Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread VI: End of the MOC [Revenge of the STH]

RuggieBear · 31-03-2015 5:56pm #1

Go Leinster! Go!

molloyjh · 31-03-2015 5:57pm

I have a bad feeling about this.

Fireball07 · 31-03-2015 6:14pm

That's no MOC!

Big Nelly · 31-03-2015 6:52pm

Can we move all the posts about Leinster sacking MOC to this thread please? They are great to read :-)

Buer · 31-03-2015 8:13pm

Rumour of retirement announcement soon on LF.

Goodnight sweet prince.

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vienne86 · 31-03-2015 9:22pm

Buer wrote: »

Rumour of retirement announcement soon on LF.

Goodnight sweet prince.

Great servant of Leinster and Ireland. No great surprise I suppose, but he would be missed.

Teferi · 31-03-2015 9:49pm

Strange, thought he would do another year at least. He could definitely be a great squad player for us next year with the WC.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 31-03-2015 9:52pm

It looks like Madigan us nailing his colours to the 12 shirt.

“It is without doubt my most enjoyable season so far and, with Johnny coming back next year, I’d ideally like to play at 12 alongside him.”

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/european-cup/sexton-helped-madigan-through-two-hours-of-hell-at-murrayfield-1.2159145

Teferi wrote: »

Strange, thought he would do another year at least. He could definitely be a great squad player for us next year with the WC.

I always had an idea that he would go if not involved internationally.

31-03-2015 9:55pm

Feel bad for Darcy, think he picked up a few knocks this season and not sure he ever got to full fitness and sadly the season seems to have gotten away from him.

Incredibly important player for Leinster and Ireland and hope he gets a big send off.

Also unlucky that we've needed to play a 10 at 12 because our preferred 10 has a poor kicking percentage.

Teferi · 31-03-2015 10:27pm

Excellent thread name by the way!

irishbucsfan · 31-03-2015 10:28pm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

It looks like Madigan us nailing his colours to the 12 shirt.

“It is without doubt my most enjoyable season so far and, with Johnny coming back next year, I’d ideally like to play at 12 alongside him.”

That's great. He needs to make a decision one way or another, because he's not going to be playing 10 for Leinster any time soon.

Also interesting he says it's without a doubt his most enjoyable season so far...

CIARAN_BOYLE · 31-03-2015 10:45pm

Agreed but it has me thinking how kuch game time at all 10 does Madigan need to stay in the frame for the Irish 22 shirt.

Kidney used to request that Wallace get 3-5 pro 12 games a season at all 10 for Ulster.

errlloyd · 31-03-2015 10:53pm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Agreed but it has me thinking how kuch game time at all 10 does Madigan need to stay in the frame for the Irish 22 shirt.

Kidney used to request that Wallace get 3-5 pro 12 games a season at all 10 for Ulster.

Which ironically ruined his career, because he probably was a centre.

total former · 31-03-2015 10:56pm

It's a shame for D'Arcy that after so long at the top, it looks like he'll be going out on a relatively low note (if he is indeed retiring). Various things have conspired against him this season but to be finishing on the Leinster bench and probably not going to the RWC is a real blow for him.

Still, nothing can take away his phenomenal achievements in the game. Here's just one, but it's my favourite, after there were real fears for his career in 08-09:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMifNVkJk5w

molloyjh · 31-03-2015 11:05pm

total former wrote: »

It's a shame for D'Arcy that after so long at the top, it looks like he'll be going out on a relatively low note (if he is indeed retiring). Various things have conspired against him this season but to be finishing on the Leinster bench and probably not going to the RWC is a real blow for him.

Still, nothing can take away his phenomenal achievements in the game. Here's just one, but it's my favourite, after there were real fears for his career in 08-09:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMifNVkJk5w

Yeah that try had me beaming. After the injury he'd picked up I was delighted for him getting it and you could see how much it meant to him at the time.

.ak · 31-03-2015 11:15pm

You can see the rest of the lads knew what it meant to him also. Brilliant moment and a lovely read of the defence, watching the defenders hips the whole time, then that leg drive, it's the little things like that extra second of fight that make the difference.

irishbucsfan · 31-03-2015 11:15pm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Agreed but it has me thinking how kuch game time at all 10 does Madigan need to stay in the frame for the Irish 22 shirt.

Kidney used to request that Wallace get 3-5 pro 12 games a season at all 10 for Ulster.

Well he will get game time as a 10 because he'll be needed there but in the long term I'd imagine that Ireland and Leinster will look elsewhere for that position, and everyone will benefit from that.

01-04-2015 12:11am

6 > 4

The 6th Leinster thread, Munster are still on 4

Leinster > Munster

Its simple maths really

irishbucsfan · 01-04-2015 12:17am

Deleted User wrote: »

6 > 4

The 6th Leinster thread, Munster are still on 4

Leinster > Munster

Its simple maths really

Ah that's not fair, we're clearly superior in every regard but they try really hard to keep up, let's not discourage them.

DGRulz · 01-04-2015 7:35am

Has anyone else not received their tickets for Saturday? Bought them the weekend they went in public sale but haven't heard anything.

01-04-2015 8:12am

Deleted User wrote: »

6 > 4

The 6th Leinster thread, Munster are still on 4

Leinster > Munster

Its simple maths really

AND
5 > 3

We're in 5th in the League and they're in 3rd.
Another win for the Leinster lads!

01-04-2015 8:12am

DGRulz wrote: »

Has anyone else not received their tickets for Saturday? Bought them the weekend they went in public sale but haven't heard anything.

I have mine a week or so (delivered to UK), Dad got his last Thursday too (IRE). Might be best to contact Ticketmaster.

Buer · 01-04-2015 9:11am

.ak wrote: »

You can see the rest of the lads knew what it meant to him also. Brilliant moment and a lovely read of the defence, watching the defenders hips the whole time, then that leg drive, it's the little things like that extra second of fight that make the difference.

That leg drive was always incredible. Around 2007 or 2008 when we were playing poorly and there was a lot of criticism (history has revised it but there was serious discontent with the performances), D'Arcy was the only guy coming out week in, week out and putting his hand up. So many games where we were asleep and then he'd step someone and pump the legs, getting us 20m down the field.

I recall the 2009 semi final when the game was still in the balance, early in the second half. He made a run and gained yards that he had absolutely no right to, bringing us about 15m up the field, well into their half. It took 3 defenders to take him down. He was unbelievably pumped up that day.

http://inpho.ie/media/qxETTU-vHSjDw5-oUFlQCw..a?ts=V8-j3B4B4erlKsUuR_cTLv_xyKB4eRmJ5vLibpiDT_o.a

Synode · 01-04-2015 9:43am

DGRulz wrote: »

Has anyone else not received their tickets for Saturday? Bought them the weekend they went in public sale but haven't heard anything.

Mine only came last week. I'd ring them if I was you

Uriel. · 01-04-2015 9:54am

Yeah got mine last week too... Would definitely ring them...probably will need to do a reprint and collect at stadium... If they don't come before Friday

.ak · 01-04-2015 12:06pm

Yep have mine over a week now.

El_Duderino 09 · 01-04-2015 1:31pm

Hey Leinster forum

Iwas wondering about next year when Sexton arrives back. If he plays 10 where will madigan play? I presumed he'll play 12 but who would provide bench cover for out half?

I realised that's exactly where we are now. So who would stand in at out half if gopperth and madigan got injured during a game?

.ak · 01-04-2015 1:35pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Hey Leinster forum

Iwas wondering about next year when Sexton arrives back. If he plays 10 where will madigan play? I presumed he'll play 12 but who would provide bench cover for out half?

I realised that's exactly where we are now. So who would stand in at out half if gopperth and madigan got injured during a game?

Marsh is our 3rd choice OH currently, but the management don't seem to trust him. In fairness he is very slight for an elite level outhalf.

The hope is Byrne will develop a bit quicker. He's absolutely massive for his age and position, and is very comfortable in distribution.

total former · 01-04-2015 1:41pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Hey Leinster forum

Iwas wondering about next year when Sexton arrives back. If he plays 10 where will madigan play? I presumed he'll play 12 but who would provide bench cover for out half?

I realised that's exactly where we are now. So who would stand in at out half if gopperth and madigan got injured during a game?

If this happens on Saturday, probably Rob Kearney, let him stand ten yards back and kick the leather off the ball for whatever time remains. If Noel Reid happened to be in the 23, it would be him, but the big question is next season when both Sexton and Madigan might be on international duty. As .ak says, it's Marsh and Byrne most likely to come through.

The Lost Sheep · 01-04-2015 1:42pm

.ak wrote: »

Marsh is our 3rd choice OH currently, but the management don't seem to trust him. In fairness he is very slight for an elite level outhalf.

The hope is Byrne will develop a bit quicker. He's absolutely massive for his age and position, and is very comfortable in distribution.

Marsh has always been small/slight. Was the same when playing age grade in Bective/Michaels...
Byrne may develop quicker. You may expect him to when you compare each players age grade record.

.ak · 01-04-2015 1:48pm

total former wrote: »

If this happens on Saturday, probably Rob Kearney, let him stand ten yards back and kick the leather off the ball for whatever time remains. If Noel Reid happened to be in the 23, it would be him, but the big question is next season when both Sexton and Madigan might be on international duty. As .ak says, it's Marsh and Byrne most likely to come through.

Actually I reckon Darce would be next in line in the 23. He was stepping in as first receiver last week a lot too.

total former · 01-04-2015 1:53pm

.ak wrote: »

Actually I reckon Darce would be next in line in the 23. He was stepping in as first receiver last week a lot too.

Yeah maybe. To be honest, both Gopperth and Madigan getting injured is not something I want to contemplate too much.

Heroditas · 01-04-2015 1:57pm

Sorry, but going back to the last thread with the greatest players from the pro era, and saw a post from Buer:

Hard to leave out guys like Dempsey, Gleeson, Hickie, Matt Leek, Costello and Corrigan but there you go.

Matt Leek? Seriously? Ahead of Christian Warner or Nathan Spooner?
A very average player.

Clearlier · 01-04-2015 2:02pm

Heroditas wrote: »

Sorry, but going back to the last thread with the greatest players from the pro era, and saw a post from Buer:

Matt Leek? Seriously? Ahead of Christian Warner or Nathan Spooner?
A very average player.

:eek: Can't believe he's ahead of Eddie Hekenui myself.

Buer · 01-04-2015 2:03pm

Heroditas wrote: »

Sorry, but going back to the last thread with the greatest players from the pro era, and saw a post from Buer:

Matt Leek? Seriously? Ahead of Christian Warner or Nathan Spooner?
A very average player.

IT'S ABOUT F*CKING TIME!

I think it hurt me that everyone sort of just accepted I'd list him there....

irishbucsfan · 01-04-2015 2:17pm

Buer wrote: »

IT'S ABOUT F*CKING TIME!

I think it hurt me that everyone sort of just accepted I'd list him there....

I just thought it was one of those weird Buer things, best not to bring those sorts of things up

Buer · 01-04-2015 2:19pm

I do have form.

Matt Leek is the thinking man's Eddie Hekenui.

.ak · 01-04-2015 2:22pm

So, you're admittedly trolling..?

Buer · 01-04-2015 2:29pm

.ak wrote: »

So, you're admittedly trolling..?

Trolling is such a vulgar term.

I prefer to say forum manipulation.

Please don't ban me.

Larbre34 · 01-04-2015 2:34pm

Go on so, worst Leinster XVs to keep us entertained till team announcement.....

01-04-2015 2:34pm

.ak wrote: »

So, you're admittedly trolling..?

Not to back seat moderate or anything but I think you know what you need to do.

Principal Skinner · 01-04-2015 2:35pm

The back 3 should be

15: Nacewa
14: Horgan
11: Hickie

That is some attacking back 3, I would give my right arm to see them playing now

.ak · 01-04-2015 2:37pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Not to back seat moderate or anything but I think you know what you need to do.

That's very accurate, I actually blow a whistle whenever I infract people.

.ak · 01-04-2015 2:38pm

Principal Skinner wrote: »

The back 3 should be

15: Nacewa
14: Horgan
11: Hickie

That is some attacking back 3, I would give my right arm to see them playing now

For me it's Fitzgerald, Hickie and Nacewa.

Fitzgerald on his pomp is the best back we've ever produced outside of BOD imo. I think because of his youth and injury record he probably gets left out of these sort of teams tho.

Larbre34 · 01-04-2015 2:39pm

^ Red card man looks a lot like Leighton Hodges before the beard.

RuggieBear · 01-04-2015 2:43pm

.ak wrote: »

So, you're admittedly trolling..?

Interesting.

Erm..I mean

Interesting

padser · 01-04-2015 2:51pm

Heroditas wrote: »

Sorry, but going back to the last thread with the greatest players from the pro era, and saw a post from Buer:

Matt Leek? Seriously? Ahead of Christian Warner or Nathan Spooner?
A very average player.

If we are going back that far.

I can't believe everyone (or almost everyone) included Cullen and left out Hines.

If we were going on overall services to the province them maybe, but seriously Hines was a much better player.

MOK and Hines in the second row for me.

Buer · 01-04-2015 2:55pm

Worst team could be fun....will be incredibly harsh on one or two people though.

David McAllister, Brendan Burke, Johnny Hepworth, Matt Leek, John McWeeney (because of that game against Biarritz), Eddie Hekenui, Chris Keane, Aidan Kearney, Owen Finnegan, Des Dillon (for being a huge waste of talent) Ed O'Donoghue, Steven Sykes, Fosi Pala'amo, Harry Vermass, Juan Gomez

Clearlier · 01-04-2015 3:01pm

Buer wrote: »

Worst team could be fun....will be incredibly harsh on one or two people though.

David McAllister, Brendan Burke, Johnny Hepworth, Matt Leek, John McWeeney (because of that game against Biarritz), Eddie Hekenui, Chris Keane, Aidan Kearney, Owen Finnegan, Des Dillon (for being a huge waste of talent) Ed O'Donoghue, Steven Sykes, Fosi Pala'amo, Harry Vermass, Juan Gomez

One of the difficulties working out a worst team is that very often the worst players barely had a look in. Anyone remember Tony Goldfinch?

molloyjh · 01-04-2015 3:01pm

padser wrote: »

If we are going back that far.

I can't believe everyone (or almost everyone) included Cullen and left out Hines.

If we were going on overall services to the province them maybe, but seriously Hines was a much better player.

MOK and Hines in the second row for me.

Good Lord you're right. I totally forgot about Hines. :eek:

Excuse me while I flog myself for my sins.

total former · 01-04-2015 3:02pm

padser wrote: »

If we are going back that far.

I can't believe everyone (or almost everyone) included Cullen and left out Hines.

If we were going on overall services to the province them maybe, but seriously Hines was a much better player.

MOK and Hines in the second row for me.

I don't know if Hines was a better player and he certainly wasn't a "much" better player, but Leinster wouldn't have been a shadow of what they were without Cullen. Thorn was a better player than either of them but that's not really what we're discussing. Leo for me every day of the week.

Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread VI: End of the MOC [Revenge of the STH]

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