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Connacht Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Part II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    He wanted him on the bench ahead of Leader. In fairness Pooleman is a better player than Leader and one would imagine he'd have more impact from the bench than Leader but can see the logic in Pat's "if it ain't broke" approach. Although to contradict that he did say he was going to start Heenan ahead of Masterson but Heenan's hamstring was at him

    I think Leader is going to be thee 15 next season, when Henshaw moves to 13 and Lam is making sure to give some time every week to give him experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    I think Leader is going to be thee 15 next season, when Henshaw moves to 13 and Lam is making sure to give some time every week to give him experience.


    I think we have to wait and see what pat decides. my only hope is that if his choice doesn't happen to work out that he doesn't spend half the season trying to make it work before changing it as has been evident from selections this season


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    He wanted him on the bench ahead of Leader. In fairness Pooleman is a better player than Leader and one would imagine he'd have more impact from the bench than Leader but can see the logic in Pat's "if it ain't broke" approach. Although to contradict that he did say he was going to start Heenan ahead of Masterson but Heenan's hamstring was at him

    That's a squad selection, not a team selection in my eyes. Team is first XV and squad is first XV plus subs. But it's not something worth as long a rant as it got for the selection of a utility back on the bench.

    Think you meant Faloon but the cases of Masterson and Leader are separate IMO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    its_phil wrote: »
    That's a squad selection, not a team selection in my eyes. Team is first XV and squad is first XV plus subs. But it's not something worth as long a rant as it got for the selection of a utility back on the bench.

    Think you meant Faloon but the cases of Masterson and Leader are separate IMO

    sorry, must clarify my understanding. team to me means 1 to 23. squad means available players to choose from for the final 23. as robbo said and also my belief, poolman adds more to the team (squad) from the bench than darragh does


  • Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Stan27


    When is ronaldson back?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    being looking forward to the ulster game all week. go Connacht. let's do it in ravenhill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭freyners


    Tonight was a rough scoreline but there was a couple of positives from it. McSharry is slowly but surely hitting best form again and we got a glimspe of what a McSharry Henshaw partnership will do, lovely work form both for our first try.

    Similarly Henshaw was immense, best player for us by a mile. His passing, strength in contact and and offloading are exceptional at his age.

    I like how lam is trying to make the side play but it was not the right type of strategy for away in ravenhill. Most of ulsters scores were from our mistakes and playing such an expansive game aggravated it. However the phase work and patience shown is not something I've seen in Connacht teams for a long time and I think with the addition of a defensive coach (must be Lams first recruit before any players) should aid this. Marmion had a quiet one by his standards but kept the backs moving nicely.

    Disappointed Buckley and Ah You couldnt get an edge at scrumtime but ulster were far heavier behind the row so its understandable.

    As I said, a bad defeat scoreline wise but we have had much closer games and played a lot worse. We're getting there and I believe 100% with time and some recruitment over the summer, Lam can get us into the top 6


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    it was a good game of rugby and ulster proved how good they really are. very impressed with henshaw. leader did well when he came on. eoin wasn't very visible, Dave did OK but the reality was our defence were simply torn apart. you can blame a sloppy kick from Dan, you can blame many things, but the reality is we were outclassed by a better team. so how do we regroup. it was hard to see how easily ulster simply cut through our defence. I pose the question, as I did against scarlets, do we really have the speed in the front row and the quickness of thought to cover fast developments in the back row. it was annoying to see toh simply outnumbered by players coming at him on a regular basis considering it was the exact same scenario against scarlets. the only conclusion is that the two centres are simply not doing their job (mcsharry try or no mcsharry try)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    Henshaw was yet again immense tonight, we'd be lost without him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,383 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Bazzo wrote: »
    Henshaw was yet again immense tonight, we'd be lost without him.

    He was very good. I just fear the IRFU want to get him out of Connacht as soon as they can. And if Connacht ship beatings like that then how can they complain?

    Bitterly disappointed with tonight. I thought our days of getting destroyed like that were behind us. Especially against an understrength Ulster side.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 365 ✭✭Stanza2


    Hard to find any positives from that. Every time we string some good results together, this happens. Hard, hard hard team to follow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭S12b




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    S12b wrote: »

    I don't think he's played International rugby for anyone so I wonder if that came into his mind?

    He doesn't seem to be getting that many games for them this season.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    S12b wrote: »

    Just had a look, he played at 12 for the Chiefs today, dont know anything else about him

    SWIWI ALERT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭porterbelly


    6 tries in 14 appearances this season

    Great signing


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    6 tries in 14 appearances this season

    Great signing

    The Chiefs have only played 7 games this season though?

    Do you mean last season?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    I don't think he's played International rugby for anyone so I wonder if that came into his mind?

    He doesn't seem to be getting that many games for them this season.

    Three year contract so probably, first game back after injury today.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    He will be joining after Counties Manukau finish up in the ITM. They've been doing pretty well recently (made the SF's in 2013) so it could be November before he moves over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭porterbelly


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    The Chiefs have only played 7 games this season though?

    Do you mean last season?

    Yeah my bad, meant over his Chiefs career


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭porterbelly


    9. Marmion

    10. Carty

    11.Healy

    12. Aki

    13. Henshaw

    14. Poolman

    15. Leader/TOH


    That backline should have a bit about it. Both wingers Healy and Poolman are way better defensively than Carr and TOH and probably better going forward too. Definitely smarter players, Healy is a fine prospect. Poolman will score tries as he has showed and runs very good lines, very balanced runner. Big power in the centre.

    15 is a worry but maybe Leader can show a bit more, not convinced by him though. Carty should be given a run in the 10 jersey, he's a running 10 who can bring the best out of those lads. He is no JJ/Jackson/Madigan but should be given his chance consistently and see how he goes.

    Now for a couple of signings in the pack. Bit worries about JHW, he's way too slow around the park. Dave Heffernan can maybe take up the mantle, he's big powerful and dynamic as a former flanker. We will pray we can get Clarke back. Heenan to return to 7, Faloon there as well and hopefully a signing in the back row like Dave O Callaghan/Jack Conan who can carry ball.

    And as I said, lock Muldoon and Swifty in cold storage til the ground gets soft and roll them out for the bit of mullocking off the bench in the winter


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Yeah my bad, meant over his Chiefs career

    Still impressive though.

    My only worry is that it's over a short time frame so will he reproduce it when he comes North.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭porterbelly


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Still impressive though.

    My only worry is that it's over a short time frame so will he reproduce it when he comes North.

    Well he's young and that is a quality Chiefs team tbf

    He's got all the attributes, pace, power and a step with offloading skills

    Him and Henshaw paired could be tasty

    Pity he doesn't arrive til end of ITM Cup


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Wow what a signing. Hats off to Pat and Tim here. I'd heard a name for a center but this wasn't it and I don't think he was as high a quality either.

    Now if we get a 10, a hooker, one more center just for cover that doesnt break the bank and either a second row or back row (depending on if George moves to second row where we can use his bulk) to add we will be doing very well.

    Conan would be a great signing but did I hear someone mention on another thread he might re-sign with Leinster. The potential competition between McKeon and Conan would bring the two of them on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭porterbelly


    its_phil wrote: »
    Wow what a signing. Hats off to Pat and Tim here. I'd heard a name for a center but this wasn't it and I don't think he was as high a quality either.

    Now if we get a 10, a hooker, one more center just for cover that doesnt break the bank and either a second row or back row (depending on if George moves to second row where we can use his bulk) to add we will be doing very well.

    Conan would be a great signing but did I hear someone mention on another thread he might re-sign with Leinster. The potential competition between McKeon and Conan would bring the two of them on.


    Have we a 10 signed or are we after one do you know?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Have we a 10 signed or are we after one do you know?

    After one, I haven't heard anything in a couple months. But that's from lack of discussion on my part more than anything else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭S12b


    I'd argue the only two signings we must make are a defence coach and a scrum half.

    Against both Scarlets and Ulster we have looked good going forward but have been very weak defensively.

    Someone mentioned we are signing one of the Ulster back up scrum halfs....surely he can't be any better than what he already have as back up. A decent scrum half is a must as if we get our wish, Marmion will could well be unavailable for chunks of next season.

    Outside of that, I'd love a big ball carrying 8 like Conan, I feel we lack a solid source of go forward. And finally, if we somehow win the lotto, a loosehead, hooker and 10 who can both run the ball and kick at 75%+.....I'm not asking for much I know!! :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    Tox56 wrote: »
    Just had a look, he played at 12 for the Chiefs today, dont know anything else about him

    SWIWI ALERT

    HERE I AM! As I said in the SXV thread that is a truly excellent signing for Connacht, damn I wouldn't have minded if he'd chosen Leinster. OK, SBW & Nonu will have the 12 shirt for 2015, but I honestly would have rated him an AB chance from 2016 onwards.

    Well done Connacht, I wouldn't be surprised to see NZRFU contract killers hunting down Lam, what with Heenan and now Aki.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭freyners


    Great signing but after the Ulster game the signing im looking for is a defence coach


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Swiwi. wrote: »

    Well done Connacht, I wouldn't be surprised to see NZRFU contract killers hunting down Lam, what with Heenan and now Aki.

    Good luck to those contract killers with Michael Swift still about the place. He isn't called the Choke Tackle King down here because of his ability on the rugby pitch.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    its_phil wrote: »
    Good luck to those contract killers with Michael Swift still about the place. He isn't called the Choke Tackle King down here because of his ability on the rugby pitch.

    Lam was a fine tackler himself in his time. Played in the great Auckland sides of the 90s. Not so sure about his coaching ability yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    Swiwi. wrote: »
    Lam was a fine tackler himself in his time. Played in the great Auckland sides of the 90s. Not so sure about his coaching ability yet.
    Lam was a fantastic player and Connacht have played better rugby than they ever did under the previous coaches. The team just need better depth and a 10 who isn't Parks. There are some cracking players there and some, who are past it like Swift, need to retire and allow the new guys to get on with it. It's a shame Griffin is leaving but a backline with Henshaw, Marmion, TOH, Healy, Poolman, Leader, Nikora, Carty etc as options is a good one. Up front, they can fear no side next season when Clarke, Heenan etc are fit and firing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭porterbelly


    Swift has been playing more out if necessity with Clarke being out and Muldowney not producing.

    On an aside, anyone know anything about a kit sponsor/manuafacturer. Are we still going to be BLK? Talk that there will be somebody else, would be given credence with the big sales in the shops of their merchandise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭freyners


    jacothelad wrote: »
    Lam was a fantastic player and Connacht have played better rugby than they ever did under the previous coaches. The team just need better depth and a 10 who isn't Parks. There are some cracking players there and some, who are past it like Swift, need to retire and allow the new guys to get on with it. It's a shame Griffin is leaving but a backline with Henshaw, Marmion, TOH, Healy, Poolman, Leader, Nikora, Carty etc as options is a good one. Up front, they can fear no side next season when Clarke, Heenan etc are fit and firing.

    TBf to Parks he can take a lot of pride in how he played for us, especially in his first season. Memory I will always have is him calming down Henshaw and Marmion when we demolished Leinster last year. Both were showing a lot of nerves and he was the one to calm them down. Better options than him now but he was a great OH to have when they were making there way initially


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭Hagz


    Wow. Aki and Henshaw is a tasty centre combination.

    Connacht need a better 10 though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    On an aside, anyone know anything about a kit sponsor/manuafacturer. Are we still going to be BLK? Talk that there will be somebody else, would be given credence with the big sales in the shops of their merchandise

    It's still BLK, launch is for August with release in September. New sponsor the reason for sale, but I'm sure enough there is a new kit too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭Hagz


    I'm sure most of you have gone and done your own research, but I'll put this up anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    S12b wrote: »
    I'd argue the only two signings we must make are a defence coach and a scrum half.

    Against both Scarlets and Ulster we have looked good going forward but have been very weak defensively.

    Someone mentioned we are signing one of the Ulster back up scrum halfs....surely he can't be any better than what he already have as back up. A decent scrum half is a must as if we get our wish, Marmion will could well be unavailable for chunks of next season.

    Outside of that, I'd love a big ball carrying 8 like Conan, I feel we lack a solid source of go forward. And finally, if we somehow win the lotto, a loosehead, hooker and 10 who can both run the ball and kick at 75%+.....I'm not asking for much I know!! :D:D

    We have signed Porter from Ulster so that is scrum-half sorted.

    Main area of concern is outhalf. We have Nikora, Ronaldson and Carthy on the books for next season - all can get backline moving but all have questions over their place kicking (oh to have Keatley back with this backline)

    Im big fan of JHW but he is rather small- another hooker be a bonus

    Can Aki play 13? Just an inform McSharry be too good to leave out..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    wprathead wrote: »
    We have signed Porter from Ulster so that is scrum-half sorted.

    Main area of concern is outhalf. We have Nikora, Ronaldson and Carthy on the books for next season - all can get backline moving but all have questions over their place kicking (oh to have Keatley back with this backline)

    Im big fan of JHW but he is rather small- another hooker be a bonus

    Can Aki play 13? Just an inform McSharry be too good to leave out..

    He strikes me as almost a specialist 12. He probably could play 13, the same way that Nonu & SBW can sort of play 13, but really I think he's a 12. Besides, you have Henshaw!

    NB: Great signing for you guys, if you read back thru the AB thread, you'll see I name-checked him several times as a possible AB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Swiwi. wrote: »
    He strikes me as almost a specialist 12. He probably could play 13, the same way that Nonu & SBW can sort of play 13, but really I think he's a 12. Besides, you have Henshaw!

    NB: Great signing for you guys, if you read back thru the AB thread, you'll see I name-checked him several times as a possible AB.

    But who will play 13 when henshaw is with Ireland.

    McSharry/Aki could be a better pairing than any other options


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Any news on Craig Clarke?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    But who will play 13 when henshaw is with Ireland.

    McSharry/Aki could be a better pairing than any other options

    strangely ronaldson has played all his best rugby at 12 and not 10. I've said this before but I think its really important to spend the last games of the season shaping the back line for next year. tend to agree with porterbelly on much of his selection. carty has had a fine season for buccs and needs the game time to build his confidence at 10 facing into a new season. I really think this guy can be as good as keatley. his biggest weakness is the range of his place kicks (same problem that nikora has but carty is a far more exciting out half in all other things).

    tiernan played extremely well at full back for Ireland u-20s and I think his defensive play has come on in leaps and bounds. I would like to see him given as shot at this. I think lam has knocked his confidence badly by leaving him at 24 for most of the season. with a bit of confidence restored in him I think he could be as good a full back as any in the country.

    it struck me after the ulster game that Connacht without henshaw would be a much weaker proposition. Robbie has progressed game on game this season to vindicate the hype in his possible inclusion in the national team.

    what disappointed me most about last night was marmions performance. it wasn't terrible but he wasn't as usually brilliant as he has been of recent times. I felt sorry for him, with Joe Schmidt in attendance, that he didn't show what he has shown for so many consecutive games. I think he has really excelled to the point that he is now definite international standard. such a pity he didn't show Joe last night, but my guess is that Joe could not possibly have missed kiernans progression this season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,383 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    The scoop on Aki according to a Chiefs/kiwi fan on Planet Rugby. Chiefs fans seem genuinely gutted he's leaving which is tough on them but it's usually a good sign for the team that gets him.
    He's just returned from reconstructive surgery on his shoulder. Very good player, solid on defence, very quick for a midfielder, a decent jackling centre in the Umaga-mould and appears to have the semblance of a kicking game.

    Probably would have made the All Blacks given his current trajectory.

    All that said. Connacht need a defence coach badly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭BeardySi


    Hagz wrote: »
    I'm sure most of you have gone and done your own research, but I'll put this up anyway.
    ...

    Bloody hell that lad's got pace!! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Muliaina being chased by Connacht according to the Indo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    its_phil wrote: »
    Muliaina being chased by Connacht according to the Indo.

    You can have him. He has lost all his pace. Covers a few positions though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭freyners


    its_phil wrote: »
    Muliaina being chased by Connacht according to the Indo.

    Pie in the sky signing I reckon,would be a great signing but unless our finances got a lot better I cant see us having the financial muscle to do so


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    freyners wrote: »
    Pie in the sky signing I reckon,would be a great signing but unless our finances got a lot better I cant see us having the financial muscle to do so

    €350k budget increase


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    its_phil wrote: »
    €350k budget increase

    Is that accurate? And if so, what percentage of an increased European competition payout to the IRFU does it represent? I wonder what the other provinces' budgets are increasing by...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Zzippy wrote: »
    Is that accurate? And if so, what percentage of an increased European competition payout to the IRFU does it represent? I wonder what the other provinces' budgets are increasing by...

    It's in the Independent today. Eric Elwood being lined up by Munster as an assistant coach too, which would be great.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Is lined up or in the running?

    I thought he was just in the running.


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