President Donald Trump - Formal Impeachment Inquiry Announced

notobtuse wrote: »

Yes, Stone deserves some jail time but nine years is too excessive, though. As does Tony Podesta, Hillary Clinton, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, John Brennan, and James Clapper for their illegal activities. Right?

Ah that's not fair, Andy said he was sorry. You can't prosecute people if they say they're sorry.

https://nypost.com/2020/01/02/andrew-mccabe-said-he-lied-to-fbi-about-wall-street-journal-leak/

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

There is no talking to most liberals on issues related to Trump. It's a waste of time. They're immune to the truth.

What nonsense, you have been engaged with endlessly and have rarely dealt with any of the challenging questions put to you that require you to do some objective thinking and honest responding. The problem for Trump supporters is your guy makes it near impossible to sound credible, you ask for 'truth', yet Trump lies endlessly, you laud his trade wars without admitting it's resulted in socialist style bailouts, the economy is going well but you a blind eye to the staggering deficit he is running up, he's building the wall and raiding the Pentagon to fund it, the contradictions are blindingly obvious and endless, it goes on and on.

I only know a couple of Trump supporters, and the literally are unable to articulate why they support him outside of a few soundbites which mean little, MAGA, drian the swamp,etc. They cant say it but they like him as he allows them to be open about their dislike for civil discourse, intelligent debate, those uppity n!ggers, minorities, latino, intelligent women, gays, black babies, etc.

That is the guy you bat for.

notobtuse wrote: »

Because Trump can be a wuss at times. But there’s still hope if democrats keep pushing.

So dems should push for arrests/conviction but Reps can cry foul (after a trial/conviction) and scream "UNFAIR" when the sentence is too long in their opinion?

Stallingrad wrote: »

What nonsense, you have been engaged with endlessly and have rarely dealt with any of the challenging questions put to you that require you to do some objective thinking and honest responding. The problem for Trump supporters is your guy makes it near impossible to sound credible, you ask for 'truth', yet Trump lies endlessly, you laud his trade wars without admitting it's resulted in socialist style bailouts, the economy is going well but you a blind eye to the staggering deficit he is running up, he's building the wall and raiding the Pentagon to fund it, the contradictions are blindingly obvious and endless, it goes on and on.

I only know a couple of Trump supporters, and the literally are unable to articulate why they support him outside of a few soundbites which mean little, MAGA, drian the swamp,etc. They cant say it but they like him as he allows them to be open about their dislike for civil discourse, intelligent debate, those uppity n!ggers, minorities, latino, intelligent women, gays, black babies, etc.

That is the guy you bat for.

Obama started the staggering deficits he doubled the national debt. Trump is not gonna over spend 40 trillion no matter how much he tries. And Trump has done more for the uppity minorities than any president in history - by giving them employment in record numbers. You lefties are the ones blinded to Trumps rather brilliant achievements to date because you don’t like his style basically. Obama was all style and no substance. He doubled the national debt spending more than all the 43 presidents before him combined. Let that sink in.

Also Roger Stone is an absolute gentleman. His arrest and persecution is nothing but sour grapes by the Democratic controlled State Dept and FBI. Sending an armed swat team to arrest him in a dawn raid while also tipping off the clown news network to the raid says it all. The deep state are scum.

pearcider wrote: »

Obama started the staggering deficits he doubled the national debt. Trump is not gonna over spend 40 trillion no matter how much he tries. And Trump has done more for the uppity minorities than any president in history - by giving them employment in record numbers. You lefties are the ones blinded to Trumps rather brilliant achievements to date because you don’t like his style basically. Obama was all style and no substance. He doubled the national debt spending more than all the 43 presidents before him combined. Let that sink in.

I think Lincoln and Trueman might have something to say about that ridiculous claim.

Also Roger Stone is a criminal. His arrest and persecution is nothing but sour grapes by the Democratic controlled State Dept and FBI. Sending an armed swat team to arrest him in a dawn raid while also tipping off the clown news network to the raid says it all. The deep state are scum.

Fixed that for you. He was arrested, charged, tried in court and found guilty. I get it, you Trump fans hate to see decisions go against your golden boys but this (along with Trumps impeachment) is a fact.

pearcider wrote: »

Sorry this coming from the poster who supported the Mullahs in Iran in a thread recently even suggesting the US was to blame for shooting down the airliner over Tehran. You have zero credibility to any sane observer.

1, do you think Trump is a better president and did more for minorities than Lincoln or Trueman?

2, please show evidence that I "supported the Mullahs"

3, Please show me the post where I suggested "the US was to blame for shooting down the airliner over Tehran."

Also Roger Stone was the victim of the same coup attempt and witch hunt of Trump instigated by the errand boys of the corrupt Washington DC elite typified by creeps like Strok and Mueller. Anti American scum who still can’t accept that the wicked witch of the west Hilary Clinton lost the election because she was a soulless globalist robot with less empathy than Leo varadkar.

So his trial and conviction are wrong? The trial that took place in court with witnesses and evidence? Can you show why this is a wrongful conviction or are you just pìssed off because yet ANOTHER one of Trumps "best people" has been found guilty and faces jail time?

Drain the swamp indeed.

notobtuse wrote: »

Not at all. It’s an age-old political tradition that denotes something about a politician that people can easily remember and correlate. Examples... Honest Abe, The Iron Lady, Tricky Dick, Teflon Tony, The British Bulldog, The Governator… And it’s quite effective. You should know this.

If nothing else, Trump is a great marketer.

Whatever keeps.you hard I suppose.

Care to reply to the rest of the post that you half quoted?

Trump getting worried

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1228023660457480194?s=09

notobtuse wrote: »

• Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
• More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
• Aided inn the creation more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
• Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
• Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
• New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
• Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
• African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
• Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
• Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
• Veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
• Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
• The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.
• Committed to VOCATIONAL education.
• 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
• Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
• Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
• As a result of the tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
• Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
• Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
• Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
• Record number of regulations eliminated.
• Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
• Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
• Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
• Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
• We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
• Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
• Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
• Aided in reducing high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
• Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
• Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
• United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
• Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
• Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
• Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
• NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
• Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
• Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
• Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
• Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
• Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
• Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
• Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
• Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
• Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
• Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
• Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
• Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
• Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
• Began BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

And that was in just 3 years with democrats in the House spending all their time investigating and impeaching Trump. Dear gawd, just think how long the list will be after 8 years!!!!!

LMAO

Copied and pasted from here

https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/

And strangely edited to make it look as if you wrote it yourself!!! :pac:

Points 3, 14, 16, 20, 27, 31 & 53.

You also missed a few us/we/our/I etc.

That's gotta be a new low for a Trumper

notobtuse wrote: »

Why sure I got it from the source. And I did change a few things because I didn't want you to think I did all that. :P

Nah sorry, you tried to pass it off as your own :pac:

And if you think everything on that list is a positive then you are seriously deluded.

notobtuse wrote: »

Dang you're good. You figured out all by yourself I wasn't able to research all that AND type it all up in less than three minutes. :pac:

Why not just say "copied from here" and link to site?

Why the strange edit of words to make it look like you had written it?

Weird behaviour imo.