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Grueller · 09-11-2019 10:10pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Right well we'll throw it out there so, who else thinks the heifer had spina bifida.

Looks like you could lay a level on her back to me, in both photos. Smasher of an animal.

older by the day · 09-11-2019 10:20pm

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I could be way out but circa €1.50 a kilo? Perhaps less if very hard, extreme types, they might make a bit more but you can buy great continental stores at €2 a kilo atm here in the West.

I'd be happy with 750, would they eat 200 to March and would I get a thousand for unfinished bullocks

Albert Johnson · 09-11-2019 10:49pm

older by the day wrote: »

I'd be happy with 750, would they eat 200 to March and would I get a thousand for unfinished bullocks

I'm sure Bass could give us a more comprehensive breakdown of costs rather than the back of a fag packet figures I work off. We'll say there's 120 days until Patrick's day, would €1.50 a day in costs be excessive? That's €180 so there might not be much in it and try to have some renumeration for rooting at them all winter. That's assuming that €750 a piece is achievable atm, there not real choice stock currently.

Limestone Cowboy · 10-11-2019 12:36am

Grueller wrote: »

Looks like you could lay a level on her back to me, in both photos. Smasher of an animal.

U+ 485kg is all that matters really. If she had 3 legs and 2 heads it's still all that would matter.

Grueller · 10-11-2019 7:35am

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

U+ 485kg is all that matters really. If she had 3 legs and 2 heads it's still all that would matter.

Correct and true but it is much nicer to look at a good one like her.

patsy_mccabe · 10-11-2019 10:07am

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

U+ 485kg is all that matters really. If she had 3 legs and 2 heads it's still all that would matter.

If she had 2 heads, would 2 tags do, or would you have to order 4?

MIKEKC · 10-11-2019 12:18pm

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I'm sure Bass could give us a more comprehensive breakdown of costs rather than the back of a fag packet figures I work off. We'll say there's 120 days until Patrick's day, would €1.50 a day in costs be excessive? That's €180 so there might not be much in it and try to have some renumeration for rooting at them all winter. That's assuming that €750 a piece is achievable atm, there not real choice stock currently.

About right I would think

Genghis Cant · 10-11-2019 12:57pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

U+ 485kg is all that matters really.

If we're to assume she went under 30 mths as a maiden heifer she was an absolute monster.
385kgs carcass wgt is a decent heifer. But 485kgs , holy jaysus. She was some liveweight to kill out at that and U+ as well. A freak of a heifer. They don't come like her often.

Lady Haywire · 10-11-2019 1:12pm

Genghis Cant wrote: »

If we're to assume she went under 30 mths as a maiden heifer she was an absolute monster.
385kgs carcass wgt is a decent heifer. But 485kgs , holy jaysus. She was some liveweight to kill out at that and U+ as well. A freak of a heifer. They don't come like her often.

Born 12/5/17, was killed last week so that's be about 29 1/2 months or just over it.

memorystick · 10-11-2019 1:15pm

Bought a mixed batch of bulls yesterday. AA HR SM and LM. Not big stock between 220 and 270. €500 average. Might be a little on the dear side but. Can’t get to mart at the minute. They should turn into profit.

patsy_mccabe · 10-11-2019 1:18pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Born 12/5/17, was killed last week so that's be about 29 1/2 months or just over it.

€1730 you said. Still, poor money for what she was.

Lady Haywire · 10-11-2019 1:35pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€1730 you said. Still, poor money for what she was.

I sold her at 1070 I think (not 100% sure, could have been 1020) back in summer 18 as a yearling. Considering the feeding etc she'd have gotten I dunno if she'd leave much after her.

Cavanjack · 10-11-2019 2:47pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

I sold her at 1070 I think (not 100% sure, could have been 1020) back in summer 18 as a yearling. Considering the feeding etc she'd have gotten I dunno if she'd leave much after her.

You have any idea what her fat score was?

Lady Haywire · 10-11-2019 2:54pm

Cavanjack wrote: »

You have any idea what her fat score was?

No but can find out. She was in from August being fed to get it up anyway as culards can be lean.

Robson99 · 10-11-2019 3:49pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€1730 you said. Still, poor money for what she was.

Exactly.
Just looking back at a couple of big heifers here over last few years
465 kg E- 3= € 2,190 25 months
510 kg E- 3- € 2,400 28 months
515 kg U+ 3+ € 2,100 23 months

Don't think I will see a heifer break 2k again for a long time...

Albert Johnson · 10-11-2019 3:55pm

memorystick wrote: »

Bought a mixed batch of bulls yesterday. AA HR SM and LM. Not big stock between 220 and 270. €500 average. Might be a little on the dear side but. Can’t get to mart at the minute. They should turn into profit.

Suckler bred I assume? There standing €2 a kilo average which isn't savage value imo although I'm assuming your saving on commission and possibly haulage. It's hard to say without seeing the stock in the flesh but I'd consider them average value with the current trade. Will you keep through to finish? If so there long keep stock and hopefully they'll be better times ahead before there ready for the knife.

Cavanjack · 10-11-2019 6:23pm

Robson99 wrote: »

Exactly.
Just looking back at a couple of big heifers here over last few years
465 kg E- 3= € 2,190 25 months
510 kg E- 3- € 2,400 28 months
515 kg U+ 3+ € 2,100 23 months

Don't think I will see a heifer break 2k again for a long time...

God be with the days!!! Would it take a tonne of meal to get them muscly heifers into those fat scores? Are you still feeding those type?

Robson99 · 10-11-2019 8:17pm

Cavanjack wrote: »

God be with the days!!! Would it take a tonne of meal to get them muscly heifers into those fat scores? Are you still feeding those type?

Ya they would each had eaten a ton with the 3- one probably 1.5 ton. Could have stayed feeding her. Serious heifer.
Aah they were exception to the norm. Try to average around 400 - 410.
Heaviest this autumn was 470 kg at €1800
Harder and harder to get those kind of heifers
Then you get kicked up the hole with weight cuts when you have a right one
How could you kill those at 380 kg carcass or 420kg for that matter

Base price · 10-11-2019 9:03pm

Cavanjack wrote: »

God be with the days!!! Would it take a tonne of meal to get them muscly heifers into those fat scores? Are you still feeding those type?

I had a pbr BA heifer that wasn't suitable for breeding and she killed out at 561kgs E-3= under 30 months. She got a couple of kilos of meal (oats/barley/ground maize meal + minerals) on grass during her second Summer and I upped it to 5kgs per day for the last month.
BTW that was in 2008 and she got €3.36/kg.

memorystick · 10-11-2019 9:13pm

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Suckler bred I assume? There standing €2 a kilo average which isn't savage value imo although I'm assuming your saving on commission and possibly haulage. It's hard to say without seeing the stock in the flesh but I'd consider them average value with the current trade. Will you keep through to finish? If so there long keep stock and hopefully they'll be better times ahead before there ready for the knife.

You’re right. Will keep until finished. Going back buying myself next summer. It’s still a cheap way of stocking land. Light cattle do well with me. You wouldn’t finish cattle on grass alone where I am.

Was talking to a lad yesterday and he said Roscrea was a great trade last week. 450kgs for €1150. Good cattle making good money. But that’s always the case.

Robson99 · 10-11-2019 9:30pm

Base price wrote: »

I had a pbr BA heifer that wasn't suitable for breeding and she killed out at 561kgs E-3= under 30 months. She got a couple of kilos of meal (oats/barley/ground maize meal + minerals) on grass during her second Summer and I upped it to 5kgs per day for the last month.
BTW that was in 2008 and she got €3.36/kg.

Serious weight

Base price · 10-11-2019 10:09pm

Robson99 wrote: »

Serious weight

Her older maternal sister who reared five calves killed out at 668 kgs U+3+ on the same day.

Anyway that was in 2008 when I quit keeping sucklers due to their costs be it pbr's or commercials.

grassroot1 · 11-11-2019 3:42pm

Base price wrote: »

Her older maternal sister who reared five calves killed out at 668 kgs U+3+ on the same day.

Anyway that was in 2008 when I quit keeping sucklers due to their costs be it pbr's or commercials.

what about shorthorns?

Base price · 11-11-2019 4:33pm

grassroot1 wrote: »

what about shorthorns?

I bought the 2 pbr heifers last year and the three cross bred calves this year. I have them as a hobby.

grassroot1 · 11-11-2019 5:06pm

Base price wrote: »

I bought the 2 pbr heifers last year and the three cross bred calves this year. I have them as a hobby.

That's how it starts!!!

Reggie. · 11-11-2019 9:03pm

grassroot1 wrote: »

That's how it starts!!!

Slippery slope

Albert Johnson · 11-11-2019 9:14pm

memorystick wrote: »

You’re right. Will keep until finished. Going back buying myself next summer. It’s still a cheap way of stocking land. Light cattle do well with me. You wouldn’t finish cattle on grass alone where I am.

Was talking to a lad yesterday and he said Roscrea was a great trade last week. 450kgs for €1150. Good cattle making good money. But that’s always the case.

Buying yourself is the quickest way to learn what's value for your system imo, however this isn't always practical depending on your circumstances. If your in an area that facilitates early turnout then you won't find that coming and those sort of stock should be ready to hit the ground running over next summer.

Those bullocks in Roscrea must have been top class given the current trade as I can't remember the last bullocks I saw making €2.55 a kilo. I've seen belters of store's those weight's and heavier making circa €2 a kilo all back end with €2.30 a kilo buying the very best of cattle.

memorystick · 12-11-2019 12:13am

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Buying yourself is the quickest way to learn what's value for your system imo, however this isn't always practical depending on your circumstances. If your in an area that facilitates early turnout then you won't find that coming and those sort of stock should be ready to hit the ground running over next summer.

Those bullocks in Roscrea must have been top class given the current trade as I can't remember the last bullocks I saw making €2.55 a kilo. I've seen belters of store's those weight's and heavier making circa €2 a kilo all back end with €2.30 a kilo buying the very best of cattle.

I used to buy years ago but life has changed. Every Saturday in Ballinakill. Grand oul spot. Marts are time consuming if you don’t get anything. Going to buy a trailer for tractor and go between Ballinakill and Roscrea. I’ll be better organised next summer. It’s fair disheartening at the moment.

Albert Johnson · 12-11-2019 12:21am

memorystick wrote: »

I used to buy years ago but life has changed. Every Saturday in Ballinakill. Grand oul spot. Marts are time consuming if you don’t get anything. Going to buy a trailer for tractor and go between Ballinakill and Roscrea. I’ll be better organised next summer. It’s fair disheartening at the moment.

I understand that and it's impossible to have time for everything especially if you have off farm employment and family commitments to content with as well. I'm lucky in that I work in a mart environment a few days a week and can afford to spend some of my free time in them as necessary but this isn't the case for everyone. I'm always looking to be more organized in future and there's always room for improvement at every stage. The whole job is very sick atm and I'm pissed off with it all but I always am facing into the winter. You won't find the longer days coming around and the year starts to lift again, at least that's what I keep telling myself.

Limestone Cowboy · 12-11-2019 12:22am

Sold a little yellow ch bull calf today born the 17th of june. 255kg €810

Limestone Cowboy · 12-11-2019 12:25am

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Sold a little yellow ch bull calf today born the 17th of june. 255kg €810

Pic.

Mac Taylor · 12-11-2019 12:27am

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Sold a little yellow ch bull calf today born the 17th of june. 255kg €810

Jeez, that’s poor money:D:D. He must have been a nice one.

Limestone Cowboy · 12-11-2019 12:27am

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Jeez, that’s poor money:D:D. He must have been a nice one.

Gave him away!

CloughCasey1 · 12-11-2019 1:03am

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Gave him away!

You'll soon have the dairy boys/girls getting into the sucklers at those prices.

Bass Reeves · 12-11-2019 2:26am

memorystick wrote: »

I used to buy years ago but life has changed. Every Saturday in Ballinakill. Grand oul spot. Marts are time consuming if you don’t get anything. Going to buy a trailer for tractor and go between Ballinakill and Roscrea. I’ll be better organised next summer. It’s fair disheartening at the moment.

If you are buying forget about the expense of transport. If you buy numbers it cheaper to get them delivers than ar5eing around with a tractor. Last year bought 14 stores 50 miles away cost cost 200 to get to the farm he bought them specially. This year I bought a bunch of 6 cost 80 euro( added to a load) and I bought 22 together and it cost 200 ( as it was a full load). If I end up with 3-4 if Icannot find a victim I go with the RAV and 8X5 box.

john mayo 10 · 12-11-2019 3:10am

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Pic.

Lovely animal. Is he out of that saler beside him

Limestone Cowboy · 12-11-2019 12:18pm

john mayo 10 wrote: »

Lovely animal. Is he out of that saler beside him

No he's out of a lim cow.

patsy_mccabe · 12-11-2019 12:28pm

There's deffo nearly €100 diff in the same weight for char v's lim weanlings.

Limestone Cowboy · 12-11-2019 12:47pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

There's deffo nearly €100 diff in the same weight for char v's lim weanlings.

A lot of lims don't carry the weight when they are finished compared to charolais.

Sugarbowl · 12-11-2019 2:44pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Sold a little yellow ch bull calf today born the 17th of june. 255kg €810

How do you wean them off the cow so young? I find those at that age, the mother still has milk...

DukeCaboom · 12-11-2019 10:39pm

Kanturk today. 9 together, pointy black hereford bullocks 270kg €600.
Two elderly gentleman bidding against each other. Best price I seen this back end.

TooOldBoots · 12-11-2019 10:52pm

DukeCaboom wrote: »

Kanturk today. 9 together, pointy black hereford bullocks 270kg €600.
Two elderly gentleman bidding against each other. Best price I seen this back end.

Must be the pension dollars.

patsy_mccabe · 12-11-2019 11:10pm

Older generation have a grá for the whiteheads. Easily kept and grand quiet cattle.

CloughCasey1 · 13-11-2019 12:13am

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Older generation have a grá for the whiteheads. Easily kept and grand quiet cattle.

Excuse me...who ya calling old:eek:
Bought 5 today 500kg approx for €890

Reggie. · 13-11-2019 12:21am

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Excuse me...who ya calling old:eek:
Bought 5 today 500kg approx for €890

Obviously hes calling you "auld"

Base price · 13-11-2019 1:38am

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

A lot of lims don't carry the weight when they are finished compared to charolais.

We get paid for the overall carcass weight which I thought was unfair as it doesn't account for the meat the bone ratio and that was the main reason that I quit keeping/breeding pbr BA/BAx sucklers in 2007.

TooOldBoots · 13-11-2019 7:36am

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Older generation have a grá for the whiteheads. Easily kept and grand quiet cattle.

Yep Larry loves them. Plenty cheap meat for him from these and zero profit for the farmer

Limestone Cowboy · 13-11-2019 11:53am

Sugarbowl wrote: »

How do you wean them off the cow so young? I find those at that age, the mother still has milk...

Don't give them much to eat for a few days and off to the winterage then. They don't be long drying up. Never really have any problems with mastitis or anything.

Limestone Cowboy · 13-11-2019 11:58am

Base price wrote: »

We get paid for the overall carcass weight which I thought was unfair as it doesn't account for the meat the bone ratio and that was the main reason that I quit keeping/breeding pbr BA/BAx sucklers in 2007.

I'd have thought the biggest problem with the blondes was trying to get a fat score on them. I know a neighbour here feeds 20 bullocks every year, hand picked show stock basically and he said he was never disappointed with a blonde when he slaughtered them. Most of his bullocks would be killing around 500kg under 30 months.

Dozer1 · 14-11-2019 9:35am

Sorry Patsy, you looked for this last week but couldn't find the catelogue, those LM's were SLIEVEANARD herd

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