La Flamme Rouge **off topic discussion**

dahat wrote: »

If a cyclist used these sub standard lights and happened to be in an accident then could the driver counter claim that the cyclist was using & supplied with inferior equipment for road safety?

In short pass any damages claim to the hsa.

The ones handed out were branded DLRCC the other day and were slightly different (not by much) to the ones the RSA passed out last year. They will come in handy for attaching to my children when out for walks :eek:

But you do raise a valid point, unless the gardai were actually fining people who had substandard lights, then they could be seen to be endorsing these as appropriate PPE. If hit, and it went to court, the motorist legal team would presumably aim for the substandard light (presuming the motorist claimed the cyclist was unable to be seen until the last minute), the cyclist would say well the Gardai handed these out as a presumably suitable/adequate visibility aid. When the cyclist does not receive proper redress, presumably their legal team will turn on the Gardai, who will probably turn on the RSA (or whoever) for providing them with said lights.

This said, collisions with cyclists are quite low, it is a relatively safe form of transport so the chances of an accident happening to involve someone actually using these lights, and then it being serious enough to go further than a bollocking at the side of the road are low but it would be interesting. Particularly if it spurred the RSA into being useful in this regard. The fact that they have already started handing out PPE, means they are more likely to be forced into targetting more resources into adequate PPE rather than no PPE.

I wonder will we see any companies out Mayo direction suddenly ramp up USB rechargeable light production :pac:

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

It's not particularly important but I went for a long walk with the dog in an unfamiliar rural setting meandering through fields, forests, trails etc. and getting half lost. I'd just have liked to have seen an overview of the route I took.

If it is an android phone, you should be able to see where you have been via the google timeline feature I think. If you have never used it before, it is really creepy. A friend told me about it on a trip once, I put it in and google knew where i had been, what transport I was using, quite accurately, often without GPS on. Really unsettling.

magicbastarder wrote: »

that also depends on whether you leave the location setting on. i only ever turn it on when i need it.

It would have been on for strava, so google would have it unless opted out of. It also doesn't need the GPS signal on as I found out, using whatever cellular network and local wifi sources to do a reasonable job of guessing.