Breaking the rules in club colours

pot p

Driving up auburn avenue this morning and had a green light, a blanch wheelie came flying through the lights, please don't wear club colours when breaking the rules of the road

Fighting Tao

Did you tell him that? If not, he will probably continue to do it unless he reads Boards or you report it to the club. Many people still think of themselves as individuals and forget they are representing a club when wearing their colours.

pot p

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Did you tell him that? If not, he will probably continue to do it unless he reads Boards or you report it to the club. Many people still think of themselves as individuals and forget they are representing a club when wearing their colours.

No didn't tell him as I didn't want to be seen as if I was shouting out the window at a cyclist, I cycle with some of their members every now and again and will let them know. Was just trying to make aware that when u wear club colours you are representing the club

oLoonatic

I haven't been cycling the past week due to chest infection. but i see this every day, in particular people entering and exiting the park. Really grinds my gears (no pun intended).

Please don't break the rules of the road in any colours.

1bryan

I saw a guy in an Ireland soccer jersey kicking over a plant pot on the Rosie Hackett bridge last year. Just disgraceful how bad he made our country look.

PCX

1bryan wrote: »

I saw a guy in an Ireland soccer jersey kicking over a plant pot on the Rosie Hackett bridge last year. Just disgraceful how bad he made our country look.

A member of the public will probably not think that someone in an Ireland soccer jersey kicking plant pots on a bridge is a member of the national team or has any official connection with it.

However a normal member of the public would think that a person riding a bike in a cycle club jersey is a member of that club - and they will be correct in most cases.

You're comparing apples to oranges

1bryan

PCX wrote: »

A member of the public will probably not think that someone in an Ireland soccer jersey kicking plant pots on a bridge is a member of the national team or has any official connection with it.

However a normal member of the public would think that a person riding a bike in a cycle club jersey is a member of that club - and they will be correct in most cases.

You're comparing apples to oranges

no I'm not, I'm drawing an accurate analogy. He was probably Irish, and a disgrace to the rest of us, at that. Shame on him.

RobertFoster

1bryan wrote: »

I saw a guy in an Ireland soccer jersey kicking over a plant pot on the Rosie Hackett bridge last year. Just disgraceful how bad he made our country look.

Not exactly the same. No one's going to email Mick McCarthy over someone in a replica jersey pissing in a gateway before a match.

1bryan

I saw Mick on Dawson St the other week. I was fierce tempted to say it to him.

Chartsengrafs

RobertFoster wrote: »

Not exactly the same. No one's going to email Mick McCarthy over someone in a replica jersey pissing in a gateway before a match.

No but they might make a Boards post which would be just as useful.

daragh_

1bryan wrote: »

no I'm not, I'm drawing an accurate analogy. He was probably Irish, and a disgrace to the rest of us, at that. Shame on him.

It's really time the Footballing Community got their house in order.

tunney

I wear a different club's colours when acting the pr1ck on the roads. Assuming thats okay?

Hungrycol

I'm no longer a member of a club but occasionally I do wear a jersey out on the bike, mostly during the summer. I am still conscious I'm wearing it and while not representing the the club I still don't want to get them into trouble. I don't tend the break the RotR anyway so it's not really a big problem for me.

daragh_

daragh_ wrote: »

It's really time the Footballing Community got their house in order.

Speaking as a (five-a-side) footballer they are giving all of us a bad name.

Plastik

Assumed this thread was about giving up in a commuter race.

average_runner

pot p wrote: »

Driving up auburn avenue this morning and had a green light, a blanch wheelie came flying through the lights, please don't wear club colours when breaking the rules of the road

No idea who this club is, but the link road from Tallaght to Lucan will have the same cycling club break the rules of the road around 9:40 every Sat morning going from Tallaght to Lucan direction. Cycling 3-6 abreast and taking up both lanes of the roundabout when going straight on.

Fighting Tao

average_runner wrote: »

No idea who this club is, but the link road from Tallaght to Lucan will have the same cycling club break the rules of the road around 9:40 every Sat morning going from Tallaght to Lucan direction. Cycling 3-6 abreast and taking up both lanes of the roundabout when going straight on.

Go on. I’ll take a turn to entertain you. Show us the evidence.

secman

average_runner wrote: »

No idea who this club is, but the link road from Tallaght to Lucan will have the same cycling club break the rules of the road around 9:40 every Sat morning going from Tallaght to Lucan direction. Cycling 3-6 abreast and taking up both lanes of the roundabout when going straight on.

Most likely the angle of your view that makes you think they were 6 abreast !
The last 2 weeks I was out in groups, riding 2 abreast on every occasion we were beeped at numerous times, for what I have No idea as we were 2 abreast, most likely because we were on road !

Macy0161

I'd also say taking both lanes at a roundabout such as those is reasonable too - reduces the chances of being cut up/ taken out on the exit by an idiot who overtakes on the roundabout and tries to cut back into the driving lane from the overtaking lane.

Fighting Tao

Macy0161 wrote: »

I'd also say taking both lanes at a roundabout such as those is reasonable too - reduces the chances of being cut up/ taken out on the exit by an idiot who overtakes on the roundabout and tries to cut back into the driving lane from the overtaking lane.

They were most likely legally cycling 2 abreast in each lane. However, it is the fabled scenario of 6 abreast that no one seems to be able to provide evidence of that was mentioned.

Budawanny

average_runner wrote: »

No idea who this club is, but the link road from Tallaght to Lucan will have the same cycling club break the rules of the road around 9:40 every Sat morning going from Tallaght to Lucan direction. Cycling 3-6 abreast and taking up both lanes of the roundabout when going straight on.

And there was three of them riding six abreast Joe.

Chartsengrafs

average_runner wrote: »

No idea who this club is, but the link road from Tallaght to Lucan will have the same cycling club break the rules of the road around 9:40 every Sat morning going from Tallaght to Lucan direction. Cycling 3-6 abreast and taking up both lanes of the roundabout when going straight on.

You see them every Saturday but can’t identify the group? How hard can it be? If they’re cycling 6 abreast you should contact them directly.
For what it’s worth I regularly see below_average_runners hogging the bike lane in the Phoenix Park, in the dark. Some people are just d***s!

Hurrache

average_runner wrote: »

No idea who this club is, but the link road from Tallaght to Lucan will have the same cycling club break the rules of the road around 9:40 every Sat morning going from Tallaght to Lucan direction. Cycling 3-6 abreast and taking up both lanes of the roundabout when going straight on.

That road is two lanes each direction all the way from the N81 into Lucan isn't it, with the bus lane for a good portion on the Tallaght side not in effect. Even if they were 3-6 abreast, within the non operative or operative bus lane, it's hardly an issue.

average_runner

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Go on. I’ll take a turn to entertain you. Show us the evidence.

Can't take pics as driving

average_runner

Hurrache wrote: »

That road is two lanes each direction all the way from the N81 into Lucan isn't it, with the bus lane for a good portion on the Tallaght side not in effect. Even if they were 3-6 abreast, within the non operative or operative bus lane, it's hardly an issue.

Because they are breaking the rules of the road.

Fighting Tao

average_runner wrote: »

Can't take pics as driving

Of course you can’t provide evidence.

Hurrache

average_runner wrote: »

Because they are breaking the rules of the road.

Do you post in the motors forum every time you see someone in a car break the ROTR, which you will do?

Effects

average_runner wrote: »

Can't take pics as driving

Just get a dash cam. You seem to feel strongly about it. Do something about it.

CramCycle

tunney wrote: »

I wear a different club's colours when acting the pr1ck on the roads. Assuming thats okay?

I wear my boards jersey for sh1ts and giggles :pac:

CramCycle

Why not describe the jersey, quite likely the club is easily identifiable, you can then send the club secretary an email to notify them of the issue

daragh_

CramCycle wrote: »

tunney wrote: »

I wear a different club's colours when acting the pr1ck on the roads. Assuming thats okay?

I wear my boards jersey for sh1ts and giggles :pac:

Can confirm.

AndrewJRenko

average_runner wrote: »

No idea who this club is, but the link road from Tallaght to Lucan will have the same cycling club break the rules of the road around 9:40 every Sat morning going from Tallaght to Lucan direction. Cycling 3-6 abreast and taking up both lanes of the roundabout when going straight on.

That would explain the reports on AA Roadwatch every Saturday about the huge tailbacks on those roundabouts. They must hold up traffic for at least, ooh maybe 15 seconds?

Fighting Tao

CramCycle wrote: »

I wear my boards jersey for sh1ts and giggles :pac:

I am outraged that you would make all Boards users look bad. We are all responsible for your actions!

buffalo

ronoc wrote: »

Speaking as a (five-a-side) footballer they are giving all of us a bad name.

I play a bit of football myself.

1bryan

average_runner wrote: »

No idea who this club is, but the link road from Tallaght to Lucan will have the same cycling club break the rules of the road around 9:40 every Sat morning going from Tallaght to Lucan direction. Cycling 3-6 abreast and taking up both lanes of the roundabout when going straight on.

I saw a load of lads in Irish soccer jerseys walking 20 abreast on the road. It was outside the Aviva and a match was just over and I'm pretty sure that was all that turned up to see it.

Still though, 20 abreast is OUTRAGEOUS.

1bryan

CramCycle wrote: »

Why not describe the jersey, quite likely the club is easily identifiable, you can then send the club secretary an email to notify them of the issue

there was a bit in the middle that covers the torso, sleeves to cover the arms, it had a zip on the front and I think (though can't be certain) there was writing on it.

GreeBo

secman wrote: »

Most likely the angle of your view that makes you think they were 6 abreast !
The last 2 weeks I was out in groups, riding 2 abreast on every occasion we were beeped at numerous times, for what I have No idea as we were 2 abreast, most likely because we were on road !

Cycling two abreast but offset from each other means you are still taking up the space of 3-4 abreast.

No one cares how many abreast you are, they care how far out into the road you are.

Fighting Tao

GreeBo wrote: »

Cycling two abreast but offset from each other means you are still taking up the space of 3-4 abreast.

No one cares how many abreast you are, they care how far out into the road you are.

Why do they care about that?

MojoMaker

Or he could just fcuk off with his lunatic allegations.

GreeBo

Weepsie wrote: »

By the hundreds, if not thousands of comments, this would seem to be bs, as it seems to be all a lot of people care about.

2 abreast are taking up the space of 2 abreast. Not more, not less.

Each pair are taking up the space of 2 abreast but a peloton of offset cyclists are taking up more than the space of 2.

People care about a comparatively slow moving road user(s) that they cant easily pass by.

GreeBo

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Why do they care about that?

I'm almost certain you can figure that out for yourself?

Fighting Tao

GreeBo wrote: »

I'm almost certain you can figure that out for yourself?

Ah...you mean to allow people in cars to squeeze by dangerously. :rolleyes:

Macy0161

GreeBo wrote: »

I'm almost certain you can figure that out for yourself?

We all know why they care about that - not enough room to close pass with on coming traffic.

But two abreast is two abreast, and legal, even if a group should tidy the feck up!

I've only used that road a couple of times (in a car), and I'd still go with it's a reasonable taking the lane to avoid being overtaken on, or cut up coming off, the roundabouts.

tunney

GreeBo wrote: »

Cycling two abreast but offset from each other means you are still taking up the space of 3-4 abreast.

No one cares how many abreast you are, they care how far out into the road you are.

Lord forbid people would overtake vehicles* in a safe fashion rather than flooring it and nearly brushing off people. If being far enough out is required to be treated properly then so be it.

*Bicyles are vehicles too, and they pay the same about as road tax as cars

GreeBo

MojoMaker wrote: »

Or he could just fcuk off with his lunatic allegations.

Indeed.

Dublin Wheelers.



Clontarf.


Gorey.



DCU.

Fighting Tao

I have no issue with someone on a bike being out so far out in the lane to ensure their safety. I would do it myself as I am in a better position to judge what is safe for me than a person in a car behind me that can't see the road ahead.

Macy0161

Of the photos I can see, 1 is clearly either a race or the start of a sportive, and the other one they're queing at bloody lights (NB: not going through red lights).

MojoMaker

What do pictures of races and sportive events have to do with commuting cyclists?

Macy0161

MojoMaker wrote: »

What do pictures of races and sportive events have to do with commuting cyclists?

Or normal club runs!

Fighting Tao

Greebo....I think you need your eyesight and depth perception tested for most of the photos. Look at the position of the wheels as they are a giveaway. Even taking that into account video is required as some could be in the process of overtaking which is also legal. They all look like organised events where the guards would be involved/aware/escort.

Dublin Wheelers - No evidence of more than 2 abreast.
Clontarf - Correct me if I'm wrong but that looks like the GDBR.
Gorey - Does being stopped at lights in view of the guards count. There is no evidence of them cycling more than 2 abreast.
DCU - No evidence of more than 2 abreast.

Chips Lovell

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