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Newstalk: 'Lunchtime Live' with Andrea Gilligan

  • 04-06-2020 1:23pm
    #1
    Del.Monte
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    Am I being particularly dense but I can't find the thread for Lunchtime Live - has it been taken down? Ciara was talking so much crap today..... :confused:

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  • #2
    zell12
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    Yes, it was shut down.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2057790637


  • #3
    Del.Monte
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    So on she sails unchallenged - I'd almost be tempted to ring the show.

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  • #4
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,823 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    So on she sails unchallenged - I'd almost be tempted to ring the show.

    That would be the right approach.

    Don't think she reads boards.


  • #5
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have no idea what happened in the last thread. Have ye actually read it. Bunch of idiot posters started rambling at each other for pages and pages on end talking absolute sh/te that had nothing to do with anything. No wonder it was closed. :rolleyes:

    Hopefully this thread will go better.

    I'd also agree with a popular opinion that I get fed up with Ciara's constant turning of issues or problems into a story about herself. It's grating. Some of the general discussions aren't too bad though, and the topics aren't generally dreadful (though they're definitely a bit repetitive).


  • #6
    [Deleted User]
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    I am not a fan of Ciara Kelly. But I think debate and opinion is good and I was really surprised to see the last thread shut down! Other threads are allowed run and run on Boards. The thread on Ray D'arcy is almost slanderous at this stage. But Ciara Kelly's was taken down???

    Yes she makes every single issue and story about her, she reads out every single text with "Hi Ciara, love your show............................."
    (imagine Pat Kenny doing this, or Ivan Yates, or............anyone ??)

    She has constant need for attention which is hugely irritating. BUT she has tackled a few issues lately and done well. Particularly yesterday the one on teachers and schools re-opening in August/September. It MUST happen and she is backing this. She is having none of the excuses from teachers like "we can't go back to work, what will happen to our coffee break in the staff room?" She told them to bring in flasks! Well done on that. Similar with other issues during Covid.

    She needs to turn down her barometer on the attention seeking a lot , the me me me me narrative.............then she will be easier to listen to.


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  • #7
    [Deleted User]
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    She has constant need for attention which is hugely irritating. BUT she has tackled a few issues lately and done well. Particularly yesterday the one on teachers and schools re-opening in August/September. It MUST happen and she is backing this. She is having none of the excuses from teachers like "we can't go back to work, what will happen to our coffee break in the staff room?" She told them to bring in flasks! Well done on that. Similar with other issues during Covid.




    Reminds me of the time I had a flask, wait til I tell you... :D


  • #8
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    You are referring to Newstalk??
    Maybe include the Station name in this thread ??


  • #9
    [Deleted User]
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    ...............and she's off already! First item on today's show, Alzheimers, a woman text in about her Dad. Ciara has already said in the first 5 minutes she "has personal experience of this". We know this as she often mentioned her mother died from it................but wait till you see, she will take over and interject into all calls on this subject.

    Now she's talking about "her own" school days as to whether schools should reopen and have 30 people in classrooms.

    I wish she would just let people tell their own story and stop interrupting. Its not the CIARA KELLY show.


  • #10
    meeeeh
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    Well people with their own stories are not very good at maths.


  • #11
    [Deleted User]
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    I'm losing the will to live here listening to this.


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  • #12
    BPKS
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I'm losing the will to live here listening to this.

    I went and had a few substantial meals too many last night for the first time since March.

    Turned this on and heard her arguing with a Scottish fella about square metres.

    If my head didn't hurt before, it certainly does now.


  • #13
    Count Hairyfoot
    Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭Count Hairyfoot


    Deleted User wrote: »
    BUT she has tackled a few issues lately and done well. Particularly yesterday the one on teachers and schools re-opening in August/September. It MUST happen and she is backing this. She is having none of the excuses from teachers like "we can't go back to work, what will happen to our coffee break in the staff room?" She told them to bring in flasks! Well done on that. Similar with other issues during Covid.


    The only problem being of course that teachers aren't saying that. They're saying they'll work with whatever the health guidelines are and expect the same guidelines that other workplaces have to be enforced for them too. Listening to her last night on the TV she made out they all stopped work in March and will be the last people to return to work. She knows this isn't true, but the truth won't get her enough 30 cent messages to the show. They're returning to work after their holidays having worked to the end of the school term in whatever way they were able to. Remember she was all for the leaving cert being cancelled -I think she has someone doing it, but wanted primary schools to go back in June. She's always been anti teacher (and no I'm not one!) - though I heard her say her sister is one - I'm guessing she was the favourite at home!

    She gave hours once to whether or not it was right for teachers to get presents from kids at Christmas - she was of course dead against it which is fair enough, I never gave them a gift - but not a mention about all the gifts and free stuff GP's get of course.

    She's not even doing the Covid stuff all that well - she declared she'd be immune from Covid as shes had it - no scientific proof behind that and a dangerous thing for a GP to be saying on the radio.


  • #14
    Abel Ruiz
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I am not a fan of Ciara Kelly. But I think debate and opinion is good and I was really surprised to see the last thread shut down! Other threads are allowed run and run on Boards. The thread on Ray D'arcy is almost slanderous at this stage. But Ciara Kelly's was taken down???

    Definitely true.

    I think newstalk staff are on boards and constantly complaining about posts. There is now a few posting also.

    I'm surprised no one from rte is on to defend the three amigos tubs, darc and duffy. But perhaps rte staff are sick of their overpaid boyos.


  • #15
    ford fiesta
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    Change of thread title to "Newstalk - Lunchtime Live" would be handy


  • #16
    meeeeh
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    Abel Ruiz wrote: »
    Definitely true.

    I think newstalk staff are on boards and constantly complaining about posts. There is now a few posting also.

    I'm surprised no one from rte is on to defend the three amigos tubs, darc and duffy. But perhaps rte staff are sick of their overpaid boyos.

    Yeah and chemtralis definitely exist.


  • #17
    BPKS
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    The radio presenter filling in for Ciara Kelly who sounds the exact same as Ciara Kelly is shocked that men don't wash their hands after using the toilet of a pub.

    She is speechless.

    Oh my gawwwwwwwd.


  • #18
    Abel Ruiz
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    meeeeh wrote: »
    Yeah and chemtralis definitely exist.

    Shocked to see you here!!!!!!!!

    Excellent debating as usual.


  • #19
    meeeeh
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    Abel Ruiz wrote: »
    Shocked to see you here!!!!!!!!

    Excellent debating as usual.

    I'm also an alien and working for Newstalk*. Be very afraid....

    *not really


  • #20
    Indestructable
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    Jaysus this fella has been all over the radio and tv since he got Covid.


  • #21
    gourcuff
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    interesting discussion on discrimination in Ireland, terminology people use that may no longer be acceptable, must say the break from ciara kelly is no harm


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  • #22
    terryduff12
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    Finally a day we get to hear from the men in the country, any day I tune in the women are suffering from one thing to another


  • #23
    [Deleted User]
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    Gosh. She sounds........emotional


  • #24
    BPKS
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    Left it on after the Pat Kenny show as Andrea Gilligan is hosting and I generally like her when she fills in on the Breakfast Show.

    I'm surprised that she is so strong in her views about the pubs not being allowed to open (I agree wholeheartedly with her btw).

    Surprised she is going against the Newstalk norm on this - maybe she is putting herself forward to replace Ivan Yeats.


  • #25
    murpho999
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Gosh. She sounds........emotional

    A total illogical rant that was impartial and nonsensical.

    Shouldn't be allowed.


  • #26
    Allinall
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    I thought she spoke very well.

    She comes from a pub background, so easy to see where she was coming from.

    The biggest question, which she honed in on, is- What will be different in three weeks time to enable pubs to open?

    This hasn't been addressed at all by the folk making the decisions.


  • #27
    murpho999
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    Allinall wrote: »
    I thought she spoke very well.

    She comes from a pub background, so easy to see where she was coming from.

    The biggest question, which she honed in on, is- What will be different in three weeks time to enable pubs to open?

    This hasn't been addressed at all by the folk making the decisions.

    She spoke well? She was shouting.

    And now she's just getting angry publicans on the phone.


    The 3 weeks is buying more time for the virus to be surpressed.

    I know people miss pubs , I do myself , but I think it makes sense as alcohol and distancing just don't work.


  • #28
    Allinall
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    She spoke well? She was shouting.

    And now she's just getting angry publicans on the phone.


    The 3 weeks is buying more time for the virus to be surpressed.

    I know people miss pubs , I do myself , but I think it makes sense as alcohol and distancing just don't work.

    The virus is suppressed.

    Maybe you have an answer....

    What can be different in three weeks time to enable pubs to open?


  • #29
    murpho999
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    Allinall wrote: »
    The virus is suppressed.

    Maybe you have an answer....

    What can be different in three weeks time to enable pubs to open?

    It's suppressed but number of cases has been increasing over the last few weeks and the R number has gone up.

    3 weeks more buys time and hopefully the numbers come down.

    I think pubs opening now would have increased the number of cases.


  • #30
    0xzmro3n4y7lb5
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    Allinall wrote: »
    I thought she spoke very well.

    She comes from a pub background, so easy to see where she was coming from.

    The biggest question, which she honed in on, is- What will be different in three weeks time to enable pubs to open?

    This hasn't been addressed at all by the folk making the decisions.

    She didn't speak well and is obviously biased and angry over it.

    The difference is that if the R rate doesn't stabilise in the next three weeks we'll have 150 cases a day.

    If people can't see the difference between a restaurant setting and a pub setting they are being deliberately difficult or just don't understand.

    Food doesn't protect you from Covid but having a meal and drinks in 105 minutes reduces the capacity to drink large volumes.

    Of course people and businesses already open will flout it, but that's no reason to open up more people to risk.

    At the end of the day this is to protect the health service and stop it from becoming overwhelmed.

    With potential forecast of approx 200 cases this week that is too many for our health service.

    After watching the documentary on Covid wards I can't imagine the fear and trauma healthcare workers are experiencing.


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  • #31
    BPKS
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    A total illogical rant that was impartial and nonsensical.

    Shouldn't be allowed    .

    You obviously don't listen to the likes of Matt Cooper and Ciara Kelly a lot when they speak of anything they don't agree with (when they are meant to be the moderator)


  • #32
    BPKS
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    Matthias Narrow Cliff wrote: »
    She didn't speak well and is obviously biased and angry over it.

    The difference is that if the R rate doesn't stabilise in the next three weeks we'll have 150 cases a day.

    If people can't see the difference between a restaurant setting and a pub setting they are being deliberately difficult or just don't understand.

    Food doesn't protect you from Covid but having a meal and drinks in 105 minutes reduces the capacity to drink large volumes.

    Of course people and businesses already open will flout it, but that's no reason to open up more people to risk.

    At the end of the day this is to protect the health service and stop it from becoming overwhelmed.

    With potential forecast of approx 200 cases this week that is too many for our health service.

    After watching the documentary on Covid wards I can't imagine the fear and trauma healthcare workers are experiencing.

    Schools and 3rd level institutes will have to remain closed on the basis of yesterdays decision.

    If the worry is that young people are spreading the virus then keeping hundreds of kids under the age of 18 in the same building for 35 hours a week is not the way to go.


  • #33
    0xzmro3n4y7lb5
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    And now Gilligan and guests are conflating house parties with pubs. You cannot compare the two.

    A house party will contain a circle of friends who will spread to a wider circle in a community.

    But a pub has the potential to create multiple clusters across multiple communities.


  • #34
    generalgerry
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    I normally immediately switch off when I hear Ciara Kelly's voice, but I think I would actually leave it on if Andrea Gilligan was presenting all the time.


  • #35
    BPKS
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    Matthias Narrow Cliff wrote: »
    And now Gilligan and guests are conflating house parties with pubs. You cannot compare the two.

    A house party will contain a circle of friends who will spread to a wider circle in a community.

    But a pub has the potential to create multiple clusters across multiple communities.

    And you are conflating house parties with dinner parties. You cannot compare the two.


  • #36
    0xzmro3n4y7lb5
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    BPKS wrote: »
    And you are conflating house parties with dinner parties. You cannot compare the two.

    A dinner party is 6-10 people around for dinner connected through family or friendship.

    A house party is any number of people connected through family or friendship.

    Pub customers for the most part have no connection.


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  • #37
    BPKS
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    Matthias Narrow Cliff wrote: »
    A dinner party is 6-10 people around for dinner connected through family or friendship.

    A house party is any number of people connected through family or friendship.

    Pub customers for the most part have no connection.

    :D

    You must have been to very exciting house parties in your time


  • #38
    0xzmro3n4y7lb5
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    BPKS wrote: »
    :D

    You must have been to very exciting house parties in your time

    I’ve been to many but people have always been connected through friendships at least or through shared community.

    Now we’re not talking about ‘after parties’ where people follow the crowd.

    Perhaps for a retiree like me the Americanisation of the House Party where it’s some random location arranged through social media is not particularly believable in Ireland.

    And I don’t think we’ve had any cases of a Covid Party where guests deliberately try to contract Covid from someone infected.


  • #39
    [Deleted User]
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    Matthias Narrow Cliff wrote: »
    She didn't speak well and is obviously biased and angry over it.

    The difference is that if the R rate doesn't stabilise in the next three weeks we'll have 150 cases a day.

    If people can't see the difference between a restaurant setting and a pub setting they are being deliberately difficult or just don't understand.

    Food doesn't protect you from Covid but having a meal and drinks in 105 minutes reduces the capacity to drink large volumes.

    Of course people and businesses already open will flout it, but that's no reason to open up more people to risk.

    At the end of the day this is to protect the health service and stop it from becoming overwhelmed.

    With potential forecast of approx 200 cases this week that is too many for our health service.

    After watching the documentary on Covid wards I can't imagine the fear and trauma healthcare workers are experiencing.

    Having an opinion does not make you biased. She is as entitled to her opinion as Ivan Yates is on many of his topics and Ciara Kelly too. You may not agree with Andrea Gilligan today but she was very articulate and clear in her message.
    She didn't trip over one word, no himmming , hawwwing or dithering , no words mixed up or stuttering about in anger. She knew exactly what she wanted to say and spoke with a passion for quite a few minutes, she certainly wasn't shouting! She could give Michael Martin lessons in clear speaking.

    If that was a rant it was a brilliant rant! I don't agree necessarily with pubs being open, I'm not a pub person, but I think its a huge hit to the pub business and feel very sorry indeed for pub owners, particularly small rural pubs.


  • #40
    0xzmro3n4y7lb5
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Having an opinion does not make you biased. She is as entitled to her opinion as Ivan Yates is on many of his topics and Ciara Kelly too. You may not agree with Andrea Gilligan today but she was very articulate and clear in her message.
    She didn't trip over one word, no himmming , hawwwing or dithering , no words mixed up or stuttering about in anger. She knew exactly what she wanted to say and spoke with a passion for quite a few minutes, she certainly wasn't shouting! She could give Michael Martin lessons in clear speaking.

    If that was a rant it was a brilliant rant! I don't agree necessarily with pubs being open, I'm not a pub person, but I think its a huge hit to the pub business and feel very sorry indeed for pub owners, particularly small rural pubs.

    Her family are publicans, that's the definition of bias. She even started by stating she's biased.

    She was angry and thus incoherent because she couldn't understand the logic of not opening pubs. It's very basic.

    I feel sorry for the dead and their families.

    You can rebuild a business, you can't bring someone back to life.


  • #41
    [Deleted User]
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    She was far from incoherent, she was in fact extremely articulate.
    The definition of incoherent is “expressed in an incomprehensible or confusing way “.
    She spoke with great clarity , as I said earlier you might not agree with her opinion , but you need to listen back if you think she was incoherent.

    I’d certainly be happy if Andrea Gillian got a permanent gig.


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  • #42
    0xzmro3n4y7lb5
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    She was far from incoherent, she was in fact extremely articulate.
    The definition of incoherent is “expressed in an incomprehensible or confusing way “.
    She spoke with great clarity , as I said earlier you might not agree with her opinion , but you need to listen back if you think she was incoherent.

    I’d certainly be happy if Andrea Gillian got a permanent gig.

    I was being polite calling her incoherent as I’ll put it down to confusion if she can’t differentiate the risk between 105 minutes of eating with a drink and 105 minutes of drinking.

    I think we have enough voices serving publicans in the media and the Dail.

    Some diversity would be welcome.


  • #43
    [Deleted User]
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    Andrea Gilligan interviews a dietician on the surprising news that 5-a-day isn't sufficient, we should be consuming 7 items of fruits and vegetables per day

    Andrea: So what do you make of this news?
    Dietician: This isn't news, I was on this show talking about this 2 years ago


    ( ဓ д ဓ )


  • #44
    EmmetSpiceland
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Andrea Gilligan interviews a dietician on the surprising news that 5-a-day isn't sufficient, we should be consuming 7 items of fruits and vegetables per day

    Andrea: So what do you make of this news?
    Dietician: This isn't news, I was on this show talking about this 2 years ago

    ( ဓ д ဓ )

    Sure they were talking about the new “star sign” there yesterday, I remember hearing about that about ten years ago when a manager in my place of work got all anxious because she was mad into that “stuff”.

    To be fair, it seems like that “discovery” was brought to the fore recently but it was still “old news”.

    Could see Andrea Gilligan or Susan Keogh being in with a “shout” for Ivan’s seat. I wouldn’t like to see either of them replacing Ciara as I think the lunchtime show has a terrible “format”.

    Can’t stand any show where you have to listen to the “opinions” of the general moron. That seems to be very popular on here, though. Just sayin’.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • #45
    Grolschevik
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Andrea Gilligan interviews a dietician

    I always have to google (can never remember) which of "dietitian" v "nutritionist" is the one with actual qualifications and professional regulation, and which is the one that anyone can claim to be...


  • #46
    [Deleted User]
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    Grolschevik wrote: »
    I always have to google (can never remember) which of "dietitian" v "nutritionist" is the one with actual qualifications and professional regulation, and which is the one that anyone can claim to be...
    Good memory aid might be D=Degree

    Dieticians are formally educated and registered. Roseanna Davison is a nutritionist.


  • #47
    Grolschevik
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Good memory aid might be D=Degree

    Dieticians are formally educated and registered. Roseanna Davison is a nutritionist.

    And 'nutritionist' contains nuts.


  • #48
    Dickie10
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    is Ciara Kelly the Queen of the Karens??


  • #49
    [Deleted User]
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    Dickie10 wrote: »
    is Ciara Kelly the Queen of the Karens??
    Karen is a racist, or at least is racist after her third class of rosé, and either supports Trump or doesn't think he's all that bad. She typically doesnt have a career outside the home, and is not college educated.

    No, not at all.


  • #50
    [Deleted User]
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Karen is a racist, or at least is racist after her third class of rosé, and either supports Trump or doesn't think he's all that bad. She typically doesnt have a career outside the home, and is not college educated.

    No, not at all.


    A 'karen' is just a term for someone who is irrationally angry or upset. Doesn't generally have to fit any other descriptors. :)


  • #51
    [Deleted User]
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    A 'karen' is just a term for someone who is irrationally angry or upset. Doesn't generally have to fit any other descriptors. :)

    Then still the answer is no.


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