaker wrote: »

Or he could just fcuk off with his lunatic allegations.

Indeed.

Dublin Wheelers.

Clontarf.

Gorey.

DCU.

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Fighting Tao · 31-01-2019 10:45am

I have no issue with someone on a bike being out so far out in the lane to ensure their safety. I would do it myself as I am in a better position to judge what is safe for me than a person in a car behind me that can't see the road ahead.

Macy0161 · 31-01-2019 10:49am

Of the photos I can see, 1 is clearly either a race or the start of a sportive, and the other one they're queing at bloody lights (NB: not going through red lights).

MojoMaker · 31-01-2019 10:49am

What do pictures of races and sportive events have to do with commuting cyclists?

Macy0161 · 31-01-2019 10:50am

MojoMaker wrote: »

What do pictures of races and sportive events have to do with commuting cyclists?

Or normal club runs!

Fighting Tao · 31-01-2019 10:52am

Greebo....I think you need your eyesight and depth perception tested for most of the photos. Look at the position of the wheels as they are a giveaway. Even taking that into account video is required as some could be in the process of overtaking which is also legal. They all look like organised events where the guards would be involved/aware/escort.

Dublin Wheelers - No evidence of more than 2 abreast.
Clontarf - Correct me if I'm wrong but that looks like the GDBR.
Gorey - Does being stopped at lights in view of the guards count. There is no evidence of them cycling more than 2 abreast.
DCU - No evidence of more than 2 abreast.

Chips Lovell · 31-01-2019 11:00am

Mod Note

Gentle reminder about the forum charter:

8. Negativity
There are lots of places on the internet where you can have a rant about cyclists. This isn't one of them. This is a place for people with an interest in cycling to discuss cycling. If you treat it as a venue for holding all cyclists to account for perceived or actual misbehaviour by some, you can expect to find your access swiftly removed. In short, we are not your punching bag. If you really do want do want an answer to your gripe, do a search. The usual topics, such as cycle lanes, cycling two abreast etc. have been discussed, ad nauseam, many, many times before

Chips Lovell · 31-01-2019 12:11pm

Mod Note

This thread isn't about cycling two abreast. Greebo, please don't post on this thread again.

Thanks

Mercian Pro · 31-01-2019 12:40pm

I'm curious to know if the charter allows me to criticise club members who turn up for club spins without full length mudguards or is it only certain types of criticism that are taboo?

CramCycle · 31-01-2019 12:44pm

Mercian Pro wrote: »

I'm curious to know if the charter allows me to criticise club members who turn up for club spins without full length mudguards or is it only certain types of criticism that are taboo?

Winter spins should always be accompanied by full length mudguards, and a dressing down in front of other club members, on boards and all other social media fora that you can access.

uck51js9zml2yt · 31-01-2019 12:46pm

oLoonatic wrote: »

I haven't been cycling the past week due to chest infection. but i see this every day, in particular people entering and exiting the park. Really grinds my gears (no pun intended).

Please don't break the rules of the road in any colours.

How about...please don't break the rules of the road.

secman · 31-01-2019 1:17pm

CramCycle wrote: »

Winter spins should always be accompanied by full length mudguards, and a dressing down in front of other club members, on boards and all other social media fora that you can access.

Guilty as charged, must try harder and check out decent sets .

AndrewJRenko · 31-01-2019 2:04pm

Gloria Tasteless Backgammon wrote: »

oLoonatic wrote: »

I haven't been cycling the past week due to chest infection. but i see this every day, in particular people entering and exiting the park. Really grinds my gears (no pun intended).

Please don't break the rules of the road in any colours.

How about...please don't break the rules of the road.

Presumably you NEVER break any of the rules yourself? Never go over the speed limit, check all your bulbs daily, never have a phone in your hand?

CramCycle · 31-01-2019 2:20pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Presumably you NEVER break any of the rules yourself? Never go over the speed limit, check all your bulbs daily, never have a phone in your hand?

Tatranska makes a fair point, regardless of whether in club colours or in regular clothes, you should be aiming not to break the law regardless, this goes for everyone on the road, no matter their mode of transportation. Asking for it doesn't mean you've never done it, and pointing out that they may have does not diminish the point.

AndrewJRenko · 31-01-2019 11:06pm

CramCycle wrote: »

Tatranska makes a fair point, regardless of whether in club colours or in regular clothes, you should be aiming not to break the law regardless, this goes for everyone on the road, no matter their mode of transportation. Asking for it doesn't mean you've never done it, and pointing out that they may have does not diminish the point.

I won't take sniping about cyclists breaking red lights from those who routinely break speed limits in motor vehicles, as the vast majority of drivers do.

magicbastarder · 01-02-2019 12:07am

i'm struggling to come up with a coherent response to that. are you suggesting that tatranska or CramCycle are said speeding motorists?

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