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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Is this the one up in Ballymount that is my white whale as I've never seen it in the flesh!

    The Japanese have reached Ballymount and the White Whale is no longer.....:(


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It was still there thus summer :)

    Are you sure? I photographed it two years ago, heard it was removed September last year and when I went back this Easter I could not find it.

    Photo from November 2017:
    24857127138_78fdbf33f7_c.jpgBlast from the Past (1) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭Contrails


    Csalem wrote: »
    Are you sure? I photographed it two years ago, heard it was removed September last year and when I went back this Easter I could not find it.

    Photo from November 2017:
    24857127138_78fdbf33f7_c.jpgBlast from the Past (1) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    Drove by that spot today. Tis indeed gone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Beyond Dublin it looks like there is still an odd CIE sign floating about.
    A quick search found this:

    https://goo.gl/maps/kbY3Sgs7xitw3dHr6


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    That pole is now in someone's back garden or in a pub abroad.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A trip back to 2011 this week to see AV 120 on the 16A to Nutgrove. It is seen passing through Drumcondra on Dublin's northside as it heads south. AV 120 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 2000. It was part of an order to operate Airlink services between Dublin City Centre and Dublin Airport. AV 116 to AV 128 were delivered in the special Airlink livery, while AV 129 and AV 130 were delivered in standard Dublin Bus livery. However all of them were delivered as dual-door buses. These were the last dual-door buses delivered until 2012 when the GT class started to arrive. Since then, every double-decker bus delivered to Dublin Bus has been dual-door. The arrival of the GT class in 2012 also heralded the beginning of the end for the AV class. AV 120 itself was withdrawn in 2013, having joined the regular fleet around 2009 when new VG-class buses arrived for the Airlink. And now in September 2019 the last of the 448-strong AV class is about to be withdrawn. The extremely similar AX-class will continue for a while, but the AV holds the distinction of being the first class of low-floor double-decker bus in the Dublin Bus fleet.
    The 16A used to run from Nutgrove on the southside to Dublin Airport on the northside. It was merged with the 16 (Ballinteer to Santry) in 2012 under Network Direct, with the route going from Ballinteer to Dublin Airport.
    Drumcondra, 11/09/2011

    48723842907_42b13703ac_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (192) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is September 1996 and RH 93 is in a bit of a whirl. The bus is seen on Clare Street operating a service on route 7. Although, the destination on the bus is wrong as it is operating inbound from Loughlinstown, and not outbound to it. Also the route did not go "via Custom House Quay". The route connects the city centre with Loughlinstown going via Blackrock, Dun Laoghaire and Sallynoggin. It can trace its roots back to the 19th century tram network. In 2016 Dublin Bus did a revision to the route and services to Cherrywood became route 7 and Loughlinstown became 7a.
    RH 93 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1991 and was withdrawn in 2003. It then moved to the UK where it remained in service until at least 2017.
    The bus is in an all-over ad for Whirlpool appliances. Prior to this the bus was in another all-over ad for JVC.
    Clare Street 21/09/1996

    48761231512_4548b9b725_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (193) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A trip to 2012 this week to see VT 35 on the 116. This is one of the routes that only operates in the peaks, Monday to Friday. Currently the route runs from Whitechurch to Parnell Square, going via Dundrum, Sandyford and Stillorgan. Interestingly, the return journey starts on Leeson Street in the afternoon as it is aimed at returning school children home.
    The route was introduced in May 1999 and over the years it has had a number of variations. For example, back in its early days it separate departures started in Whitechurch, Ballinteer, Clonskea and Sandyford. Three of these operated to Parnell Square (East or West), while two continued onto the northside to Dublin City University. There were five return workings from the city centre, two of which were in the morning after 9am. But by 2012 it was down to the two departures a day as mentioned before.
    VT 35 was part of the second batch of Enviro 500s delivered to Dublin in 2007. 50 members of the class came that year following an initial delivery of 20 in 2005. VT 35 was originally allocated to Broadstone garage . but when the 145 was extended to Heuston Station in 2010, VT 21 to VT 35 moved to Donnybrook to join VT 1 to VT 20 there. Dublin is one of the few cities in the world where the Enviro 500 operates.
    Westmoreland Street, 26/09/2012

    48799801761_ea98489ca3_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (194) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A trip back thirty-six years this week to a very different Dublin Airport, with a slightly unusual bus route.
    KD 314 is seen on the departures road (at what would become Terminal 1 around thirty years in the future) at Dublin Airport. In the background is the car park and an office block. Today in 2019 that view is slightly different as a multi-storey car park has been built on some of that carpark, while the rest of it is the bus and coach area. The 41B of today passes through there, while no bus routes use the departure road. Also behind the office block today is the large Aer Lingus hangar which was built around 1990. That office building was also the Aer Lingus headquarters in 1983 but they subsequently relocated in the 2000s.
    The 41B is an unusual route in some respects. It runs between Dublin City Centre and Rolestown, a small village near the Dublin / Meath border on the road between Swords and Ashbourne. Currently it has about 5 departures during the week in both directions, 4 on a Saturday and 3 on a Sunday. This is a frequency it has broadly maintained since the 1950s. And the departure times have been broadly similar too. However, currently only two buses during the week go via the Airport, whereas a few mored did back in 1983.
    KD 314 was delivered new to Summerhill Garage in 1983 and remained in service until October 2000.
    Finally the ad on the side mentions "Paddy & red". This of course refers to Paddy's Whiskey and red lemonade. 01/10/1983

    48838070866_0a1c135ee8_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (195) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is a trip back to 2012 to see RV 604 in its final days with Dublin Bus. The bus had been delivered exactly 13 years previously in October 1999. It was withdrawn in November 2012, a month after this photograph was taken and a month before the final Olympian was withdrawn. The bus went on to have a second career in Scotland, and was observed in service around Perth (Scotland) in 2018.
    The bus is seen here on route 150. The destination is displaying "Willington", although the more usual display was "Rossmore". The 150 commenced in 1994 under the City Imp brand and replaced route 50. City Imp saw mini-buses replacing more usual buses on routes, but operating to a higher frequency. Over time these routes became more popular and larger buses were placed on them until they all became part of the standard Dublin bus network with double-decker buses operating them.
    Willington was the terminus of the 50 before the 150 came along and was extended to Rossmore. The current 150 terminus on Orwell Road in Rossmore is not far from Willington Roundabout.
    Fleet Street was a city centre terminus for many different bus routes over the years. However, with the coming of the Luas Cross City around 2016, terminating buses had to be moved and only through routes stop here now to drop passengers off. The 150 terminus did not move too far, only going to Hawkins Street around the corner. 10/10/2012

    48876686617_214fe71d6f_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (196) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 1998 and D 635 is going on tour. Dublin Bus started the open-tour in 1988. The original tour fleet was made up of Leyland Atlanteans which were approaching the end of their service life. This pattern has continued to this day. The Atlanteans were later joined by Vanhools like D635 here and then these started to be replaced by Olympians from around 2000 on. Next came the ALX 400s in the form of the AV and AX classes and most recently the Enviro 400 EVs. Currently in 2019 the Dublin Bus tour fleet is entirely composed of low-floor, accessible buses.
    The tour has always been a commercial operation by Dublin Bus and in 2017 it rebranded the city tour as DoDublin, with an all-over green livery. When it started in 1988 it was the only hop-on, hop-off tour in Dublin, but in 2019 there is stiff competition from The Big Bus Company and City Sightseeing, along with a number of niche tours.
    D 635 had a varied career. It was delivered new to Dublin in 1975 and operated out of Clontarf and Summerhill garages. Around 1998 it joined the tour fleet. Normally that would be the end of a bus's career but by 2002 it had been converted for tree-lopper duties. In this role it toured the network, cutting down branches that could cause damage to buses. It finally retired from Dublin Bus in 2003, and passed into private hands.
    St. Stephen's Green 15/10/1998

    48914280628_ed00c62b2c_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (197) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Csalem wrote: »
    tree-lopper duties.

    Would there have many on the tree cutting or just the one doing the rounds at a time?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Would there have many on the tree cutting or just the one doing the rounds at a time?

    They only use one bus.

    It's an AV now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,925 ✭✭✭GM228


    They only use one bus.

    It's an AV now.

    144 if I'm not mistaken.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    RH 23 replaced D 635:
    15322805972_174cb2fc8b_c.jpgRH 23 Milltown 22/09/14 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    AV 144 replaced RH 23 and is still in use:
    18963188230_27b72ddc21_c.jpgAV 144 Swords Road 25/06/15 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,925 ✭✭✭GM228


    Csalem wrote: »
    RH 23 replaced D 635:
    15322805972_174cb2fc8b_c.jpgRH 23 Milltown 22/09/14 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    AV 144 replaced RH 23 and is still in use:
    18963188230_27b72ddc21_c.jpgAV 144 Swords Road 25/06/15 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    Do regular drivers drive these or contractors?

    Assume contractors do the cutting or do DB have dedicated staff?

    Did BE ever have a tree cutter, can't recall one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    GM228 wrote: »
    Do regular drivers drive these or contractors?

    Assume contractors do the cutting or do DB have dedicated staff?

    Did BE ever have a tree cutter, can't recall one.

    An old pal of mine did the tree cutting in DB in the early 00's, iirc he was working directly for DB but I could be wrong


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    I am not sure how it operates but I assume one of the tree-cutter team or a mechanic drives the bus rather than a regular driver.

    I don't think Bus Eireann every had one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 114 ✭✭Joker2019


    GM228 wrote: »
    Do regular drivers drive these or contractors?

    Assume contractors do the cutting or do DB have dedicated staff?

    Did BE ever have a tree cutter, can't recall one.

    I wonder how the GAI routes manage for tree cutting on stretches of road only served by them. Do DB do it for the NTA. I know for example DB are in charge of stop maintenance for all bus stop served by DB and GAI under an NTA contract. Is there a similar agreement in place for tree cutting I wonder?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Joker2019 wrote: »
    I wonder how the GAI routes manage for tree cutting on stretches of road only served by them. Do DB do it for the NTA. I know for example DB are in charge of stop maintenance for all bus stop served by DB and GAI under an NTA contract. Is there a similar agreement in place for tree cutting I wonder?

    Yes, Dublin Bus cut the trees on behalf of the NTA.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 2008 and RV 429 is parked on Marlborough Street between duties on the 29A. Since November 2012 this route has run from the city centre to Baldoyle via Raheny and Donaghmede. Prior to that it terminated at Newgrove, or Newgrove Cross. Newrgove Cross was what was shown initially on the bus scrolls, and refers to a place near Donaghmede Roundabout, When the bus destinations shifted from scrolls to dot-matrix displays and then LED dispplays, Newgrove Cross got shortened to just Newgrove.
    Unlike most other bus routes in Dublin, the 29A does not trace its existence back to the trams but instead the railways. It was operated by the Great Northern Railway (Ireland) and was only absorbed into the rest of the city network when the railway ceased to exist in 1958 and was taken over by CIE. The most interesting part of the route is the diversion it takes around All Saint's Road in Raheny.
    RV 429 was delivered new to Clontarf Garage in 1998. It was sold to Ensignbus in the UK in 2009. It was still in operation with Imperial Coaches in Slough in 2018.
    This part of Marlborough Street was used for many years as a lay-over for buses but since December 2017 it has been the Marlborough tram stop on the Luas Green Line. 23/10/2008

    48953701187_ccca9f84a1_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (198) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week we are going back a mere two years to 2017 (which is also twenty-one months after Throwback Thursday started). WV 52 is seen at the terminus of the 44B in Glencullen. This is one of the more remote terminus on the Dublin Bus network and the 44B is one of the more infrequent routes. It runs between here and Dundrum, passing the famous Johnnie Fox's Pub on the way. The route dates back to the 1930s when it used to run to the City Centre and was more frequent at the weekends as it brought walkers to the Dublin Mountains. In 2009 it was cut back to Dundrum, and only had a service in the morning peak and the afternoons. There was a Saturday only service to Ranelagh but it too was dropped in 2012.
    The route is one of the most scenic in Dublin, as it climbs up out of Dundrum to Glencullen, providing great views over the city and has been known to the bus engine under some strain.
    WV 52 was delivered to Dublin Bus in 2001 and was the last member of the WV Class, and therefore the last single-decker delivered to Dublin Bus until the WS Class arrived in 2017. Due to the nature of the route, only single-deck buses can be used. Three WVs were kept in service for the 44B while the rest of the Dublin Bus fleet was double-decker. WV 50 was the first to go in early 2017 and WV 51 and WV 52 were replaced by two Wright Streetlites (WS 1 and WS 2) which were purchased specifically to operate the 44B. The first one went into service on the 1st December 2017 and the WVs were then withdrawn from service. WV 52 was the only one to receive an LED destination. 31/10/2017

    48992461816_db7d193f77_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (199) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    That turn about was a pain when dumb a holes would park and go off walking...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    So we have made it to the two hundredth Throwback Thursday and although there are over 50 years between these buses, the photograph was only taken in 2016.SG 30 is seen in Dalkey at the 8 terminus alongside RA 30. The 8 bus route could trace its origins back to the Dublin tram network and for most of its existence connected Dalkey with the City Centre, going via Dun Laoghaire and Blackrock. With the introduction of DART rail services in the mid-1980s, passengers numbers began to drop as the route paralleled the railway line. Dublin Bus cancelled the route in 2001, giving passengers one day's notice, but a successful challenge in the European courts saw the route return in 2005. However it was rerouted slightly, being taken out fo Dun Laoghaire and serving Mounttown Road instead. However it was a short-term return and in 2016 Dublin Bus along with the NTA reorganised the routes around Dun Laoghaire. The 8 was finally withdrawn this time, replaced in part by an extended 111.
    SG 30 is seen with the final departure back to Dublin from Dalkey. This bus was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 2014 and is one of over 650 of the type delivered to the city between 2014 and 2019. The buses were built by Wrights in Ballymena, a company which had some difficulty in 2019, but was later taken over.
    Preserved RA 30 shadowed the last 8 from Dublin to mark the end of an era. This bus was delivered new to Donnybrook in 1959 before transferring to Clontarf in 1976. It was withdrawn in early 1982 and entered preservation.
    On a final note it is no coincidence that SG 30 was out for the last trip with RA 30. RA 30 used to be regular on the 8 when it was in Donnybrook.
    Dalkey, 11/11/2016

    49029803143_1a3a7b7428_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (200) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is November 1992 and RH 144 is already five months old when it is seen on Marine Road in Dun Laoghaire. The bus was one of twenty-eight Leyland Olympians delivered to Dublin Bus that year. The first Olympian arrived in 1990 and the final one (RV 620) came in 1999. As a contrast, in September 2014 Dublin Bus saw entry into service of SG1 and by the end of 2019 over 600 were in service in Dublin. RH 144 spent all its working life in Donnybrook before being withdrawn in 2006. It was subsequently sold to Cambridge City Council where it became a playbus, though by 2018 it was static and fixed to one school in the city.
    The 46A is probably the most famous bus route in Dublin. Until 2010 it only ran as far as the city centre from Dun Laoghaire, but following the removal of the 10 during Network Direct, it was extended to the Phoenix Park. For most of the day it runs every 7 minutes, and at its worse it goes every 15 mins.
    The area behind the bus was completely changed with the building of the Pavilion Theatre, along with apartments, in 2000. 15/11/1992

    49066248297_abc585a28b_c.jpgRH 144 Dun Laoghaire 15 11 1992 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A jaunt back to 1985 and D 360 on Eden Quay at the terminus of route 6. This route connected the city centre with the Blackrock area. For a while there was also a 6A that was extended to Sandyford Industrial Estate in 1980. These routes were part of a number of routes that served the Rock Road, along with the 5, 7, 7A and 8. In 1987, after Dublin Bus was formed, the 6A was removed from the network, followed by the 6 in 1989. In 2019 the main routes to Blackrock from the city centre are the 4, 7 and 7A.
    D 360 had a varied career. It was delivered new to Dublin in 1970. It was withdrawn from regular service in 1987 and became the tree lopper. This work involved it losing its roof so trees along bus routes could be trimmed from the top deck. It lasted in this role a few months when it became a special events bus and was used on occasions such as Stephen Roche's return following his win of the Tour de France. It was eventually withdrawn from the fleet at the end of 1993. 20/11/1985

    49101689297_924468406e_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (202) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    Hard to think it is 30 years since the 6 was abolished.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I remember been on that as an open topper....

    Wow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week we are going back to 1985 to see D 253 on Abbey Street with the 34A. This route started in 1962, eight years after the 34, and connected the city centre with Finglas. Around a decade after this picture was taken the 34A and the 34 morphed into the City Imp route 134 and then in the 2000s that route merged with the 83. The number may be gone, but the legacy lives on, even though it has been altered over the years.
    D 253 was delivered new to Dublin in 1969 and was withdrawn in October 1986.
    Middle Abbey Street was a major bus terminus for decades. In the background can be seen another bus on the 37. At one point in the mid-1990s the 39 had departures every five minutes from here. But with the coming of the Luas in the early-2000s this part of Abbey Street lost all bus services.
    28/11/1985

    49138156588_c2eebafdc7_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (203) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Csalem


    With just twenty-days to Christmas in 1988 (and 2019) D 756 is getting in the festive spirit on Westmoreland Street. Launched just two days previously, the bus was used on a special shuttle service between the city centre and Dublin Zoo. The interior was also decorated with Christmas lights hanging from the roof both upstairs and downstairs. Passengers paid a special fare which also included a visit to Santa at the zoo. The shuttle service ran for just under three weeks before finishing on December 21st.
    D 756 was delivered new to Dublin in 1975 and was withdrawn in 1993. It had a colourful career, literally, as to prior to being repainted into the "Dublin Zoo Santa Bus" livery it was in an all-over ad for Philips Philishave. Early in 1989 it was repainted into an all-over ad looking for blood donors.
    It is interesting to note the bus in the background emerging from Fleet Street onto Westmoreland Street. This part of Fleet Street used to be home to a number of routes and was two-way. Now in 2019 it is one of the more busier parts of Temple Bar and although traffic can still access the street, they can only do so one-way, from Westmoreland Street. No bus routes serve here anymore.
    Finally D 756 is parked outside what was one of the landmarks of Dublin - Bewley's Cafe. Their first presence on the street was in 1896 but the company contracted in the early-2000s and this branch closed down. It then became a Starbucks and is currently a TGI Friday's. There has been a lot of change in the last thirty-one years. 05/12/1988

    49174140223_802ccdf1b1_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (204) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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