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dashoonage · 21-03-2019 9:16am

i never knew Cejudo was a gold medalist...hes never mentioned it like.

Paully D · 21-03-2019 9:32am

Mellor wrote: »

Mercola is a quack, he claims various herbal pills will fight cancer.
But being untested and unapproved doesn't mean that expensive designer steroids will suddenly appear in them.

I agree.

My point would be that using non-approved supplements (and the quantity of them on that table is insane) is simply asking for trouble.

tommyboy26 · 21-03-2019 10:51am

rda V lee and cowboy V al iaquinta

two fights i never new i wanted to see.

some interesting fights coming up in the next few months.

does cody not have a claim to fight for the vacant title? ( i dont think so )

now before everyone jumps down my neck about him been on a 3 fight losing streak. two of them were against TJ and he could claim TJ was juicing.

i dont think he does but the way the ufc has been lately is it beyond the realm of possibility

Tazzimus · 21-03-2019 11:50am

Fancy RDA and Iaquinta for those fights

AlmightyCushion · 21-03-2019 12:13pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

rda V lee and cowboy V al iaquinta

two fights i never new i wanted to see.

some interesting fights coming up in the next few months.

does cody not have a claim to fight for the vacant title? ( i dont think so )

now before everyone jumps down my neck about him been on a 3 fight losing streak. two of them were against TJ and he could claim TJ was juicing.

i dont think he does but the way the ufc has been lately is it beyond the realm of possibility

If it was just the two fights with TJ then he would but he also lost to Pedro Munhoz only a few weeks ago.

VW 1 · 21-03-2019 12:33pm

Cody's issue isnt his ability to fight, it's his ability to stay level headed and stick to a plan. His dismantling of DC (although a while ago now) is an indicator of his talent. Unless he manages to check himself in the octagon he won't have much of a career. His next fight will make or break his career imo.

Useful.Idiot · 21-03-2019 12:55pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

Fancy RDA and Iaquinta for those fights

In RDA's past two fights he has been broken down by two high level wrestlers. How will fighting Lee go any different?

Tazzimus · 21-03-2019 2:23pm

Useful.Idiot wrote: »

In RDA's past two fights he has been broken down by two high level wrestlers. How will fighting Lee go any different?

Lots of leg kicks.

Plus RDA's wrestling is decent as well, he should hopefully do well. Could also be a flash KO, mind. The joys of MMA

peteeeed · 21-03-2019 3:56pm

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xckjoo · 21-03-2019 8:48pm

Just finished listening to Usman on Joe Rogan. Rooting for him but sounds like he has a lot of wear and tear already.

tommyboy26 · 21-03-2019 9:01pm

xckjoo wrote: »

Just finished listening to Usman on Joe Rogan. Rooting for him but sounds like he has a lot of wear and tear already.

yea i thought he came across really well and likable. be good to see him defend against colby but he just had surgery so might be a while before he defends. he needs to do something about those injurys or he will end up like cain

weemcd · 22-03-2019 9:48am

Usman is the kind of person Jon Jones thinks he is.

xckjoo · 22-03-2019 10:42am

tommyboy26 wrote: »

yea i thought he came across really well and likable. be good to see him defend against colby but he just had surgery so might be a while before he defends. he needs to do something about those injurys or he will end up like cain

Ya that's my worry too. Hopefully now that he's champ he'll take some time to get some repair work done. There's only so long you can keep going like that before the wheels come of. Hopefully he has the right people in his corner to tell him that. He deserves a full career after all he's put into it.

weemcd wrote: »

Usman is the kind of person Jon Jones thinks he is.

Not going to lie. Made me laugh

Paully D · 22-03-2019 4:23pm

Luis Pena just missed weight by 3.5lbs.

It’s hardly a surprise, I couldn’t believe he thought he could make 145lbs at the size he’s at.

However, he said he could make 135lbs earlier in the week! :pac:

EagererBeaver · 22-03-2019 6:52pm

Good, but long, profile of Rogan here. A bit of a deconstruction

https://slate.com/culture/2019/03/joe-rogans-podcast-is-an-essential-platform-for-freethinkers-who-hate-the-left.html

DrPhilG · 22-03-2019 7:10pm

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Good, but long, profile of Rogan here. A bit of a deconstruction

https://slate.com/culture/2019/03/joe-rogans-podcast-is-an-essential-platform-for-freethinkers-who-hate-the-left.html

Sorry but a load of biased tripe in my humble opinion. From a leftist website which recently claimed that all white Australians should feel implicated in the New Zealand attacks.

From what I've seen of Rogan's podcasts he is a liberal himself, but has a deep seated disdain for some of the extremes of idiocy on the left. To suggest that he is a far right sympathiser is daft.

Anyway, the whole article is written from a political viewpoint rather than an MMA one so probably has no place here.

EagererBeaver · 22-03-2019 7:17pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

Sorry but a load of biased tripe in my humble opinion. From a leftist website which recently claimed that all white Australians should feel implicated in the New Zealand attacks.

From what I've seen of Rogan's podcasts he is a liberal himself, but has a deep seated disdain for some of the extremes of idiocy on the left. To suggest that he is a far right sympathiser is daft.

Anyway, the whole article is written from a political viewpoint rather than an MMA one so probably has no place here.

Where in the article is he described as a far right sympathiser?

DrPhilG · 22-03-2019 8:59pm

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Where in the article is he described as a far right sympathiser?

It says that his podcast is "an essential platform for those who hate the left". I don't think my paraphrasing was unreasonable.

But as I say, this is becoming a political discussion so I won't be commenting further.

EagererBeaver · 22-03-2019 9:23pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

It says that his podcast is "an essential platform for those who hate the left". I don't think my paraphrasing was unreasonable.

But as I say, this is becoming a political discussion so I won't be commenting further.

Well given that statement has no relevance to your earlier one, I think your paraphrasing was pretty far from reasonable to be honest. The while jist of the article is that Rogan gives nutjobs and twats a platform to ****etalk without either the willingness, intelligence or desire to challenge any of it. Not once is Rogan labelled a "far right sympathiser". In fact, it specifically references his claim to be "left on everything but guns" and describes him as a libertarian. I'm not convinced you actually even read the thing.

As for your noble approach to not discuss further because it's not MMA related, the Alex Jones interview got a few pages to itself in this very thread, so I think you're safe.

Whelo79 · 22-03-2019 11:04pm

What fighters does John Kavanagh currently train who fight in the UFC? I seen a Twitter post from him earlier about missing his first Cat Laughs festival in 12 years as he has a fighter competing in the UFC on June 1st. That's the Gustafsson v Smith card in Sweden.

Would Gunni be making a quick return? It's not Katona as he is going in May. I haven't seen Makwan near SBG in a long time but I guess it could be him?

ASOT · 22-03-2019 11:16pm

Whelo79 wrote: »

What fighters does John Kavanagh currently train who fight in the UFC? I seen a Twitter post from him earlier about missing his first Cat Laughs festival in 12 years as he has a fighter competing in the UFC on June 1st. That's the Gustafsson v Smith card in Sweden.

Would Gunni be making a quick return? It's not Katona as he is going in May. I haven't seen Makwani near SBG in a long time but I guess it could be him?

If I had to guess I'd say Makwan as well as he's defo on the card. But like you said I don't think he's been around much so maybe it could be someone new getting on.

Paully D · 23-03-2019 12:55am

https://twitter.com/mmateamdagestan/status/1109224535927209984?s=21

These lads are always on the ball when it comes to the Russian fighters.

23-03-2019 1:37am

Paully D wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mmateamdagestan/status/1109224535927209984?s=21

These lads are always on the ball when it comes to the Russian fighters.

GSP out of retirement then

Mellor · 23-03-2019 4:46am

EagererBeaver wrote:

The while jist of the article is that Rogan gives nutjobs and twats a platform to ****etalk without either the willingness, intelligence or desire to challenge any of it.

It's true he rarely challenges his guests. But I think the expectation that he should is unfair. He's not a journalist. He isn't bringing these guys on to grill them an there ideas. He's a conversationalist. And a good one imo. He's gets people talking and telling stories, sometimes it's funny, sometimes it's crazy, it's usually interesting. Even when it's horribably wrong.
Like you could tell Joe knew Alex Jones' aliens and nazi rant was bat**** delusional stuff. But he goes along with it for the sake of the show.

EagererBeaver · 23-03-2019 7:09am

Mellor wrote: »

It's true he rarely challenges his guests. But I think the expectation that he should is unfair. He's not a journalist. He isn't bringing these guys on to grill them an there ideas. He's a conversationalist. And a good one imo. He's gets people talking and telling stories, sometimes it's funny, sometimes it's crazy, it's usually interesting. Even when it's horribably wrong.
Like you could tell Joe knew Alex Jones' aliens and nazi rant was bat**** delusional stuff. But he goes along with it for the sake of the show.

The arguement isn't that he's a crap journalist, it's that in his quest for clicks, views and, ultimately, the almighty dollar, he lets people spout garbage and rather than challenge, he simply let's them ramble on in the name of "entertainment" and under the guise of free speech.

Letting Alex Jones and Tim Pool etc spout absolute bluster is highly irresponsible and should be challenged, whether you're a journalist or not, especially if your show and guests repeatedly insist on denigrating the "liberal, leftist, mainstream media".

Mellor · 23-03-2019 8:23am

I understand your position completely. But My opinion simply differs.
His podcast isn't educational or academic. He has no obligation, to me, to fact check guests or cite references in the footnotes. It's fine imo, to let guests ramble in the name of entertainment, as that's all the show is. I personally like the wide variety of fields that feature. But if I feel the nobsense too much, I turn it off.
The onus is on the individual to decide for themselves imo.

There are plenty of podcasts out there to providing critical commentary and challenging ideas. I'm not a fan of the format as it often descends into shouting back and forth garbage.

On the topic of MMA related podcasts. Thousandholds.net is excellent.
Each episode delves into a traditional folkstyle of grappling from a certain part if the world. Very informative, more history than sport. The first episode is focused on Ireland of all places - unexpected choice, but the guy doing it is Irish.

Paully D · 23-03-2019 11:27am

I meant to post this the other day as I didn’t see mention of it in the fight thread (it could well have been there, I briefly checked) but I saw that Tom Breese pulled out of another fight at the very last minute last weekend.

That’s twice in the space of three years he’s done that in London now, and he also pulled out of a fight in November a week beforehand.

I know there’s been rumours of anxiety issues, but does anyone actually know what’s going on?

Rightly or wrongly, I wouldn’t have thought the UFC brass would have taken too kindly to his continual relatively last minute pulling out of fights and for them to keep him on their roster is surprising.

It’s a shame because apart from a split decision loss to Strickland he has looked very good throughout his career to date.

Autecher · 23-03-2019 12:38pm

Paully D wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mmateamdagestan/status/1109224535927209984?s=21

These lads are always on the ball when it comes to the Russian fighters.

Khabib himself posted last month on instagram saying him and the 2 other suspended Russians will all be fighting in September. Imagine if they all fought on the same card!

ASOT · 23-03-2019 4:04pm

Chael P says the UFC are looking at booking Jones v Stipe.

vkus6mt3y8zg2q · 23-03-2019 6:02pm

ASOT wrote: »

Chael P says the UFC are looking at booking Jones v Stipe.

That would be sweet! Prob only fight Miocic would take if DC and Lesnar fight each other.

No real challenges for Jones at Light Heavyweight either at the moment, Johnny Walker after he gets a few more fights may give him a good go though

SureYWouldntYa · 23-03-2019 6:07pm

ASOT wrote: »

Chael P says the UFC are looking at booking Jones v Stipe.

Surprised Jones would take that fight, with all the other less accomplished fighters getting title shots in the weight division above or below I’m surprised he isn’t just waiting for the winner of DC vs Brock should it happen, or the vacant title should DC retire after beating Brock

Much more to lose than gain from that fight imo

vkus6mt3y8zg2q · 23-03-2019 6:20pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Surprised Jones would take that fight, with all the other less accomplished fighters getting title shots in the weight division above or below I’m surprised he isn’t just waiting for the winner of DC vs Brock should it happen, or the vacant title should DC retire after beating Brock

Much more to lose than gain from that fight imo

Big PPV money tho. He's eager to make up for the suspended time he couldn't earn. Says want to fight 4 times this year

Whelo79 · 23-03-2019 6:37pm

An early start tonight, 9 pm early prelims, midnight main card!

tommyboy26 · 23-03-2019 8:31pm

lets be realistic will Brock ever come back? its being nearly 9 months since DC beat stipe and had that pushing fight with brock.

dana says brock hasnt been in contact and will only do so when he is ready to fight. thats fair enough but cant see dc waiting forever

mailburner · 23-03-2019 8:42pm

Whelo79 wrote: »

An early start tonight, 9 pm early prelims, midnight main card!

Jaysus thanks for posting, I'd have missed half of it

EagererBeaver · 23-03-2019 8:50pm

mailburner wrote: »

Jaysus thanks for posting, I'd have missed half of it

Some might have considered that a good thing. Not a great card to be honest.

mailburner · 23-03-2019 9:20pm

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Some might have considered that a good thing. Not a great card to be honest.

Haha so true, looks dire especially the prelims which to me look like some of the worst prelims in quite a while

The initial excitement of an early card just about edges the quality

ASOT · 24-03-2019 10:20am

Cejudo v Moraes for the bantamweight belt, Joe B v Formiga as back up.

That's the end of the flyweight division anyway, TJ getting popped was probably the easiest transition for the division to move up which is fairly mad.

Paully D · 24-03-2019 12:57pm

ASOT wrote: »

Cejudo v Moraes for the bantamweight belt, Joe B v Formiga as back up.

That's the end of the flyweight division anyway, TJ getting popped was probably the easiest transition for the division to move up which is fairly mad.

A real shame, IMO. I far more often than not enjoyed the flyweight fights.

It’s still hard to believe that someone like Mighty Mouse was never a huge star.

What a waste.

xtal191 · 24-03-2019 2:25pm

ASOT wrote: »

Cejudo v Moraes for the bantamweight belt, Joe B v Formiga as back up.

That's the end of the flyweight division anyway, TJ getting popped was probably the easiest transition for the division to move up which is fairly mad.

They did say Joe B v Formiga would be a number 1 contender fight for flyweight even though its a bantamweight fight.

Paully D · 24-03-2019 2:56pm

The UFC average for both strikes landed and absorbed per minute is 3.

Justin Gaethje?

Landed - 8.5
Absorbed - 10.5

:eek::pac:

ASOT · 24-03-2019 4:44pm

xtal191 wrote: »

They did say Joe B v Formiga would be a number 1 contender fight for flyweight even though its a bantamweight fight.

Yeah it doesn't make sense at all, that's why I think the division will officially be killed off then. All over the place it is.

mailburner · 24-03-2019 8:53pm

Paully D wrote: »

The UFC average for both strikes landed and absorbed per minute is 3.

Justin Gaethje?

Landed - 8.5
Absorbed - 10.5

:eek::pac:

That'll be considerably higher after next weekend, just hope he
doesn't get badly hurt

mailburner · 24-03-2019 8:55pm

ASOT wrote: »

Cejudo v Moraes for the bantamweight belt, Joe B v Formiga as back up.

That's the end of the flyweight division anyway, TJ getting popped was probably the easiest transition for the division to move up which is fairly mad.

good fight for moraes, though right now I think he's the best bantamweight fighter out there even with tj in the mix
I think he'll put cejudo away quite easily

ASOT · 24-03-2019 9:06pm

Ali forgetting he's logged into his own account again

https://twitter.com/AliAbdelaziz00/status/1109880279122903040?s=19

mailburner wrote: »

good fight for moraes, though right now I think he's the best bantamweight fighter out there even with tj in the mix
I think he'll put cejudo away quite easily

I think cejudo is a class act and will beat him I'm, it'll be a great fight!

Zero-Cool · 24-03-2019 9:57pm

ASOT wrote: »

Ali forgetting he's logged into his own account again

https://twitter.com/AliAbdelaziz00/status/1109880279122903040?s=19

:pac:
https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1109886346108289024?s=19

Paully D · 25-03-2019 12:55pm

Amirkhani vs Fishgold confirmed for UFC Stockholm.

rob316 · 25-03-2019 10:09pm

Faber confirms he's still in the testing pool and looking to come out of retirement.

Do these guys ever know when to quit. He's 40

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